erico2k2:

yes, you can, as a matter of fact, you just manage to tell the whole Nigeria that you masturbate. Its all good how you feel but just don't add religion to this, it has nothing to do with it!

Inteltower:


the passage concerning the sin of Onan
(Genesis 38:9-10, RSV):

KvngEric:


Its honestly been fun arguing with u. But you NEED to learn to read between the lines. I'm talking about it in shame as something i will love to change. I'm sharing with i do to avoid thinking about it. I'm never proud of it.

But if i was married to your sis, i would definitely be telling u about how we do it in d oza room and i would be very fuckin proud of it when i say it.

Peace out!

erico2k2:

This is the problem of religion in Afric, we tend to interpret the bible to suit our desire not stating the obvious to waht it meant,
Read that passage very well, the person in question was sleeping with his brother;s wife,he knew that if she gets pregnant the child would not be his so for this reason he decided to pour it on the floor.he got punished now tell me was he punished for putting his sperm on the floor or for sleeping with his brother's wife?
Genesis 38:9-10 New International Version (NIV)

9 But Onan knew that the child would not be his; so whenever he slept with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother. 10 What he did was wicked in the Lord’s sight; so the Lord put him to death also.

CAPSLOCKED:
WE HAVE BIGGER PROBLEMS IN NIGERIA LIKE KIDNAPPERS, HERDSMEN, POVERTY, HUNGER AND SICKNESSES.

IF YOU WERE EVEN SLIGHTLY SENSIBLE YOU WILL FOCUS ON PROVIDING THE SO CALLED SPIRITUAL WEAPONS TO DEFEAT THOSE. THAT YOU FOCUS ON HARMLESS, UNIMPORTANT MASTURBATĮON SHOWS HOW CROOKED YOUR LIFE IS AS A CHRISTIAN.

Inteltower:


so what was the difference really & which did the Lord considered wicked ?
was it the sleeping of his brothers wife (which is a tradition in Israel) or the wasting of sperm on the floor just to avoid her getting pregnant


mind you his brother was dead & as their custom the following brother will take in his late brothers wife as his.

So if God considered wasting sperm as wicked how much more masturbation.
those that have sex with women insisted of jerking of inside her will deliberately spew it all over her body how will God take that ?

consciously wasting seeds (sperms) is like having no value of its use in you & equating it to ordinary urine which we consider as waste

erico2k2:

Bross this is subject to your own interpretation which I think is way out of line to this subject. Things you eat and things you throw out are in two different contexts. Masturbation is not food and does not involve anything going inside the human body so I suggest you use a different narrative or something close,I'm waiting!

otherway:


Olodo..go back and read the concluding phrase.

erico2k2:

The reason God punished him was the fact he was sleeping with his brother's wife and not letting her have kids since it was waht his brother desires, so he was just enjoying himself, this has nothing to do with pouring his sperm on the floor. This topic has been thought in well-established bible class in Ireland cos of their abortion laws etc it was asked.If not God would have punished for both not just pouring his seed on the floor as that is irrelevant.My dear African be wise!
PS.I agree it was a practice in Isreal, but did you notice the intention??

shogsman:
Masturbation is healthy, so don't be ridiculous, infact I'm about to masturbate now.

generalwo:
...... May God forgive u..... How is Nigeria's problem any worse than an individual who masturbates.....

Fuckyoumod:
oga that's your fuvking, problem.
Let the problem of Nigeria continue to be on your head.

Everybody and their problem.

CAPSLOCKED:



YOU CAN IMAGINE THIS PERSON WHO THINKS MASTURBATĮON IS WORSE THAN POVERTY, THUGGERY, MASSACRE, ACCIDENTS, ETC.

MOST OF YOU ARE LUNATICS BUT YOU DON'T KNOW IT.

Inteltower:


I understand your point, I missed that & the intention was wrong but will wasting those seeds by him also be counted right in God's sight ?
because people by their justification are equating wasting sperm through masturbation like urinating.

Inteltower:


masturbation can influence people to rape, defile children, behave abnormally around people..
so you will ignore this because it isn't a major problem.. then you are the lunatic

Chrisus:


And how many of the aforementioned issues have you tackled personally?

erico2k2:

I wont agree with you on thsi one cos its like showing justification for rape.If masturbation is a quick fix for sexual urge then you can go to a hotel to sort yourself out!. This will put you at per with those in a certain school of thought that away a girl is dressed makes her subject to rape!

