Dam5reey:


I don't understand you oo, Like I said Mi 9T is not even close to what My Pixel 2 can offer.

pixel 2 has nothing on the mi 9t apart from the camera and probably the ip rating,mi 9t is a more modern device

godspeed:
Design

This is a no brainer, the design of the SE is far better than the K20, thank God genius has posted a link that settles that, besides the k20 looks so ugly at least from the back while the SE looks so premium both front and back.

Where is the comparison with the K20 in the attachment you posted?

Design is subjective. What I like might not be what another likes. There are people who don't like any form of notch, there are those who prefer the iPhone X kinda notch to all this other iteration of notches.

This your argument is null and void.

genius43:


Where is the comparison with the K20 in the attachment you posted?

Design is subjective. What I like might not be what another likes. There are people who don't like any form of notch, there are those who prefer the iPhone X kinda notch to all this other iteration of notches.

This your argument is null and void.

very null and void

genius43:

Upload them on Imgur and share link with me.

I will

godspeed:


Let's start with processor, no doubts, everyone knows which device wins here but then, this is sd730 Vs Sd 712, the difference ain't noticeable in everyday use . Nobody can tell the difference by handling both devices you need to check the specs before you can tell .

Even then, this is still comparing the same 7** series chipset, it's not like comparing 7** and 8**.

Let's face it, there is nothing you throw at the730 that the 712 cannot also take. I challenge you to name one task the k20 will handle better than the mi 9 SE.

People talk about gaming, the truth is hardcore gamers will always go for SD 855 nothing less will do. It's just like laptops, hardcore gamers go for Gaming laptops while the everyday user go for something less.

In truth, is" Actually anything 675 or above is fast nowadays, the chips has gotten so good these days even tht mid-range ones are not being fully utilized to they do potential in most tasks. The major difference has always been the GPU but I have yet to found a game that the 675 doesn't play well at decent graphic settings" https://amp.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/c06gfg/sd730_vs_sd855/

In summary I'll borrow a quote from one of the k20 fans here:

You skipped comparing the Snapdragon 712 Vs 730 and running to it's 2 steps ahead senior brother SD 855 to find solace, which is the basis of our argument.

And you mentioned the SD 675. Common the SD 712 is just in your words "marginally" better than it but that won't make me recommend the RN7pro over the Mi 9 SE.

nwaobitex:
can I get link to the zip file

Flash the two files and wipe cache before reboot

https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=11410963190603856469


https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=11410963190603856470

drjprince:
pixel 2 has nothing on the mi 9t apart from the camera and probably the ip rating,mi 9t is a more modern device

I will prefer the ancient phone with latest support.

Your Mi 9T is on dreaming of that maybe next year it will get Android 10

Not even on July security patch yet..

michealdeco:
your package just arrived Lagos not orlu

So you'll wait until it's picked up by Owerri nipost and sent to orlu PO

Oh! I thought it was orlu.. Thank you Mike

Damritoh:
Alhaji Lei Jun's Gospel Is Spreading
I Saw Redmi Note 7's Banner In Oshogbo Around Oke Fia Yesterday .. Although They Only Have Redmi 7 In Stock For Now In The Shop

You live in oshogbo?

godspeed:
The second point is:

Battery

Here, we also know who wins, 3070ah Vs 4000mah. But in the smart phone world, this doesn't tell the whole story. Phones, particularly chipset, always have their way of optimizing power, the SE has a much smaller screen and can optimise it's battery. The battery on this full lasts a full day on a single charge, tell me is that not good enough? And it's not as if the 4000mah lasts for 2days.

Again, premium brand like Apple and Samsung have Less than 4000mah on their flagship and nobody is complaining though those phones do more processes than the k20.

Samsung M30 has a 5000mah battery,are you going to choose it above the S10 with 3400 man?

Even Xiaomi mi 9 has 3300mah, are u going to choose the k20 over it?

Of course, I understand the consideration in the above scenarios are much more than battery, but at least that still proves a point that a better battery does not tell the whole story.

