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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 4:55pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Greatihex:ibime told you to provide stats. You started solving Futher maths Xa ko, Dy/DX ni 8 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 4:56pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Greatihex: I don't know lordfalcao's major problem. Won't be surprised if he has auditory problem too. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 5:00pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Greatihex: Yet KDB still has double the XA of Hazard Hazard 6.5XA, KDB 13 XA Coming back to your original statement that XA is the true test of vision, we still come back to DeBruyne having much more vision than Hazard. This also reinforces the big chance stats which showed KDB creating double the number of big chances on average Hazard 2018 season, 4 assists, 6.5 XA Hazard 2019 season 16 assists, 11.7 XA Combine both seasons, and we see why assists is a good metric to judge creativity, so we can stop blaming teammates. Greatihex: Because Hazard last season is an outlier. Hazard usual XA is 6,6,5 etc while DeBruyne is 12 and above 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 5:01pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
eph12: LMAO. Relapsing team. Was actually laughing at something else though. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 5:04pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Greatihex:An interesting read on one of the world's best players of the round leather game. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:13pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Ibime: Which applies to Hazard. Sorry to ask you, what does Debruyne having more Assists than XA mean? The image greatihex posted below, shows that Man city players weren't as wasteful as Chelsea's, which has been one of the reasons Hazard didn't get more assists that he deserved. Even Firminho with lower XA had more assists than Hazard and more assists than his XA like De bruyne and Sterling. 5 Likes
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Mapoka: 5:19pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Swissh: Is that all? What happened to Neymar coming as at last month? Abi na trek him dey trek? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 5:19pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
airmark: According to your pic, he deserved 7 assists not 4 While DeBruyne deserved 13 assists not 16 DeBruyne is still double his deserved assist for that season which still comes back to what we told you about big chances. DeBruyne creates TWICE as many big chances as Hazard during their time in EPL due to his superior vision. Just because a poor man deserve to be a millionaire doesn't mean he should compare himself to Bill Gates 6 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BikeMan: 5:21pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:30pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Ibime: Which was Hazard's poorest season. This is just a factor, out of others that limited his outputs. Imagine playing under a coach who won't bench his winger because he is not marking inside the box like Lukaku? Imagine him in a team like City enjoying the luxury that KDB enjoys at the end of his assists. That's why i respect you for the post below Ibime: 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 5:30pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BikeMan: 5:31pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
thorrvik55:A successful football player nii o. As Baba don take no. 10 now ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Swissh: 5:34pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
lordfalcao:
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 5:40pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
BikeMan: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Omo this guy would have become a very succesful olosho if he was a woman - he has absolutely no shame. Maybe thats even the secret he wants to share gaan 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 6:04pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
lordfalcao:state your reason |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 6:08pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
gensteejay: You serious? Scholes never won one. Lampard never won one. Aguero hasn't won one.That's an incredibly superficial way of assessing the better player by using silly awards my man. 6 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 6:08pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Ibime:can you provide facts to back up the bold? i don't understand you. how can 6.78 be the usual for hazard when it was produced in one of his worst seasons in chelsea? and how can 12.97 be the usual for kdb when it was produced in his best ever season in england? 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 6:34pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
hensben: Forget Morata put me with him and I could score 10 or more goals in the EPL with De Bruyne assisting me. His pass technique is the bomb,they dont just go in the direction, they are bolted through with high speed, even go right by a few defenders cause the ball is moving so fast, and then come to a stop at the perfect place in front of the running attacker, i havent even seen Messi or Xavi do that, the one player i've seen do that was prime fabregas from his Arsenal days (he was never the same after having to adapt to playing out of position for barcelona). 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:41pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Kimbeast: Are you sure of what you just typed? Don't let me think you just started supporting Chelsea after we won UCL. KDB is not on Hazard and Lampard level please. Let KDB be the best in the league for just one season like them first. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 6:47pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Greatihex: What's wrong with you Hazard cultists? How is that his worst season when it's a normal thing for him? 2016 - 4 assists 2017 - 5 assists 2018 - 4 assists Stop talking nonsense my friend and avail us of Hazard XA for those seasons if they are fantastic. 8 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 6:49pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Hazard cultists. LOL Local man is disgusted. 8 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 6:52pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
