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Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by Siralgebra04(m): 9:25am On Aug 16, 2019
blindjustice13:
because they are terrorists.simple

All what ur brain is programed on is 'Terorrism'. That is all u can reason. Everything to u is terrorism.
Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by MikkySexy23(m): 9:25am On Aug 16, 2019
I trust the Israelis...A Muslim in Jerusalem,that cannot ever happen!!!!! I like governments that make their stance known not minding whose ox is gored..Let everyone mind their post now, abi
Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by Neminc: 9:25am On Aug 16, 2019
MachadoPreto:


You buy words from politicians a lot. Have you seen a Bush, Clinton or Obama use that word? Trump used it to win people like you. Same trump campaigned about "Jews won't take our jobs"

As for the religious card I was enlightening you about, I just made it clear to you outside topic so you know where and how to play it when you are involved in discussions so you don't believe general assertions.

America's core values are inclined with what mere humans can't see. You only here them tell you "In God we trust" but their actions will tell you is not the same God you believe. Nothing inclines them to religion. Not even a crucifix.

Like I said, it's an insult to the United states that it's diplomat was denied entry into a country where America funds with billions of dollars yearly.

And if it might interest you, part of those billions come from the taxpayers of the constituents this individuals preside over. Am I making sense? It's an insult to the USA.

It's even glaring Israel won't do it if Trump did not push for it. Netanyahu does not have a heart of his own in this matter. Trump did all and he bought it.
Trump campaigned about "Jews won't take our jobs"? You are a blatant liar!! I have been going through your posts on this thread and all you're doing is using blatant lies to back up your anti Trump arguments. Can you please provide any link to where Trump ever said "Jews won't take our jobs' or campaigned with it? You must think you are talking to ignorant people on this forum for you to be spouting this rubbish here.

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Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by kopfschmerzen: 9:26am On Aug 16, 2019
nnokwa042:
are from Palestine ?your country men are living in IDP camps all over the country you don't care about that but you want to show love to your fellow in Muslim in palestine,African muslim brainwashed by the Arabs that only need them during the time of jihad

You bonehead!!! I'm not a Nigerian and i don't even live in your hellhole. Plus i don't belong to any organize religion. I'm a Santeria adherent plus i loathe both the shitty Israel and Saudi in equal measure.

Get a working brain son.
Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by ttmacoy: 9:28am On Aug 16, 2019
Yes they were planning to go.
topysean247:
like they're making attempt to go there
Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by kopfschmerzen: 9:28am On Aug 16, 2019
Neminc:

LIAR!!!!!

Then how did this change after just Trump tweets? You are allergic to common sense.
Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by TheUnseenFela: 9:30am On Aug 16, 2019
ZodwaWabantu:
What's she going to Israel to do?

She should be visiting countries like Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia, Syria, Bangladesh etc

She is disgracing the US government


And you are disgracing your family, think of your family before you think of government that does not know about your existence

Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by blindjustice13(m): 9:31am On Aug 16, 2019
Siralgebra04:


All what ur brain is programed on is 'Terorrism'. That is all u can reason. Everything to u is terrorism.
o and read what those women have said about Israel you will know they don't have good of Israel at heart.lets stop being sentimental, those women donot wish well for Israel and they openly support terrorists so they too are terrorists.

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Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by MachadoPreto: 9:31am On Aug 16, 2019
Neminc:

Yet again I must stress, they are not diplomats!!! Stop lying and Israel has every right to ban them from coming into their country if all they do is promote the BDS to destroy Israel's economy and support Hamas terrorists. BTW you also buy words from the fake news media a lot

Have you looked up the word diplomat from a dictionary? I will leave you with that.

Stop exergerating please. Nobody supported Hamas and demanded a boycott without reasons for such boycott which is all about the Palestine.

Fake news media or what ever you call it. Every information on the web against Trump is fake news.

He even said yesterday that the crash in DOW was as a result of the media grin. Dude forgot he is in a war with a world power with strong and long tentacles.

