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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ak22(m): 12:54am On Aug 20, 2019
15m for where ?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 6:46am On Aug 20, 2019
bixton:

Your site location matters alot if that is possible. A simple design and finishing with a void lounge............ To play safe stay on with 15M on a dry land.
15m cant finish a 5bedroom duplex.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 7:19am On Aug 20, 2019
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Timtol(m): 7:46am On Aug 20, 2019
raymondFirstborn:


i dont know how you intend to do it, N13m can never finish a 5bedroom duplex.
if N10 - N13m is what the carcass of a lowcost 5bedroom duplex should cost.Then how do you intend to finish your duplex.
You don gear up grin
The fact!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Hum2020: 7:48am On Aug 20, 2019
Op 15m cannot finish 5bedroom duplex for moderate finishing just put it at 27m thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Timtol(m): 7:49am On Aug 20, 2019
Well! With experience 15m can handle the carcass only depending on the site location and the type of design intended to build and the choice of materials for the erection.
Cheers!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Timtol(m): 7:50am On Aug 20, 2019
Hum2020:
Op 15m cannot finish 5bedroom duplex for moderate finishing just put it at 27m thanks
Boss, 27m for carcass?
Then that duplex na palace ooo lol
grin grin smiley wink wink
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 8:03am On Aug 20, 2019
raymondFirstborn:


15m cant finish a 5bedroom duplex.

It's good when one has another opinion, ensure you put up your figure for others to see.
Don't disagree and leave your statement blank. It should be easy to put up a quote by you.

Some years ago on this thread a professional built his own house with an amount that was disagreeable to others but was accomplished. It was an eye opener for others.
Another accepted and travelled to the southern region with a quoted figure to build as well even with critics here, but only for some unforseen on site, the variation still was within a range others would never have believed.


Some months back, while we were arguing about quoted figure for plastering and septic tank construction. One Oga was like shouting thief on high quotes on the thread, while one artisan was ready to run a plastering at a very large discount.
A Madam here even owned up to the amount in price for the same plastering job, based on if the work is done by a contractor or the owner does the procurement and supervision himself.


So like I said, which is subject to his location, availability of labour, etc,etc,etc.....
15M should give him a building worthy of being called a home based on his initial inquiry statement.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Timtol(m): 8:10am On Aug 20, 2019
bixton:


It's good when one has another opinion, ensure you put up your figure for others to see.
Don't disagree and leave your statement blank. It should be easy to put up a quote by you.

Some years ago on this thread a professional built his own house with an amount that was disagreeable to others but was accomplished. It was an eye opener for others.
Another accepted and travelled to the southern region with a quoted figure to build as well even with critics here, but only for some unforseen on site, the variation still was within a range others would never have believed.


Some months back, while we were arguing about quoted figure for plastering and septic tank construction. One Oga was like shouting thief on high quotes on the thread, while one artisan was ready to run a plastering at a very large discount.
A Madam here even owned up to the amount in price for the same plastering job, based on if the work is done by a contractor or the owner does the procurement and supervision himself.


So like I said, which is subject to his location, availability of labour, etc,etc,etc.....
15M should give him a building worthy of being called a home based on his initial inquiry statement.

Right!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 8:12am On Aug 20, 2019
Timtol:

Boss, 27m for carcass?
Then that duplex na palace ooo lol
grin grin smiley wink wink

Most designs on NL are not for simplicity so the reason for that quote.
If the Op sticks to simplicity he will achieve his aim.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Timtol(m): 8:20am On Aug 20, 2019
bixton:


Most designs on NL are not for simplicity so the reason for that quote.
If the Op sticks to simplicity he will achieve his aim.
Right! grin grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by timesup234: 8:45am On Aug 20, 2019
15 milliom will complete a 5 bedroom duplex but excluding fencing, gate, interlock, electric fence. You will need to spend over two million more. With 18 million you are well secure

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 8:55am On Aug 20, 2019
bixton:


Most designs on NL are not for simplicity so the reason for that quote.
If the Op sticks to simplicity he will achieve his aim.

