I recently moved to a popular north American country where everyone in naija seems to be migrating to these days. I decided to get a preowned car, and since I had used 3 toyotas that have served me well in Nigeria I decided to try to get a 08-12 Corolla. To my shock the prices for corollas of these years was equal or more than prices for later years of other car brands. In fact, unlike cars like Nissans,Chevrolets ,VWs where prices seriously depreciate with high mileage, high mileage Toyota brands are still more Expensive than most other brands. I used to think it was just the Nigerian bandwagon effect that made used toyotas more expensive

So to my conclusion, it's not just about having bad roads in Nigeria, or the careless nature of Nigeiran car owners, nor the cluelessness of our kazeems,...

There actually might be something special about the Toyota brand. Maybe it's that rest of mind that it gives you knowing you won't get stranded anytime or anywhere or it's just their branding techniques that has been so successful. If you have any other opinion, please share.

I have stated the primary reason for that before and it comes down to resale value.
Most of Africa buys used Toyota.
Since I here is a huge export marker for Toyota,
People in the US will buy a car they can resell used without losing a lot of money compared to a Chevy Cruze that will stay on the American market.

The third world can afford a used Corolla or Camry but a Land Cruiser is in another class where it is Toyota but sells far less than the American competition on the continent. Those who buy it are not looking at the resale value as the main reason for purchase.
In the last ten years Africans are buying fewer 4runner and you will see a drop in volume sold compared to the competition or the cheaper Highlander.

Leave story jare, its not about African market or what not, its about reliability. I will comfortably buy a corolla or Camry with 200,000miles cos I know it will still serve its purpose. I can't do same for a ford, Chevy or even a Benz. The number of those cars sold as new despite their high prices speaks volume.

sultaan:
I have stated the primary reason for that before and it comes down to resale value.
Most of Africa buys used Toyota.
Since I here is a huge export marker for Toyota,
People in the US will buy a car they can resell used without losing a lot of money compared to a Chevy Cruze that will stay on the American market.

The third world can afford a used Corolla or Camry but a Land Cruiser is in another class where it is Toyota but sells far less than the American competition on the continent. Those who but it are not looking at the resale value as the main reason for purchase.
In the last ten years Africans are buying fewer 4runner and you will see a drop in volume sold compared to the competition or the cheaper Highlander.

Honestly, i have noticed your balderdash comments on Car Talk section for sometime now. I do not comprehend your silly rants at all. Toyota is the most reliable auto brand in the world dude. Deal with it!

There are two car makers in the world Toyota and others. No long talk

Homguy:
I recently moved to a popular north American country where everyone in naija seems to be migrating to these days. I decided to get a preowned car, and since I had used 3 toyotas that have served me well in Nigeria I decided to try to get a 08-12 Corolla. To my shock the prices for corollas of these years was equal or more than prices for later years of other car brands. In fact, unlike cars like Nissans,Chevrolets ,VWs where prices seriously depreciate with high mileage, high mileage Toyota brands are still more Expensive than most other brands. I used to think it was just the Nigerian bandwagon effect that made used toyotas more expensive

So to my conclusion, it's not just about having bad roads in Nigeria, or the careless nature of Nigeiran car owners, nor the cluelessness of our kazeems,...

There actually might be something special about the Toyota brand. Maybe it's that rest of mind that it gives you knowing you won't get stranded anytime or anywhere or it's just their branding techniques that has been so successful. If you have any other opinion, please share.

it was never cheap in Nigeria, we just have a dumpsite of fake parts in Nigeria and we think they are cheap, funny enough, these fake parts are the killers on the road, ie fake brake pads!

OfficialSam:



Honestly, i have noticed your balderdash comments on Car Talk section for sometime now. I do not comprehend your silly rants at all. Toyota is the most reliable auto brand in the world dude. Deal with it!

And you believe what you just said, what part of Toyota do you think is stronger than other brands ie VW and BMW

vivalaurel:
Leave story jare, its not about African market or what not, its about reliability. I will comfortably buy a corolla or Camry with 200,000miles cos I know it will still serve its purpose. I can't do same for a ford, Chevy or even a Benz. The number of those cars sold as new despite their high prices speaks volume.

Bross the Oldest cars on Earth are the Merc!
Ask yourself this question, how many Toyota turns up at the classic shows.Toyota more than 200k miles is dead compared to an Audi and a BMW

OfficialSam:



Honestly, i have noticed your balderdash comments on Car Talk section for sometime now. I do not comprehend your silly rants at all. Toyota is the most reliable auto brand in the world dude. Deal with it!

