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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 6:19am On Jul 20, 2019
Trippledots:


Yup..

Hmmm. I really can't be sure what you'd do apart from replacing the batteries to get it working again. Like I said earlier, those batteries will be available on those foreign online stores.

Okay, so I was able to do some checking after which i came to the conclusion that your battery may be Nickel hydride (Ni-H batteries have a nominal voltage of 1.2v, and are rechargeable). Also the price of it further reinforces the possibility of what's in your device being Nickel-hydride. Except it is expressly stated like it was in the manual that came with the sinometers, most manufacturers will wanna go with cheaper component options, in this case nickel-hydride batteries. The lithium variant is more expensive, shipping inclusive.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 6:24am On Jul 20, 2019
olaolu11:


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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 6:28am On Jul 20, 2019
olaolu11:


The array is stand alone. Distance is 12 feet from panel to wall, 20 feet ground floor to ceiling and 36 feet within ceiling to drop 7 feet to controller. All approximate calculations about 78 feet. I live in top flat of a 1-storey rental apartment so I am not permitted to punch landlords roof.

You may nit really need to punch the roofs. If your panels are not too many or the big wattage types, installers may use binding wires to hold the panels securely in place, tethered to the original nails that were used for the roofs. The corrugations on the roof will give ample space for aeration and ventilation under the panels.

You just need to sweet talk your landlord to give in, explaining to him that not a single scratch will be made on his property in the process of installing your panels. You can even evangelize green energy to him by the time he sees how you enjoy with less noise from combustion generators.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 6:47am On Jul 20, 2019
olaolu11:
House please advise on best way to go. I presently have 4*150watts solar panels(alaba), 40a and 60a pwn controller(ali express), 12volt 900vac luminous inverter(jumia), 4+ yrs old 100ah Leoch battery and 3week old 200ah mercury battery(alaba). My load is 1 LG flat screen TV(dont know the wattage but 1.1amps), fridge 1200watts, but not very sure, freezer(1250watts, not too sure),dstv, startimes and gotv decoder alternately used(5amps I think) , 8*5watts bulbs, blender(300watts), washing machine (320watts). TV is 12 hours, fridge and freezer 24 hours, others as the need arises and fan only dry season or when there is heat. I rewired the household to isolate heavy users from the inverter; only fans, TV and lights are on inverter. Others are powered by public grid or generator. I may likely retain this until I have upgraded to capacity to carry all which is when I move to my own apartment. We hardly have public supply in my area and it is intermittent which you can't even predict.

My array is stand alone. Distance is 12 feet from panel to wall, 20 feet ground floor to ceiling and 36 feet within ceiling to drop 7 feet to controller. All (approximate calculations) about 78 feet. I live in top flat of a 1-storey rental apartment so I am not permitted to punch landlords roof. And no chance to shift from present array location due to space constraint. The cable I use presently is join-join 1.5mm pumping machine DC cable which I connected to my old (4+years)100ah battery that gives me about 1½ hours daily. I power the battery with her as I don't want to connect the solar to the new 200ah battery until I get a good cable. The present array fluctuates between 0.2 and 4.5 read from charge conctroler. Only the 40amp controller is in use. The other is in storage.

Areas I need assistance is,
1. Do I buy new inverter of 2.4, or 3.5kva as the present inverter seems too small to charge the battery(will soon buy another 200h battery)
2. What is my cable size, 6, 10 or 16mm(consider future upgrade)
3. What accessories do I still need to get?
Thanks

PS pictures will come later

Bro, your set up (900va inverter+150watts x 4 panels) may just be sufficient for your TV (if it's 32" LED or 32"LCD) and a few lighting points (LED lights), and yes sufficient during sun hours but not with the spent 100amps battery. Though the 200amps new battery may suffice for extended back up of 6 hours after sundown but in that case I will advice you up your panel sizes in order to adequately charge your new 200amp during sun hours else it risks failing early. Your LG TV will most likely have power saving mode and I will advice you adopt that (a 32" LCD LG at full blast consumes around 80 watts, 40 watts at power saver)

You can get yourself a wattmeter to address the many "unsures" you have about the power ratings of your appliances. But I'll also add that you should plan towards replacing (either piecemeal or all at once) your gadgets to power saving ones.