Layer at night, he said he will meet with Chinese President on way forward. Is that fake news too? Trump will mislead you. He is just like Jonathan. He shoots himself in the leg.

Wanted to take out mental health care, and after shooting, said he will be spending more on mental health care. You just need to give him time, he will throw a bomb in his own pocket.
Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by Neminc: 9:31am On Aug 16, 2019
kopfschmerzen:


Then how did this change after just Trump tweets? You are allergic to common sense.
Who is talking about Trump's tweets? I was only countering your lie that Rashida Tlaib was banned from visiting her grandma

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Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by LordPsalm(m): 9:32am On Aug 16, 2019
MicroBox:

Trump is going back abi.. Nigerian youth contributing!
Trump insulting diplomats around the world, calling other country leaders foolish is the real deal abi
Is your president not FOOLISH? Answer me.
I mean Buhari
Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by kopfschmerzen: 9:34am On Aug 16, 2019
degamemaster:


Mr/Mrs decent idiot, she knows that ancestors lives in the West bank and Gaza yet she chose to be attacking Israel with her hatred and toxic ideology. Those two are nothing but Muslim terrorists trying so hard to widen the scope of Islam and terrorism all over the place but Trump's wiser. If you don't like the decision of Israel, go and beat their president.

You just sprout toilet standard garbage, I'm not surprise you come from the world poverty capital. Y'all ain't blessed with functioning IQ, the crap you just spewed is akin to the rambling of a mad man undergoing exorcism.
Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by Cantonese: 9:34am On Aug 16, 2019
MachadoPreto:


You buy words from politicians a lot. Have you seen a Bush, Clinton or Obama use that word? Trump used it to win people like you. Same trump campaigned about "Jews won't take our jobs"

As for the religious card I was enlightening you about, I just made it clear to you outside topic so you know where and how to play it when you are involved in discussions so you don't believe general assertions.

America's core values are inclined with what mere humans can't see. You only here them tell you "In God we trust" but their actions will tell you is not the same God you believe. Nothing inclines them to religion. Not even a crucifix.

Like I said, it's an insult to the United states that it's diplomat was denied entry into a country where America funds with billions of dollars yearly.

And if it might interest you, part of those billions come from the taxpayers of the constituents this individuals preside over. Am I making sense? It's an insult to the USA.

It's even glaring Israel won't do it if Trump did not push for it. Netanyahu does not have a heart of his own in this matter. Trump did all and he bought it.

But you have not told me how to separate religion from politics.

I am not a Trump supporter. I think that you must eliminate sentiments from your talk bro.

Remember that all presidents cannot be the same. When Trump got there he said “America first”. Very clear. Our president said “ I am for everybody, I am for nobody”. Very unclear. You can see the difference with Trump making it possible to protect his country and interests. That is why his popularity soars daily among pure Americans black or white.

You need to be reminded that Israel has a defense pact with Israel. That’s what empowers Israel to carry on. Why does Israel posses nuclear capabilities while middle eastern nations do not possess it and they are not allowed to? The American seat of power is full of Americans of Jewish descent. Now tell me how does Netanyahu need Trump to command him before he does what will protect Israel as a nation and the Jewish international interests?

American have not been insulted in anyway. Rather the two ladies have persistently been insulted and the middle eastern interest that they pursue in the American House of Representatives is insulted.

When someone says ‘in God I trust’, who does he refer to? Abeg now bros. Which kind wahala be this?

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Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by TheUnseenFela: 9:34am On Aug 16, 2019
Cosmatikka:
Shattap. Buhari's supporters hating on Trump for no reason. Trump is the best thing to have happened to the US since 1990. U should be happy he deported that your uncle that doesn't come back.

