otherway:


Better go and marry and stop fooling yourself upandan.

and then your likes complain that people marry without being financially stable to take care of their Children & send them out to hawk or leave them to starve.

I mentioned a lot of variables that can lead one into masturbation & economic conditions is one of them.

so Porter a better solution than calling me a fool

stanliwise:
Your judgement of a situation isn't a yardstick of what is a sin to God. Feeling guilty out of ignorance or been naive is your own cross to carry. I understand the part where we were told not to do things if our mind is against it, but it was talking about personal choice and not a decision we preach to others, if you can't eat meat don't preach to other to stop meat, it is a personal choice the like. Also lying being a sin is a complicated matter, Not telling someone the truth is not just the sin but what effect has the action caused?. If I lie to a hired killer about the location of his victim, would I say "NO, it wasn't necessary"? Did our parent not lie to us that when you pick food on the floor that devil has eaten it? We were also told if we eat orange seeds it will grow in our belly. But the reason was just for us to not pick things on the floor or eat seed of orange. So the choice is yours.
My advise is you should try to understand the scriptures better.

The motive behind the action is why i feel guilty. When i lie, my motive is to gain something with cunny way.

otherway:


Don't mind them.

Deluded and ignorant people Every where.

Only porn induced masturbation is a sin but masturbation in itself is a habit like every other and not a sin. It is the addiction that must be checked.

That is why many pastors commit adultery and fornication cos they bottle up sexual urge that will latter explode on them rather than easing off the tension through self service.

My only advise is for people to exercise self control over it cos of its addictiveness or get married as Paul advised cos it's better than burningwith passion...but it is not a sin in anyway.

I mentioned a lot of variables that can induce one to masturbating.
and let it be between you & God if engaging in such an immoral isn't deemed immoral. if formication, theft (because you are hungry), defiling a child isn't sin I guess you need to go back & study the word.

stealing out of hunger, committing adultery for money or masturbating out of the desire to satisfy orgie what will you call it ?
the adulterous woman in bible caught in the act may have engaged in the act because she needed money but the Christ say what her act wasn't sinful ?
He said that her sins have been forgiven even though there was a genuine reason to do what she did.


I have said my piece

CAPSLOCKED:
WE HAVE BIGGER PROBLEMS IN NIGERIA LIKE KIDNAPPERS, HERDSMEN, POVERTY, HUNGER AND SICKNESSES.

IF YOU WERE EVEN SLIGHTLY SENSIBLE YOU WILL FOCUS ON PROVIDING THE SO CALLED SPIRITUAL WEAPONS TO DEFEAT THOSE. THAT YOU FOCUS ON HARMLESS, UNIMPORTANT MASTURBATĮON SHOWS HOW CROOKED YOUR LIFE IS AS A CHRISTIAN.

those bigger problems started within us, its said in
order to change your environment you start by
changing yourself & bad habits.
Coza pastor was accused of rape & everyone
started attacking not only him but pastors as
problems in the society.
little abnormal things we do matter because we
can carry it out on a larger scene..
how will you feel when a senator puts a bill for
homosexuality ?
your foolish mockery is amazing.

nairalanduseles:
Masturbation is good and healthy ............the only problem is when religion tries to make u feel guilty ........Am married and I masturbate and I love every moment of it........my wife masturbates too and we have a very healthy sex life....

for real

KvngEric:


You are quite correct. But i don't look to the bible to tell me if its a sin or not. I look within myself, if i feel guilty after doing it, its a sin, if i cannot proudly do it infront of everyone i know, its a sin. If i keep thinking about it while feeling bad, its a sin. I believe the conscience is the best indicator of sin. I have been lying so much that I'm beginning to think its not a sin but the thing is that each time i lie, i ask myself, was it worth it? The answer is always no.

That's wrong, just cos you cannot do it publicly does not make it a SIn, if you are married can you sleep with your wife in public?
There is such word as mental slavery this is when you are being groomed to think in a certain kind of way that makes you believe or changes ur belief as to regards self-indulgence. Never ever think masturbation is a sin, however, if you feel bad after doing it then this is acceptable as your own belief but when you add religion to it then it becomes toxic, remove religion from it and deal with is as your own personal belief!

stanliwise:
Another misinformation, masturbation is not a ain anywhere in the Bible. Simple understanding of the human system would make OP understand why he masturbate and simple psychology would help him understand why he was addicted to it. But instead OP decided to spiritualize it and cast and bind.
Typical behaviour or an africa man.

