You mean the pedophile book of camel piss drinkers?

hardeytarhyour:
He can't do such to Quran because Quran doesn't contain any human whims, fiction, False State, Or dilution ,Quran is God (ALLAAH ) written Book Sent to Prophet Muhammed to deliver it to the universe

So God who came down to die for sinners was not a good person. Lmao.

Do you know that as a human being,
rats , flies, chickens ,other animals etc see you as a devil because you kill them? Does that mean you're a devil?

Can you now see that you don't have sense?

Sapiosexuality:
Punishments, yes. But wickedness is an entirely different thing. As long as this punishment is based on a warped sense of justice, it is not a good thing. How do you justify burning an evil man and burning a good man who simply doesn't believe in God? How do you even justify burning an evil man?

Things of the spirit you say? You are missing my point. I don't deny that these things exist. My point is, whether they exist or not, whether God created or not, where there is a spirit part or not, the supreme beings in the holy books are not good people.

Well God (Jesus) said he does so who are you to say otherwise?

DavidEsq:

My dear and reasonable friend, ur reasoning is very apt. However, the concept of hell fire is alien to God. In fact, every teaching of hell is self-contradictory. God does not burn ppl with fire at all. In fact, it would first of all, contradict the freedom of man to choose between two but opposite forms of actions

KenModi:


Have you seen the statistics about the number of Christian and Islamic religious practitioners as compared to those belonging to ATR? If you have you won’t write the junk you just did

lool. Statistics my foot. How many people own up to being involved in ATR I studied Sociology and Anthropology. And i have the facts about ATR better than you, oh wise one. I have a lot to say to you but lack the time. Dont you ever at me again with your rubbish approach to conversation.

You know why? Because He is God and the custodian and owner of all things.
You don't tell God what to do on his planet and world just like your neighbor wouldn't tell you what to do in your house.

If you think God is not doing a good job why don't you create your own universe to live in? Oh! And first you must give him your body, soul and spirit first because this one you have is his.

Sapiosexuality:
From scriptures? What exactly will that change? That the murders are necessary? Why can't God help the poor but can wipe out nations? If you want to respect their freewill why end the world in Noah's time with flood? If one chooses not to use their power to do good in the name of freewill, what will we call such a person when he or she uses his power to mess up the place? God is not a good person. Tell yourself the truth. You are better than this guy.

Starlight10:
The so called scolars that are educated went to study in societies that were once primitive and worshiped deities. They were backwards before Christianity came and they stopped alot of babaric practices and moved forward in Science and education. Once they got the education and enlightenment they needed they abandoned religion because they now have it all. Africa is yet to move past the first stage of abandoning primitive and fetish practises. Stop blaming the bible and Christianity for the problems in Africa. The moment Africa abandons ATR and embraces education irrespective of Christianity or not Africa will develop.

Ill give you 5 stars for this comment. Very insightful and show a thorough grasp of the subject matter. Respect.

When people call Christianity an ordinary European religion, I just laugh over it.
I do imagine what Africa and Nigeria would have become if this white didn't come. Despite the exposure they brought see what we are still doing to one another, see the rate of ritualism, see murder, see xenophobic attacks etc.
We claim to have juju and black powers, what were these powers doing when they brought Christianity? Why can't we use these juju and black powers to stop Christianity? What was Ogun,Sango,Obatala etc doing when Christianity was spreading? Can't they stop the spread? At least Christianity met them in the land, why do they fold their hands and watch foreigners winning the heart of their own people?
When this white came to colonise us and took us as slaves, what happens to our juju and black powers? What were the gods doing, why were they not invocked against the white men to prevent them from enslaving us?
I think that if we can reason logically and not been bias there is more to this thing that people call European religion because till today, no one can boast about any visible impact ( in terms of economy,education, technology etc) that our traditional African religion, African gods and goddesses brought to us before colonization. Don't forget that even the formal education we all have today came from the missionaries that brought Christianity to Africa, therefore, there is more to this religion.