Getting used to darkness doesn't mean we all live in darkness.
We all have our preference and financial difference. If anyone has money sitting in the bank, the last thing they consider is the fuel economy and reliability of a Corolla/Camry. $25k car market is huge but not the only market. I want you to pick any model year of a Toyota and compare depreciation to a Jeep Wrangler or Subaru maybe you will understand that some cars are hot in the used market and Africa influenced Corolla and Camry is n big way

nobody on nairaland can win the war against toyota

dont even bother

toyota crew and these guys below,no difference

That satchet water "moves market" more than bottled water doesn't make satchet water better than bottled water.
To everyman, his desires.
Some of us can never be caught in a Toyota.There is no Toyota sedan that can be classified as a driver's car.
Motor wey be say if you fire pass 140km/hr,e go be like airplane wey wan take off.
Lots of Benz flat booth,V booth whose production ended in d 80s are still on d road.
How many Toyotas of that age still dey road by now?

doky0loye:
That satchet water "moves market" more than bottled water doesn't make satchet water better than bottled water.
To everyman, his desires.
Some of can never be caught in a Toyota.There is no Toyota sedan that can be classified as a driver's car.pp7[b][/b]
Motor wey be say if you fire pass 140km/hr,e go be like airplane wey wan take off.
Lots of Benz flat booth,V booth whose production ended in d 80s are still on d road.
How many Toyotas of that age still dey road by now?

one more fool and his foolish opinion

please stay away from Toyota

Toyota would never be caught near you as well

sultaan:


Getting used to darkness doesn't mean we all live in darkness.
We all have our preference and financial difference. If anyone has money sitting in the bank, the last thing they consider is the fuel economy and reliability of a Corolla/Camry. $25k car market is huge but not the only market. I want you to pick any model year of a Toyota and compare depreciation to a Jeep Wrangler or Subaru maybe you will understand that some cars are hot in the used market and Africa influenced Corolla and Camry is n big way

Sincerely i don't understand your points at all.

Every auto brand has its fuel efficient and economy models. Honda has Civic and City; Nissan has Primera & Almera; Hyundai has Elantra & Accent, likewise the rest of the auto brands.
Hence, your emphasis on Corolla & Camry is baseless and inconsequential.

Lastly, talking about the craze over Corolla & Camry serving as preferences for not too financially buoyant folks. Don't also forget there are other models of Toyota (or Lexus) that will give you a run for your money. Please i will advice that, the next time you argue, don't be overshadowed by sentiments. Enough said, let me respond to the BMW dude; hope he owns one and not just a bragger.

Toyota gang
Obekediamondfuto come & add points

erico2k2:

And you believe what you just said, what part of Toyota do you think is stronger than other brands ie VW and BMW

What do you mean by 'stronger'? But if what you are insinuating is durability and reliability. I'm sorry to burst your bubbles; Toyota beats your Volkswagen & BMW hands down. The lack of expertise for your prefered brands should tell you that.

Anyways, i hope you even own one. I'm tired of braggers on Nairaland Auto & Car talk section.

faceless forum and its wahala

oga eriko2k2,u get time o

dem say u nor get bicycle

should we tell them?

thebigkendo:
Toyota gang
Obekediamondfuto come & add points

no need na,
aunty radu posted a link sometime ago, no time for digging...
the link was about Toyota and reliability....

so no need, I'm not the only one that thinks that way sha, so no issues there....

and it's not just a Nigerian thing as well

sultaan:
I have stated the primary reason for that before and it comes down to resale value.
Most of Africa buys used Toyota.
Since I here is a huge export marker for Toyota,
People in the US will buy a car they can resell used without losing a lot of money compared to a Chevy Cruze that will stay on the American market.

The third world can afford a used Corolla or Camry but a Land Cruiser is in another class where it is Toyota but sells far less than the American competition on the continent. Those who buy it are not looking at the resale value as the main reason for purchase.
In the last ten years Africans are buying fewer 4runner and you will see a drop in volume sold compared to the competition or the cheaper Highlander.

well, I get your point, sir. But Toyotas would have very low resale value if they weren't reliable. So we Africans won't even buy them of Americans if they weren't reliable or able to take plenty abuse. So its definitely deeper than resale value I think

Satchet water sell pass bottle water

Bottle water sell pass Evian Sparkling water.