I remember saying that masturbation can be caused by a lot of things especially having high libido ..I acknowledged biological drives.
I only shared an experience.. not making anything up, am open minded to listen to what others say

if you knew any better, you would know that the spirit also controls the physical.
thanks for your comment

seunmohmoh:
I shouldn't be on this thread.

I was told you love mastubation a lot, definitely the thread is for you.

Please don't leave!

NPComplete:
Your pastors have not been able to overcome sleeping with other people's wives and lying through their teeth every Sunday. Yet u think something like masturbation requires heavenly song to stop right? Lol

when you don't understanding heavenly things
when you don't acknowledge the influence of the spirit realm over the world..

you can mock it the way you want.
people like you remind me of the Jews that laughed & mocked Jeremiah when he preached & prophesied to them. because they never understand.

I see now why Christ was finding it difficult to enlighten a lot of people, even in earthly explanation they couldn't understand.


if singing brought down the walls of Jericho or chases away demons that tormented Saul. what else do you think it cannot not do ?..

food for thought

Inteltower:



when you don't understanding heavenly things
when you don't acknowledge the influence of the spirit realm over the world..

you can mock it the way you want.
people like you remind me of the Jews that laughed & mocked Jeremiah when he preached & prophesied to them. because they never understand.

I see now why Christ was finding it difficult to enlighten a lot of people, even in earthly explanation they couldn't understand.


if singing brought down the walls of Jericho or chases away demons that tormented Saul. what else do you think it cannot not do ?..

food for thought

So people like me remind u of fairytales, right? Singing only brought down the wall of Jericho in your imagination. Stop peddling fiction as fact.

Inteltower:



those bigger problems started within us, its said in order to change your environment you start by changing yourself & bad habits.
Coza pastor was accused of rape & everyone started attacking not only him but pastors as problems in the society.
little abnormal things we do matter because we can carry it out on a larger scene..
how will you feel when a senator puts a bill for homosexuality ?
your foolish mockery is amazing.

And who told you coza pastor raped the lady,do you have the evidence or video coverage when the rape ensued?

I'm into medical line,there is many health benefits of mastubation,google and educate yourself HOWEVER,it also has its own detriment when abused....

Lets focus on making this country like dubai,china and japan instead of focusing on flimsy issues like mastubation

[quote author=jendhorlee post=81147617][/quote]instead of masturbating why not get yourself a good female friend or get married

bamidbamid:
Pls consult that same holy spirit to reveal to us the solution to Nigeria's numerous problems instead of petty things.

The worlds problems ever since fall of man were there to be. its increase is in by those who have failed to know themselves, conditioned by their environment & deceptive intelligence. its decrease is by those who chose to be a solution & light out there, who know their capabilities & limitations, who invited God in for intervention, etc..

start with yourself & ask that question

Kingsley10000:
instead of masturbating why not get yourself a good female friend or get married

it's a personal decision not to have sex until i get married, meanwhile, I'm just 24

Lilknight:
Well the way it worked for me was self promise and believe. It was almost New year's eve so I used the remaining days of 2014 to masturbate to stupor and I had already made a promise that this coming 2015 I will never go close to masturbation. At the beginning of January I'd get tempted but I knew once I start masturbating again it will take me to wait till another year for a New Yr resolution so I just sticked to my self promise and before I knew it January was off and the urge started reducing in me so I became resistant to the temptation.

nice

NPComplete:


So people like me remind u of fairytales, right? Singing only brought down the wall of Jericho in your imagination. Stop peddling fiction as fact.

it only proves that you are an unbeliever..& its your blind belief.. if you can't look at yourself in a mirror & appreciate the intelligible complexities of your nature then I pray you be saved.

if you like make reference to big bang theory or Darwinism..
intelligence isn't matter

jendhorlee:
masturbation ain't a sin, it's a natural way to relieve urself of sexual urge and it doesn't have any negative effect on ur body

about feeling guilt after the act, well, i don't fucking understand why you'll be feeling ashamed after masturbation, i masturbate very well and I've never ever felt any guilt or ashamed of it, and doesn't ask for forgiveness too (I'm a Christian) cos i don't see it as a sin

i remember the first time i ever masturbated in secondary school, i didn't know wat i did was called masturbation, I've never watched or heard abt it b4, it just happened, that's to tell you it's natural

with masturbation, u can have sex with a lot of girls, celebrities over and over again till you're tired, even ....... .. I'm not even saying anything again, na u sabi

there is a difference between knowingly practicing masturbation & subconsciously doing it because your sexual urge wanted to.

between the two which is biologically natural & outright self practise

Inteltower:


and then your likes complain that people marry without being financially stable to take care of their Children & send them out to hawk or leave them to starve.