GeneralPula:


Humanity is not even better yet with the Bible...

with the Bible it's way better.. The morals of the Bible are indisputable and outstanding. Second to none

Lawrry:
When people call Christianity an ordinary European religion, I just laugh over it.
I do imagine what Africa and Nigeria would have become if this white didn't come. Despite the exposure they brought see what we are still doing to one another, see the rate of ritualism, see murder, see xenophobic attacks etc.
We claim to have juju and black powers, what were these powers doing when they brought Christianity? Why can't we use these juju and black powers to stop Christianity? What was Ogun,Sango,Obatala etc doing when Christianity was spreading? Can't they stop the spread? At least Christianity met them in the land, why do they fold their hands and watch foreigners winning the heart of their own people?
When this white came to colonise us and took us as slaves, what happens to our juju and black powers? What were the gods doing, why were they not invocked against the white men to prevent them from enslaving us?
I think that if we can reason logically and not been bias there is more to this thing that people call European religion because till today, no one can boast about any visible impact ( in terms of economy,education, technology etc) that our traditional African religion, African gods and goddesses brought to us before colonization. Don't forget that even the formal education we all have today came from the missionaries that brought Christianity to Africa, therefore, there is more to this religion.

Bless you. Because of black magic Africa is still the most backward continent.

Omudia11:
Well God (Jesus) said he does so who are you to say otherwise?

Can u sho me exactly wr he said so? Cos I can show u exactly where he said he forbids such

The Bible is at best a book of contradictions. Racism, genocide, incest, adultery, land-grabbing, and more can be justified or argued for and against using the same book. Very messed up body of text it is.[/quote]






Mumu, ure cursed already.

DOMINO001:
Reno too good abeg.
The critic should just do what Reno said in the last paragraph.

I wish I can "like" it 1000 times

Reno is such a liar... . Bible originated from Africa indeed. I hope he did enough research to know that there was nothing like the Bible until at the council of Nicea, in Constantinople, modern day Turkey, when the ruler of civilization then emperor Constantine of the ottoman empire gathered all bishops and Christian leaders to deliberate on historical scrolls and religious documents. They were the ones who decided what information should or shouldn't make it to the book, we now call the Bible.

Christianity and Islam are both tools of oppression. That is why Trump will back Isreal on one hand against Palestine, and use the other hand to back Saudi Arabia against Iran and Yemen.
Religion is for the poor and lost souls. Spirituality is for the higher beings...with freedom to become anything and everything.
Man is born free to explore and discover himself

ScotMisile:


Your likes is the reason why I have finally agree that God should destroy humanity with fire forevermore.

God Almighty, the Creator of Jehovah and Allah is not interested in burning humanity. Rather, the golden rules are:
1. Use your brain
2. Worship no god/God
3. Do good to humanity.

stefanbanach:
Iceland is non religious but they are the most peaceful country on earth. They don't even have an army.

Evangelical Lutheran Church of Iceland
Incase u die it is lie, it is that killed u.

DOMINO001:
Reno too good abeg.
The critic should just do what Reno said in the last paragraph.

LoL, no matter what he smokes, he can't never go against his father.

Christianity is just like worshipping the dead man of the cross

Sapiosexuality:
We need shed a lot. Reno insults murderous Herdsmen for uncivil behavior, and I agree with him, but he exhaults a God who made killing a thing of art. A monstrous God who murders his children for little offences. How many persons here will burn their enemies forever and ever if they can? We need to shed the timid gowns and dare the conquences for what is moral.

The Bible says according to THE SAYING OF GOD. GOD SAID "" I WILL HAVE MERCY ON WHO I WANT TO HAVE MERCY ON AND COMPARSSION ON WHO I WANT TO HAVE COMPARSSION ON.""

Omudia11:
You mean the pedophile book of camel piss drinkers?

No, I Mean Al-Qur'anu Kareem, The Book Of Wisdom, Devoid Of Contradiction and Any Alteratiion

jidenna21:

But Jesus teaches jihad �
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.— Luke 19:27

Smh Bros it's a parable, you have a lot in your suratus try and use your brain and don't isolate scriptures, same goes to those who liked your comments. Jesus never encourage jihad

stefanbanach:
Iceland is non religious but they are the most peaceful country on earth. They don't even have an army.

stop spreading falsehoods, Iceland shared in the judeo-Christian heritage like the rest of Europe.