The funny thing is, no matter the capacity of ur battery, people still carry power banks around.

Bros ....are u for real?
With d 9Se 712 processor optimize than 730 on k20?
On top of 3 against 4000mah?
Kai bros....u fall hand here!
This is getting childish already ....
Pls Atheistandproud... disqualify this Match!
Lets have another!

atheistandproud:
Seems like I haven't missed much.

Yes yes welcome welcome. It's like my hype machine really got everyone buzzing.

Now to the fight at hand.

Which is the better phone? MI9SE Vs K20 PRO

Which would you buy if you had the money and why?

Kick off imminent. Let's go.

K20pro of course even k20/mi9t is still better than mi9se even if the margin is not much

godspeed:


Let's start with processor, no doubts, everyone knows which device wins here but then, this is sd730 Vs Sd 712, the difference ain't noticeable in everyday use . Nobody can tell the difference by handling both devices you need to check the specs before you can tell .

Even then, this is still comparing the same 7** series chipset, it's not like comparing 7** and 8**.

Let's face it, there is nothing you throw at the730 that the 712 cannot also take. I challenge you to name one task the k20 will handle better than the mi 9 SE.

People talk about gaming, the truth is hardcore gamers will always go for SD 855 nothing less will do. It's just like laptops, hardcore gamers go for Gaming laptops while the everyday user go for something less.

In truth, is" Actually anything 675 or above is fast nowadays, the chips has gotten so good these days even tht mid-range ones are not being fully utilized to they do potential in most tasks. The major difference has always been the GPU but I have yet to found a game that the 675 doesn't play well at decent graphic settings" https://amp.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/c06gfg/sd730_vs_sd855/

In summary I'll borrow a quote from one of the k20 fans here:

Ain't noticeable?
U for say 660AIE on RN7 and 675 on RN7 pro ain't also noticeable!
See if na this 2 department of battery and optimization....no go there!
That is flawless win against the Mi9SE!
Another argument pls!

zainkay:
Flash the two files and wipe cache before reboot

https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=11410963190603856469


https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=11410963190603856470

ok do I need to install the Dolby app

scotweezy:
@godspeed list 5 strong relevant features the mi9se has over the mi9T save for the more compact size?

Why? You listed just 2, why should I give 5? Anyway you've helped me with one, I'll give the other soon

MeshachMARTINS:

If a phone have all these over another, what doesn't make it better than the other?
PS: the mi 9t is just new,the price is yet to drop,so comparing its price to the already fallen price of the 9se is biased
So if its se u can get,be happy and hold your peace,instead of saying it better than what it isn't, xiaomi aint stupid, people buying 9t over se ain't mad .
You base your argument on your personal preference while others base their own on general preference.
I personally like 9se for its compact size,but i can't say its better than mi 9t,when am not blind

As the price of the k20 drops, the price of the mi 9 SE drops further

Dam5reey:




I will prefer the ancient phone with latest support.

Your Mi 9T is on dreaming of that maybe next year it will get Android 10

Not even on July security patch yet..

I am personally not a fan of boring stock andriod I prefer feature fill ui like miui to stock andriod

nwaobitex:
ok do I need to install the Dolby app

No you will find the app when you reboot

Babaheekmat:
Now rocking my Max 3. From maceybayland

please wet my appetite with pictures, I am looking to buy the max 3 when i sell of my rn7

abdsamad:
Mi9 se isn't better than the mi 9t.
This is a madgoat argument that will surprisingly end in the mi 9se defender buying a mi 9t down the road anyway.

SE is a better fit for some but overall it's a step below or on par with the 9t, depending on who u ask.
haven't used dem but I'm hoping i can trick ur minds to just accept it n stop running around in circles

Oh I see, you guys are shifting small small I tot u guyz said it was a no contest from the start

godspeed:


Oh I see, you guys are shifting small small I tot u guyz said it was a no contest from the start

Like i said, i was just trying to please both sides.
so sure, they're the same.

