raphy:
Nigeria police should just leave them. they are teaching some Nigerians business with e,-waste.

imagine your shit someone from another country' see gold inside by drilling it .

these men see millions in what we don't see any value in it.

some white people have a good sense than a black guy.

i was at a betking and I was surprised when many white guys came and visit the Branch. snapping all the guys and staff inside.

they knows tht business I'd booming like jot cake in Nigeria CU's we love football.

when it is January , February now you will one of those complaining of heat....this is how it starts... Something that is illegal and having adverse environmental impact you are all supporting it....don't worry a time will come i will remain you of the blind support of illegality in this forum

hatu:
These guys should be allowed to do their business; let our Nigerians join them in the business if they can. Wettin our police sabi? Illegal e-waste ; they are helping you to clean up your dirty environment and by so doing, add some value to their life.

do you know the environmental impact it has in this country? If you dare complain of heat in January , February ,March next year, ....well i won't curse you but know you are part of those who abalted pollution in the country

frozen70:
There is nothing illegal there, just that they would have renewed their visas and get work permit

They will sort their way out

expired visa ?and nothing illegal ... Lot of you Nigerians are really disappointing....try this in USA and see your a..ss cooked by Trump...never you complain of heat again come January , February because these are the companies that cause it

Ajikawo1999:
I reason wit u bro

reason with his foolish statement? Illegal business by foreigners and you see nothing wrong?so supposing Chevron came in like these guys what will you say

BlackfireX:
Leave them joor , stop disturbing them

U no get sense, abi?

If na u Dem catch for China, doing this very kind of business ...plus, with an expired Visa... U think say Dem go leave u?

Donchukz:
Go and reside near their factory nah,within months,if cancer and other respiratory diseases no attack your body tissues eeeeehhh! E go remain small

So how come it’s not killing them who inside the factory everyday?
Not an expert in this field, but Nigerians dumping electronics/PCs in landfills are doing way more damage.
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Fourwinds:
reason with his foolish statement? Illegal business by foreigners and you see nothing wrong?so supposing Chevron came in like these guys what will you say

They can simply be fined and made to regularize their business...
Charged back taxes plus interest/penalties, while keeping jobs in Nigeria.
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NOL2dworld:
Illegal job.. A job they cant tell people about.. How does that help our economy..

It helps our economy by keeping them off the streets and under bridges looking for folks to rob...
The value of a job is NOT that you can brag to people about it, but you earn a living and develop skills.
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DameB:
You can imagine these ones o...
They came on a one month visa but refused to leave cos they've been enjoying Nigeria...To the extent of setting up a factory and polluting our environment....
Imagine a Nigerian telling that to Trump

idsamoo:

Young man,so because they are not immigration officers means they should leave these guys to live in our country illegally and still established factory that is detrimental to our health. If they can't come through the right channel to establish their factory and pay their tax legally, they deserve to be arrested.... Can you even try that in their country and go Scot free? That's why Nigeria can never move forward because of Terrible with terrible mindset like this!

Freedem:
You see , you are a slave. You don't want the citizens to enjoy their rights as full citizens but accept Chinese people destroying the environment on an illegal visa.

Please go and take an iq test
I'm sure your brain isn't bigger than that of a monkey

MaNyEsq:
I hope the authorities make an example out of these illegal aliens. Imagine, they are in the country illegally and committing illegal acts against the country...polluting the environment. What a country Nigeria is!

FManager:


Your a stupid pig , don't you know what harm that's stuff does to the environment, the factory they operate is illegal and they know about this, just imagine when Nigerians do the same in their country imagine the scrutiny, but they do it here and it's ok.

Fucking prick

Fourwinds:
it is not about them creating job but the impact the pollution has on the environment ... Don't just comment without weighing the magnitude of pollution on the environment

It appears so many commenters cannot distinguish between e-waste and e-waste recycling...

E-waste is what almost ALL Nigerians do - simply dump their used electronics/PCs in the bin or landfill...
E-waste RECYCLING is what these dudes are doing - collecting, sorting and recycling e-waste components.

What Nigerians do is HARMFUL to (and pollute) the environment...
What these guys are doing (if properly done) can be HELPFUL for the environment.
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9jaRealist:






It appears so many commenters cannot distinguish between e-waste and e-waste recycling...

