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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nedville: 12:01pm On Jul 14, 2019
andrew444:


Only lewandowski

Nigeria have more popular players worldwide than poland, Nigeria is a big footballing nation than poland.

Alright, substitute Poland with, England, Spain or Germany

Quality of the player is not what I'm debating, but popularity

Many of us can predict the starting line up of england and Spain before a world cup or euros....maybe even their second teams and bench....guess what...the polish can do so..

A number of popular players in a team always sways bookmakers into deciding who is favourite and who is not

While we know European players and our own players....we don't know players in other countries except the popular ones...bout about probably thinks the same

That is African football generally

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 12:07pm On Jul 14, 2019
andrew444:


Lol no mind am

The best thing is just dey look until the match.

By the end of .today, we will k ow who be Husband and who be concubine (Algeria)

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 12:10pm On Jul 14, 2019
Nedville:


Alright, substitute Poland with, England, Spain or Germany

Quality of the player is not what I'm debating, but popularity

Many of us can predict the starting line up of england and Spain before a world cup or euros....maybe even their second teams and bench....guess what...the polish can do so..

A number of popular players in a team always sways bookmakers into deciding who is favourite and who is not

While we know European players and our own players....we don't know players in other countries except the popular ones...bout about probably thinks the same

That is African football generally


Really?

Now I know you're just joking. If an average Nigerian fan cannot do so, the Polish sure as hell can't.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 12:12pm On Jul 14, 2019
Nedville:


Alright, substitute Poland with, England, Spain or Germany

Quality of the player is not what I'm debating, but popularity

Many of us can predict the starting line up of england and Spain before a world cup or euros....maybe even their second teams and bench....guess what...the polish can do so..

A number of popular players in a team always sways bookmakers into deciding who is favourite and who is not

While we know European players and our own players....we don't know players in other countries except the popular ones...bout about probably thinks the same

That is African football generally


But i didnt talk of england germany or spain nah, this ones na football powerhouse

Who go follow you argue that one self? you self know na
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nedville: 12:17pm On Jul 14, 2019
Nedville:


Alright, substitute Poland with, England, Spain or Germany

Quality of the player is not what I'm debating, but popularity

Many of us can predict the starting line up of england and Spain before a world cup or euros....maybe even their second teams and bench....guess what...the polish can do so..

A number of popular players in a team always sways bookmakers into deciding who is favourite and who is not

While we know European players and our own players....we don't know players in other countries except the popular ones...bout about probably thinks the same

That is African football generally


There is a guy on YouTube, DZ football an English guy of Algerian descent who follows the premier league

He was previewing the match between Algeria and Nigeria....he praised bounedjah belaili bennacer ounas mahrez guediora as well as the whole team to high heavens

When it came to Nigeria, all he said was that he was expecting a tough match. he said he likes chukwueze...then went forward to name Mikel iwobi and ndidi as their key men....

He concluded by saying eagles lost to Madagascar and have not been stellar in this tournament...he mentioned the fact that we didn't qualify for the past two editions...that he was expecting a tough but controlled win...and that eagles wouldn't cause much problems to them

As a Nigerian watching his video, I was surprised he didn't truly know what we are capable of....but he is only going by off hand knowledge of Nigerian players because he doesn't know them of course, since he isn't a nigerian, he is not obliged to know all of them either

I'm saying this to apply this logic to some of us who think Algerians don't have players and that we can walk over them like paper, just because we don't know them or we haven't heard of them. This guy will be surprised as to what Nigerians will do....as will the rest of africa

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Koboko99(m): 12:19pm On Jul 14, 2019
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 12:22pm On Jul 14, 2019
ChrisKels:
By this time, against SA I was already shaking. Cant quite fathom why I am this relaxed today. Could this be a sign of good omen?











Maybe the hype on SA prior that match really got to me grin
wait till it's around 7:30
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 12:23pm On Jul 14, 2019
Rohr already hinted in his press conference that there may be some changes in the starting lineup...

