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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 4:46pm On Jul 21, 2019
Algerian fans . grin

ID the rifle


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zfa-Ull5N0
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by CaptainStephen(m): 5:53pm On Jul 21, 2019
LTGEN:

Bro why don't you just wait till the NAF releases it.
You certainly see to be in a rush to gather certain information.
this guy ! Wetin you wan carry am do? :\
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Toju200(m): 6:41pm On Jul 21, 2019
CaptainStephen:
this guy ! Wetin you wan carry am do? :\
I love our indigenous military hardware I love get more and fresh pics of them bidexiii knows the love I have for indigenous military hardwaregrin so do u have a problem with that.....:/

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by QuietMynd: 10:02pm On Jul 21, 2019
Toju200:
I love our indigenous military hardware I love get more and fresh pics of them bidexiii knows the love I have for indigenous military hardwaregrin so do u have a problem with that.....:/

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by CaptainStephen(m): 10:38pm On Jul 21, 2019
Toju200:
I love our indigenous military hardware I love get more and fresh pics of them bidexiii knows the love I have for indigenous military hardwaregrin so do u have a problem with that.....:/
grin just messing with ya
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by saengine: 11:20am On Jul 22, 2019
SANDF internal deployment

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by 61mech: 12:52pm On Jul 22, 2019
There's no "technical" issues for the F22 not being exported. The production was stopped for political and financial reasons.
LockMart and Boeing spent millions on lobbying to have the F-22 production cancelled by congress. This was done ,because the F22 was a threat to F-35 production. The F-35 simply made more money for LockMart than the F-22 and the airforce ordering more F-22's or exporting would seriously threaten the F-35 program which they knew was running onto problems.
That's why the F-22 production tooling and jigs were destroyed to make it financially problematic to re-start production. There's simply no other explanation and the lobbying is well documented.
Ask yourself why the F15/F16 production line is still open after decades, but the F-22 had all its tooling destroyed by an act of congress. All the congressmen that pushed the legislation were heavily lobbied by LockMart and had F-35 production facilities in their districts.

The export ban had the same roots. The US exports far more sensitive tech to the Japanese (who begged for the F-22) than the F-22.
They have the latest Aegis and Spy radars on their destroyers for example.


nemesis8u:


One of the technical reason why f22 cannot be released for export is becz the f22 was solely built for domestic use and as such it's components don't have the usual anti reverse engineering countermeasures built in.

and since their manufacturing has stopped long ago , it is impossible to built insitu safeguards into those components and prohibitively expensive. Also the tech used then for f22 isn't compatible as such with current tech.

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Fidha254(m): 1:11pm On Jul 22, 2019
Third visit by Kenya Army commander to KDF troops in Somalia, and he seems generally keen in listening to the views of the boots on the ground. I hope is cooking up something wink

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 4:36pm On Jul 22, 2019
Algerian1:
Algerian fans . grin

ID the rifle


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zfa-Ull5N0

Ma nigga ma nigga grin woke ladies tongue
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 4:38pm On Jul 22, 2019
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 5:24pm On Jul 22, 2019
TayserMahri:


Very true ma nigga grin
You copied, pasted, quoted a post from another thread to this place for what?

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by slimthugchimee2(m): 5:28pm On Jul 22, 2019
Odunayaw:
You copied, pasted, quoted a post from another thread to this place for what?

grin grin grin
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Toju200(m): 6:31pm On Jul 22, 2019
Another bomblast rocks Somalia killing 17 injuring others.... God help Africa

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Xbee007(m): 6:37pm On Jul 22, 2019
Toju200:
Another bomblast rocks Somalia killing 17 injuring others.... God help Africa
Islam is the worst thing that happened to Somalia.
That country has huge potential but see what religion fundamentalism has reduced it to.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Toju200(m): 6:53pm On Jul 22, 2019
Xbee007:

Islam is the worst thing that happened to Somalia.
That country has huge potential but see what religion fundamentalism has reduced it to.
that nation was damn reduced Africa forces needs to stand up and put up the fight using kinetic and non kinectic ops.....
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Toju200(m): 7:09pm On Jul 22, 2019
Bahrain and Saudi are the sponsors of terrorism
Proof:Today it was on the news that Bahrain hired a former alqaed terrorist to assasinate some Sunni political figures.....he then later contacted his other terrorist team(Al qaed) for weapons of assasination but was arrested on his way to Saudi to take delivery of the weapons
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:23pm On Jul 22, 2019
Toju200:
Bahrain and Saudi are the sponsors of terrorism
[b]Proof:Today it was on the news that Bahrain hired a former alqaed terrorist to assasinate some Sunni political figures.....he then later contacted his other terrorist team(Al qaed) for weapons of assasination but was arrested on his way to Saudi to take delivery of the weapons
[/b]You never could've said it better
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Toju200(m): 8:28pm On Jul 22, 2019
kemicalreaction:
[/b]You never could've said it better
Rephrase
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:55pm On Jul 22, 2019
TayserMahri:


Very true ma nigga grin
how did my comment even came here I thought I commented on a thread about nollywood but stay away from me you taysermahri guy
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:07am On Jul 23, 2019
Odunayaw:
You copied, pasted, quoted a post from another thread to this place for what?

