laudate:

In Nigeria, we generalise too much about these things and peddle hearsay around, instead of doing proper research to identify causes and patterns of a thing.

Please stop trivialising these issues. Oga, I posted an article in this section that shows that some people's system never stop reacting to allergens and other stuff. Kindly read up all you can about different studies done abroad concerning asthmatics.

There are doctors who say a patient can go into remission for some years, only for the asthma to flare up again years later....



You did a study or conducted research to discover 90% of people outgrow asthma?? When was this study done?

Even abroad, many doctors have now realised that athsmatic patients can go into remission for years, only for the asthma to flare up again much later.

U enjoy elongated talk.





Most people on earth outgrow Asthma.

Finish.

DonBenny77:


Your soul isn't beyond redemption, I pray for your salvation

Does it sound normal to u to believe that anyone who doesn't believe in ur God needs salvation?

MuttleyLaff:
I tell you ut this woman should still be alive because though I cant place her real age, but judging by her first born's age, then which was probably 7-9 years old, I would say she is now likely aged between 70-80 years old and doubt she has passed on

"Funnily enough one lady gave me a cure when I had the attack when at my uncle's place, it gave me instant relief, but being more or less a kid then, didn't tell parents until the next attack, by then lady was no longer a neighbour to my uncle"
- Re: Frank Edwards Healed Of Asthma By God 17 Years Ago by MuttleyLaff: 3:40pm On Jul 18

When I narrated the story to my parents during another asthmatic attack after being back at home, telling my parents that one woman, who was neighbour to my uncle, gave me something that instantly relieved me, they quickly set off trying to find this woman, but according to info, unfortunately, being that my uncle then was living in a rented house, apparently all the occupiers were served quit notice to leave the building and no one seems to know where this woman and her family moved out to. So out of desperation and based on my story, my mum, tried enquiring from her mum, my grandmum, about knowing of any local indigenious concoction mixture of various ingredients that makes people throw up but to no avail

What! How do you mean exactly that it did give you some relief please?

What that lady had in that small brown bottle of guinness, gave me instant and complete relief, not some relief by reducing the wheezing for a period of time. It was total relief, it felt like I never had the asthma before taking the stuff in the small brown bottle of guinness. I dont know what sort of asthma attack you had, but mine were badass ones, it incapacitated me, it prevented me from breathing, prevented me from breathing easily. I'll have to put my hands on my waist, put pressure on the waist, hold it down there, whilst trying to get air in and then out. It is wheezing throughtout out the day, but at night time, as in time to sleep, it when the wahala is maxed up, because you can't lie down flat anywhere to sleep. It just wont happen, you cant, you just have to sight up, be at right angle or stand up, in order to be able to breathe and catch some sleep. Asthma attack na bastard. SMH, the ting before I conquered and triumphed over it, showed me pepper, erhn? Mumsie wouldnt let me play football with my peers, if she catches me kicking ball with my mates, she'll shout, you dis boy don start, erh, sotay nau, let night come, you wont be able to sleep, afira, c'mon get inside my friend

Do you know what the cause of your asthma is? Forget about allergies and all that, but do you really understand and know what's behind the asthma, what's causing those wheezing sounds, why you are having those wheezing sounds erhn? I am asking all these straighftorward and specific questions, because I know the answers from my experiences. Inhalers, or other western medicine like alupent, they back in the days use to offer, only gives you short relief just like that your grandmum's neem leaves, lemon grass and a few other things conconction did, but with this woman's small brown bottle of guinness, it gave me relief that was instant and total

I remember passingly telling my GP, that do you know, a long time ago someone gave me something that gave me instant relief. He just dismissed it, literally with a wave of the hand. I was going on holidays, and from experience, then I have had occasions of having asthma attack without having inhalers to get me pass it, so on that period that I was about going on holidays, I was determined not to go on it without having inhalers on standby should in case I do have an attack of asthma. That's why I visited the surgeries and after getting my inhaler prescription, as a fyi, told the doctor about my experience.

I am not sure if neem leaves and lemon grass were in that small brown guinness bottle, but I surely did notice wood barks inside it plus other things, it also had a taste of gin or spirit and the content were highly concentratedly fermented. When I took a spoonful of it, it made me double up, sent my body literally into a wild spasm, it made me have convulsions up to the point of having the urge to want to vomit. It was after vomitting that I had instant and total relief. I felt like a new and different person to before taking the thing. It's a surreal experience I never had a second chance to have again.