Werey you think because you are louding support for someone who doesn't know about your existence, you would be given visa to the U.S yeye they smell

Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by Nobody: 9:35am On Aug 16, 2019
MachadoPreto:



A robust economy Trump was baosting about all along grin

Let China finish with them. US farmers are already in pains despite Baik out. If Trump did not softpedal last week, it would have been a different story this week.

Read what analyst are saying, Trump is fighting for 2020, China is fighting for the future. They diversifying trade so the status quo does not repeat itself. Even after the trade war ends, China has gone far in buffering.
soft-pedal? a new set of sanction are going into effect on September 1st. what Trump did was to delay implementation of sanctions in the tech,toys and some other sectors to enable US firm prepare.

the Chinese economy is feeling it more. their economy growth has been stagnant while America own has continued growing.
as long as the US dollar remain the most widely accepted currency, America will always be at an advantage
Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by kopfschmerzen: 9:35am On Aug 16, 2019
Neminc:

Who is talking about Trump's tweets? I was only countering your lie that Rashida Tlaib was banned from visiting her grandma

You slowpoke go and read her tweet in response to the ban. And stop talking trash man.

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Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by descartes400: 9:36am On Aug 16, 2019
Cantonese:


Hahahahaha. May I ask how you can remove religion from politics?
What separates a Christian from a Jew?
If America is not a Christian country then which religion is practiced there? How many times have you heard “we are Christians” and “we believe in Jesus”? Is there any doubt about the religion practiced in Indonesia, Pakistan, the Middle East (except Israel). Why must the religious inclinations of Christian countries be a thing of dispute? Even in our country, inspite of our struggles to keep it going we know areas that are purely Muslim and Christian, across the north and south.
You have not mentioned one Muslim country where you have either a Christian or even a pagan holding an office from the least to the highest.

Once again to your point. In diplomacy countries have reasons for denying entry to citizens of other countries irrespective of rank and status. Recently in Nigeria we were informed that certain persons who aided and abetted in election rigging would not be allowed into the USA. Who lost sleep diplomatically? Is this the first that you have heard of countries expelling diplomats from other nations?

You talked about the ladies as diplomatically representing the people and not me. They have said that in their foreign affairs oversight functions they are supposed to visit nations. Equity demands clean hands. Politics is about interest but it is also about decorum.
Remember the proverb “do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river”. They forgot their words and now they try to make the Israelis look like the wrongdoers? Sorry bro no way.

More so mind you that the ladies are not diplomats. They were not appointed as diplomats but members of the House of Representatives. That they go to Israel on their oversight functions does not single them out as diplomats. They report to the House of Representatives and the House follows up with government.

Well said.
Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by MachadoPreto: 9:37am On Aug 16, 2019
Neminc:

Trump campaigned about "Jews won't take our jobs"? You are a blatant liar!! I have been going through your posts on this thread and all you're doing is using blatant lies to back up your anti Trump arguments. Can you please provide any link to where Trump ever said "Jews won't take our jobs' or campaigned with it? You must think you are talking to ignorant people on this forum for you to be spouting this rubbish here.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/08/14/jews-will-not-replace-us-why-white-supremacists-go-after-jews/

That's Washington Post. Read if you don't call it fake news. He is a white supremacist and never gave any comment about outburst and even smiled to it.
Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by Merimental(m): 9:40am On Aug 16, 2019
Cosmatikka:
Shattap. Buhari's supporters hating on Trump for no reason. Trump is the best thing to have happened to the US since 1990. U should be happy he deported that your uncle that doesn't come back.

spot on. i wish i could vote d next POTUS 4rm here. i will triple vote Trump to continue d good works he's doing. #Trumpence2020
Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by Zubi10(m): 9:41am On Aug 16, 2019
[quote author=kingemzy5 post=81298716](CNN) Israel announced Thursday it was barring the entry of two Democratic US congresswomen after Donald Trump encouraged the move, a remarkable step both by the US President and his ally, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, to punish political opponents.