Not meant for here. Must have been drunk I'm only seeing the mistake now.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:07am On Jul 23, 2019
spendoon:

how did my comment even came here I thought I commented on a thread about nollywood but stay away from me you taysermahri guy

You know where it was meant for
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 9:50am On Jul 23, 2019
Btw,I notice many NA vehicles,soft skin even AFVs and MRAPs lack radios.





Imo,this basic mission enabler should be prioritised over Tucs,gunships and kinetic systems! In all the NA convoy pix I rarely see radio antennas. Every platoon,dismounted or not must be on call;forget the Leprechaun SINGCCARS and other Gucci kit restricted to SOFs: basic platoon level comms is compulsory.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:00pm On Jul 23, 2019
SANDF soldiers with Rheinmetall UGV

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:59pm On Jul 23, 2019
61mech:
There's no "technical" issues for the F22 not being exported. The production was stopped for political and financial reasons.
LockMart and Boeing spent millions on lobbying to have the F-22 production cancelled by congress. This was done ,because the F22 was a threat to F-35 production. The F-35 simply made more money for LockMart than the F-22 and the airforce ordering more F-22's or exporting would seriously threaten the F-35 program which they knew was running onto problems.
That's why the F-22 production tooling and jigs were destroyed to make it financially problematic to re-start production. There's simply no other explanation and the lobbying is well documented.
Ask yourself why the F15/F16 production line is still open after decades, but the F-22 had all its tooling destroyed by an act of congress. All the congressmen that pushed the legislation were heavily lobbied by LockMart and had F-35 production facilities in their districts.

The export ban had the same roots. The US exports far more sensitive tech to the Japanese (who begged for the F-22) than the F-22.
They have the latest Aegis and Spy radars on their destroyers for example.



Well let me put it this way, u described the situation of a man leading to his decision to marriage and I described the aftermath of his decision , sort of.

Anyways ur correct regarding Political , OEM pressure etc etc

And I forgot to mention my usual " my personal opinion "
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by edon21: 2:34am On Jul 24, 2019
kikuyu1:
Btw,I notice many NA vehicles,soft skin even AFVs and MRAPs lack radios.





Imo,this basic mission enabler should be prioritised over Tucs,gunships and kinetic systems! In all the NA convoy pix I rarely see radio antennas. Every platoon,dismounted or not must be on call;forget the Leprechaun SINGCCARS and other Gucci kit restricted to SOFs: basic platoon level comms is compulsory.
bro cause you don't see antenna doesn't mean that they don't have means of communication. no army does that. stop comparing and find out facts
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 7:55am On Jul 24, 2019
edon21:

[b]bro cause you don't see antenna doesn't mean that they don't have means of communication. no army does tha[/b]t. stop comparing and find out facts

Ofc! Silly me! How then do they communicate?

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 8:13am On Jul 24, 2019
61mech,frumentius,patches869,jln115 and other Saffas,tell me smth. I was looking at your legacy Casspirs,my fav MRAP after the Marauder and was shocked! Under Project Sepula they and the Mambas were to be replaced with a new vehicle almost a decade ago!

Project Vistula will provide 579 9-ton 6x6 and 733 14-ton 8x8 tactical logistics vehicles (and potentially 5-ton 4x4 trucks) for multipurpose roles. The program was also sidelined in 2007, because none of the proposed vehicles fully met specifications. However, the delay was likely in part due to the lack of funding available from the SA Army.

Project Sepula will replace the Casspir and Mamba 4x4 armored personnel carriers (APCs). As many as 1,900 vehicles could be procured under this requirement, and a full-fledged family of vehicles is planned, including 4x4, 6x6, and 8x8 variants. [/b]The new family of vehicles would be built in South Africa (but not necessarily a South African design) and would have a significant off-the-shelf content of such major components as the engine and transmission.
https://www.forecastinternational.com/news/index.cfm?recno=233097

Obviously engineering and human resource aren't the issue since every Saffa and his neighbour design a brand new MRAP from scatch in their spare time as we've seen on these pages. Further googling showed a host of postponed and/or delayed projects,Hotel for a new Hydrographic survey ship,Metsie for new MPAs,Vistula for new trucks etc,etc.[b] RSA isn't Kenya or any other Africa country-you have the funds!
Funds aren't the issue-WHAT THE ACTUAL EFF!?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by 61mech: 12:27pm On Jul 24, 2019
Its about funds. All SANDF equipment procurement is being held up by this.
SANDF budged is mostly spent on a "officer heavy" salary burden. Its to a large extent been a retirement fund for former cadres from the liberation movement. I'm generalising here of course. There are many capable soldiers and officers from those ranks, but there are also a lot of unnecessary high ranking personnel that would have been retrenched if it was run like a business.
We have more generals per soldier than any other country I know of, because of this. The average age of a rifleman in the SANDF is also ridiculously high. Almost in the mid 30's. This situation will not change until there is major restructuring and forced retirements.