E-waste is what almost ALL Nigerians do - simply dump their used electronics/PCs in the bin or landfill...
E-waste RECYCLING is what these dudes are doing - collecting, sorting and recycling e-waste components.

What Nigerians do is HARMFUL to (and pollute) the environment...
What these guys are doing (if properly done) can be HELPFUL for the environment.
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u have actually explained well but do you know that theirs is air pollution? Certain chemicals from the components of cell phones are released into the atmosphere when burnt

9jaRealist:


So how come it’s not killing them who inside the factory everyday?
Not an expert in this field, but Nigerians dumping electronics/PCs in landfills are doing way more damage.
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If a every body around that environment are subjected to medical test,what the laboratory technicians will discover from each and every one them will send shivers down your spine.

Every E-waist is a potential health hazard,electronic materials are a carrier of mercury,when they are been handled in an unprofessional ways,like what the Chinese expatriates just did and their likes,and in the process water washes them down our water bodies. The effect of it arises when we use the water domestically,for our food,when we drink it,considering that most people don't have potable drinking water,and the fishes are not left out,we consume them their by causing more harm to our body tissues,if a pregnant woman consumed mercury infested fishes,it affects the unborn child,leading to poor mental development,it can cause cancer etc.

Now,your question is,why are the workers not affected,have u thought of the gradual deposition of all this substances and its long term effects. Just google about mercury to educate yourself more. Thank u and do have a wonder day

9jaRealist:






It appears so many commenters cannot distinguish between e-waste and e-waste recycling...

E-waste is what almost ALL Nigerians do - simply dump their used electronics/PCs in the bin or landfill...
E-waste RECYCLING is what these dudes are doing - collecting, sorting and recycling e-waste components.

What Nigerians do is HARMFUL to (and pollute) the environment...
What these guys are doing (if properly done) can be HELPFUL for the environment.
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9jaRealist:






It appears so many commenters cannot distinguish between e-waste and e-waste recycling...

E-waste is what almost ALL Nigerians do - simply dump their used electronics/PCs in the bin or landfill...
E-waste RECYCLING is what these dudes are doing - collecting, sorting and recycling e-waste components.

What Nigerians do is HARMFUL to (and pollute) the environment...
What these guys are doing (if properly done) can be HELPFUL for the environment.

I know the difference between "e-waste" and "recycling e-waste" but just because "waste" has a prefix "Recycling" before it does not necessarily mean it's safer or good for the environment. I can understand you lauding their efforts in trying to recycle e-waste but the issue of recycling in Nigeria is fraught with problems. There are no safety laws implemented for e waste recycling. Lots of environmental issues are created in the process of disassembling of the electronic waste. There's [b]huge costs involved [/b]and is highly dangerous because they consists of the heavy metals, like Cathode Ray Tubes, Mercury, Lead, Chromium, Brominated Flame Retardants, Arsenic, Selenium, Cobalt etc.

With increase in substandard recycling factories means more pollution. Several gases are emitted during the recycling process like Methane, which is known to contribute to global warming and the ozone diminution if not managed properly and allowed to leak in the open. And judging by their operation, they had no intention of spending the money to make the process safe. Their main goal is to make as much money as they possibly can and could care less whther or not their process is safe for the enviroment. Just because it's called recycling does not always mean the process is safer than not recycling. So, all I am saying is that, sometimes you're better off leaving well enough alone!

Donchukz:
If a every body around that environment are subjected to medical test,what the laboratory technicians will discover from each and every one them will send shivers down your spine.

Every E-waist is a potential health hazard,electronic materials are a carrier of mercury,when they are been handled in an unprofessional ways,like what the Chinese expatriates just did and their likes,and in the process water washes them down our water bodies. The effect of it arises when we use the water domestically,for our food,when we drink it,considering that most people don't have potable drinking water,and the fishes are not left out,we consume them their by causing more harm to our body tissues,if a pregnant woman consumed mercury infested fishes,it affects the unborn child,leading to poor mental development,it can cause cancer etc.

