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Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by imitateMe(m): 1:31pm On Jul 22, 2019
asuustrike1:

What are their mistakes if I may ask?
She claimed the incident happened in 1999 when the pastor had his child, but the pastor had his child in 2000. This will be used against her according to the judge.
Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by Nobody: 1:33pm On Jul 22, 2019
OshoOO:
I will even be surprised if they are able to frame any charge against him. You can only be convicted of a crime where there is evidence and there is no single doubt in your favour. From the story of that lady, the only evidence is her oral testimony. The Evidence of whoever she narrated the event to between then and now can at best be "hearsay" which has no value in law. She won't be able to establish the ingredient of whatever offence the Police might want to frame against the Pastor if there is no confession. Yes it took her time to come out to say it (if it actually happened), she delayed in getting justice, and surely she will be denied. Am more afraid for her. It will be better for the matter to die now, if not, if a charge is frame and the Pastor is prosecuted and discharged, she might need to wake FRA Williams from the grave to get her out of the huge damages that will follow, when the Pastor starts his own suit against her. I expect her to lawyers to have told her this.
Tell me something
Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by Nobody: 1:34pm On Jul 22, 2019
imitateMe:

She claimed the incident happened in 1999 when the pastor had his child, but the pastor had his child in 2000. This will be used against her according to the judge.
Hmmmm!
Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by Nobody: 1:48pm On Jul 22, 2019
delawal:
whether convicted or not, d truth is that d pastor fatoyinbo has been exposed as a sex predator he is. DT guy takes advantage of women. he is evil, not fit to be called a christian talk more of a pastor. he will try to use money to salvage his already battered influence
He was allegedly no proof yet.
Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by Nobody: 1:50pm On Jul 22, 2019
bakescos01:


No one can say what really happened that day between the Pastor and the lady. It's between both of them and God. No one knows the actual truth. We should stop picking sides. What if she accused the man wrongly? There is no burden on anyone. The burden can only be on the lady or the man if he actually raped her. We should stop judging issues with emotion but with fact. Also, stop believing everything you hear from these so-called celebrities. Most are not who you think they are when you meet them one on one. Don't follow the crowd. Reason critically.
I like your submission
Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by Nobody: 1:55pm On Jul 22, 2019
CanadaOrBust:


How much? Or r u COZA?

Nigerians are watching. U may saturate social media with COZA people and your paid agents, but true Nigerians are also watching.

Here are some things people are saying:

“Sending a truck load of well armed policemen to invite a woman who claimed she was raped is just so very wrong. It says to the woman that the police is working for the accused, otherwise a couple of officers could have stopped by her house to deliver the letter in a none threatening way“

“A civil case local to Lagos that should be answered in a nearby police station in Lagos. How did it become a federal criminal case with lurking armed policemen from the IGP from Abuja suveiling a private citizen’s home and intimidating him to sign a paper to appear in Abuja”

“Once a cultist is always a cultist ,forget either pastor or no pastor”.

“Fatoyinbo was the high priest of a cult in Ilorin. You can’t attain such position without killing people. He should kindly confess how many people he killed.”

“If it were only one accuser it would be different. Think of all the women damaged by this guy”

“One striking thing about these CONSENSUAL SEX proponents is that they have forgotten that Pastor Fatoyinbo is SUPPOSED to be a pastor and spiritual father to then YOUNG NAIVE BUSOLA. Careful GROOMING made it appear like consensual sex. Betrayal of trust on the part of a pastor should be condemned.”
Did the so called Nigerians see this?

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Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by Nobody: 1:58pm On Jul 22, 2019
Graduateacher:
So does this judge have the final say? he must be very stupid. Every court has high, appeal and supreme because even judges are not sure of themselves. This judge is an idiot
He gave an unbiased view except you are just been sentimental. A reasonable judge work with fact not hearsay.
Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by Nobody: 2:01pm On Jul 22, 2019
akejujoe:
Busola may not get the justice she deserves but we all know she has done something courageous by coming out to say this and have saved other potential victims from pastor Fatoyinbo. Even if it was consensual sex like some idiots have said,is it right for a married pastor to be having sex with his teenage church member?
Do you rely on hearsay to draw conclusion?
If your husband is accused of rape would you believe the victim wholeheartedly?
Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by CanadaOrBust: 2:09pm On Jul 22, 2019
asuustrike1:

Did the so called Nigerians see this?