Last year i designed and handled the construction of a simple low cost 5bedroom duplex 5.4 x 22m with an estimated budget of N18m.

I can tell you, we didnt finish the said project.Reason is N18m wasnt enough to finish the duplex.
The carcass cost us N11m.

one thing about Nigerian clients, they would say they want simple low cost building, but they would want quality interior finishing.As we all know, quality is not cheap.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 8:58am On Aug 20, 2019
timesup234:
15 milliom will complete a 5 bedroom duplex but excluding fencing, gate, interlock, electric fence. You will need to spend over two million more. With 18 million you are well secure
pls i would advice you back up your claims with facts.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Timtol(m): 9:12am On Aug 20, 2019
timesup234:
15 milliom will complete a 5 bedroom duplex but excluding fencing, gate, interlock, electric fence. You will need to spend over two million more. With 18 million you are well secure
Sir you have neglected site factors and number of floors with design choices which shouldn't be. Reconsider that instead. Let's be realistic
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Timtol(m): 9:13am On Aug 20, 2019
raymondFirstborn:


Last year i designed and handled the construction of a simple low cost 5bedroom duplex 5.4 x 22m with an estimated budget of N18m.

I can tell you, we didnt finish the said project.Reason is N18m wasnt enough to finish the duplex.
The carcass cost us N11m.

one thing about Nigerian clients, they would say they want simple low cost building, but they would want quality interior finishing.As we all know, quality is not cheap.
I'm telling you wink
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BLACKPANTHER111: 9:19am On Aug 20, 2019
earthrealm:


house dey like woman/music, different tastes, i like the first picture, the 2nd pic is local/common grin

Hmmm.thanks for the response but what’s your reason for liking the first one the second
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BLACKPANTHER111: 9:22am On Aug 20, 2019
Umarzy:


The guest toilet window is not looking good in the position it was placed. The Architect should make the window to face sideway. A little protrusion of the toilet wall will take care of that.

Regarding the long hallway. The Architect should find a way to reduce that. The position of the laundry is not okay. Laundry is usually positioned after the Kitchen. It 's usually adjacent to the kitchen varandah/sit-out.

The bedroom after the guest room can be switched for the kitchen. With that, the lobby space reduces i.e. There'll be no wall (that will create a demarcation) between the kitchen and dining.... There will still be space to get through to the lobby, just that the space will be opened and it will allow for more light into that space.

Then the other bedrooms will be repositioned back. That laundry can serve as the walk-in closet.

Thank you very much chief.i don’t think the architect even drew anything.He just look Fred an old plan from google and that annoys me because I’m not there to supervise
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Timtol(m): 9:24am On Aug 20, 2019
BLACKPANTHER111:


Thank you very much chief.i don’t think the architect even drew anything.He just look Fred an old plan from google and that annoys me because I’m not there to supervise
We always dey for you too biko grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 9:31am On Aug 20, 2019
timesup234:
15 milliom will complete a 5 bedroom duplex but excluding fencing, gate, interlock, electric fence. You will need to spend over two million more. With 18 million you are well secure

Excluding electrical and plumbing fittings as well.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 9:51am On Aug 20, 2019
I like all the professionals and home owners here for there comets about the OP that asked if 13m can give him simple and good 5bedrooms duplex from scratch to the finishing stage. It’s now shows that 13m can never give him such edifice.

But OP don’t be discourage 13m is a lot of more just have it in your deep rooted mind and have positive mind that it’s done... prepared to spent additional little more money to give you your desire home
As they say ROME DOES NOT BUILD IN A DAY.
You are Almost there

Just my little conclusion about the matter

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 10:23am On Aug 20, 2019
raymondFirstborn:


Last year i designed and handled the construction of a simple low cost 5bedroom duplex 5.4 x 22m with an estimated budget of N18m.

I can tell you, we didnt finish the said project.Reason is N18m wasnt enough to finish the duplex.
The carcass cost us N11m.

one thing about Nigerian clients, they would say they want simple low cost building, but they would want quality interior finishing.As we all know, quality is not cheap.

