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Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Pacesetter123(m): 3:28pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
Afamed:Wot happen in Zaria? So de senseless killing of Christians in southern kaduna by dis other group is also cause by Elzarzaky or shites? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Afamed: 3:28pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
donjahsy:Have you heard of reference in a court case. You often don't need to go to court especially when court has decided in a similar case. 1 Like |
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Afamed: 3:33pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
OlujobaSamuel:Lol He said the supreme Court has decided. He didn't say he decide. Truly supreme Court decided in the case of Asari vs FG .That National interest is above individual interest |
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by tuniski: 3:33pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
Afamed:You must go to court. It is only the court that will draw the precedence! |
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Afamed: 3:47pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
tuniski:The one drew by Asari vs FG was what? |
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by OlujobaSamuel: 3:58pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
Afamed:I know that there is a supreme court ruling on it, but it was case specific. What I'm saying is, how do we determine what is public interest? Is it base on charges, perception, court ruling, executive order etc. There is a case of Delta state governor taking someone's land under public interest and same was given to a cousin or relative of the governor, the SC upturned the ruling of the State high court that such act can't be classified as public interest. We don't have a clear cut rule on what constitutes public interest. 2 Likes |
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Uteghe(m): 4:08pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
tuniski:Which one has military marches and refuses to recognize authority? |
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by tuniski: 4:15pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
Uteghe:Boys scout,girls brigade,Man'O war, Yan ageji, the sharia police and the list goes on. It is debatable what you meant by refusing to recognize authority. The Shiites have a lot of short comings but, demonizing them is simply calling a dog a name so as to hang it! |
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by tuniski: 4:17pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
OlujobaSamuel:God bless you. |
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by tuniski: 4:20pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
Afamed:Was specifically for that case. Every case must be decided by the courts in context by its own merit. The executive can't just lock anybody up and by itself termed it public interest. That will be tyranny in full garb of impunity. 1 Like |
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Uteghe(m): 4:22pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
tuniski:Does man o war have a leader who preaches disobedience to authority? |
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by tuniski: 4:31pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
Uteghe:Stop cheery picking. Let the court decide on that. Some may even argue that Sharia is inconsistent with the Nigerian constitution. Leave the over flogged and rather lame talk of disobedience to the authority for the court. The continued detention of citizens whom have been granted bail,met bail conditions is simply persecution. |
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Diamondwriter(m): 4:39pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
Uteghe:So dis guy was running a parallel government? That's news to me o. Do you know what a parallel government means? 1 Like |
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Diamondwriter(m): 4:45pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
cronsberg: There's no patriot act in Nigeria, make no mistake. There was an light argument for it some time in 2015, but it didn't hold. Anything that resembles patriot act in Naija is an illegality. Our institutions are too fragile and do not yet understand the concept of independence, hence such act would be abused by whoever is in power. In America, the AG can build a case against the president, in Nigeria the AGF is under the president. Patriot acts cannot work effectively in this country at the moment 2 Likes |
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Diamondwriter(m): 4:47pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
Afamed:I wonder what and from where you are reading ur own things. |
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Uteghe(m): 4:55pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
tuniski:Court can't decide to free a terrorist. The order will be ignored. |
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Mujtahida: 5:24pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
Afamed:Cases are decided on a case by case basis notwithstanding the principle of judicial precedent. Has the Supreme Court said individual rights are subordinate to public interest in Zakzaky's case? The man has been granted bail. It's not the place of the government to begin to weigh whether to obey it or not. Arguments against granting the bail application must have been considered by the court when the application was made and yet the court decided to grant him bail. It's dangerous for the government to nit pick as far as obedience to court orders are concerned. Today it's Zakzaky that is bearing the brunt. Nobody knows who will be next. 2 Likes |
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by tuniski: 5:31pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
Uteghe:Who declared him a terrorist? What a shame. Even boko haram are getting pardoned and re-integrated into the society. Stop calling citizens terrorists cos you disagree where their faith. So the catholics can declare pentecostal terrorists and vice versa abi? |