Pure nonsense. Some nobody who wasn’t there. Is that guy NPF spokesperson?
Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by Nobody: 2:20pm On Jul 22, 2019
CanadaOrBust:


Pure nonsense. Some nobody who wasn’t there. Is that guy NPF spokesperson?
So you rather believe Tim's statement and refute this person's claim? where is your objectivity in this matter?

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Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by CanadaOrBust: 2:51pm On Jul 22, 2019
asuustrike1:

So you rather believe Tim's statement and refute this person's claim? where is your objectivity in this matter?

Timi WAS THERE!
Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by crafteck(m): 2:53pm On Jul 22, 2019
Bobby4090:
Why should a case Biodun filed in a Lagos court be taken to Abuja. Are there not forensic experts in Lagos for a simple issue of rape? How could a rape victim be told to be coming to Abuja to give evidence? The sad side of this is that girls will now be scared of shaming their abusers.

The fact that you mentioned forensic experts in this kind of case says it all.... It was a no case..
Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by Nobody: 2:57pm On Jul 22, 2019
CanadaOrBust:


Timi WAS THERE!
So! This other guy wasn't there too?
Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by CanadaOrBust: 2:59pm On Jul 22, 2019
asuustrike1:

So! This other guy wasn't there too?

No, he clearly wasn’t or that’d be first thing he’d state
Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by Nobody: 3:01pm On Jul 22, 2019
CanadaOrBust:


No, he clearly wasn’t or that’d be first thing he’d state
Ok.
Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by delawal: 3:14pm On Jul 22, 2019
asuustrike1:

He was allegedly no proof yet.
if na ur daughter was raped. will u be saying "alleged" in a cool way like DT. na only him be pastor for naija. why not others. why always him. his lifestyle as a pastor tells more than is heard abt him
Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by Nobody: 3:23pm On Jul 22, 2019
delawal:

if na ur daughter was raped. will u be saying "alleged" in a cool way like DT. na only him be pastor for naija. why not others. why always him. his lifestyle as a pastor tells more than is heard abt him
Mr man stop been emotional as i work with fact and prove not sentiment. Peradventure my daughter was raped, the first thing I would do is to take her to the hospital for forensic test and then establish a case involving a sound lawyer. Was that the case of Busola?

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Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by babeosisi: 3:26pm On Jul 22, 2019
simiife:




So wat do u suggest?he shud b prosecuted 4 jumping from bed to bed as a pastor.Datz a sin against God and not man,and God will surely punish him 4 dat.

Show me a place on earth where som1 has been prosecuted 4 jumping from bed to bed bcoz he is a pastor

I don't know how to respond to foolish Questions from people without understanding.
Sorry
Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by delawal: 3:44pm On Jul 22, 2019
asuustrike1:

Mr man stop been emotional as i work with fact and prove not sentiment. Peradventure my daughter was raped, the first thing I would do is to take her to the hospital for forensic test and then establish a case involving a sound lawyer. Was that the case of Busola?
in other words a rape of many years can't be reported or revealed?
Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by CanadaOrBust: 3:59pm On Jul 22, 2019
asuustrike1:

Mr man stop been emotional as i work with fact and prove not sentiment. Peradventure my daughter was raped, the first thing I would do is to take her to the hospital for forensic test and then establish a case involving a sound lawyer. Was that the case of Busola?

What if your daughter tells u she was raped years ago? You’d have IGP send a detachment to come to your home and make her sign to appear in Abuja?

Nigerians are watching.
U can saturate social media with coza people and paid operatives, but real Nigerians are also watching.

Here are some things people are saying:

“Sending a truck load of well armed policemen to invite a woman who claimed she was raped is just so very wrong. It says to the woman that the police is working for the accused, otherwise a couple of officers could have stopped by her house to deliver the letter in a none threatening way“

“A civil case local to Lagos that should be answered in a nearby police station in Lagos. How did it become a federal criminal case with lurking armed policemen from the IGP from Abuja suveiling a private citizen’s home and intimidating him to sign a paper to appear in Abuja”

“Once a cultist is always a cultist ,forget either pastor or no pastor”.

“Fatoyinbo was the high priest of a cult in Ilorin. You can’t attain such position without killing people. He should kindly confess how many people he killed.”

“There are other more prominent pastors. Ask yourself why this particular one is the one being accused by several women.”

“One striking thing about these CONSENSUAL SEX proponents is that they have forgotten something called statutory rape - that Pastor Fatoyinbo was SUPPOSED to be pastor and spiritual father to then YOUNG AND NAIVE BUSOLA. Careful GROOMING made it appear like consensual sex. Betrayal of trust on the part of a pastor should be condemned.”