If you do an estimate and give to your client(s) based on what he wants as regards "low costing" and the client changes his mind in the process of construction for an upgrade/uplift of appearance, then that's not your fault.
But if you mistakenly do an under-quote without considering certain factors, well the blame is yours.

If there are changes from client based on the carcass which is not on the design plan,the client pays for the extra.
As regards quality interior finishing. If you have shown and agreed on samples which are based on its price and you use that tag, then if the client opts for another superior then the client knows what to do.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Stundey(m): 12:05pm On Aug 20, 2019
BLACKPANTHER111:


Good morning Chief.I hope your day is already turning out to be a great one.
Please I have come back to consult you. smiley Abeg can you help me point out places of correction on the second plan as adviced yesterday.
Pls your expert help and advice is needed and I will appreciate it chief

DESIGN IS PREFERENTIAL, but there are some things that should be avoided, if not, would cause problems.

That been written, the visitor's toilet's defect is more than having its window placed at the entrance (that's usually not a problem); it's about placement of its inspection chamber for its plumbing work. As it is, the inspection chamber would be buried under the Sit-out and would need to be dug out if there ever exists a need to work on it. And that's a problem.

The tunnel (labeled as Hallway) is an absolute waste of space with the width of about 2.7m. Apart from being long, there's no source of natural light to it, thus, "there would be light at the end of the tunnel", not within the tunnel except there'd always be 24/7 power supply to power artificial light.
Note: The natural light can be achieved during the construction stage, provided the Architect wants that and he's in charge of the supervision.

The Laundry is better placed beside the Store, not because that's the "rightful place" for it to be, but it will be more effective at the place, while the Toilet is moved to where the Laundry is presently.

The door that leads from Kitchen to Dining should be removed to give the Kitchen more work area.

P.S: I want to believe you are restricting the Architect some way as he should be able to do more than this.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BLACKPANTHER111: 12:26pm On Aug 20, 2019
Stundey:


DESIGN IS PREFERENTIAL, but there are some things that should be avoided, if not, would cause problems.

That been written, the visitor's toilet's defect is more than having its window placed at the entrance (that's usually not a problem); it's about placement of its inspection chamber for its plumbing work. As it is, the inspection chamber would be buried under the Sit-out and would need to be dug out if there ever exists a need to work on it. And that's a problem.

The tunnel (labeled as Hallway) is an absolute waste of space with the width of about 2.7m. Apart from being long, there's no source of natural light to it, thus, "there would be light at the end of the tunnel", not within the tunnel except there'd always be 24/7 power supply to power artificial light.
Note: The natural light can be achieved during the construction stage, provided the Architect wants that and he's in charge of the supervision.

The Laundry is better placed beside the Store, not because that's the "rightful place" for it to be, but it will be more effective at the place, while the Toilet is moved to where the Laundry is presently.

The door that leads from Kitchen to Dining should be removed to give the Kitchen more work area.

P.S: I want to believe you are restricting the Architect some way as he should be able to do more than this.


Thank you Brother.I will look into all this Asap.Are you an architect?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 2:14pm On Aug 20, 2019
rotecch77:
Good day All
It’s a pity that this section of Nairaland (property section) is not as its before why?
We are missing some guru here range from
Architects
Builders
Engr’s
QSs
Clients
Suppliers
Etc
Which there wealth of experience in build industry make this section one of the best on Nairaland

Actually I know what make some of them keep quiet this day is just because some are label names which is not that so aspected by them and many more like that.

What we do we see this days mostly is non professional advise which in turn do give some home base bad names bcs for example some who has not visited site ones in his life or know anything about building will be give building quote to non home base person and later a professional give advise or quote the next thing we will see is that the quote is TOO HIGH,
so many thing like that pls is too annoying why because some of you guru has ran away from here.