Don't be dumb, Iceland has an Army.

lonelydora:
Reno is very sound and intelligent. He has been giving it to Buhari and Presidency back to back on Twitter.

You see, this kind of act is why I don't really blame Muslims when they kill people who joke with Mohammed and Quran. They made it in a way you don't joke with them, no matter what. They call it blasphemy and will be shouting" Allah Akbar" while slaughtering people.

I wish Christians can have such high intolerance when it come to Jesus and the Bible.

That time will come. When we are pushed to the wall we'll defend it ourselves. People are seriously abusing the GRACE.

Joybringer:
Stop exposing your ignorance bro ....

even that Dundee too is an atheist. the kid also thinks that the descendants of the Vikings don't have an army.

ifyboy60:


stop spreading falsehoods, Iceland shared in the judeo-Christian heritage like the rest of Europe.

Don't be dumb, Iceland has an Army.

Very Dumb! There many dumb people on nairaland. Imagine saying a Nation doesn't have an Army!

DOMINO001:
Reno too good abeg.
The critic should just do what Reno said in the last paragraph.

Of course the critic can't do so not because he is afraid but can't find anything to criticize: Qur'an, the single book with over millions copies all over the world having same content, the Bible gotten from same publisher differs in their contents. Assumes a translation difference that caused the Bible such, where is It's original source?

lonelydora:
Reno is very sound and intelligent. He has been giving it to Buhari and Presidency back to back on Twitter.

You see, this kind of act is why I don't really blame Muslims when they kill people who joke with Mohammed and Quran. They made it in a way you don't joke with them, no matter what. They call it blasphemy and will be shouting" Allah Akbar" while slaughtering people.

I wish Christians can have such high intolerance when it come to Jesus and the Bible.

I don't agree with you that Reno is sound and intelligent. Being able to criticize other people when you don't even need to does not mean one is intelligent. If you consider Reno intelligent what do you make of his statement that Christianity began in Africa which is another way of saying that Christianity actually preceded the birth of Jesus? His ignorance was to assume that there were Christians before Jesus, the man the faith was named after. Another of Reno's gaffe was to derail from the subject matter to another issue that I think is not necessary. Why did he bring in the issue of Quran when Islam and Muslims are not the subjects of discussion?In my opinion Reno was a poor argumentator with poor argumentative skill in defending his Christian faith. He was just being emotional with the fact that the faith he describes to was ridiculed beyond damage. I don't consider Reno reasonable or intelligent.

SaintNemesis:
Reno is such a liar... . Bible originated from Africa indeed. I hope he did enough research to know that there was nothing like the Bible until at the council of Nicea, in Constantinople, modern day Turkey, when the ruler of civilization then emperor Constantine of the ottoman empire gathered all bishops and Christian leaders to deliberate on historical scrolls and religious documents. They were the ones who decided what information should or shouldn't make it to the book, we now call the Bible.

u are spreading falsehood.

the Bible existed as sacred scriptures, the council of Nicean only added them to make a BOOK.

during the time of Constantine there was no ottoman empire. Constantine was emperor of Rome. the ottomans were Muslims.

the book of exodus happened in Africa, Jesus took refuge in Africa.

Study serious history and don't depend on gossips.

Sapiosexuality:
From scriptures? What exactly will that change? That the murders are necessary? Why can't God help the poor but can wipe out nations? If you want to respect their freewill why end the world in Noah's time with flood? If one chooses not to use their power to do good in the name of freewill, what will we call such a person when he or she uses his power to mess up the place? God is not a good person. Tell yourself the truth. You are better than this guy.