If it would help, all I know, is that the woman's husband is originally from Kwara State, so I am guessing she is too and she had tribal marks. My uncle, then was living at Palmgrove, Lagos.

Oh goodness, you brought back memories of the bad asthma I used to have all those years back.

My symptoms sound very similar to your own back then, and I never used to sleep whenever I had an asthma attack. I just couldn't.

If I smelt anything dusty, or if I could perceive the smell of palm oil being used to fry any food, or even if I come across freshly cut grass on a mown lawn, I would start coughing and in two minutes it would turn into full blown asthma. Kai!

I don't know all the other different things that caused the wheezing, but my chest always felt so tight, as if it was being squeezed by a vice. The wheezing was loud, as I struggled to get air into my lungs, in order breathe. I also had a lot of pain in my ribs, each time I wheezed.

I missed classes in school a lot then, and I still don't know how I passed till today without repeating a class, sef.

As for the neem leaves/lemon grass concoction, I don't know why the relief it gave was not a permanent one. It merely eased the tightness in my chest, so that the wheezing was not as loud as it used to be, but did not get rid of the asthma.

The transient effects may have been due to an inadequate dosage of the mixture. I don't know. But thank God, I have been healed now, and I don't go through it, anymore.

I dont know why you, laudate and PrecisionFx are having this unneccesary ding-dong, especially when in each other's ways, you're both right. PrecisionFx says most people outgrow asthma, it is true. Now you laudate say, you're healed of your asthma, yet you are disputing what PrecisionFx said

It is true like you laudate said that, an asthma sufferer can go into remission for some years, only for the frigging asthma to unexpectedly show and show its grinning ugly face again years later. It's just like me, it's between 12-15 years ago that's the last time I've had an asthma attack, but whenever I am going on holidays, as a backup or assurance, I usually pop in to GP, ask for inhaler prescription, telling the doctor, I'll like to have one handy, should in case the mocafokker ashtma shows its ugly face. It had once played that trick on me, I went on holidays the other day and bam, out of the blue, asthma showed up and I had no inhalers to get through, somehow, I managed to scale through, but I learned a lesson that whenever going on hols to grab a working inhaler for the trip

PrecisionFx was right, when he said, most people on earth outgrow asthma and that asthma comes as a result of an autoimmune response, when and where the immune system sometimes finally accepts that the smoke, dust, paint fumes, frying/cooking oil fumes, mowing or cutting grass pollens etcetera that usually triggers the asthma shiit on, as normal substances and stops putting up defences against them by trying to react to them. The methods of defence is a build up of phlegms in the respiratory tract areas, the chest or lungs. This is a gooey substance that's a mixture of yellow, green and white sputum in your airways, and because they are blocking your airways, they are the reason you're wheezing, wheezing is the noise made, when breathed in air is forcing itself in, trying to get inhaled but the frigging phlegm/sputum has been dispatched to the chest area by the autoimmune system and blocking its easy and straightforward access in. The tightness in your chest and the feeling of as if being squeezed by a vice, is atually a build up of those frigging gooey phlegm mixture of yellow, green and white sputums in your chest area, lungs or respiratory area to be precise.

I hope you now, understand and appreciate why I was asking you that, do you know what the cause of your asthma is? To forget about allergies and all that, but do you really understand and know what's behind the asthma, what's causing those wheezing sounds, why you are having those wheezing sounds erhn?

I think asthma, is like attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) or Autism, there is spectrum. Some asthma suffers are at the low end, some mid range and some at the high end of the spectrum

"ifura logun agba" loosely translated means "vigilance is the elder person's juju medicine" For example, you wouldnt find me trying to mow a lawn, if at all I do, it will be quickly done and with precautions taken. I dont linger around more than necessary in supermarket's cold/refrigeration display sections. These two, at least, in spite of my autoimmune having re-adjusted or realigning itself towards asthma about me.

DonBenny77, dont mind PrecisionFx, if he doesnt want to give credit where credit is due, that's OK and fine. If God doesn't heal shiit. Who is behind the healing then? Satan? Nature? Nothing? Nobody? At this juncture, my fervent and sincere prayer bin say, make nobody go jam agbako, where bin say, such go get sickness wey hin go need healing for, by God's grace. Amen. If 90% of humans outgrow asthma, that as for me, ol' boy, is a big deal ooo.