I mentioned a lot of variables that can lead one into masturbation & economic conditions is one of them.

so Porter a better solution than calling me a fool

Bro abeg free me.

Masturbation is addictive so I'm happy for anyone who can subdue the urge but what I don't like is people giving a dog bad name cos they don't like it.

Masturbation is a habit that can be beneficial for some and detrimental for some depending on their indulgence but please don't let people give up their salvation because of your unfounded heretic teachings calling it a sin.

Sexual desire is normal and healthy and infact GOD created it in us and if masturbation is a sin the bible will never be silent about "what could take billions of people to hell" according to the heresy flying about.

That is my point.

jendhorlee:


it's a personal decision not to have sex until i get married, meanwhile, I'm just 24

you're ripe for marriage.At 24 are you still calling yourself a kid

Kingsley10000:
And who told you coza pastor raped the lady,do you have the evidence or video coverage when the rape ensued?

I'm into medical line,there is many health benefits of mastubation,google and educate yourself HOWEVER,it also has its own detriment when abused....

Lets focus on making this country like dubai,china and japan instead of focusing on flimsy issues like mastubation

medical line indeed.. & you can't read what I wrote.. I said accused of being raped.
what majorly made Nigeria this underdeveloped was corruption; embezzlement, theft, etc. the people who perpetuated the act how did you think they started ?
before stealing as big their hands could grab.

little problems are seeds planted that grow into big problems (big trees)

so reason logically

Inteltower:



there is a difference between knowingly practicing masturbation & subconsciously doing it because your sexual urge wanted to.

between the two which is biologically natural & outright self practise

well, after i subconsciously practiced it the first time and i felt good, i started doing it anytime i feel like

Kingsley10000:
you're ripe for marriage.At 24 are you still calling yourself a kid

lol, i know but I'm not even through with school yet and you're also aware of Nigeria's situation. marriage is the last thing on my mind. I'm not even thinking abt a girlfriend or fiancée, just good on my own 4 now

If you are trapped in any sexual immortality and you are feelings guilty and you want to break loose from this stronghold of demonic powers, then look no further because God is able to give you deliverance and total victory. Jesus was made manifested in our lives that he might destroy the work of the devil
If you are interested in getting book on how to overcome pornography/ mastubation, how to overcome sexual urge/temptation and subdue sexual urge, for both male/ female, then WhatsApp me on zero eight one six nine two eight three zero eight two
Remain bless

Inteltower:



there is a difference between knowingly practicing masturbation & subconsciously doing it because your sexual urge wanted to.

between the two which is biologically natural & outright self practise

Bros I will advise you avoid masturbation cos if you do it then you will be commiting a sin..WHY? Because you see it as a sin .

◄ Romans 14:23 ►

New Living Translation
But if you have doubts about whether or not you should eat something, you are sinning if you go ahead and do it. For you are not following your convictions. If you do anything you believe is not right, you are sinning.

erico2k2:

That's wrong, just cos you cannot do it publicly does not make it a SIn, if you are married can you sleep with your wife in public?
There is such word as mental slavery this is when you are being groomed to think in a certain kind of way that makes you believe or changes ur belief as to regards self-indulgence. Never ever think masturbation is a sin, however, if you feel bad after doing it then this is acceptable as your own belief but when you add religion to it then it becomes toxic, remove religion from it and deal with is as your own personal belief!

I cannot have sex with my wife in public but i sure can brag about having sex with my wife in different positions , tell my in laws that their daughter is sweet. I cannot, however talk about my masturbation feats, how many times i masturbate in a day, that will be wrong.

