Godoverevery:

lol am a mfm member....we don't mention names in our prayers.
it common sense..... judge D's urself.
Any power that wants to kill me before my time they sud die with there plans. Or
any power that wants to kill me before my time God forgive them Nd make them prosper
which make more sense to you

The words of Christ

Pray for those who wish you bad

Love those who hate you

Now ask yourself... Are you a Christian?

Humulity:
My people perish for lack of knowledge. And social media is enforcing that lack of knowledge. Somebody made a comment on social media and people are queuing behind him saying Yes, he is right. That is just his opinion, what is your opinion.

It is clear that all speaking about the prayer patter never attended the MFM for once if you do all this comment wouldn't arise. You pray the DIE more than the members.

Somebody rightly pointed out on this topic DIE in this case means STOP. Meanwhile, is this the only thing you hear them say. The phrase "I REJECT, BACK TO SENDER, HOLY GHOST FIRE, I CLAIM etc", were made popular by same MFM. Some churches who were critics of the prayer pattern including orthodox churches are all praying in same manner now. In fact they buy MFM books and copy the prayers. Is the prayer not yielding result? The kingdom of darkness is not comfortable with such prayers. So I see comments like this as agenda of the enemy to attach the praying church.

However, Pastor Dr. D K Olukoya do not even know who is Daddy Freeze and Heaven is not bothered with such people.

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ovieigho:

Yea that is a typical example of how demons and principalities possessed human
Truely Jesus prayed and cast them out but they plead and bargained with christ to be casted into swine
My brother what happned to those swine? They went berserk
If today MFM continue to cast out demons into swines ,cows i wonder what nigeria would have been with those kind of animals
So let them die

I think you finally get the point... Expose, disgrace, exterminate are the language of humans... how does that offend a spirit... A spirit is offended by righteousness and holiness... Rebuke the satan with your righteousness. thank you

ovieigho:
We wrestled not against flesh and blood
But against principalities and powers
Bros we must wrestle and they must die!!

If these enemies are actually dying, We should have no burying places anymore, burial ceremonies, should have been tiresome.
The MFM worship the bringer of death, Satan the Devil. Hebrews 2:14 says " Therefore, since the 'young children" are sharers of blood and flesh, he also similarly shared in the same things, so that through his death he might bring to nothing the one having the means to cause death, THAT IS, THE DEVIL

Freeze consider these scriptures below, luke 19 v 27, lsaiah 6 v 1, 8 v 9 - 10, 49 v 26, jere 15 v 2 - 3, mfm praying - die, meaning the evil nature of the wicked should die. God curse Adam to die, doe not mean instant death. Ex 22 v 18, does not mean to kill all witches but against the evil spirit to die.

samtol4:
Another display of spiritual ignorance by freeze or fridge . Your enemy is not your neighbour or colleagues but spiritual forces.Your enemy is not your troublesome neighbour but spiritual entities . we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities and powers .Do principalities spend money for you to lend them ? When you say enemy dies it means forces working against you should stop functioning ,it means the spirit should not operate in your life anymore . Spiritual understanding is different from social media view .Unfortunate for him the man he is trying to pinch does not have time for spiritual jamboree

But Jesus didn't kill or ask any of those demon to go and die. You simply ask them to LEAVE or CAST them out. The DIE prayer is a wrong prayer

samtol4:
You are right . He doesn't understand that the enemy in this context is not your neighbour or friend but spiritual entity .Spiritual entity doesn't spend money .

i love to make friends with the highly intelligent but unfortunately you are not one of them. if you say he is right that the enemy in the context is not your neighbour or friend but spiritual entity then have you wondered if you can actually kill spiritual entities? the answer is NO, they cant die! you can only repel them so they don't come close to you

thesicilian:

It is true what they say that you cannot teach an old dog new tricks. Even the scripture you quoted is proof that the so called enemies you want to die are not the problem, the real adversaries are the principalities and powers, which you can't kill.

Yes bro. The Bible even said "pray for those that despitefully use you." So, i don't see where these MFM people get their "DIE DIE DIE" prayers from.

Sometimes, i just look at them and wag my head for them.