Now,your question is,why are the workers not affected,have u thought of the gradual deposition of all this substances and its long term effects. Just google about mercury to educate yourself more. Thank u and do have a wonder day

First, you do NOT know (and btw neither do I) how the Chinese handle or treat the e-waste in this plant, so you are in no position to make the sorts of sweeping generalizations you are indulging in. Nonetheless, you cannot (at least not RATIONALLY) be arguing that what these dudes are doing is worse than the what the vast majority of Nigerians currently do with their e-waste, which is just discarding in the nearest bin, gutter, canal or landfill, and/or burning same. That’s what should be bothering everyone, not the xenophobic concept of foreign boogeymen.
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MaNyEsq:
I know the difference between "e-waste" and "recycling e-waste" but just because "waste" has a prefix "Recycling" before it does not necessarily mean it's safer or good for the environment. I can understand you lauding their efforts in trying to recycle e-waste but the issue of recycling in Nigeria is fraught with problems. There are no safety laws implemented for e waste recycling. Lots of environmental issues are created in the process of disassembling of the electronic waste. There's huge costs involved and is highly dangerous because they consists of the heavy metals, like Cathode Ray Tubes, Mercury, Lead, Chromium, Brominated Flame Retardants, Arsenic, Selenium, Cobalt etc.

With increase in substandard recycling factories means more pollution. Several gases are emitted during the recycling process like Methane, which is known to contribute to global warming and the ozone diminution if not managed properly and allowed to leak in the open. And judging by their operation, they had no intention of spending the money to make the process safe. Their main goal is to make as much money as they possibly can and could care less whther or not their process is safe for the enviroment. Just because it's called recycling does not always mean the process is safer than not recycling. So, all I am saying is that, sometimes you're better off leaving well enough alone!

You seemed to have completely missed my qualifier if properly done...
Of course almost anything not properly done can cause a lot more harm than good.

Since neither you nor I are privy to the operations of this particular plant...
You are NOW arguing on the ASSUMPTION (which you previously did not make) that it’s improperly run.
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9jaRealist:


You seemed to have completely missed my qualifier if properly done...
Of course almost anything not properly done can cause a lot more harm than good.

Since neither you nor I are privy to the operations of this particular plant...
You are NOW arguing on the ASSUMPTION (which you previously did not make) that it’s improperly run.
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If by your own admission, you are not privy to the conditions at the said facility, it is safe to say you made your initial comments based on ASSUMPTION as well!

[quote author=9jaRealist post=81048017]

You seemed to have completely missed my qualifier if properly done...
Of course almost anything not properly done can cause a lot more harm than good.

Since neither you nor I are privy to the operations of this particular plant...
You are NOW arguing on the ASSUMPTION (which you previously did not make) that it’s improperly run.
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Lagos police spokesman, Bala Elkana, said the men were arrested late Monday for allegedly operating an illegal e-waste factory said to be emitting toxic waste in the community. I guess you failed to read highlighted part of the article in your quest to show your lack of comprehension!

[quote author=9jaRealist post=81048017]

You seemed to have completely missed my qualifier if properly done...
Of course almost anything not properly done can cause a lot more harm than good.

Since neither you nor I are privy to the operations of this particular plant...
You are NOW arguing on the ASSUMPTION (which you previously did not make) that it’s improperly run.
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Lagos police spokesman, Bala Elkana, said the men were arrested late Monday for allegedly operating an illegal e-waste factory said to be emitting toxic waste in the community. I guess you failed to read the whole article without comprehension, so I highlighted part of the article that clearly stated why their action was illegal besides running and unlicensed factory. I hope you learn to read and comprehend before you start foaming at the mouth.

9jaRealist:


You seemed to have completely missed my qualifier if properly done...
Of course almost anything not properly done can cause a lot more harm than good.

Since neither you nor I are privy to the operations of this particular plant...
You are NOW arguing on the ASSUMPTION (which you previously did not make) that it’s improperly run.
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Lagos police spokesman, Bala Elkana, said the men were arrested late Monday for allegedly operating an illegal e-waste factory said to be [b]emitting toxic waste [/b]in the community. I guess you failed to read the whole article with comprehension, so I highlighted part of the article that clearly stated why their action was illegal besides running and unlicensed factory. I hope you learn to read and comprehend before you start foaming at the mouth.