Deputy Foreign Minister Tzipi Hotovely told CNN on Thursday of Israel's decision to ban Reps. Rashida Tlaib of Michigan and Ilhan Omar of Minnesota from entering the country. The announcement came shortly after Trump said Israel would be showing "great weakness" by allowing them to enter the country.

"The plan of the two Congresswomen is only to damage Israel and to foment against Israel," Netanyahu said in a statement following the decision.


The intervention by Trump into Israel's decision-making was extraordinary enough. But the move by Netanyahu's government lent the longstanding US-Israel alliance a new partisan tinge and opened the door for fresh criticism.

Rashida Tlaib: 'I'm not going nowhere, not until I impeach this President'
Rashida Tlaib: 'I'm not going nowhere, not until I impeach this President'
Omar responded to the decision Thursday by calling it "an affront" and "an insult to democratic values."

"It is an affront that Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, under pressure from President Trump, would deny entry to representatives of the U.S. government," Omar said in a statement. "Trump's Muslim ban is what Israel is implementing, this time against two duly elected Members of Congress."

Omar went on to say, "As a member of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, it is my job to conduct oversight of foreign aid from the United States of America and to legislate on human rights practices around the world. The irony of the 'only democracy' in the Middle East making such a decision is that it is both an insult to democratic values and a chilling response to a visit by government officials from an allied nation."

Trump's history feuding with the congresswomen
Trump has criticized the two lawmakers -- who are the first two Muslim women elected to Congress -- in harsh and sometimes racist terms. But his move to call for their ban in Israel reflects a new chapter in his grudge and a further erosion of presidential norms, which in the past sought to avoid instilling partisanship in foreign affairs.

In considering the ban, Israel cited the congresswomen's support for a boycott against Israel.

"The State of Israel respects the American Congress in the framework of the close alliance between the two countries, but it is unthinkable that an entry to Israel would be allowed to those who seek to damage the State of Israel, even during a visit," said Interior Minister Aryeh Deri in a statement. Under Israeli law, the interior minister is the one authorized to make a decision on barring entry.

Deri said he made the decision with the support of Netanyahu and other Israeli officials.

US Ambassador to Israel David Friedman said the US "supports and respects" Israel's decision to deny entry to Tlaib and Omar.

"This trip, pure and simple, is nothing more than an effort to fuel the (boycott movement) engine that Congresswomen Tlaib and Omar so vigorously support," Friedman said in a statement released Thursday evening.

Slamming the boycott movement as "economic warfare designed to delegitimize and ultimately destroy the Jewish State," Friedman defended Israel's right to deny entry to those who support a boycott of the country.


Israel's decision to deny entry to the two freshmen congresswomen amounted to a reversal of a position taken last month when Israeli Ambassador to the United States Ron Dermer said the two would be allowed to visit Israel and the Palestinian territories.

"Out of respect for the U.S. Congress and the great alliance between Israel and America, we would not deny entry to any member of Congress into Israel," Dermer said at the time in widely reported comments. Dermer is considered one of those closest to Netanyahu.

Democratic outrage
The move was met with a swift backlash from Democratic congressional lawmakers, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California, who said in a statement she was "deeply saddened" by the news.

"Israel's denial of entry to Congresswomen Tlaib and Omar is a sign of weakness, and beneath the dignity of the great State of Israel," Pelosi said. "The President's statements about the Congresswomen are a sign of ignorance and disrespect, and beneath the dignity of the Office of the President.". I know nairalanders are full of support when majority of them are Christians....
Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by MachadoPreto: 9:42am On Aug 16, 2019
Mk12:

soft-pedal? a new set of sanction are going into effect on September 1st. what Trump did was to delay implementation of sanctions in the tech,toys and some other sectors to enable US firm prepare.

the Chinese economy is feeling it more. their economy growth has been stagnant while America own has continued growing.
as long as the US dollar remain the most widely accepted currency, America will always be at an advantage

He can't try it.. September what? grin

Don't believe it please. I am 100% sure he won't go for it.