Now, even if you personally dont believe in God, it doesnt cancel the fact that every soul needs salvation PrecisionFx, so it's perfectly normal for DonBenny77 to believe that any particular soul isn't beyond redemption, and then pray for its salvation. The bird in a cage indoors, wouldn't believe in a garden or the trees outside the cage, wouldn't believe these things are real and out there. Most of us, are like that and so still a bird with its wasteful thinking and ignorant remarks, in its cage with a door that's not securely latched

MuttleyLaff:
I dont know why you, laudate and PrecisionFx are having this unneccesary ding-dong, especially when in each other's ways, you're both right. PrecisionFx says most people outgrow asthma, it is true. Now you laudate say, you're healed of your asthma, yet you are disputing what PrecisionFx said

It is true like you laudate said that, an asthma sufferer can go into remission for some years, only for the frigging asthma to unexpectedly show and show its grinning ugly face again years later. It's just like me, it's between 12-15 years ago that's the last time I've had an asthma attack, but whenever I am going on holidays, as a backup or assurance, I usually pop in to GP, ask for inhaler prescription, telling the doctor, I'll like to have one handy, should in case the mocafokker ashtma shows its ugly face. It had once played that trick on me, I went on holidays the other day and bam, out of the blue, asthma showed up and I had no inhalers to get through, somehow, I managed to scale through, but I learned a lesson that whenever going on hols to grab a working inhaler for the trip

PrecisionFx was right, when he said, most people on earth outgrow asthma and that asthma comes as a result of an autoimmune response, when and where the immune system sometimes finally accepts that the smoke, dust, paint fumes, frying/cooking oil fumes, mowing or cutting grass pollens etcetera that usually triggers the asthma shiit on, as normal substances and stops putting up defences against them by trying to react to them. The methods of defence is a build up of phlegms in the respiratory tract areas, the chest or lungs. This is a gooey substance that's a mixture of yellow, green and white sputum in your airways, and because they are blocking your airways, they are the reason you're wheezing, wheezing is the noise made, when breathed in air is forcing itself in, trying to get inhaled but the frigging phlegm/sputum has been dispatched to the chest area by the autoimmune system and blocking its easy and straightforward access in. The tightness in your chest and the feeling of as if being squeezed by a vice, is atually a build up of those frigging gooey phlegm mixture of yellow, green and white sputums in your chest area, lungs or respiratory area to be precise.

I hope you now, understand and appreciate why I was asking you that, do you know what the cause of your asthma is? To forget about allergies and all that, but do you really understand and know what's behind the asthma, what's causing those wheezing sounds, why you are having those wheezing sounds erhn?

I think asthma, is like attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) or Autism, there is spectrum. Some asthma suffers are at the low end, some mid range and some at the high end of the spectrum

"ifura logun agba" loosely translated means "vigilance is the elder person's juju medicine" For example, you wouldnt find me trying to mow a lawn, if at all I do, it will be quickly done and with precautions taken. I dont linger around more than necessary in supermarket's cold/refrigeration display sections. These two, at least, in spite of my autoimmune having re-adjusted or realigning itself towards asthma about me.

DonBenny77, dont mind PrecisionFx, if he doesnt want to give credit where credit is due, that's OK and fine. If God doesn't heal shiit. Who is behind the healing then? Satan? Nature? Nothing? Nobody? At this juncture, my fervent and sincere prayer bin say, make nobody go jam agbako, where bin say, such go get sickness wey hin go need healing for, by God's grace. Amen. If 90% of humans outgrow asthma, that as for me, ol' boy, is a big deal ooo.

Now, even if you personally dont believe in God, it doesnt cancel the fact that every soul needs salvation PrecisionFx, so it's perfectly normal for DonBenny77 to believe that any particular soul isn't beyond redemption, and then pray for its salvation. The bird in a cage indoors, wouldn't believe in a garden or the trees outside the cage, wouldn't believe these things are real and out there. Most of us, are like that and so still a bird with its wasteful thinking and ignorant remarks, in its cage with a door that's not securely latched

Why is it that ur asthma happens wen ur on holidays @ home but not wen u are away?