If all ran away who will make the this section great again pls that is why I will mention some names here to pls come back again and let’s rebuild this Nairaland as a whole

Pls I will like you people to ponder deeply and come back here and make this section great again
In the likes of

Hajji mufutau
Segcy Moore
A venture
Rubbish
Dennis 3D
Egin
Abdulwastech
Kenny
Topsy
Spider
Rotech77
Floflo
Egunmogaji ( tuale o)
Kingsodigital (not the actual user name)
Dubem capital
Dabomb
Ericko
fastshiping
Brabus
Olumide for Christ
angelicbeing ( Oyinbo po ju )
Sweet home seller guy ( not the real user name)
Abuzaid.
Gbadex paint
Client ( Bikonu , ejoo yankuri)

Modified*name continue

Adanny
Skimaski
Timtol.
Allcopatec
Bixton




And many more guru which I forget there-names now.
Pls I urge you people to come back again to make this section great again.

If your name is not mentioned don’t think you are left outside this issue, you cant hide I will surely dig you out and include your name later

As you remembered me, may Allah remember you too and bless you abundantly.

I’m humbled.

Here’s my opinion on the issue that you raised.

Many vendors have moved on and stopped posting either because of personal commitments or being bullied away.

For owners like me, many of us have finished our builds and many more since then, gained the experience and simply stopped participating.

In my opinion this specific thread has outlived its intent if not its usefullness. (Edited to add the following for clarification).....for people like me on the list. Of course it continues to be useful for new builders and the accompanying spam adverts.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by durojim007: 2:53pm On Aug 20, 2019
Hello house,

Please, I need some information on screeding.
1. How much is labour per sqm
2. Which of the screeding product is best for interior and exterior
3. Is cement good for screeding
4. How much is labour and material per sqm

Location: Ibeju Lekki


Thanks for all the help
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Mohr(m): 3:09pm On Aug 20, 2019
[No matter how frugal you are, 13M cannot complete a 5 bedroom Duplex. Don't be deceived by the posts you are reading and don't be a victim unwholesome dealing. Cost of materials are high anywhere in Nigeria. Be guided.]Good morning all.... I have an important question. Can 13.million naira build a portable 5bedroom duplex from scratch to finish? If yes, I will like to see a building sample of that value .[/quote]
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by RedMapleConsult(m): 3:43pm On Aug 20, 2019
durojim007:
Hello house,

Please, I need some information on screeding.
1. How much is labour per sqm
2. Which of the screeding product is best for interior and exterior
3. Is cement good for screeding
4. How much is labour and material per sqm

Location: Ibeju Lekki

Thanks for all the help

Labour varies from 250-450 naira per sqm depending on the total area and where to be screeded

For interior screeding, we use POP cement, POP emulsion and topbond. though there are other screeding materials like PVA and sorts but domestically POP cement and emulsion used.
Cement is good For exterior screeding.

Labour and material together varies from 500-750.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 4:44pm On Aug 20, 2019
EgunMogaji2:


As you remembered me, may Allah remember you too and bless you abundantly.

I’m humbled.

Here’s my opinion on the issue that you raised.

Many vendors have moved on and stopped posting either because of personal commitments or being bullied away.


For owners like me, many of us have finished our builds and many more since then, gained the experience and simply stopped participating.

In my opinion this specific thread has outlived its intent if not its usefullness.


I’m more than happier to see you again here and a big AMEN to your prayer.
Good things is about coming.
I’m well understood that most home owners then have done with there project which I’m so happy about.
But we still need you people here to always guide new home owners based on your experience With others professional so that people will not be mislead.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by durojim007: 5:13pm On Aug 20, 2019
RedMapleConsult:


Labour varies from 250-450 naira per sqm depending on the total area and where to be screeded

For interior screeding, we use POP cement, POP emulsion and topbond. though there are other screeding materials like PVA and sorts but domestically POP cement and emulsion used.
Cement is good For exterior screeding.

Labour and material together varies from 500-750.




Thanks for you input. Appreciated

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Stundey(m): 5:55pm On Aug 20, 2019
BLACKPANTHER111:



Thank you Brother.I will look into all this Asap.Are you an architect?

Yes, I am.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by JWTheocracy1: 6:06pm On Aug 20, 2019
Thank You all for the contributions... now I just have to step up my game having known that my proposed budget isn't feasible for what I've already planned. Maybe I can start with what is readily available, by Gods grace can be able to complete it in 10months

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