America that has started staring at recession? You talking of a China here. Even Trumps Macy's is 80% China
Ivanka's collections are made in China. The campaign caps and shirts you see are all China. What point am I raising here, China has eaten deep into America today that even if it pulls out and faces the brunt, America will too face it heavily.

And you know the edge China has, it's trade relations and diversity is top notch.

Trump not thinking about average consumers. He stands for the rich. If he does, he won't go into a trade war with China.
Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by Neminc: 9:42am On Aug 16, 2019
MachadoPreto:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/08/14/jews-will-not-replace-us-why-white-supremacists-go-after-jews/

That's Washington Post. Read if you don't call it fake news. He is a white supremacist and never gave any comment about outburst and even smiled to it.
You said he campaigned with it, I said show me where he campaigned with it or where he ever made such a comment now you are bringing me a story on what some other people said. Show me where Trump said it or campaigned with it. And BTW, Trump is not a white supremacist, that's another thing you will have to show us where he has ever campaigned for the supremacy of the white race over others. I will be waiting

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Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by Neminc: 9:53am On Aug 16, 2019
MachadoPreto post=8[quote author=MachadoPreto:


Have you looked up the word diplomat from a dictionary? I will leave you with that.

Stop exergerating please. Nobody supported Hamas and demanded a boycott without reasons for such boycott which is all about the Palestine.

Fake news media or what ever you call it. Every information on the web against Trump is fake news.

He even said yesterday that the crash in DOW was as a result of the media grin. Dude forgot he is in a war with a world power with strong and long tentacles.

Layer at night, he said he will meet with Chinese President on way forward. Is that fake news too? Trump will mislead you. He is just like Jonathan. He shoots himself in the leg.

Wanted to take out mental health care, and after shooting, said he will be spending more on mental health care. You just need to give him time, he will throw a bomb in his own pocket.

Diplomat;
A diplomat (from Ancient Greek: δίπλωμα; romanized diploma) is a person appointed by a State or an intergovernamental institution such as the United Nations or the European Union to conduct diplomacy with one or more other States or international organizations.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki

The US government has never appointed those two clowns to conduct any diplomacy on their behalf so they are no diplomats and you saying that I exaggerated what I said about them just shows that you are drunk on the fake news media propaganda. Those two clowns support hamas whose stated aim is the eradication of Israel, they both Pushed the BDS campaign to strangulate Israel's economy . Those two idiots are anti Israel and antisemitic to the core yet you want Israel to welcome them with open arms?

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Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by Neminc: 9:54am On Aug 16, 2019
kopfschmerzen:


You slowpoke go and read her tweet in response to the ban. And stop talking trash man.
She lied just like you are doing now, she was just gas lighting her low information followers. I just posted you a shot from the official twitter handle of the Israeli Prime minister saying she is free to apply for a visit to her grandma if she wants. So you are both lying if you say she was banned from visiting her grandma because she wasn't

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Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by fx45(m): 9:54am On Aug 16, 2019
MachadoPreto:


You buy words from politicians a lot. Have you seen a Bush, Clinton or Obama use that word? Trump used it to win people like you. Same trump campaigned about "Jews won't take our jobs"

As for the religious card I was enlightening you about, I just made it clear to you outside topic so you know where and how to play it when you are involved in discussions so you don't believe general assertions.

America's core values are inclined with what mere humans can't see. You only here them tell you "In God we trust" but their actions will tell you is not the same God you believe. Nothing inclines them to religion. Not even a crucifix.

Like I said, it's an insult to the United states that it's diplomat was denied entry into a country where America funds with billions of dollars yearly.

And if it might interest you, part of those billions come from the taxpayers of the constituents this individuals preside over. Am I making sense? It's an insult to the USA.