Bottle water/Satchet water sell pass bottle of Wine.


When it comes to 'sales value', Satchet water get am.



Ergo, Satchet Water is very reliable and is the best.



Educated people argument on Nairaland
.

OfficialSam:


What do you mean by 'stronger'? But if what you are insinuating is durability and reliability. I'm sorry to burst your bubbles; Toyota beats your Volkswagen & BMW hands down. The lack of expertise for your prefered brands should tell you that.

Anyways, i hope you even own one. I'm tired of braggers on Nairaland Auto & Car talk section.

I asked a simple question, ie durability.No need throwing ur dummy out of the pram yet, teh vast majority of you on here have never ever bought any of these brands brand new so how do you pass judgment beats me,you buy a 10-year-old car that has min 100k miles on it and start talking about durability. You are here talking about lack of Mechanics, mayB you live in one village, wake UP there are good mechanics everywhere, you just need to spend money cos these cars do not come with easy fix and they do not brake down often,.If you are talking of those toyota sold in 9ja as brand new that loses alignnment in 10 days of sale then Im done

AshipaEk0:
Satchet water sell pass bottle water

Bottle water sell pass Evian Sparkling water.

Bottle water/Satchet water sell pass bottle of Wine.


When it comes to 'sales value', Satchet water get am.



Ergo, Satchet Water is very reliable and is the best.



Educated people argument on Nairaland
.

Wow this is very good,I am thrilled by this analogy, let me add cos sachets water is easier to produce you have less bottled water factory and NL people saysy you have more sachet water producers so it must be better!

Homguy:
well, I get your point, sir. But Toyotas would have very low resale value if they weren't reliable. So we Africans won't even buy them of Americans if they weren't reliable or able to take plenty abuse. So its definitely deeper than resale value I think

The resale value is not often linked to Americans but its export value. You are almost guaranteed you will sell your Toyota to an exporter as whole or parts!

diportivo:
faceless forum and its wahala

oga eriko2k2,u get time o

dem say u nor get bicycle

should we tell them?

My brother the thing no tire you and sometimes mayB my motor tyre go buy thier full motor sef dat nah if dem get
it is well with us, me I dey holiday so no work, so I get time

antagonist:


one more fool and his foolish opinion

please stay away from Toyota

Toyota would never be caught near you as well

Why call him a fool？Its his own opinion bro, lets learn to be civil

erico2k2:

I asked a simple question, ie durability.No need throwing ur dummy out of the pram yet, teh vast majority of you on here have never ever bought any of these brands brand new so how do you pass judgment beats me,you buy a 10-year-old car that has min 100k miles on it and start talking about durability. You are here talking about lack of Mechanics, mayB you live in one village, wake UP there are good mechanics everywhere, you just need to spend money cos these cars do not come with easy fix and they do not brake down often,.If you are talking of those toyota sold in 9ja as brand new that loses alignnment in 10 days of sale then Im done

Just hear yourself. You sound confused, so you are the dummy here. Let me school you a bit. Durability is used to qualify a car, and not strength or being 'stronger' as you implied.

I don't understand why folks who are not fans of Toyota will always bash and abuse others for their choices. Always claiming that Toyota fans are broke, as if it's easy to own a car in this hell called a country. I know of a few wealthy folks that owns flirt of cars that are all Toyota/Lexus models, and would not buy your German machines for peanuts. It's not about being financially buoyant or not. It is just a choice. Most families have various brands, but will still own at least a Camry or Corolla as their back up plan. Some people have issues trusting other brands because their first car served them well, hence they rather continue purchasing it till the end of time. It's called peace of mind.

OfficialSam:



Just hear yourself. You sound confused, so you are the dummy here. Let me school you a bit. Durability is used to qualify a car, and not strength or being 'stronger' as you implied.