Meanwhile I believe in God, the only difference between u and me is that I don't believe in ur own concept of God.

PrecisionFx:
Why is it that ur asthma happens wen ur on holidays @ home but not wen u are away?

In the past 10-15 years, I haven't had any asthma attacks when on hols, I just used to pick an inhaler prescription when going on hols, should in case like on one occasion I had a nasty shockibg experience when the frigging asthma crept up on me without me having am inhaler to give me relief and almost spoilt my hols. That is why I used visit my GP for an inhaler before going on one but in the last 7-9 years I haven't been bringing inhalers with me when going on vacation and nothing has happened.

PrecisionFx:
Meanwhile I believe in God, the only difference between u and me is that I don't believe in ur own concept of God.

It's a good start you believe in God. I am extremely please you do. I really am.

You don't know what concept of God I believe in and/or know

MuttleyLaff:
In the past 10-15 years, I haven't had any asthma attacks when on hols, I just used to pick an inhaler prescription when going on hols, should in case like on one occasion I had a nasty shockibg experience when the frigging asthma crept up on me without me having am inhaler to give me relief and almost spoilt my hols. That is why I used visit my GP for an inhaler before going on one but in the last 7-9 years I haven't been bringing inhalers with me when going on vacation and nothing has happened.

It's a good start you believe in God. I am extremely please you do. I really am.

You don't know what concept of God I believe in and/or know

I do not need to know ur own concept of God because I'm already sure it can't be same with mine. I have my own I created personally from life experiences.




What do u mean by hols?

PrecisionFx:
I do not need to know ur own concept of God because I'm already sure it can't be same with mine. I have my own I created personally from life experiences.

What makes you think I should expect you to have the same concept of God like mine hmm? Have you walked with God in my shoes ni that I'll think you have the same concept or experience of God like I have no?

PrecisionFx:
What do u mean by hols?

All work but no play, no hols, makes Jack a dull and irritable person. Everyone sometimes needs a break from the grind of life. Everyone goes on hols, on vacation to get away from the stresses of life. Everyone has a kit kat. That's what hols is or means, so please stop behaving like or pretending to be an "ajepako"

MuttleyLaff:
What makes you think I should expect you to have the same concept of God like mine hmm? Have you walked with God in my shoes ni that I'll think you have the same concept or experience of God like I have no?

All work but no play, no hols, makes Jack a dull and irritable person. Everyone sometimes needs a break from the grind of life. Everyone goes on hols, on vacation to get away from the stresses of life. Everyone has a kit kat. That's what hols is or means, so please stop behaving like or pretending to be an "ajepako"

Who do u only need asthma inhaler only wen on hols?

PrecisionFx:
Who do u only need asthma inhaler only wen on hols?

Didn't you read that I never did until when it crept up on me on a particular holiday and almost spoilt it for me ni? That was before until when I stopped picking up the inhalers and I haven't had any reason to regret no more picking up inhalers again. Touch wood.

MuttleyLaff:
Didn't you read that I never did until when it crept up on me on a particular holiday and almost spoilt it for me ni? That was before until when I stopped picking up the inhalers and I haven't had any reason to regret no more picking up inhalers again. Touch wood.

Wen u are not on hols, where do u stay?

PrecisionFx:
Wen u are not on hols, where do u stay?

In my yard.

MuttleyLaff:
In my yard.

Where do u stay before hols

PrecisionFx:
Where do u stay before hols

My yard, always stay in my yard before holidays

MuttleyLaff:
My yard, always stay in my yard before holidays

Which means u don't get triggered in ur house....Only outside wen u travel

PrecisionFx:
Which means u don't get triggered in ur house....Only outside wen u travel

I used to have it at my house and when I travel on hols to my other homes but as you rightly observed my auto immune system seems to have stopped reacting to bringing on asthma and realigned itself to whatever it is that used to trigger the asthma when I am at my various homes that I used to be asthmatic in.