It's even glaring Israel won't do it if Trump did not push for it. Netanyahu does not have a heart of his own in this matter. Trump did all and he bought it.
You seem to be in very sifia pains. You hate Christianity, You hate Trump, you hate Israel, you hate America... Yet you do not want to go and live in your Saudi Arabia and Iran

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Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by olajizz01(m): 9:54am On Aug 16, 2019
blindjustice13:
lol. What is my business with you sunnis or shittes business,what is my business if your allah brothers decide to kill themselves because they don't want western education? Instead of this nonsense you are spewing,you better face your northern elites who are sponsoring bokoharam with the help of Saudi arabia. Lol. Na my rejocing dey pain you as if i am the bomber or the sponsor. undecided
Hahahaha.............Saudi,the strong ally of USA/Isreal, that means USA/Isreal are among the financiers of book haram as people insinuated.
Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by asanwafo: 9:55am On Aug 16, 2019
ugo4u:
Trust me those women ain't going back to the Congress not with the growing conservative US populace. Instead of them to face their work they were busy bashing Israel not knowing that the same Israel controls the political arena (behind the scene) in US, coupled with the rock solid support they get from the evangelicals.
Listen to urself. U think that place is Nigeria
Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by kopfschmerzen: 9:57am On Aug 16, 2019
Neminc:

She lied just like you are doing now, she was just gas lighting her low information followers. I just posted you a shot from the official twitter handle of the Israeli Prime minister saying she is free to apply for a visit to her grandma if she wants. So you are both lying if you say she was banned from visiting her grandma because she wasn't

Tell that to the Swan, there are million of foreign born and living Palestinians that ain't allowed into the country. I know couple of then here, most of em get visa to Jordan and drive all the way to the occupied WB. You and your official Israel twitter can sell your lies to the birds.



https://twitter.com/Bionicfuz/status/1162016142766067713?s=19

You can as well bing on my hommie reply to this tweet.
Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by holluwai(m): 10:01am On Aug 16, 2019
Nairaland has lost it.
Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by Anduku: 10:05am On Aug 16, 2019
kopfschmerzen:


You just sprout toilet standard garbage, I'm not surprise you come from the world poverty capital. Y'all ain't blessed with functioning IQ, the crap you just spewed is akin to the rambling of a mad man undergoing exorcism.
You have come here again with your foul mouth, when you are banned again you will start looking for who to blame for your misfortunes

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Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by Siralgebra04(m): 10:05am On Aug 16, 2019
fx45:
You seem to be in very sifia pains. You hate Christianity, You hate Trump, you hate Israel, you hate America... Yet you do not want to go and live in your Saudi Arabia and Iran
Fool... What does Xtianity have to do with Israel. Isreal is a Jewish country. Muslims are even far more dan Xtians in Isreal. Do ur research.
Re: US Reps Ilhan Omar And Rashida Tlaib Barred From Visiting Israel by Nobody: 10:05am On Aug 16, 2019
MachadoPreto:


He can't try it.. September what? grin

Don't believe it please. I am 100% sure he won't go for it.

America that has started staring at recession? You talking of a China here. Even Trumps Macy's is 80% China
Ivanka's collections are made in China. The campaign caps and shirts you see are all China. What point am I raising here, China has eaten deep into America today that even if it pulls out and aces the brunt, America will too face it heavily.

And you know the edge China has, it's trade relationships and diversity is top notch.

Trump not thinking about average consumers. He stands for the rich. If he does, he won't go into a trade war with China.
it seems you don't actually understand how trade tariff works. it actually favor the country that buy most. right now there may not be enough stuff that China buy from US to place tariff on. China have run out of stuff to tax because they were the one benefiting more from trade with US-
Trump is trying to bridge the trade deficit between China .

the market is predicting recession for all the major economy. right now the countries closest to recession is Germany then the UK. the American economy is still doing well and far ahead of China. you guys keep shouting America is close to recession to fell Good about your hate for America.
same America you guys will run to with any given opportunity.

the Chinese economy is doing worst even with all the currency manipulation and media control but you guys won't see that

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