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Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by charliejose: 9:26pm On Jul 12, 2019
Kennydoc:


Bro, let's be realistic here. Some newly infected HIV people go on revenge transmission of the virus. They are counselled against it, but how many heed the counsel? Even simple adherence to the medications is a difficult thing for some. Yes, they can contract more virulent or even drug resistant strains of the virus if they don't protect themselves, but does it really sink? Isn't that part of the reasons why some people still die of AIDS within a few years of diagnosis of HIV, despite the availability of HAART everywhere?
It's not HAART that weakens the immune system, HIV does. What happens is that some people's immune system (CD4 cells) fail to recover even years after commencement of HAART.
As for the 'doc' in my moniker, your opinion doesn't matter. You're free to think whatever you like, as I don't care.
Deciding to infect people or not is dependent on the patient - that we can't control. However, it doesn't give anyone the right to stigmatize the many other innocent patients that go for treatment because they really care about their lives - of which is the basis of our argument to start with. You should focus your energy more on the people that don't even know their statuses but unknowningly spread the disease and those not on treatments but knowingly spread the disease - they are the main reason for the increase in infections.

I never said the HAART compromises the immune system. What I said was that the patient's immunity is usually compromised before or just after starting their treatments, and gets better as they continue taking their drugs.

Your comments are evident enough that you are not a doctor. So, it's not my opinion, it's a fact.

Do have a good evening as I won't comment on this again.

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Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by madgoat(m): 9:29pm On Jul 12, 2019
HIV is a scam and a thing of the mind. I dey straff steadily skin to skin and nothing dey happen. grin
Na only people wey dey fear dey catch AIDS.

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Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by KENFERDYOORI(m): 9:31pm On Jul 12, 2019
It's an egregious breach of professionalism.
Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by imitateMe(m): 9:35pm On Jul 12, 2019
charliejose:
Verbose, yet reeks of ignorance. HIV positive patients that are steadily
on Anti-retroviral therapy can't transmit the virus because of their undectable viral load. The real people spreading the virus are the lots of you that don't know your HIV status, talk more of starting treatment. So, this mistake of a nurse should have channelled her energy to sensitizing people to go for a test not stigmatizing innocent people that go for treatment because they care about their lives and that of others.
Very important point you made.
Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by Promisechi79(m): 9:36pm On Jul 12, 2019
This is not true her account was hacked by some imposter. Op take note

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Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by Nobody: 9:37pm On Jul 12, 2019
charliejose:
Verbose, yet reeks of ignorance. HIV positive patients that are steadily
on Anti-retroviral therapy can't transmit the virus because of their undectable viral load. The real people spreading the virus are the lots of you that don't know your HIV status, talk more of starting treatment. So, this mistake of a nurse should have channelled her energy to sensitizing people to go for a test not stigmatizing innocent people that go for treatment because they care about their lives and that of others.

'Ignorance' is personified in a faceless internet troll like yourself who jumps to conclusions about whether someone on an anonymous forum knows his HIV status or not. . . .
Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by DateMynd44(m): 10:15pm On Jul 12, 2019
SultanOfAbia:
I'm Still Searching for the list of the so called patients....

u follow screen shoot this pics abi? the picture funny me oh
Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by DateMynd44(m): 10:16pm On Jul 12, 2019
Joromi12:
Team raw
go akwa ibom or Port Harcourt go talk am
Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by DateMynd44(m): 10:17pm On Jul 12, 2019
KidsNEXTdoor:
Where are the pictures


You will find out they are all zombies that voted Buhari
stay off politics cos u use ur flat head to reason like a kid
Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by DateMynd44(m): 10:19pm On Jul 12, 2019
davillian:
From what I saw up there she dint expose anyone.
Just an advice ( aids no de show for face) if you no fit hold body use condom.
check the comment above u.
she did
Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by oglalasioux(m): 10:22pm On Jul 12, 2019
She's fvcking the medical director so nobody's gonna get her sacked. Get it into your thick skulls.
Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by Olisa1987: 10:23pm On Jul 12, 2019
MrBONE2:


I wonder ooo
she didn't mention any body's name.
Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by Optionalx: 10:24pm On Jul 12, 2019
Mumu post from mumu professional ...
Stigmatizing your patients is dumb and foolish
If you don’t know that HIV is not transmitted via consensual sex alone... what then do you know as nurse undecided
Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by Kennydoc(m): 10:33pm On Jul 12, 2019
charliejose:
Deciding to infect people or not is dependent on the patient - that we can't control. However, it doesn't give anyone the right to stigmatize the many other innocent patients that go for treatment because they really care about their lives - of which is the basis of our argument to start with. You should focus your energy more on the people that don't even know their statuses but unknowningly spread the disease and those not on treatments but knowingly spread the disease - they are the main reason for the increase in infections.

I never said the HAART compromises the immune system. What I said was that the patient's immunity is usually compromised before or just after starting their treatments, and gets better as they continue taking their drugs.

Your comments are evident enough that you are not a doctor. So, it's not my opinion, it's a fact.

Do have a good evening as I won't comment on this again.

Maybe you're a clinical student or a newly graduated doctor (that's if you have anything to do with medical training at all), and that's why you feel you've arrived. You make me laugh. What do you know about medicine? Do you really want us to discuss clinical medicine here? Nonsense!

I pointed out something to you and you're talking rubbish. You said people on HAART have undetectable viral load, and I asked you if it happens immediately. Wasn't it obvious to you what I was driving at? That somebody has been started on HAART doesn't mean they are safe or that they will practice safe sex. By the way, there are factors that determine if people will achieve undetectable viral load, and drug adherence is one of them.
The slapping senator was said to have infected his wife while receiving treatment, yet his wife didn't know he was positive. There are many men who get diagnosed and refuse to disclose their status to their spouses and concubines. It's a very common thing seen in PEPFAR clinics.

I was never attempting to condone the nurse's post, cos I don't believe in posting things that happen at work on social media. Even though she intended to remind people that they should be very careful in their sexual activities, as many of the PLWH look healthy physically, she didn't need to talk about her patients.

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Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by NnwachukuOkike: 10:41pm On Jul 12, 2019
Nigeria is worst than HIV virus.
Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by Nobody: 11:05pm On Jul 12, 2019
Kennydoc:


Maybe you're a clinical student or a newly graduated doctor (that's if you have anything to do with medical training at all), and that's why you feel you've arrived. You make me laugh. What do you know about medicine? Do you really want us to discuss clinical medicine here? Nonsense!

I pointed out something to you and you're talking rubbish. You said people on HAART have undetectable viral load, and I asked you if it happens immediately. Wasn't it obvious to you what I was driving at? That somebody has been started on HAART doesn't mean they are safe or that they will practice safe sex. By the way, there are factors that determine if people will achieve undetectable viral load, and drug adherence is one of them.
The slapping senator was said to have infected his wife while receiving treatment, yet his wife didn't know he was positive. There are many men who get diagnosed and refuse to disclose their status to their spouses and concubines. It's a very common thing seen in PEPFAR clinics.

I was never attempting to condone the nurse's post, cos I don't believe in posting things that happen at work on social media. Even though she intended to remind people that they should be very careful in their sexual activities, as many of the PLWH look healthy physically, she didn't need to talk about her patients.
be bold, say it loud, you wanna discriminate and act a judge, what do we expect from a Chriastain. Doc my foot

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Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by Idzitari1(m): 11:08pm On Jul 12, 2019
I don't see anything wrong with her post, all I see is a word of advice. She didn't mention names, so what is people problems. Amebos everywhere.
Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by goodlife4every1(m): 11:33pm On Jul 12, 2019
donaldking10:
misleading headline.
This actually shows majority of Nigerians don't actually read...
Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by linearity: 11:39pm On Jul 12, 2019
GidiWoodsMan:
What she did is technically wrong. But in a place like Nigeria where the government is yet to criminalise deliberate transmission of HIV, I think I can agree with the point she's trying to make.

Most people quietly start receiving treatment once they learn of their HIV+ status, but at the same time they struggle to infect as many other people as they can as a form of 'revenge'. Some even neglect to tell their future spouses who eventually contract the virus from them and die in ignorance (the 'slapping senator' Ishaku is a case in point.