Don't be surprised to see some key players dropped today....
He might decide to go defensive against Algeria
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eleniyan15: 12:25pm On Jul 14, 2019
Came across this on Twitter

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nedville: 12:26pm On Jul 14, 2019
darkelf:


Really?

Now I know you're just joking. If an average Nigerian fan cannot do so, the Polish sure as hell can't.

I mean polish fans who watch football know a lot of players from Spain england and Germany because of their leagues....they may not know all....but I'm sure they know of most....they watch the champions league too

The league itself and the clubs players play for in these 'elyte' leagues (no pun intended).....go a long way in deciding popularity....once a country who has them is facing a country who doesn't.....the latter will be seen as underdogs while the former will be seen as favourites...because they have more popular players

It may make people to likely assume that Eric Bailly or sol bamba is better than cheick komara or kanon, just because the former two play for man u and Cardiff respectively
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nedville: 12:33pm On Jul 14, 2019
Danielnino00:



As an African if I asked u to name 5 players from the Polish national team without consulting the internet, can u do it?
Can u mention 5 players from Denmark, Czech republic or even Serbia?

its not by name but quality.. And judging from club performance, Onyekuru and Osimhen are quality players! They don't have to be known all over the world before we can establish that fact!!

Nope....I can't....but the polish citizen who watches football and you the African, can name at least 5 English or Spanish players....like I said...these are casual fans and will only know the top performers in top leagues

Onyekuru and osimhen are quality players....but I'm only telling you that their clubs and we as Nigerians are the ones who know so.....others, not so much...(boutabout obviously in this category)

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Starboytwo(m): 12:42pm On Jul 14, 2019
Nedville:


Nope....I can't....but the polish citizen who watches football and you the African, can name at least 5 English or Spanish players....like I said...these are casual fans and will only know the top performers in top leagues

Onyekuru and osimhen are quality players....but I'm only telling you that their clubs and we as Nigerians are the ones who know so.....others, not so much...(boutabout obviously in this category)
you are not wrong in anyway... After lewandoski and maybe pischek or whatever of Dortmund I don't care much for the Polish national team, I'm only pasionate about SE.....

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nedville: 12:49pm On Jul 14, 2019
andrew444:


But i didnt talk of england germany or spain nah, this ones na football powerhouse

Who go follow you argue that one self? you self know na

Lol...you get the point...their leagues are popular and people from all over the world play in them. Assuming all our nigerian players were regular starters in these clubs in top popular leagues, boutabout will be going to toilet every 60 secs

But he has looked at our team and he is saying there aren't much big name players and so he is confident Algeria will defeat them....he doesn't realise his own players aren't well known like that...but because say na afcon we dey...person gast raise shoulder

That's how most people...sometimes even you and I....use as a yardstick in determining whether a team will come out victorious over another
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 12:52pm On Jul 14, 2019
Gentlewarrior1:
The closest big names are iwobi and ndidi
And both aren't actually big name players
what of chukz and ighalo
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 12:53pm On Jul 14, 2019
Nedville:


I mean polish fans who watch football know a lot of players from Spain england and Germany because of their leagues....they may not know all....but I'm sure they know of most....they watch the champions league too

The league itself and the clubs players play for in these 'elyte' leagues (no pun intended).....go a long way in deciding popularity....once a country who has them is facing a country who doesn't.....the latter will be seen as underdogs while the former will be seen as favourites...because they have more popular players

It may make people to likely assume that Eric Bailly or sol bamba is better than cheick komara or kanon, just because the former two play for man u and Cardiff respectively

And I insist that you can't just conclude that an avid Polish football fan knows more than an avid Nigerian football fan. Please what are your criteria for coming to such conclusion? Because of the white skin? Or because they watch football there and we watch monkey post here?