MuttleyLaff:
I dont know why you, laudate and PrecisionFx are having this unneccesary ding-dong, especially when in each other's ways, you're both right. PrecisionFx says most people outgrow asthma, it is true. Now you laudate say, you're healed of your asthma, yet you are disputing what PrecisionFx said

It is true like you laudate said that, an asthma sufferer can go into remission for some years, only for the frigging asthma to unexpectedly show and show its grinning ugly face again years later. It's just like me, it's between 12-15 years ago that's the last time I've had an asthma attack, but whenever I am going on holidays, as a backup or assurance, I usually pop in to GP, ask for inhaler prescription, telling the doctor, I'll like to have one handy, should in case the mocafokker ashtma shows its ugly face. It had once played that trick on me, I went on holidays the other day and bam, out of the blue, asthma showed up and I had no inhalers to get through, somehow, I managed to scale through, but I learned a lesson that whenever going on hols to grab a working inhaler for the trip

PrecisionFx was right, when he said, most people on earth outgrow asthma and that asthma comes as a result of an autoimmune response, when and where the immune system sometimes finally accepts that the smoke, dust, paint fumes, frying/cooking oil fumes, mowing or cutting grass pollens etcetera that usually triggers the asthma shiit on, as normal substances and stops putting up defences against them by trying to react to them. The methods of defence is a build up of phlegms in the respiratory tract areas, the chest or lungs. This is a gooey substance that's a mixture of yellow, green and white sputum in your airways, and because they are blocking your airways, they are the reason you're wheezing, wheezing is the noise made, when breathed in air is forcing itself in, trying to get inhaled but the frigging phlegm/sputum has been dispatched to the chest area by the autoimmune system and blocking its easy and straightforward access in. The tightness in your chest and the feeling of as if being squeezed by a vice, is atually a build up of those frigging gooey phlegm mixture of yellow, green and white sputums in your chest area, lungs or respiratory area to be precise.

I hope you now, understand and appreciate why I was asking you that, do you know what the cause of your asthma is? To forget about allergies and all that, but do you really understand and know what's behind the asthma, what's causing those wheezing sounds, why you are having those wheezing sounds erhn?

I think asthma, is like attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) or Autism, there is spectrum. Some asthma suffers are at the low end, some mid range and some at the high end of the spectrum

"ifura logun agba" loosely translated means "vigilance is the elder person's juju medicine" For example, you wouldnt find me trying to mow a lawn, if at all I do, it will be quickly done and with precautions taken. I dont linger around more than necessary in supermarket's cold/refrigeration display sections. These two, at least, in spite of my autoimmune having re-adjusted or realigning itself towards asthma about me.

DonBenny77, dont mind PrecisionFx, if he doesnt want to give credit where credit is due, that's OK and fine. If God doesn't heal shiit. Who is behind the healing then? Satan? Nature? Nothing? Nobody? At this juncture, my fervent and sincere prayer bin say, make nobody go jam agbako, where bin say, such go get sickness wey hin go need healing for, by God's grace. Amen. If 90% of humans outgrow asthma, that as for me, ol' boy, is a big deal ooo.

Now, even if you personally dont believe in God, it doesnt cancel the fact that every soul needs salvation PrecisionFx, so it's perfectly normal for DonBenny77 to believe that any particular soul isn't beyond redemption, and then pray for its salvation. The bird in a cage indoors, wouldn't believe in a garden or the trees outside the cage, wouldn't believe these things are real and out there. Most of us, are like that and so still a bird with its wasteful thinking and ignorant remarks, in its cage with a door that's not securely latched

I disputed what PrecisionFx said, because there is no medical study or empirical evidence to back up his claim! Nigerians like taking half of a story and spreading it, until people begin to believe it is the gospel truth, when it is not.

I have asked him to provide evidence of medical studies conducted to buttress his claim, he has been unable to do so. Yet he continues repeating his fairytale that people outgrow asthma.

I lost two friends to asthma who were full fledged adults. They both developed asthma in childhood and it followed them into adulthood. One of them was even a father of 3 kids. How come they didn't outgrow their own asthma?

There are many different auto immune diseases in the world. How come people don't outgrow the other ones, yet you want us to believe they can outgrow asthma? Such stories of "outgrowing asthma" may lead some asthmatics to become careless, with their health.

I was healed of asthma. Yes! I did NOT outgrow it. I had asthma from a young age until adulthood, when I was finally healed through divine intervention as an adult. That is NOT the same thing as outgrowing asthma.

If I start spreading stories that I outgrew asthma simply because I got divinely healed, I would be lying or misinforming people and causing them to have a wrong mindset, that might put their lives at risk.

And we need to avoid that!

Is it really difficult to be good?