Needed to set aside a 10-yr-old functioning 106 litres 400 watts Thermocool freezer for a 110 litres 114 watts 72 hours off power freezing capacity variant and it is hooked conveniently to 150 watts x 4 panels and 600 watts (1200 watts surge) inverter.

Also if you still intend to maintain that panel-SCC distance, then get cables with better gauges (those "join join" 3-core or 4 core pumping machine cables sold by our brothers are 2mm falsely rated 4mm and I realized that the day I saw the real 4 core in a solar shop). Doubling your pumping machine wires may work somewhat but not the best solution.

If you are on national grid with fairly good online time, you can buy a 20amps standalone charger to help augment your 200amp battery juice when you eventually start using it.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 8:30am On Jul 20, 2019
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojeysky(m): 10:32am On Jul 20, 2019
So this morning I saw 1.2kw on my current badly oriented 1.5kw array. This further gives me hope that by the time I put it on standalone, it can only be better.
MPP solar GK series seem to be performing greatly.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojeysky(m): 11:26am On Jul 20, 2019
olaolu11:


The array is stand alone. Distance is 12 feet from panel to wall, 20 feet ground floor to ceiling and 36 feet within ceiling to drop 7 feet to controller. All approximate calculations about 78 feet. I live in top flat of a 1-storey rental apartment so I am not permitted to punch landlords roof.

If you can guarantee equal sunlight to all panels then my suggestion is that you get a controller with high voc (yes you imagine I will suggest mppsolar wink ) and then connect your panels in series,
Get a armoured dual core 10mm to do your entire cabling, it's 1k per yard, cheaper for you since it's 2 in 1.

PS: I am still an apprentice in this solar thing Sha o grin

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by olopan(m): 3:42pm On Jul 20, 2019
ojeysky:


If you can guarantee equal sunlight to all panels then my suggestion is that you get a controller with high voc (yes you imagine I will suggest mppsolar wink ) and then contact your panels in series,
Get a armoured dual core 10mm to do your entire cabling, it's 1k per yard, cheaper for you since it's 2 in 1.

PS: I am still an apprentice in this solar thing Sha o grin
Have you found a better way to get your standalone buildup make out yet.....
let me know, i would like to throw in a few pointers.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by totalgreen01: 5:33pm On Jul 20, 2019
very correct, it's like it as a stabilizer built in.. my phed voltage was about 200v but the inverter was giving out 220v very cool

i will test the "AC-DC-AC conversion" .. but for off-grid guys or non-prepaid guys, it does not matter

mank1234:


Yeah. It's zero. My dream inverter. Major appeal is that between mains input voltage of between 100 and 270v you get same output of 220v; that is if you dont use bypass mode. No need for voltage regulator.


However, I read comments that it consumes more than 100w when on mains due to the AC-DC-AC conversion (double conversion loss). Not really a problem as our electricity tarrif is low.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by eleojo23: 5:38pm On Jul 20, 2019
Please what is the effect of connecting long wires from the battery to the inverter? Does it affect the voltage?
I have seen many people recommending the use of short wires.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by NiyiOmoIyunade(m): 7:33pm On Jul 20, 2019
There is no effect so long as you use the appropriate type and gauge (thickness) of wire for your application.

The enemy you are battling is called voltage drop with the attendant energy losses. Because residential DC applications are usually low voltage (inverter to battery below 100v), you will need to upsize your standard cable length if you plan longer distances between inverter and batteries.

E.g a 3.5kva inverter operating at nominal 48v may need 16mm wires at 3 feet between inverter and batteries - increase that distance to 10 feet and your application may call for 25mm to 35mm wire.

The best way to go is to use all those online voltage & amps vs cable length and size charts and specify your acceptable loss % between 1% to 3%. The tool will spit out a cable gauge (thickness) recommendation for your application.

If in doubt, go up to the next thicker wire size grin


eleojo23:
Please what is the effect of connecting long wires from the battery to the inverter? Does it affect the voltage?
I have seen many people recommending the use of short wires.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by eleojo23: 8:14pm On Jul 20, 2019
NiyiOmoIyunade:
There is no effect so long as you use the appropriate type and gauge (thickness) of wire for your application.