Have you not seen viewing centres here packed to the brim with passionate Nigerian fans who would give sports analyst a rub for their money? Or is it ghosts that watch Champions league in Nigeria?

Wonders shall never end
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 12:58pm On Jul 14, 2019
M7even:


Brahimi has consistently put up a good shift at Porto. He can be ranked in that level, just as mikel did with Chelsea. For brahimi His stats will attest to this.
Which elite club has brahimi played?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:59pm On Jul 14, 2019
jihday:
I fully understand you o, but I insist they are lazy and don't like adventure, what's stopping them from taking up jobs in and around Africa? We can only boast of 5 coaches to have worked outside Nigeria, to me that's not good enough


It is not easy to get job abroad. U have to have a name for yourself before they turn down their own coaches for u. Manu Garba has won the same U17 World Cup as Amunike but Ema is a household name in Africa.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Jarus(m): 12:59pm On Jul 14, 2019
Nedville:


There is a guy on YouTube, DZ football an English guy of Algerian descent who follows the premier league

He was previewing the match between Algeria and Nigeria....he praised bounedjah belaili bennacer ounas mahrez guediora as well as the whole team to high heavens

When it came to Nigeria, all he said was that he was expecting a tough match. he said he likes chukwueze...then went forward to name Mikel iwobi and ndidi as their key men....

He concluded by saying eagles lost to Madagascar and have not been stellar in this tournament...he mentioned the fact that we didn't qualify for the past two editions...that he was expecting a tough but controlled win...and that eagles wouldn't cause much problems to them

As a Nigerian watching his video, I was surprised he didn't truly know what we are capable of....but he is only going by off hand knowledge of Nigerian players because he doesn't know them of course, since he isn't a nigerian, he is not obliged to know all of them either

I'm saying this to apply this logic to some of us who think Algerians don't have players and that we can walk over them like paper, just because we don't know them or we haven't heard of them. This guy will be surprised as to what Nigerians will do....as will the rest of africa

Club for club, they are slightly ahead of Nigeria.

I think any independent (say European) follower of football will give this game to Algeria.

Mahrez's stature in world football is enough reason for bookmakers to give this game to them.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 1:06pm On Jul 14, 2019
Just saw this on twitter grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Jarus(m): 1:07pm On Jul 14, 2019
MetalJigsaw:
what of chukz and ighalo

Pick 10 random football followers on the streets of Paris or Brussels or Dubai and ask whether they know Ighalo or Chuks.

At least 7 will say they dont know either of them.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nedville: 1:07pm On Jul 14, 2019
darkelf:


And I insist that you can't just conclude that an avid Polish football fan knows more than an avid Nigerian football fan. Please what are your criteria for coming to such conclusion? Because of the white skin? Or because they watch football there and we watch monkey post here?

Have you not seen viewing centres here packed to the brim with passionate Nigerian fans who would give sports analyst a rub for their money? Or is it ghosts that watch Champions league in Nigeria?

Wonders shall never end

Mr man, I said casual..... not avid football players

Okay, let's call derdyck, an average male polish citizen and a casual football fan with wife and children who only watches football with friends and ask him to:
Name 10 English internationals
Name 10 Nigerian internationals
From which country will he name more?

He is not English, but he will name more English players than Nigerian players....why is that?

Who mentioned anything about passionate Nigerian supporters? Or packed viewing centres?

Wonders never ended

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nedville: 1:12pm On Jul 14, 2019
Jarus:


Club for club, they are slightly ahead of Nigeria.

I think any independent (say European) follower of football will give this game to Algeria.

Mahrez's stature in world football is enough reason for bookmakers to give this game to them.

Thanks my guy....you see the angle I'm coming from

This must be what made boutabout to say what he said about the upcoming match
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nedville: 1:14pm On Jul 14, 2019
Jarus:


Pick 10 random football followers on the streets of Paris or Brussels or Dubai and ask whether they know Ighalo or Chuks.

At least 7 will say they dont know either of them.