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Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by Nobody: 4:00pm On Jul 22, 2019
delawal:

in other words a rape of many years can't be reported or revealed?
According to Dr Omole global evidence shows that if there are 10 allegations of historical nature against a person; usually 3 will be false, 3 will be True and 4 will be exaggerated. An accused may be Innocent of a particular allegation; but could be guilty of others.
This answers your question

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Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by Nobody: 4:22pm On Jul 22, 2019
What if your daughter tells u she was raped years ago? You’d have IGP send a detachment to come to your home and make her sign to appear in Abuja?
I would ask the following questions
1. Why raise an issue that happened years ago if it is true? What is the ulterior motive behind this?. Were you cheated or you just felt you want to defame a person?
2. Why didn't you tell me this all while when we lived in the same house if your assertions are true?
In reaction to IGP detachment, she should expect that because she allegedly accused someone without fact. I don't support intimidation but she should expect it since she in for a war. Should I believe her statement because she was raped the answer is No. The reason is because all these years we lived together she couldn't tell me rather she just woke up one morning to lay accusations against a person. I don't have to be emotional because you are my daughter rather I seek for the truth.


Nigerians are watching.
U can saturate social media with coza people and paid operatives, but real Nigerians are also watching.

Here are some things people are saying:
I don't need to read those stories because it is expected. The Nigeria system is bad especially the police force. You don't expect a VIP treatment given to that family because they are celebrities. The common man on the street experience such yet you rarely see the media criticize them the way they are doing now. Timi started this drama so he should deal with it. To those Nigerians already crucifying someone when he hasn't be sentenced continue with the social media trial. It is expected of them since the country is messed up.

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Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by Anas09: 7:01pm On Jul 22, 2019
Remimadrid:
This would be a disgrace to d people who pay to the GoFundMe page created by Timi Dakolo and his wife. Would they ask for refund or what.
Shout out to all the Yeyebrities in Nigeria and the Idiots we have on Nairaland, wey insult and condemn Fatoyinbo without SUBSTANTIAL evidence, una all dey craze.
And the last shout out to Timi and wife, it's not easy to come up with a new way to scam ourselves. I Hail oo.
cheesy
Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by laudate: 8:17pm On Jul 22, 2019
Namestack:
Oga from her own confessional, she had cousins, sisters and pastors who intervened then and they all still thought it wise to allow her go back to the church and remain in close contact with the pastor (her alleged rapist).

Infact, by her own confessional still, a couples deliverance was organized for she and the pastor to rid them both of their uncanny lust.

There is more to this story than meets the eye and blind followers hip without careful logic would only continue to compound the dakolo's case.

The pastor slept with her, I am wont to agree, but rape? I disagree and all of these conclusions stems from her own side of the story as we are yet to hear the pastor give full account.

Timi organizing a press conference is only further damaging his defense in the case of criminal conspiracy, defamation and threat to life. He has publicly and on record threatened, defamed and have caused others to do same and do so on record.


Proving a case of conspiracy, threat to life and defamation and the effect of his defamation is fairly easy. The evidence litter the internet but the in case of rape or statutory rape ( if we would argue she was a minor), would be as difficult as a camel passing through the eyes of a needle... Funny, Timi has started to see the hand writing on the wall.

The social media outburst, press conference and several clandestine moves are telling signs of a man clutching at straws, hoping for a miracle.

Oga, my previous response was made in reaction to the person who alleged that Busola and Timi were trying to scam the pastor. sad

I didn't see any evidence of a scam on the part of the couple, neither did I see why a woman who has much more to lose, would risk all she has by going public with details of the sexual assault she suffered at the hands of the pastor, especially when the danger of stigmatisation is so real. undecided

Secondly, Timi in all his posts on social media has not issued any death threats against the pastor, unless you have probably seen such threats and I haven't. shocked

The only threats he has issued has been the threat to expose the wrong doings of the pastor. Does that qualify as a death threat? I don't think so. sad

Now as for the charges of conspiracy...it needs to be well defined. Conspiracy to do just what exactly? Tarnish his reputation? But the pastor did so to himself years ago, when he decided to sexually assault an underaged girl.

If the case goes to court, there are chances that the pastor would incriminate himself under cross-examination. And that would shed more light on this case. undecided

I believe strongly that the pastor had unlawful carnal knowledge of Busola, and abused his spiritual position to do so.