I don't understand why folks who are not fans of Toyota will always bash and abuse others for their choices. Always claiming that Toyota fans are broke, as if it's easy to own a car in this hell called a country. I know of a few wealthy folks that owns flirt of cars that are all Toyota/Lexus models, and would not buy your German machines for peanuts. It's not about being financially buoyant or not. It is just a choice. Most families have various brands, but will still own at least a Camry or Corolla as their back up plan. Some people have issues trusting other brands because their first car served them well, hence they rather continue purchasing it till the end of time.

my friend make we hear word with you N400k Toyota, we nor go hear word again, small thing you go, insult people, as if say nah you get mouth pass with your cheap skills. That car corolla is shyte I know it,you know it n everyone knows it.U dey here dey brag about toyota corolla 4 that matter we nor go hear word, the real toyota people online dey here dey mind their business unto say dem know wetin dey but Oh no you with your N400 k toyota for your full street dey make noise here.Look learn to respect your elders take your time B4 the crew join

erico2k2:

my friend make we hear word with you N400k toyota, we nor go hear word again, small thing you go, insult people, as if say nah you get mouth pass with your cheap skills. That car corolla is shyte I know you know everyone knows it.U dey here dey brag about toyota corolla 4 that matter we nor go hear word, the real toyota people online dey here dey mind their business unto say dem know wetin dey but Oh no you with your N400 k toyota for your full street dey make noise here.Look learn to respect your elders take your time B4 the crew join

To add, you do not need to own one to talk about it!I started talking about BMWs,Audis and Range Land rovers when I was 12 years old!

erico2k2:

my friend make we hear word with you N400k toyota, we nor go hear word again, small thing you go, insult people, as if say nah you get mouth pass with your cheap skills. That car corolla is shyte I know you know everyone knows it.U dey here dey brag about toyota corolla 4 that matter we nor go hear word, the real toyota people online dey here dey mind their business unto say dem know wetin dey but Oh no you with your N400 k toyota for your full street dey make noise here.Look learn to respect your elders take your time B4 the crew join

idiot like you

of course that is the next thing, call your so called group of non entities with empty heads and loud mouths to be professional ass lickers and zombies

have sense, no, you prefer to be parading your stupidity around like a clown cap

yes, you managed to get a range rover and ship and convert, no problem, please stay with your wonderful range rover and Benz and what not, and leave Toyota alone

fool

you and all of your followers and gang are just useless drums of condemned oil

erico2k2:

my friend make we hear word with you N400k toyota, we nor go hear word again, small thing you go, insult people, as if say nah you get mouth pass with your cheap skills. That car corolla is shyte I know you know everyone knows it.U dey here dey brag about toyota corolla 4 that matter we nor go hear word, the real toyota people online dey here dey mind their business unto say dem know wetin dey but Oh no you with your N400 k toyota for your full street dey make noise here.Look learn to respect your elders take your time B4 the crew join

Grow up kid.

antagonist:


idiot like you

of course that is the next thing, call your so called group of non entities with empty heads and loud mouths to be professional ass lickers and zombies

have sense, no, you prefer to be parading your stupidity around like a clown cap

yes, you managed to get a range rover and ship and convert, no problem, please stay with your wonderful range rover and Benz and what not, and leave Toyota alone

fool

you and all of your followers and gang are just useless drums of condemned oil

[b]Awwww cry me a rive[/b]r bross nor be me do you nahh, Enjoy your N400k motor stop insulting people cos people get N50m car on Nairaland dem nor dey go about insulting people so be humble! PNF abi nah wetin dem dey call am!
I will advice you to save all that anger with the people you are fighting to get pension monies from!

OfficialSam:



Just hear yourself. You sound confused, so you are the dummy here. Let me school you a bit. Durability is used to qualify a car, and not strength or being 'stronger' as you implied.

I don't understand why folks who are not fans of Toyota will always bash and abuse others for their choices. Always claiming that Toyota fans are broke, as if it's easy to own a car in this hell called a country. I know of a few wealthy folks that owns flirt of cars that are all Toyota/Lexus models, and would not buy your German machines for peanuts. It's not about being financially buoyant or not. It is just a choice. Most families have various brands, but will still own at least a Camry or Corolla as their back up plan. Some people have issues trusting other brands because their first car served them well, hence they rather continue purchasing it till the end of time. It's called peace of mind.

bros, by now you should have known that there are some people in this section you should not even bother doing arguments, they are a bunch of loud talking empty headed people always trying to force their opinion on others

we all know which cars are reliable and which cars are not

we all know which cars we will choose if we were stranded in the desert with only fuel and we had to choose a car to cross

so please dont give yourself headache

antagonist:


one more fool and his foolish opinion

please stay away from Toyota

Toyota would never be caught near you as well

Daddy,I just gave an opinion,did not abuse anybody, yet you call me a fool?
Abeg,no be me be Buhari wey spoil Nigeria
May you find peace in Jesus mighty name.Amen