Inteltower:


am not justifying rape..there are a lot of reasons that make me people involve themselves in rape..& masturbating is one of them.
.little things like anger if unchecked can make someone killing someone else. anger towards government can make a group of people to carry arms & take to a life of arm robbery.

my point is something abnormal can graduate into something else

erico2k2:

Thank you for understanding that. Oh yes, it was wrong, the only reason for it to be allowed was when it was impossible to bear a child by her husband. The primary reason he was allowed to bleep the bross wife was to bear child,.Equating this to someone masturbating and wasting sperm is wrong and Religious leaders who preach these are not well educated or are just being mischievous!

erico2k2:

OK, but let me also remind you what is evil is evil, there is no justification, Rape is rape, there is no such phrase in law as to the reason why rape was carried out hence you can never use rape as punishment but you can use death!

Inteltower:



the scenerio in that verse tells us not only did Onan didn't want to impregnate his brothers wife but wanted to satisfy his sexual urge..& wasted his sperm on the floor as a result of the pleasure he had.

there are two three things here, 1) the intention 2) the sexual urge 3) the cumming.

removing number 1 by the side. what is the difference between him & a masturbator.
because remember committing adultery doesn't only happen by physical Union between two people as Christ taught us that lusting after her in your heart also means you have done it with her at heart which is what goes on during masturbation (how do you avoid that ?)

one masturbating has no physical partner next to him but lusts in his mind just like On an wants pleasure & then wastes his sperm


pls in that act is it a sin or not according to what Christ clearly stated ?

Inteltower:



you are digressing... really
going back to what lead to this veering off..
I was pointing to the fact that little abnormal or immoral things can be factors that lead to big problems we have in society today

CAPSLOCKED:
WE HAVE BIGGER PROBLEMS IN NIGERIA LIKE KIDNAPPERS, HERDSMEN, POVERTY, HUNGER AND SICKNESSES.

IF YOU WERE EVEN SLIGHTLY SENSIBLE YOU WILL FOCUS ON PROVIDING THE SO CALLED SPIRITUAL WEAPONS TO DEFEAT THOSE.

THAT YOU FOCUS ON HARMLESS, UNIMPORTANT MASTURBATĮON INSTEAD OF OTHER CRITICAL SITUATIONS IN NIGERIA SHOWS HOW YOUR LIFE LACKS DIRECTION AS A CHRISTIAN.

Lilknight:
Well the way it worked for me was self promise and believe. It was almost New year's eve so I used the remaining days of 2014 to masturbate to stupor and I had already made a promise that this coming 2015 I will never go close to masturbation. At the beginning of January I'd get tempted but I knew once I start masturbating again it will take me to wait till another year for a New Yr resolution so I just sticked to my self promise and before I knew it January was off and the urge started reducing in me so I became resistant to the temptation.

jendhorlee:
masturbation ain't a sin, it's a natural way to relieve urself of sexual urge and it doesn't have any negative effect on ur body

about feeling guilt after the act, well, i don't fucking understand why you'll be feeling ashamed after masturbation, i masturbate very well and I've never ever felt any guilt or ashamed of it, and doesn't ask for forgiveness too (I'm a Christian) cos i don't see it as a sin

i remember the first time i ever masturbated in secondary school, i didn't know wat i did was called masturbation, I've never watched or heard abt it b4, it just happened, that's to tell you it's natural

with masturbation, u can have sex with a lot of girls, celebrities over and over again till you're tired, even ....... .. I'm not even saying anything again, na u sabi

KvngEric:
Ewu, we will all die. But when we die a sinner, you have died d worst death. Lets fight for eternal salvation cos we obviously cannot fight all u mentioned above and even If you do fight them, you'd still die. Fight for your soul, this world isn't supposed to be a utopia, no be heaven them call am, na earth.

OP, i concur, i have had d same experience on multiple occasions. Singing praises help overcome it. But one thing that makes me never think of it for days is keeping busy, moving around and doing something, once i sit down and relax, it will start creeping up.

Sirheny007:

Till date,
I never see the kind gospel song wey go liquidate konji

Inteltower:



it only proves that you are an unbeliever..& its your blind belief.. if you can't look at yourself in a mirror & appreciate the intelligible complexities of your nature then I pray you be saved.

if you like make reference to big bang theory or Darwinism..
intelligence isn't matter