The enemy you are battling is called voltage drop with the attendant energy losses. Because residential DC applications are usually low voltage (inverter to battery below 100v), you will need to upsize your standard cable length if you plan longer distances between inverter and batteries.

E.g a 3.5kva inverter operating at nominal 48v may need 16mm wires at 3 feet between inverter and batteries - increase that distance to 10 feet and your application may call for 25mm to 35mm wire.

The best way to go is to use all those online voltage & amps vs cable length and size charts and specify your acceptable loss % between 1% to 3%. The tool will spit out a cable gauge (thickness) recommendation for your application.

If in doubt, go up to the next thicker wire size grin



Wow..detailed info. Thanks
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojeysky(m): 10:45pm On Jul 20, 2019
olopan:

Have you found a better way to get your standalone buildup make out yet.....
let me know, i would like to throw in a few pointers.

Sure I used the attached recommendation that I got from a friend after we brainstormed about it. Though I didn't get to plan for 12 anymore. I only did for 9 panels. Ingredients:

3" Galvanized poles
1.5" angle bars
12mm rods combined with 8mm that I had at home.

Welder put it all together and then the rest is getting it strongly fitted with concrete. It's standing now. Hopefully next weekend will get to move the panels.

Regards

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by harizonal123(m): 7:37am On Jul 21, 2019
I have been using this new top light battery brand of 12v200amh for about 3 weeks now & I intend buying another 12v200amp of a different brand maybe quanta next week to add to it. Is advisable to mix batteries of different produce. The top light product I'm currently using is not too impressive at the moment. I won't like to buy a second one of it. Pls what's ur advise
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Oshomo12(m): 9:52am On Jul 21, 2019
harizonal123:
I have been using this new top light battery brand of 12v200amh for about 3 weeks now & I intend buying another 12v200amp of a different brand maybe quanta next week to add to it. Is advisable to mix batteries of different produce. The top light product I'm currently using is not too impressive at the moment. I won't like to buy a second one of it. Pls what's ur advise

No and no, QED!

which ever way u look at it, it's still, NO. Thank you.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 10:50am On Jul 21, 2019
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by idsolar(m): 11:24am On Jul 21, 2019
harizonal123:
I have been using this new top light battery brand of 12v200amh for about 3 weeks now & I intend buying another 12v200amp of a different brand maybe quanta next week to add to it. Is advisable to mix batteries of different produce. The top light product I'm currently using is not too impressive at the moment. I won't like to buy a second one of it. Pls what's ur advise

NO NO NO. way out: sell d 2 top lights batrs, add money, get 4 quanta or stick with 2 quanta, keep d change and have ur rest. shikenan

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by eleojo23: 3:13pm On Jul 21, 2019
Oshomo12:

No and no, QED!
which ever way u look at it, it's still, NO. Thank you.
grin

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Trippledots(m): 3:49pm On Jul 21, 2019
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by zeestone99(m): 5:07pm On Jul 21, 2019
Affordable all in one solar street light

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Nobody: 5:42pm On Jul 21, 2019
harizonal123:
I have been using this new top light battery brand of 12v200amh for about 3 weeks now & I intend buying another 12v200amp of a different brand maybe quanta next week to add to it. Is advisable to mix batteries of different produce. The top light product I'm currently using is not too impressive at the moment. I won't like to buy a second one of it. Pls what's ur advise
so you still went ahead and bought alaba battery for 80k despite the good suggestions from some good guys here!!!

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 7:59pm On Jul 21, 2019
zeestone99:
Affordable all in one solar street light

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*Capacity of backup battery
*Hours under solar insolation required to charge fully.
*Is it induction? (I think I can see a tiny PIR sensor in that picture). If yes, what modes are available?
*Hours of operation after dawn (at full illumination o, not on-off PIR induction or full-dim PIR induction.
*Dimensions of the item itself.