Can we rest now

Uh

godspeed:
The second point is:

Battery

Here, we also know who wins, 3070ah Vs 4000mah. But in the smart phone world, this doesn't tell the whole story. Phones, particularly chipset, always have their way of optimizing power, the SE has a much smaller screen and can optimise it's battery. The battery on this full lasts a full day on a single charge, tell me is that not good enough? And it's not as if the 4000mah lasts for 2days.

Again, premium brand like Apple and Samsung have Less than 4000mah on their flagship and nobody is complaining though those phones do more processes than the k20.

Samsung M30 has a 5000mah battery,are you going to choose it above the S10 with 3400 man?

Even Xiaomi mi 9 has 3300mah, are u going to choose the k20 over it?

Of course, I understand the consideration in the above scenarios are much more than battery, but at least that still proves a point that a better battery does not tell the whole story.

The funny thing is, no matter the capacity of ur battery, people still carry power banks around.

everything you said boils down to preference.
If mi 9t and mi 9se are similar, whatever makes me go for any makes that choice better than the forfeited irrespective of if it's battery or size or camera.
That's why they have little differences.
Personally I'll go for the mi 9t because of battery, the camera is close, that radio is a plus for me because there are some places I go to that there's not a single cell tower close by but there's local radio frequency, how man wan take hear news. FM radio is very popular in Abuja especially that ordinary president programme.

drjprince:
I am personally not a fan of boring stock andriod I prefer feature fill ui like miui to stock andriod

MIUI is overrated..

UI does not affect the apps I use.

genius43:


You are running around in circles.

The Redmi K20/Mi 9T Vs Mi 9SE stick to it.

Since you want to deviate let me educate you.

Battery life of any phone is dependent on factors which include Battery size, battery optimization, battery efficient processor and sometimes the UI it runs on.

Back to the Mi 9 SE Vs Mi 9T/K20

Do you think if the both phones have the same battery the Mi 9SE will out last the K20 despite its smaller display? Not really.

Why? The SD 730 is more power efficient than the SD 712 thanks to the 8nm process the formal employs.


If battery don't matter, why did people prefer the S10+ to the regular S10?
And if you don't know the S10 + is the flagship from the S10 line up.

You are basing battery size on S10, is S10 the only flagship you look up to or is it the golden boy of all flagships? No. Let me run down a list of flagship devices of 2019 and see if your analysis is not wrong.

Huawei P30 pro - 4200mah
Asus ZenFone 6Z - 5000mah
Lenovo Z6 pro - 4000mah
OnePlus 7 pro - 4000mah
Sony Xperia 1 -3300mah
Xiaomi Mi 9 - 3300mah
Samsung S10 + - 4100mah
Honor 20 Pro -4000mah
Redmi K20 Pro - 4000mah.

Can you now see that the trend is changing.

Don't be bias and blind in arguments

Thank u, so people choose the S10+ over the S10 because of the battery? I know you're joking right. Otherwise why don't they choose the M30 with a better battery.
A phone that lasts u a day on a single charge isn't cool enough for u? Even then y'all still carry power bank around.

Talking about flagships, I can see u conveniently left out iPhone. Remind me their battery capacity.
You can also add the latest Tecno phantom with 3400 may for good measure

godspeed:
Design

This is a no brainer, the design of the SE is far better than the K20, thank God genius has posted a link that settles that, besides the k20 looks so ugly at least from the back while the SE looks so premium both front and back.

I'll still post a YouTube link by a k20 fan who concedes the mi 9 SE has better design

Design is also down to preference

Mykcool:

Design is also down to preference

Then why did he list it as a strong point for the k20

genius43:


Where is the comparison with the K20 in the attachment you posted?

Design is subjective. What I like might not be what another likes. There are people who don't like any form of notch, there are those who prefer the iPhone X kinda notch to all this other iteration of notches.

This your argument is null and void.

But your ally listed it as a point in favour of the K20

godspeed:


Thank u, so people choose the S10+ over the S10 because of the battery? I know you're joking right. Otherwise why don't they choose the M30 with a better battery.
A phone that lasts u a day on a single charge isn't cool enough for u? Even then y'all still carry power bank around.