This leaves very little money left over for training an equipment. Fortunately the vehicles they do have were built for African conditions, so they can make them last to make up for this. Unfortunately the ones who suffer the consequences of this are the hard working and dedicated combat units who are actually doing the soldiering work.



kikuyu1:
61mech,frumentius,patches869,jln115 and other Saffas,tell me smth. I was looking at your legacy Casspirs,my fav MRAP after the Marauder and was shocked! Under Project Sepula they and the Mambas were to be replaced with a new vehicle almost a decade ago!


https://www.forecastinternational.com/news/index.cfm?recno=233097

Obviously engineering and human resource aren't the issue since every Saffa and his neighbour design a brand new MRAP from scatch in their spare time as we've seen on these pages. Further googling showed a host of postponed and/or delayed projects,Hotel for a new Hydrographic survey ship,Metsie for new MPAs,Vistula for new trucks etc,etc. RSA isn't Kenya or any other Africa country-you have the funds! Funds aren't the issue-WHAT THE ACTUAL EFF!?

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:27pm On Jul 24, 2019
kikuyu1:
61mech,frumentius,patches869,jln115 and other Saffas,tell me smth. I was looking at your legacy Casspirs,my fav MRAP after the Marauder and was shocked! Under Project Sepula they and the Mambas were to be replaced with a new vehicle almost a decade ago!


https://www.forecastinternational.com/news/index.cfm?recno=233097

Obviously engineering and human resource aren't the issue since every Saffa and his neighbour design a brand new MRAP from scatch in their spare time as we've seen on these pages. Further googling showed a host of postponed and/or delayed projects,Hotel for a new Hydrographic survey ship,Metsie for new MPAs,Vistula for new trucks etc,etc. RSA isn't Kenya or any other Africa country-you have the funds! Funds aren't the issue-WHAT THE ACTUAL EFF!?

RSA might not be Kenya, but we still broke bro!! no money=no weapons!

Also project Hotel and Project Biro(only the IPV requirement) have already commenced, thus not delayed anymore......As for the other....Well not much to say really!!
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MiddleDimension: 4:33pm On Jul 24, 2019
kikuyu1:
61mech,frumentius,patches869,jln115 and other Saffas,tell me smth. I was looking at your legacy Casspirs,my fav MRAP after the Marauder and was shocked! Under Project Sepula they and the Mambas were to be replaced with a new vehicle almost a decade ago!


https://www.forecastinternational.com/news/index.cfm?recno=233097

Obviously engineering and human resource aren't the issue since every Saffa and his neighbour design a brand new MRAP from scatch in their spare time as we've seen on these pages. Further googling showed a host of postponed and/or delayed projects,Hotel for a new Hydrographic survey ship,Metsie for new MPAs,Vistula for new trucks etc,etc. RSA isn't Kenya or any other Africa country-you have the funds! Funds aren't the issue-WHAT THE ACTUAL EFF!?


you mean not like Naija too?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 4:43pm On Jul 24, 2019
61mech:
Its about funds. All SANDF equipment procurement is being held up by this.
SANDF budged is mostly spent on a "officer heavy" salary burden. Its to a large extent been a retirement fund for former cadres from the liberation movement. I'm generalising here of course. There are many capable soldiers and officers from those ranks, but there are also a lot of unnecessary high ranking personnel that would have been retrenched if it was run like a business.
We have more generals per soldier than any other country I know of, because of this. The average age of a rifleman in the SANDF is also ridiculously high. Almost in the mid 30's. This situation will not change until there is major restructuring and forced retirements.

This leaves very little money left over for training an equipment. Fortunately the vehicles they do have were built for African conditions, so they can make them last to make up for this. Unfortunately the ones who suffer the consequences of this are the hard working and dedicated combat units who are actually doing the soldiering work.




Sometimes I think you guys forget with an average per capita GDP of 6300$,an experienced first world scientific, commercial and engineering cadre and a total budget resembling that of a second world country you can do better than spending some 4$bn for roughly 100K which is 1.5% of GDP. Imo,.the real issue,is the real string pullers,the faceless ones behind the scenes of your politics-THEY DON'T WANT A WELL EQUIPPED SANDF. These guys have their own plans for RSA which may even include balkanisation as a Western diplomat actually admitted to Eeben Barlow.

Good googly moogly! I heard smth similar a decade ago and dismissed it as anti ANC BS. The saddest thing is if you can't pull your weight you'll never meet your continental obligations leaving us all worse off.

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