Forgive me if it looks like I'm asking too much. Just wanna know more 'bout the product.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by funken: 11:11pm On Jul 21, 2019
Gurus in the house, thinking of upgrading to a 48v battery system (with 8 batteries) and with 9 250W solar panels. I read @DMerciful comment some pages ago https://www.nairaland.com/390522/solar-energy-complement-fta/358#65328776 saying PV voltage of times 2 battery voltage is best for some brands of CC. I intend using a fangpusun 150/60 bluesolar clone. Barring any system bottlenecks, can you recommend the best PV array connection for the 9 panels I intend to use to harvest the maximum energy? Thanks.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by SolnergyPower: 8:16am On Jul 22, 2019
3S3P. That is,

a. Connect three in series, thereby making three sets of panels connected in series.
b. Then, parallel the sets of series.

See the image below.


funken:
Gurus in the house, thinking of upgrading to a 48v battery system (with 8 batteries) and with 9 250W solar panels. I read @DMerciful comment some pages ago https://www.nairaland.com/390522/solar-energy-complement-fta/358#65328776 saying PV voltage of times 2 battery voltage is best for some brands of CC. I intend using a fangpusun 150/60 bluesolar clone. Barring any system bottlenecks, can you recommend the best PV array connection for the 9 panels I intend to use to harvest the maximum energy? Thanks.

CC NiyiOmolyunade
pranil
GeorgeD1
bigrovar

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by funken: 8:38am On Jul 22, 2019
Thanks!! Appreciate the swift response. Are there precautions to take when installing on an old asbestos roof? Any particular accessories that can be used in mounting these panels to asbestos roofs as against the metal roofing sheets?

SolnergyPower:
3S3P. That is,

a. Connect three in series, thereby making three sets of panels connected in series.
b. Then, parallel the sets of series.

See the image below.


Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by SolnergyPower: 9:43am On Jul 22, 2019
As long as the asbestos roofing sheets are still strong, you should not have any issues. You may use a roofing guy as a precautionary measure if you are not sure of the status of the asbestos.

There are standard solar panels mounting kits sold here, those should help. But if you are low on budget, you can use those aluminium frames used for making windows frames as shown below.

funken:
Thanks!! Appreciate the swift response. Are there precautions to take when installing on an old asbestos roof? Any particular accessories that can be used in mounting these panels to asbestos roofs as against the metal roofing sheets?

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by idsolar(m): 10:56am On Jul 22, 2019
funken:
Thanks!! Appreciate the swift response. Are there precautions to take when installing on an old asbestos roof? Any particular accessories that can be used in mounting these panels to asbestos roofs as against the metal roofing sheets?


hmm asbestos roof. ok. proper care not to overstep to avoid cracks leading to leakages. if asbestos is that thick strong ones, u may need driller to give way to ur screws or nails. have roof sealant or patch available, I don't do asbestos without roof patch. every of my nails/screw goes through a patch or I patch cover it. talking from experience o. take care. enjoy ya money.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 11:49am On Jul 22, 2019
funken:
Thanks!! Appreciate the swift response. Are there precautions to take when installing on an old asbestos roof? Any particular accessories that can be used in mounting these panels to asbestos roofs as against the metal roofing sheets?


Hello, if asbestos sheets are old , wet ,weak etc >> do not stress it as it isn't worth it to avoid injury & leakages which can be worrisome ! You can as well improvise other means by thinking outside the box !! Cheers

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by durodee(m): 5:40pm On Jul 22, 2019
Had this Binatone appliance connected to my 1.5HP Polystar AC. The readings have been strange. When plugged on it reads zero watts and as the compressor kicks in, the reading starts from around 600w and then ramps it up to about 900w

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by durodee(m): 5:46pm On Jul 22, 2019
SolnergyPower:
As long as the asbestos roofing sheets are still strong, you should not have any issues. You may use a roofing guy as a precautionary measure if you are not sure of the status of the asbestos.

There are standard solar panels mounting kits sold here, those should help. But if you are low on budget, you can use those aluminium frames used for making windows frames as shown below.

Good one! How do you anchor those rails to the roof? Any special precaution? Thanks
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by durodee(m): 5:52pm On Jul 22, 2019
ojeysky:


Sure I used the attached recommendation that I got from a friend after we brainstormed about it. Though I didn't get to plan for 12 anymore. I only did for 9 panels. Ingredients:

3" Galvanized poles
1.5" angle bars
12mm rods combined with 8mm that I had at home.

Welder put it all together and then the rest is getting it strongly fitted with concrete. It's standing now. Hopefully next weekend will get to move the panels.

Regards
Pictures?

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