He might not end up in jail, but the outcome would serve as a deterrent to randy pastor's out there, who think they can get away with such things. sad
Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by akejujoe(f): 9:16pm On Jul 22, 2019
asuustrike1:

Do you rely on hearsay to draw conclusion?
If your husband is accused of rape would you believe the victim wholeheartedly?
I will not blindly insist he is not guilty when the accusation becomes one too many like in the case of Fatoyinbo. I will make my investigations and will even go as far as talking to the accusers to do my personal findings and draw my conclusion so that karma will not haunt me if I shield the truth and allow a fellow woman suffer because of blind loyalty. All my children are girls so I won't watch my husband do that to another person's daughter. In this case,your pastor has not categorically said he did not have sex with Busola. He only said he did not rape her which may actually be how he saw it but if sex actually happened between them at that time,then it is statutory rape.
Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by simiife: 9:41pm On Jul 22, 2019
babeosisi:


I don't know how to respond to foolish Questions from people without understanding.
Sorry




Lie lie,u don't know wat to say datz y u re calling it a foolish q,
Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by simiife: 9:45pm On Jul 22, 2019
bukas15:
sex with a minor is a crime Nd as such it is punishable



Yes na,I know but she wasn't talking about sex with a minor, she talked about pastor jumping from bed to bed
Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by Nobody: 12:16am On Jul 23, 2019
akejujoe:
I will not blindly insist he is not guilty when the accusation becomes one too many like in the case of Fatoyinbo. I will make my investigations and will even go as far as talking to the accusers to do my personal findings and draw my conclusion so that karma will not haunt me if I shield the truth and allow a fellow woman suffer because of blind loyalty. All my children are girls so I won't watch my husband do that to another person's daughter. In this case,your pastor has not categorically said he did not have sex with Busola. He only said he did not rape her which may actually be how he saw it but if sex actually happened between them at that time,then it is statutory rape.
Thank God you said you would investigate. Let the police and court do their job instead of relying on the alleged victim's story. There is more to this case that many Nigerians are not seeing. The involvement of the media and the presidency says it all.A common man wouldn't get this kind of publicity like we are seeing now. Do not just believe the allegedly victim's story alone. It is so unfortunate that the accused hasn't given full statement hence making the alleged victim's husband angry.
Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by expert234: 1:02pm On Jul 23, 2019
mystic77:

You sound brain dead... So you mean when accused of a crime, you actually did it or have done something related to it?... There is no certainty he had sex with her cause he was accused. Tend to be rational and not reason with sentiments.

I hold my personal opinion he had sex with her, though i still think it was consensual and not rape. But i try arguing with logic and not allowing my personal opinion becloud my thinking.
We have to kick against rapist and in the same vein against those who accuse people wrongly, I've seen women who take advantage of rape and use it to contain men, when sone women are in dilemma, feel threatened, or her secret is about been spilled and it involves a man, so many will want to use the rape card to bring the man down. We have kids, both male and female and we should protect both.
So if a woman accuses a man of rape, you automatically believe her?



Police invited Dakolo, the accuser, but failed to invite Fatoyinbo, the accused. And you are still here acting like the devil has cursed you with mental blindness.

Your father must have placed a curse on you. If not, you won't be acting like a brain dead basstard.
Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by mystic77(m): 4:31pm On Jul 23, 2019
expert234:




Police invited Dakolo, the accuser, but failed to invite Fatoyinbo, the accused. And you are still here acting like the devil has cursed you with mental blindness.

Your father must have placed a curse on you. If not, you won't be acting like a brain dead basstard.
You are so stupid, how did you know the police never invited fatoyinbo or you think it's everyone who put all there activities on social media?... Fatoyinbo might have been interviewed without people knowing....unlike someone shouting gunmen on social media.
Learn to reason and not jump into conclusion... Never stad for ear says

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Re: Charles Omole: Biodun Fatoyinbo May Not Be Convicted, Busola Has No Evidence by expert234: 6:22pm On Jul 23, 2019
mystic77:

You are so stupid, how did you know the police never invited fatoyinbo or you think it's everyone who put all there activities on social media?... Fatoyinbo might have been interviewed without people knowing....unlike someone shouting gunmen on social media.
Learn to reason and not jump into conclusion... Never stad for ear says

If you are not a cursed dumb basstard, you will provide a link to the news about Fatoyinbo's invitation by the police.

Pastor worship has turned you into a total dumb idiot

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