MaNyEsq:
If by your own admission, you are not privy to the conditions at the said facility, it is safe to say you made your initial comments based on ASSUMPTION as well!

It’s not a “assumption” to say that “if properly done”. That’s just FACTUAL...
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MaNyEsq:
Lagos police spokesman, Bala Elkana, said the men were arrested late Monday for allegedly operating an illegal e-waste factory said to be emitting toxic waste in the community. I guess you failed to read the whole article with comprehension, so I highlighted part of the article that clearly stated why their action was illegal besides running and unlicensed factory. I hope you learn to read and comprehend before you start foaming at the mouth.

I think you highlighted the WRONG part of the sentence - “said” by whom? Scientists? Policemen?!
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9jaRealist:


It’s not a “assumption” to say that “if properly done”. That’s just FACTUAL...
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There should have been no reason for your qualifier "if properly done" when the article clearly stated that their operation was emitting toxic fumes. Any reasonable person who read the article would understand that their operation was not following the best practices. So, I just did not get your point unless you read the article with lack of comprehension.

MaNyEsq:
There should have been no reason for your qualifier "if properly done" when the article clearly stated that their operation was emitting toxic fumes. Any reasonable person who read the article would understand that their operation was not following the best practices. So, I just did not get your point unless you read the article with lack of comprehension.

I decline to engage in childish personal insults/attacks...
But hopefully you were standing in front of a mirror when you wrote the highlighted.

I wrote verbatim: “[w]hat these guys are doing (if properly done) can be HELPFUL to the environment” (all emphasis original). I neither assumed nor asserted that they were operating properly, and in fact the statement is not necessarily limited to these two dudes, but actually stands on its as FACTUALLY correct.
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9jaRealist:


I think you highlighted the WRONG part of the sentence - “said” by whom? Scientists? Policemen?!
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I guess we are getting into the silly season here. Yea, we need a scientist to tell the residents of the area or the cops who arrested them that the fumes that the factory was emitting is toxic or not just like you need a scientist to tell you that the fumes spewing out from cooking with coal is toxic. And besides, if your initial comment was based on the same article that I and every other person read including you, then your comment was headed in the wrong direction and totally out of place.

MaNyEsq:
There should have been no reason for your qualifier "if properly done" when the article clearly stated that their operation was emitting toxic fumes. Any reasonable person who read the article would understand that their operation was not following the best practices. So, I just did not get your point unless you read the article with lack of comprehension.

Sorry bro, but with all due respect, nothing could be more nebulous as “said to be”...
Said to be by whom? Scientists? The reporter? The local police constable? The neighborhood agbero?
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MaNyEsq:
I guess we are getting into the silly season here. Yea, we need a scientist to tell the residents of the area or the cops who arrested them that the fumes that the factory was emitting is toxic or not just like you need a scientist to tell you that the fumes spewing out from cooking with coal is toxic. And besides, if your initial comment was based on the same article that I and every other person read including you, then your comment was headed in the wrong direction and totally out of place.

Yes, you do...
Noxious and toxic are not synonymous. SMDH
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[quote author=9jaRealist post=81048563]

I decline to engage in childish personal insults/attacks...
But hopefully you were standing in front of a mirror when you wrote the highlighted.

I wrote verbatim: “[w]hat these guys are doing (if properly done) can be HELPFUL to the environment” (all emphasis original). I neither assumed nor asserted that they were operating properly, and in fact the statement is not necessarily limited to these two dudes, but actually stands on its as FACTUALLY correct.
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Well, if you cant stand the heat, do not enage in personal attacks.

9jaRealist:


Yes, you do...
Noxious and toxic are not synonymous. SMDH
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I guess you have put the cherry on the cake. May be you need to learn your words.

MaNyEsq:
Well, if you cant stand the heat, do not enage in personal attacks.

Never did, never will...
Will concede such childishness to the likes of you. Cheers.
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9jaRealist:


Never did, never will...
Will concede such childishness to the likes of you. Cheers.
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It seems you're dumber than you sound!

MaNyEsq:
I guess you have put the cherry on the cake. May be you need to learn your words.

Or perhaps you just need to learn your science...
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MaNyEsq:
It seems you're dumber than you sound!

The gutter of personal insults remains all yours. Enjoy it...
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