And the devil is a liar and a deceiver, don't let him use you. The devil will convince you that its not a sin. I would rather believe its a sin and avoid it and be saved than to believe that its not a sin and keep doing it then die and go to hell . Just saying.

otherway:


Bro abeg free me.

Masturbation is addictive so I'm happy for anyone who can subdue the urge but what I don't like is people giving a dog bad name cos they don't like it.

Masturbation is a habit that can be beneficial for some and detrimental for some depending on their indulgence but please don't let people give up their salvation because of your unfounded heretic teachings calling it a sin.

Sexual desire is normal and healthy and infact GOD created it in us and if masturbation is a sin the bible will never be silent about "what could take billions of people to hell" according to the heresy flying about.

That is my point.

I never said Sexual desires was wrong, its natural & I acknowledged that. masturbation on the other hand is abnormal.
the man in the bible that was having sex with a woman & when wanting to cum spewed it on the ground so not to get the woman pregnant.. what later happened ?

God struck him dead.

its one thing to have a sexual urge and another thing to know how best to control it or satisfy it.
it is only with a woman & not via masturbation.

KvngEric:


I cannot have sex with my wife in public but i sure can brag about having sex with my wife in different possible, tell me in laws that their daughter is sweet. I cannot however talk about my masturbation feats, how many times i masturbate in a day, that will be wrong.

yes, you can, as a matter of fact, you just manage to tell the whole Nigeria that you masturbate. Its all good how you feel but just don't add religion to this, it has nothing to do with it!

Inteltower:


I never said Sexual desires was wrong, its natural & I acknowledged that. masturbation on the other hand is abnormal.
the man in the man that was having sex with a woman & when wanting to cum spewed it on the ground so not to get the woman pregnant.. what later happened ?

God struck him dead.

its one thing to have a sexual urge and another thing to know how best to control it or satisfy it.
it is only with a woman & via masturbation.

can you give us the passage, please??

otherway:


Bros I will advise you avoid masturbation cos if you do it then you will be commiting a sin..WHY? Because you see it as a sin .

◄ Romans 14:23 ►

New Living Translation
But if you have doubts about whether or not you should eat something, you are sinning if you go ahead and do it. For you are not following your convictions. If you do anything you believe is not right, you are sinning.

Bross this is subject to your own interpretation which I think is way out of line to this subject. Things you eat and things you throw out are in two different contexts. Masturbation is not food and does not involve anything going inside the human body so I suggest you use a different narrative or something close,I'm waiting!

otherway:


Bro abeg free me.

Masturbation is addictive so I'm happy for anyone who can subdue the urge but what I don't like is people giving a dog bad name cos they don't like it.

Masturbation is a habit that can be beneficial for some and detrimental for some depending on their indulgence but please don't let people give up their salvation because of your unfounded heretic teachings calling it a sin.

Sexual desire is normal and healthy and infact GOD created it in us and if masturbation is a sin the bible will never be silent about "what could take billions of people to hell" according to the heresy flying about.

That is my point.

exactly nah this kind yeye thought nah make people begin circumcise girls in Africa mtcheeee

erico2k2:
can you give us the passage, please??

the passage concerning the sin of Onan (Genesis 38:9-10, RSV):

Kingsley10000:
And who told you coza pastor raped the lady,do you have the evidence or video coverage when the rape ensued?

I'm into medical line,there is many health benefits of mastubation,google and educate yourself HOWEVER,it also has its own detriment when abused....

Lets focus on making this country like dubai,china and japan instead of focusing on flimsy issues like mastubation

You mention many health benefit of masturbation and I will give you many destructive effect of masturbation, both physical and spiritual.
As a medical practitioner, I don't expect you to be saying this trash considering the fact that masturbation induce more damages to the human body than the benefit.
How do you feel when you forcefully jerk out sperm from ur body, and you keep on jerking it out even if the urge is no more there
You will need approximately 21 days for ur body hormonal system to come back to normal. If you are married, you will totally loss sexual appetite, there will be low sperm count and eatery sperm, if you have normal sex with it wife, thre will be quick ejavulation, constant urination, fatigue and lot more, these are just the physical destructive effect and there are still many more, if I began to mention the spiritual effect you will not believe it. Do you know that each time u masturbate, you are actuality sleeping with demons, giving them ur sperms. Just stay and wait until your life is destroyed beyond recognition