Talking about flagships, I can see u conveniently left out iPhone. Remind me their battery capacity.
You can also add the latest Tecno phantom with 3400 may for good measure

Talking about fla

And are people not complaining of the flattering iPhone battery life?

Huawei even mocked them by sharing powerbanks for people on the queue to purchase iPhones last year.

But it seems you like avoiding arguments when all odds are against you, so I leave you to your degree of understanding.

godspeed:


Why? You listed just 2, why should I give 5? Anyway you've helped me with one, I'll give the other soon

Incase you missed it, I listed Processor, Battery, More trendy design, and missing bits like the 3.5mm Jack and Radio.

You can't tell me a phone that has lesser of the features above and lacking some entirely is better than the phone that has them.

All your points above have been countered with facts and figures with proper reference by @genius43.

Up till now, most of your points have been subjective, nothing objective in them.

Show me a detailed comparison from a reputable source that puts the Mi9SE above the Mi9T overall or hold your peace.

genius43:


You skipped comparing the Snapdragon 712 Vs 730 and running to it's 2 steps ahead senior brother SD 855 to find solace, which is the basis of our argument.

And you mentioned the SD 675. Common the SD 712 is just in your words "marginally" better than it but that won't make me recommend the RN7pro over the Mi 9 SE.

All I asked for is a task the 730 can perform but the 712 can't.

See I once sold my Samsung galaxy note 4 and bought a Samsung c7pro with inferior chipset, but everything I was able to do on the note 4, I did flawlessly on the c7pro

godspeed:
So much for the significant points, now let's move on to the irrelevances Add ons

Radio

I'll give the same response I gave earlier,


that is exactly why u don't need radio on ur phone, cos there is internet radio!
I presume u have DSTV at home and I'm sure u are aware it has awesome radio stations, how many times have you ever tuned to them?

Remember those phones of 10 years ago that have television, why is there no brand putting television on their phones today?

Talking about radio in the smartphones of 2019 is so ridiculous, the premium brands apple and Samsung have removed it from their phones for not less than five years, I doubt even if apple had the feature right from time.

Sincerely, if I'm to choose between two phones of exact same spec and maker, say Nokia 6 and one has a radio and the other doesn't, believe me that will never influence my decision, in that case it's the colour that will decide.

Like I said earlier, I asked my colleagues in the office if anyone still listens to radio on there phones and they were all stunned.

Believe me the radio feature is also going the way of the television feature

can you remember how info was transmitted sometime last year I think , when there was a natural disaster in the U.S and cell towers were knocked down? OEM'S were advised to unlock their radio on smartphones.

From your tone I'll say your work is usually inside a building (office)
If your work entails entering forest or boats to remote places without road network, where you only rely on GPS location you'll understand the importance of radio and a very good battery backup.

All what you guys are arguing on is personal preference.
Just as you're saying apple dropped the 3.5 jack , same way people are dropping the notch.. everyone with their own choice. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
Everyone with what works for him/her..

I love both phones, but there are certain things I consider a must for which ever I'm going to buy

godspeed:
Earphone jack

Another ridiculous feature in 2019, something iPhone have ditched for 5 years. Who cares about that? But if you do, the mi 9 SE comes with an adaptor and an earpiece. I didn't even remove them from the carton.

earphone jack is not a ridiculous feature pls...
Wired headphones are way better than wireless especially when it comes to gaming...

scotweezy:

Incase you missed it, I listed Processor, Battery, More trendy design, and missing bits like the 3.5mm Jack and Radio.

You can't tell me a phone that has lesser of the features above and lacking some entirely is better than the phone that has them.

All your points above have been countered with facts and figures with proper reference by @genius43.

Up till now, most of your points have been subjective, nothing objective in them.

Show me a detailed comparison from a reputable source that puts the Mi9SE above the Mi9T overall or hold your peace.

Those are not features you find in flagship, yet they are still called flagship, Where are those features on OnePlus 7 pro??

I can say a phone without 3.5mm and radio can be likened to a flagship