Kingosytex:



please counter his claim with the scriptures

Read Matt 18:6
Luke 17:2
come back and tell me which doctrine you are talking about!

The same Jesus Christ that did not spare a fig tree that could not provide food for him! Do you people even read the bible on your own or you only know what people tell you about the scripture.

For all eternity believers will always have diverse view of the scriptures but it is imperative to learn to react only when that view is hindering the salvation of souls. I am not a MFM member but i do not support this outburst by Mr. Freeze

stanliwise:
True but then again, is he wrong?
"Na fence wey fall na im make go climb am go chop crop wey dey for farm."
If we are to do anything, let us fix the fence

he is right within his own perspective of seeing things... those prayers "fall down n die " are prayed to God, is not as if we took laws into our own hands so the only question here is why does God answer such prayers? .
If my prayer sounds bad but God answers it ,shouldnt that tell you what you don't know, afterall God can never be wrong. no matter how many bsc,msc,phd a man has you can't know better than God

ednut1:
the most confused religion belongs to only one religion. every doctrine and worship can be justified using their famous book

animal

Mac2016:
Height of ignoramy of this man is high...He is just picking on pastors one after the other for popularity sake. BTW, nobody prays for enemies to die in MFM cos I am a proud member. We pray against powers and principalities and not persons!

Prayers like this is a common hear in MFM..go and see by yourself. "Any ancestral power frustrating my life, die!" Does this look like attack on person?

The idea is to stop the power from working in your own life and space. Powers and Spirits dont die!

freeze no get sense na! Even the way his blind followers jump to support his foolish rant would amaze you.

femi4:
But Jesus didn't kill or ask any of those demon to go and die. You simply ask them to LEAVE or CAST them out. The DIE prayer is a wrong prayer

God bless you Femi... you are intelligent. i said that earlier, you can't kill the demons. you can only ask them to LEAVE or CAST. remember there is power in the tongue so it is always required that you pray wright. MFM is wrong in her kind of prayer. another point i want to make is their physical aggressiveness when praying... it's funny! your physical aggressiveness doesn't add a thing to your prayers what does is what proceeds out of your mouth. the kingdom of God suffers violence and the violent taketh it by force that does not mean you have to be physically radical it simply means you have to be spiritually radical thus: i wont judge MFM but i will urge it to change her ways as they are heading towards the wrong direction.

Stephendeals:


Read Matt 18:6
Luke 17:2
come back and tell me which doctrine you are talking about!

The same Jesus Christ that did not spare a fig tree that could not provide food for him! Do you people even read the bible on your own or you only know what people tell you about the scripture.

For all eternity believers will always have diverse view of the scriptures but it is imperative to learn to react only when that view is hindering the salvation of souls. I am not a MFM member but i do not support this outburst by Mr. Freeze

God bless you. Many of his supporters don't even know Bible.

God bless every member of MFM on this thread,.am proud of you all.

Nwaforj44:


Critic, Ifedayo Olarinde, popularly known as Daddy Freeze has attacked Mountain of Fire Ministries, MFM, for praying that their enemies should die, saying such prayer is Anti-Christ doctrine.

Daddy Freeze, on his Instagram page on Wednesday said the prayer being prayed by MFM members for their enemies to die was unscriptural.

He wrote: “Dear MFM, kindly consider the following scriptures before your next prayer session. Please if you pray for your member’s enemies to die, STOP IT!

“Instead, teach your congregation to pray for their enemies to prosper and encourage them to lend their enemies money whenever they need it, expecting nothing in return, as Christ instructed us to.

“Anything outside this is an Antichrist doctrine!”

Daddy Freeze quoted several Bible passages to buttress his points, one of which was Luke 6:27,28, which read: “But I say, love your enemies! Pray for those who persecute you! Bless those who curse you. Pray for those who hurt you.”


He added Luke 6:35, which reads: “But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them, expecting nothing in return. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High; for He is kind to the ungrateful and wicked.”

https://www.akelicious.net/2019/07/daddy-freeze-to-mfm-praying-for-your.html

On this claim, I agree with Freeze. It is a no-brainer really.