airmark:Ok just checked he won one but that doesn't change my point. Winning that award adds nothing to a player quality or ability. Honesty the last part of your post is garbage. Vardy can't lace Aguero boots yet he has won one and aguero have won none. So by your logic if aguero can't win one then vardy is better or what? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 7:02pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Here are Hazard's individual honors according to Wikipedia: UNFP Ligue 1 Young Player of the Year: 2008–09, 2009–10 UNFP Ligue 1 Team of the Year: 2009–10, 2010–11, 2011–12 UNFP Ligue 1 Player of the Year: 2010–11, 2011–12 UNFP Ligue 1 Player of the Month: March 2010, March 2011, March 2012, April 2012 Bravo Award: 2011 FIFA FIFPro World XI: 1st team: 2018; 2nd team: 2015; 4th team: 2014, 2016, 2017; Nominee: 2012 FIFA Ballon d'Or/Ballon d'Or: 2015 (8th place), 2018 (8th place) The Best FIFA Men's Player: 2018 (7th place) Premier League Player of the Season: 2014–15 Premier League Playmaker of the Season: 2018–19 Premier League Player of the Month: October 2016, September 2018 Premier League Goal of the Month: February 2017, April 2019 PFA Premier League Team of the Year: 2012–13,2013–14, 2014–15, 2016–17 PFA Young Player of the Year: 2013–14 PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2013–14 (2nd place), 2014–15 (1st place), 2016–17 (2nd place) PFA Fans' Premier League Player of the Month: October 2016 PFA Fans' Player of the Year: 2018–19 UEFA Men's Player of the Year Award: 2015 (6th place), 2018 (9th place), 2019 (7th place) UEFA European Championship top assist provider: 2016 UEFA Team of the Year: 2017, 2018 UEFA Europa League Final Man of the Match: 2019 UEFA Europa League Squad of the Season: 2018–19 Chelsea Player of the Year: 2013–14, 2014–15, 2016–17, 2018–19 Chelsea Players' Player of the Year: 2014–15, 2018–19 Chelsea Goal of the Year: 2015–16 (vs. Tottenham Hotspur), 2016–17 (vs. Arsenal), 2018–19 (vs. Liverpool) FWA Footballer of the Year: 2014–15 ESM Team of the Year: 2014–15 Belgian Golden Shoe: 2017 FIFA World Cup Silver Ball: 2018 FIFA World Cup top assist provider: 2018 FIFA World Cup Fantasy McDonald's Overall XI: 2018 IFFHS Men's World Team: 2018 Belgian Sportsman of the year: 2018 Here are KDB's: Bundesliga Young Player of the Year: 2012–13 Bundesliga Player of the Year: 2014–15 Bundesliga Team of the Year: 2014–15 UEFA Europa League Squad of the Season: 2014–15 Footballer of the Year in Germany: 2015 France Football World XI: 2015 Belgian Sportsman of the Year: 2015 Manchester City Player of the Year: 2015–16, 2017–18 FIFA FIFPro World XI 2nd team: 2018 FIFA FIFPro World XI 3rd team: 2016 IFFHS Men's World Team: 2017 UEFA Team of the Year: 2017 PFA Team of the Year: 2017–18 Premier League[192] Premier League Playmaker of the Season: 2017–18 UEFA Champions League Squad of the Season: 2017–18,[193] 2018–19 FIFA World Cup Dream Team: 2018 The better player is obvious comparing these individual honors. Furthermore, when both players played under the same coaches (in the national team and at club level), Hazard outperformed the latter. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:06pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
airmark: Just like Michael Owen won balon dor which Raul Xavi, Henry never won 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 7:07pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Kimbeast: The person you quoted said Hazard was the best in the league more than once, you had to lie that Lampard never won the award once, to defend what's not defensible. Your next move was to name one player who peaked late in his career after working as a factory worker, to rubbish the award. Nice try. Oga, stop making lot of noise, let KDB win it once, then we can bring him close to his bosses, that had bossed the league more than once. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 7:10pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
raumdeuter: Your Henry, the chief choker? ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:12pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Kimbeast: yes na. To student of the citadel Vardy is better than Aguero and Owen is better than Raul 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:15pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
airmark: Just like Vardy is a boss to Aguero because Vardy won the award Aguero nor D.Silva has won 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 7:15pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
gensteejay: Humiliation. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() One will think Hazard is older than him by like 7yrs. 1 Like
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 7:16pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
airmark:Lol. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 7:17pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Greatihex:considering hazard output in the last 7 seasons, when he was younger he was not scoring much.. he is now 28, the older you go, the more you lose sharpness. Someone like hazard who didn't score much when he was younger and more energetic will not score that amount of goals in 6 season to pass lampard 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 7:22pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
gensteejay: Hazard older by 4 or 5 months i think. They are not mates at all. |
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