Exactly
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Jarus(m): 1:14pm On Jul 14, 2019
OK.

My view on this matter.

Our current biggest player by club (Iwobi, Arsenal)
Algeria's (Mahrez, Man City)

Mahrez is bigger in global football.

Other notable names from Algeria: Feghouli, Brahimi, Slimani

Other notable names from Nigeria: Mikel, Ndidi, Musa

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Dannyxy(m): 1:20pm On Jul 14, 2019
Like every match day, I have a word.. My fellow eagle's supporters, we are not cowards, so let's be confident in our team, and if things doesn't go our way, so be it... Till next time.. But this attitude of being too scared to support the team, because they might loose, is cowardice...
Support your team, drum your support out loud.. The lads at this point need and deserve it... Anything that happens, let's stick with them.. Don't be scared to fail people..

So my own prediction, we are winning Algeria 4 nil grin wink

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nedville: 1:20pm On Jul 14, 2019
As for belmadi who slammed Mrs mbonu ezeoke....that guy self...so someone cannot say the truth..bensebaini tried to set up wilfried zaha...only a deluded fan of the team will condone that sort of attitude....then questioned her professionalism to change the topic....how classy

Nigerians should be wary of this
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by gustav25: 1:27pm On Jul 14, 2019
The Lord is good , all the time !!!
And all the time ? The Lord is good !!!

Lord , are you speaking to me ? Can't wait to commence the Lord's work in earnest this night

Algeria 3-0 Nigeria
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 1:30pm On Jul 14, 2019
safarigirl:
if we ask any African, how many Polish players they know, you will get nothing

Most Africans don't even know Lewandoski is polish.


It was during the world cup, I got to know many polish players.

Most people all over the world dont know players from other Nations unless they are their regular opponents or club players. Infact, in the Epl, outside the top 6, u can hardly tell a player's country without using Google, unless u are already conversant with names as they relate to countries, the popular/unique ones. Can elyte89 my man name USMNT players?

So it isnt just an African thing, it is global stuff though we can argue that the more prominent ones like Spain, Germany, Dutch, Portugal etc are kinda exceptions.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 1:31pm On Jul 14, 2019
gustav25:
The Lord is good , all the time !!!
And all the time ? The Lord is good !!!

Lord , are you speaking to me ? Can't wait to commence the Lord's work in earnest this night

Algeria 3-0 Nigeria

Where have you been hiding?

The fake Ghanaian boy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by M7even(m): 1:34pm On Jul 14, 2019
MetalJigsaw:
Which elite club has brahimi played?

I Am not talking about club here.
I am simply referring to the "that guy" moment. What's the that guy moment?? Hypothetically this would be watching a football game anywhere and u see a particular player handle the ball or say display some attributes beyond those who he is up against. At this moment your curiosity is piqued to know more about the player, and it starts with the name. You are like What's his name or what number does he wear.

Certainly, with Chelsea winning a European cup and Nigeria winning the Nation's cup. Mikel gave himself a drive to be in the top 3. (p.s I now recall how pained I was that yaya toure whose team could only get to the quarter finals could emerge african player of the year.) but then, you cannot take away the "that guy" moment from toure. My point is it's the same with brahimi with Porto. Mikel had it too, obviously why he came second. But then not consistent enough for any average fan to always want to pick his name up in their memories forever. More-or-less the reasons why the ex Algerian player could not easily mention his name.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 1:38pm On Jul 14, 2019
Jarus:


Pick 10 random football followers on the streets of Paris or Brussels or Dubai and ask whether they know Ighalo or Chuks.

At least 7 will say they dont know either of them.



How can random football follower know ighalo and chuks bros na wa for you ooo, like say dem dey play for big club
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by gustav25: 1:39pm On Jul 14, 2019
andrew444:


Where have you been hiding?

The fake Ghanaian boy

I have been in the Wilderness seeking the face of the Lord

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