Hear the words of Jesus Christ:

“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.” (Matt. 5:43-45)

He also said:

“But I say to you, do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also” (Matt. 5:38–39).

Jesus Christ himself lived this value by forgiving even those who crucified him and mocked him while he was dying on the Cross.

It is thus an aberration to pray for the destruction or death of our "enemies" in the name of this same Christ.

KidsNEXTdoor:


The words of Christ

Pray for those who wish you bad

Love those who hate you

Now ask yourself... Are you a Christian?

lol.. the two of you are wrong. yes pray for those who wish you bad and love those who hate you; that's for your kind (humans like you) not principalities and powers. the bible says for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities and powers. secondly, you can not command the demons to die for they can not die. you can only repel them by casting and binding. so if you are an MFM member commanding principalities and powers to die, then they will continue to torment you for they can not die. so start praying wright for there is power in the tongue.

teflonjake:
There's something called asking questions. I am a member of the MFM so I know a lot about this DIE controversy.

Attending the church for the very first time I was stunned *die ke* then I asked questions, please sir what do you mean by die die?

He simply replied DIE means to stop for example someone is having marital delay you pray (every power sponsoring marital delay in my life, DIE! !! Simple means stop.)

What kind of background?
What kind of school and tutoring?
Do you have a dictionary? If you do, do you consult it?
Do you know how to use google?
Do you make use of your brain at all before putting your mouth in gear?

Kindly, for your sake, and spiritual help, google the word 'die' and the word 'stop' and learn their meanings and usage.

In your church if the intent is to end something, why don't they simply use the appropriate word 'STOP'? to avoid unnecessary interpretation, translation and confusion.

Either way you cut it, Daddy Freeze is 100% right. If you or any other have a problem with his observation, inputs and corrections, then let him be and go argue with your Bible and Christ.

Your GO who misleads you is only human and subject to the law, else, his teachings are anti-christ as Freeze rightly observed and corrected.

In addition not only do you fella's worship in un-Christ ways, you disturb deliberately and ignorantly disturb your neighbourhood with unpardonable noise pollution and disturbance of public peace. True it's said that empty barrels make loud noises.

MFM worshipers and most Pentecostal churches by their antecedents are attention seekers and devoid, empty of the holy spirit hence they make loud noises.

My people perish for lack of knowledge!

ericsmith:




he is right within his own perspective of seeing things... those prayers "fall down n die " are prayed to God, is not as if we took laws into our own hands so the only question here is why does God answer such prayers? .
If my prayer sounds bad but God answers it ,shouldnt that tell you what you don't know, afterall God can never be wrong. no matter how many bsc,msc,phd a man has you can't know better than God

Don't come here and blasphem o. which God is answering which prayer. You think you can twist my small sense with "Why does God answer such prayers".
I thank God that he is sovereign.
So don't come here to claim what you don't know, except your God is not the Jehovah I worship.
Last time I checked my Holy Bible, God didn't tell us he has someone helping him to mark prayer register.
Nonsense and ingredient.

Godoverevery:

reading bible on tablet that contains porns and immorality inside the church.. if you can't carry a book dat isn't up to the weight of some tablet to church once in a week bro there something sick.....is called the holy bible it has no place on phone and tablet with immorality songs and videos.

Just look at what you are saying. So everyone that carries tablets must automatically have porn inside it?? The way u religious folks talk at times is just baffling and sardonic. Do you know what we call the Bible today was first written on stones in Greek and Hebrew languages before it was translated to Latin and English on paper??
Besides since you are claiming Holiness, then go and get the manuscripts of the Bible written originally in Hebrew and Greek languages from the dead Sea scrolls because that is where the present English Bible that has lots of translation errors came from.
And talking about porn, is there no pornography in the Bible??. Have u read songs of Solomon??
Have u read where God killed Onan because he slept with his late brother wife and spilled his sperm on the ground, instead of pouring it inside her. Read the KJV version below.
Genesis 38:7 And Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the LORD; and the LORD slew him. 38:8 And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. 38:9 And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. 38:10 And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.
Can you see the passages above. Maybe u can read newer translations to get a better view. So what's d difference between this passages and reading some erotic massage??