I appreciate ur analytic mind. However let's start with the first bolden: why can't God help the poor? In other words, why is there suffering? The answer to this poser lies in what happened at the beginning of life on earth. Genesis 1:31 says: "After that God saw everything he had made, and look! it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning a sixth day". Genesis 2:15-16 says: Jehovah God took the man and settled him in the garden of Eʹden to cultivate it and to take care of it. 16 Jehovah God also gave this command to the man: “From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction". This tells us that life on earth was cosy, no suffering or poverty, the bible says God's desire was that man was to have a life of satisfaction. So suffering was never part of God's plan for man. What then happened that suffering came into the world?
Genesis 2:17 says: "But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die". Now man wa given a law by God. So long as man continued to obey that law, he continued to accept God as his Sovereign, and as the one who had the right to rule over him by giving him laws. Why couldn't man make his laws, independent of God's control? Well the answer lies in the same reason u determine for ur child what is in his best interest because u love him and and wish him well. In fact, Isaiah 48:17(b) says: I, Jehovah, am your God,The One teaching you to benefit yourself,The One guiding you in the way you should walk". It means God's laws are in our best interests. Now based on wat we have seen so far, man knew wat he would do to remain cosy, just like ur child knows from wat u instruct him. Do u cause the consequences of ur child's disobedience? I think not. So wat happened na? This is it: in Genesis 3:4-5 says: At this the serpent said to the woman: “You certainly will not die. 5 For God knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and bad." what exactly was Satan saying to the woman? That she should disobey God's instructions. And if she did, she would be like God, knowing good and bad. What was it to "know good and bad" in this context? Certainly, it didn't mean recognising wrong from right. This is because man already knew wat he shouldn't do and wat he shld do. He even knew the consequences of doing wat was bad. In fact, if dis was wat the devil meant, then he would have been caught in his lie by the woman. Wat the devil was saying to Eve was dat "if she ate the fruit, she would become a god to herself, deciding for herself, wat was good and bad". That is she would be a ruler to herself and would no longer need God to give her laws. The devil made the fruit look like the only thing that stood between Eve and a godlike personality, where she exercised to decide for herself, wat was right and wrong. That was verse 6 tells us that the "woman saw that the fruit was pleasing to the eyes". Why was it so important that that fruit was the subject matter of the discussion/temptation? This is because the fruits of that tree represented the only law that God gave to man and as long as man stayed away from eating that fruit, he continued to accept God's standards of wat is right and wat is wrong, just as ur child accepts u a his guide, each time he obeys ur instructions. As soon as man chose to eat that fruit, he rejected God's standards of wat is right and wat is wrong. Consequently, he accepted the devil's own standards that man doesn't need God but can rule over himself with his own set of laws and standards. Just like a child decides to do his bidding and becomes independent of his father's control. Was the devil right? Wat was the consequence of man's action? Romans 5:12 answers that question: it says: "That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned—". So suffering came into the world as a result of man's action and the deceiver became the controller of world/man's life (compare 1 John 5:19). God never forced himself on man. Why would we be affected when we are not Adam? Well, take for example, u have two sons who u send abroad to get a better life: one stays obedient, but the other doesn't. If both sons have children in their respective circumstances, wouldn't their respective circumstances affect their kids? O yeah. This is the ultimate cause of world events of poverty. However, there are other reasons for this poverty. Let's talk about them shortly and u would see that they all come back to the beginning. Oh yes, even government policies today.

Raysleek:
Without the Bible humanity would have been worse than animality

a constitution gives guides the way of life of her citizen: Is there any constitutional features in the Bible, most esp those regarding the way of life of people? Opened minded, readily waiting for more elaboration

Sapiosexuality:
Then we can replace hell with eternal suffering and it wouldn't make much difference. Our hearts bleed when we are powerless about the poor around us. We are saddened when people do crazy things. We despise jealousy and pride. Even when men like Mayweather who can help his environment misbehave, we are broken. But God is guilty of all these things but rather than complain we worship him.

No we can't, cos the scriptures says "the dead know nothing at all", neither do they have thoughts. See Ecclesiastics 9:5,6. Let's look at the scriptures u have analysed to arrive at this conclusion. Shoot pls.