How is it technically wrong?

She did not expose anyone nor did she divulge any privacy information or the identity of anyone.

In fact, what she said is public knowledge; we all know before the said it that, HIV is not written across one’s forehead and that, with recent advancement of medicine carriers lives normal healthy lives and can pro-create without passing on the virus.

The only new info I think she exposes that, we don’t know before now is that, in her job as a nurse, she administers HIV drugs to patients and we would even infer that to some degree of accuracy without her saying it, because of her occupation of being a Nurse.

One might have argument that, she tend to have a myopic view of HIV patients and have a condescending view about them or a self-patronizing pity.
Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by Kennydoc(m): 11:41pm On Jul 12, 2019
camobri:

be bold, say it loud, you wanna discriminate and act a judge, what do we expect from a Chriastain. Doc my foot

If this is the summary you could make from my post, good for you.
By the way, don't quote me again till you learn how to spell Christian. Thank you.
Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by 9jaRealist: 2:11am On Jul 13, 2019
GidiWoodsMan:
What she did is technically wrong. But in a place like Nigeria where the government is yet to criminalise deliberate transmission of HIV, I think I can agree with the point she's trying to make.

Most people quietly start receiving treatment once they learn of their HIV+ status, but at the same time they struggle to infect as many other people as they can as a form of 'revenge'. Some even neglect to tell their future spouses who eventually contract the virus from them and die in ignorance (the 'slapping senator' Ishaku is a case in point.

It's not just "technically" wrong...
Just wrong, and probably illegal since she is effectively sharing patients' medical information without permission.
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Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by 9jaRealist: 2:16am On Jul 13, 2019
linearity:


How is it technically wrong?

She did not expose anyone nor did she divulge any privacy information or the identity of anyone.

In fact, what she said is public knowledge; we all know before the said it that, HIV is not written across one’s forehead and that, with recent advancement of medicine carriers lives normal healthy lives and can pro-create without passing on the virus.

The only new info I think she exposes that, we don’t know before now is that, in her job as a nurse, she administers HIV drugs to patients and we would even infer that to some degree of accuracy without her saying it, because of her occupation of being a Nurse.

One might have argument that, she tend to have a myopic view of HIV patients and have a condescending view about them or a self-patronizing pity.

How is it not exposing her patients if she published a picture of them on social media?

Meanwhile, not sure why you think that a nurse administering HIV medication is "new" information. undecided
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Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by laudate: 3:24am On Jul 13, 2019
charliejose:
Verbose, yet reeks of ignorance. HIV positive patients that are steadily
on Anti-retroviral therapy can't transmit the virus because of their undetectable viral load. The real people spreading the virus are the lots of you that don't know your HIV status, talk more of starting treatment. So, this mistake of a nurse should have channelled her energy to sensitizing people to go for a test not stigmatizing innocent people that go for treatment because they care about their lives and that of others.
No sir. You are wrong. shocked The fact that a HIV patient is on ARV medication, does not mean his viral load is undetectable. It takes a while before this happens. In some people it could take several months or even years before this happens, after they start their treatment.

The patient will have to be highly disciplined in following a strict drug regimen, and would have to also show up for regular tests in the hospital, to monitor his CD4 count, etc. sad

So even while taking drugs, the HIV patient can still infect his non-HIV partner, if he does not take adequate precautions.

I have seen HIV patients coming late to the hospital, and they still develop complications like TB and other things, simply because they presented late, or were not compliant with their drug regimen, or those ARV drugs had side effects that caused unforeseen severe reactions in their body. lipsrsealed The doctors then conduct more tests, before changing their drug combination.

Kennydoc:
So once a HIV patient is started on HAART, their viral load will immediately become undetectable?
I wonder, o! shocked Can you imagine what he is saying.. ..