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Mujtahida: 5:38pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
Afamed:There's a misconception in the bolded. It's not in the government's place to allow him bail conditions. All the government needs to do is to obey court orders granting him bail. The sanctity of the court's demand that whatever grouse you have against a judgment or order of court, your first obligation is to obey it even while you exercise your right to appeal and ventilate your grievances. Obasanjo disobeying court orders does not make it right. So can you decide to disobey court orders? You cannot even if you feel you have good reasons not to. So why should the government decide for whatever reason to disobey court orders? When I read Buhari saying no government can continue to endure repeated affront to constituted authority I laughed. So in his mind constituted authority consists only of the executive and its law enforcement agencies. What about the judiciary and the courts? Are those ones not constituted authority? Has he himself obeyed the constituted authority which the courts are? No. When Donald Trump made an order that immigrants should vacate the US without due process and the courts overturned the order, didn't he obey? Obedience to court orders is the basis for a civil society. To do otherwise is to set the stage for anarchy and chaos. Too bad that it is the government that has chosen to show the rest of society how to treat the courts with disdain. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Mujtahida: 5:58pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
Afamed:Please do not twist facts just to suit your position. He's been granted bail. Even Adesina said so on sunrise daily a day after the altercation but that the reason he was still being detained was because the FG had appealed the ruling of the court. (which is laughable and shows Adesina's ignorance of the law) Read here this current article on how FG disobeyed Court orders granting Dasuki and El Zakzaky bail https://www.pressreader.com/nigeria/thisday/20190721/282248077149977 1 Like |
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Mujtahida: 6:03pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
Afamed:It's either you are deliberately lying or you just plain ignorant. |
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Mujtahida: 6:11pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
Afamed:What kind of horseshit are you spewing with so much ignorant confidence? It's clear that you are out of your depths on matters like this but your pride and prejudice towards the government will not make you see truth even if it hits you with a sledge hammer. So if a person murdered someone and he's charged to court and after due process of law, he is convicted and sentenced to death that automatically means that when the police apprehends any other murderer, they need not charge him to court as per your logic. All they need do is to refer to the Supreme Court precedent and sentence the person to death? My God!! Animal in human skin so sang Fela 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Newboss(m): 6:15pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
Afamed: You're right |
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Uteghe(m): 7:26pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
tuniski:Catholics and Pentecostals recognize govt,they don't throw stones,burn public assets or kill during protest. Cry all you want. Elzakzaky is a goner. |
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by tuniski: 7:42pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
Uteghe:He will be freed! |
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by psucc(m): 8:01pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
Hassan080196:I am sure you are being sarcastic? If not, then you are not patriotic. There is a level at which we need to differ even with our parents in order to set the record straight. How many courts have not granted the duo bail? Instead of appealing the ruling of the lower court, the government goes to another court of coordinate jurisdiction and sometimes lower. Truth be told, I don't support any form of lawlessness but the government must not be more lawless than common criminals in the society 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by psucc(m): 8:04pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
Afamed:Did you read what you put up there? Too disappointing of an educated fellow! 1 Like |
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Deepthoughts: 9:25pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
jlinkd78:Thank you very much for this wonderful contribution, buhari/Apc generally believe they alone know best n their decisions should not be questioned no may how weird,so it now means only the APC government now can decide how the laws of the country should be applied!,,now with the daft of a cjn n band of zombie supporters Nigeria is in for suprises,in reality however buhari is just setting a very dangerous prescedence in the country all in the euphoria of his false n deceptive righteous belief but tommorow is pregnant only time shall tell. 1 Like |
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Deepthoughts: 9:30pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
Afamed:so who did the supreme court give the right n how to determine when where how national interest supercedes individual right?. 1 Like |
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by iswallker(m): 11:13pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
Afamed: So on what grounds are Shiite demanding his release... Are you in Nigeria at all... |
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Pacesetter123(m): 11:30pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
I really like this thread.See thought-provoking comments! Well articulated points by those speaking against and those in support.I think dis is the type of thread we need at dis critical time in our nation's history n not thread on how Tonto Dike bite Churchill or yeyebrities wearing bikini in de swimming pool exposing her boob. |
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by nameo: 11:25am On Jul 27, 2019 |
Mujtahida: Thank you. |
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