You religious folks need to stop this your I HOLY PASS attitude abeg. To read Bible on tablets is bad, but to collect tithe, offering and seeds with POS is very good. As if it's not same technology that produced it. Nonsense.

Godoverevery:

reading bible on tablet that contains porns and immorality inside the church.. if you can't carry a book dat isn't up to the weight of some tablet to church once in a week bro there something sick.....is called the holy bible it has no place on phone and tablet with immorality songs and videos.

I hope your children don't see this. Did you know that paper was invented just 100 years before birth of Christ and it was no were around Israel by then and if it was only people like the kings could have it, so by then what were early christains reading.... Be careful.

samtol4:
Another display of spiritual ignorance by freeze or fridge . Your enemy is not your neighbour or colleagues but spiritual forces.Your enemy is not your troublesome neighbour but spiritual entities . we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities and powers .Do principalities spend money for you to lend them ? When you say enemy dies it means forces working against you should stop functioning ,it means the spirit should not operate in your life anymore . Spiritual understanding is different from social media view .Unfortunate for him the man he is trying to pinch does not have time for spiritual jamboree

maybe u feel Freeze wrote Luke 6:35.

Bossjakande:
animal

counter the arguement. Illiterate blogger

Why disturb yourself or ourselves with the kind of prayer we prays. God is one that answers prayers, He chooses the one to answer and the one to ignore. After all Jesus even commanded that His enemies who will not allow him rule over them should be killed(Luke 19vs 27.)

J111333:
Every sane human knows he's damn right. Christ rebuked and flogged but he never for once cursed or prayed someone or thing to death. He even forgave his killers in advance but today, church leaders do otherwise.

A sane human being would ask questions why do they pray that way. In most cases he or she engages them with a talk by brainstorming scriptures. If I didn't ask them similar question to understand why I wouldn't know why they pray that way. The scriptures daddy freeze mentioned talks about physical enemies. People who were once your friends now enemies as a result of quarrel. The ones MFM deal with is the spiritual enemies which is Satan.

Daddy freeze is quite right. No christian can kill a demon, they can only be casted out of their host. Even Christ is unable to kill demons at this time, because doing so would amount to breaking scriptures. Book of revelations already revealed their end.

I think the prayer is borne out of ignorance of God's word. Is either they're praying for demons to die(which is impossible) or they are praying for the host(whom Christ died for) to die, which is witchcraft of the highest order.

We need to yield ourselves to the word of God and not doctrine of men period.

teflonjake:
There's something called asking questions. I am a member of the MFM so I know a lot about this DIE controversy.

Attending the church for the very first time I was stunned *die ke* then I asked questions, please sir what do you mean by die die?

He simply replied DIE means to stop for example someone is having marital delay you pray (every power sponsoring marital delay in my life, DIE! !! Simple means stop.)

checked the dictionary meaning of GULLIBLE,was linked to this your fleeceable write-up bruh.
You could do better

Freezee may be foolish....I ACCEPT.... But I know God can use a foolish person to educate the greatest prophet who refuse to accept the word of God in its simplicity. Remember God used animal (donkey) to bring a great prophet Balam to his senses (Num 22:21-38)

It pains me to heart when I see Christian defending the doctrines which are difficult to be found in the word of God. It is time we admitted we need a fresh revival in the church in order to bring down God's presence like the day of apostles.

Jesus says

27 “But I say to you who hear: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, and pray for those who spitefully use you (Luke 6:27-28 NKJV)

27 “Listen, all of you. Love your enemies. Do good to those who hate you. 28 Pray for the happiness of those who curse you; implore God’s blessing on those who hurt you (Luke 6:27-28 TLB)



If we continue to turn the word of God up and down to justify our doctrines, our pastors, our daddies in the Lord and so on, we are going nowhere. I pray God will help his church

stanliwise:
I hope your children don't see this. Did you know that paper was invented just 100 years before birth of Christ and it was no were around Israel by then and if it was only people like the kings could have it, so by then what were early christains reading.... Be careful.

You dey mind the mumu.

StillX10:
This man just became famous by a recent foolish followership

Salutations to you Wise one ,funny

I think the most important thing is that the enemies are actually dying as we pray.