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Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by Agugbadin: 3:38am On Jul 13, 2019
She did not expose anybody, she has only given a very useful advice to the people as a medical practitioner.
Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by laudate: 3:59am On Jul 13, 2019
charliejose:
You have a "doc" to your moniker, but I should believe you added that for fun... That's by the way. People that are actively receiving these treatments are even advised to abstain from unprotected sex so as to avoid re-infection or even contracting resistant strains of the virus - they are also at greater risk of contracting other diseases too as their immune system is compromised usually at the beginning of treatment. So, a greater percentage of those that infect people for revenge or whatever are the ones not on treatment. So, worry more about sensitization of people going for test and leave these people going for their treatments alone.
And you think every HIV+ person that has been given that advice, will comply? Are you going to be following them around 24x7?
Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by Nobody: 4:57am On Jul 13, 2019
martineverest:
she didn't commit any offence

I really pity this generation....they only read headlines and avoid the main content..I saw this news on instablog9ja this morning.about 99 percent of those that commented only read the headlines without reading the content of the lady's post...she was actually advising the public on STDs


That lady did something very foolish and unprofessional. There are better ways of passing her message and sensitising people to be more careful of their reproductive health.

She was stigmatising those unfortunate individuals going to that hospital to receive treatment.

She mentioned the name of the hospital and everybody going to that hospital for treatment will be seen as potential carriers.
She showed traits of arrogance and rudeness.

If such a volatile character was working for you, would you still trust her in that position?

Would you still trust her to keep dispensing antiretroviral pills to patients. Do you think patients will still have the confidence to approach her for drugs?
She has indirectly scared away people who trust her and visit her for their medications.

The implication of her outbursts is that more people will not have the confidence to visit such a place. If she can make the threat boldly like she is doing at the moment, what makes you think that she can’t expose the identities of the people involved?

I see a nasty person that is very judgmental, full of herself, unreliable, an ldiot and very unprofessional.

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Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by boxypane(m): 5:30am On Jul 13, 2019
I just feel she has proof about the patients spreading the virus, hence her outrage and threat. Nothing NAD in her post, no one was listed.
Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by Eaglefine(f): 5:37am On Jul 13, 2019
antagonist:
half gist

she actually posted a picture of the people in the hospital

This is wrong
Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by Nobody: 6:32am On Jul 13, 2019
Asquare84:
WHAT HAS SHE DONE WRONG HERE NOW
Don't mind those people.
I have studied her right up all over again and again.
I'm yet to see where she went wrong.
Are people now MAD, that we have lost our sense of reasoning and judgement...??

Advising NIGERIANS without naming her patients nor being specific is now a Crime.
That's MADNESS...

What has she really done WRONG...?
The only daisy thing there is that she named her place of work, and that's all
Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by Kennydoc(m): 6:56am On Jul 13, 2019
laudate:

No sir. You are wrong. shocked The fact that a HIV patient is on ARV medication, does not mean his viral load is undetectable. It takes a while before this happens. In some people it could take several months or even years before this happens, after they start their treatment.

The patient will have to be highly disciplined in following a strict drug regimen, and would have to also show up for regular tests in the hospital, to monitor his CD4 count, etc. sad

So even while taking drugs, the HIV patient can still infect his non-HIV partner, if he does not take adequate precautions.

I have seen HIV patients coming late to the hospital, and they still develop complications like TB and other things, simply because they presented late, or were not compliant with their drug regimen, or those ARV drugs had side effects that caused unforeseen severe reactions in their body. lipsrsealed The doctors then conduct more tests, before changing their drug combination.


I wonder, o! shocked Can you imagine what he is saying.. ..

Thank you very much for your apt reply to him. It was a simple message I wanted to pass across to him, and he started talking rubbish whether I'm a doctor a not.

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Re: Rivers State Nurse Talks About Her HIV Patients, Nigerians Call For Her Sack by JuanDeDios: 7:37am On Jul 13, 2019
GidiWoodsMan:
What she did is technically wrong. But in a place like Nigeria where the government is yet to criminalise deliberate transmission of HIV, I think I can agree with the point she's trying to make.

Most people quietly start receiving treatment once they learn of their HIV+ status, but at the same time they struggle to infect as many other people as they can as a form of 'revenge'. Some even neglect to tell their future spouses who eventually contract the virus from them and die in ignorance (the 'slapping senator' Ishaku is a case in point.
What she did is idiotic. The problem you highlighted exist, but "unprofessional" doesn't even begin to describe her for thinking this is the way to address it.

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