If according to the religious people, God could create a natural mountain, valley, sea, lake, sky, ocean, breeze, birds, human, water, etc, why did God have to leave his Words to be written by men?
God should have made his word grow out of the ground like trees or the whole world should have heard him speaking, rather than some cunning men writing the Bible, Quran, Vedas, Gathas, etc.

This thread reminds me of the Indian film called PK. Who has watched the film?

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How can Yahweh or Allah? They don't have language aside from the language of men and can not write any different from men. If they could they would have taught us their language and maintained the communication channels in their language. The Muslims try to fake it with Arabic, as if Arabic did not exist before Mohammed wrote the Quran.

Also, neither Yahweh nor Allah nor any other gods know how to make books so they waited until humans invented the technology before they could create the books that are called inspired by the gods.

Let there be a book filled with my unambiguous guidance on all things, is a command more simple than let there be light.

I so love the ignorance! If only people could understand how God evolved into being from way back when God was in Egypt. But unfortunately, most start from Genesis without understanding the billions or so years before then.

Someday, you will understand what Christ meant when it was written that he said, "humans must not live by bread alone or they will be malnourished"!

Anyone trying to search for God through religion will only be met with disappointment and half-baked knowledge of others about God.

It's better to search for God outside religions, and for this, science remains an essential tool.

Hebrews 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the world's.

The whole of nature speaks already, it is a miracle you do not hear.

geoworldedu:
If according to the religious people, God could create a natural mountain, valley, sea, lake, sky, ocean, breeze, birds, human, water, etc, why did God have to leave his Words to be written by men?

Funny. Another "if" argument. I somehow feel people use that word to set up straw.

One thing some miss is God is actually a way of understanding things. No one after all has exactly said what God is. Scripture even warns that one should not make images of God, the exact words being "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth". Yet, that precisely is what many tend to do without realising that it is not so much that you should not create images of God, but that you possibly can't create an image of God. I guess humans can't live without their so called, objective reality.

Scripture, is an image of God. It is a tale weaved by us humans to share our understanding of whatever God may be. It, itself is not God, but the finger pointing in the general direction of what God has been understood to be by its writers and which forms the idea of God that many have. But as Jesus is written to have said, Those who live by bread alone will clearly be malnourished. As to Scripture, it is written that If all the trees of the earth were pens and the oceans ink, with many more oceans for replenishing them, the colloquy of God would never come to end. He is indeed all-mighty and all-wise".

The wise, or less wise, in this context, do not assume the little they know is everything.

budaatum:

Funny. Another "if" argument. I somehow feel people use that word to set up straw.

One thing some miss is God is actually a way of understanding things. No one after all has exactly said what God is. Scripture even warns that one should not make images of God, the exact words being "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth". Yet, that precisely is what many tend to do without realising that it is not so much that you should not create images of God, but that you possibly can't create an image of God. I guess humans can't live without their so called, objective reality.

Scripture, is an image of God. It is a tale weaved by us humans to share our understanding of whatever God may be. It, itself is not God, but the finger pointing in the general direction of what God has been understood to be by its writers and which forms the idea of God that many have. But as Jesus is written to have said, Those who live by bread alone will clearly be malnourished. As to Scripture, it is written that If all the trees of the earth were pens and the oceans ink, with many more oceans for replenishing them, the colloquy of God would never come to end. He is indeed all-mighty and all-wise".

The wise, or less wise, in this context, do not assume the little they know is everything.

I don't seem to understand your argument at all. Can you summarise and simplify what you mean?

LordReed:
How can Yahweh or Allah? They don't have language aside from the language of men and can not write any different from men. If they could they would have taught us their language and maintained the communication channels in their language. The Muslims try to fake it with Arabic, as if Arabic did not exist before Mohammed wrote the Quran.

Also, neither Yahweh nor Allah nor any other gods know how to make books so they waited until humans invented the technology before they could create the books that are called inspired by the gods.

Let there be a book filled with my unambiguous guidance on all things, is a command more simple than let there be light.

You're on point somehow.

budaatum:
I so love the ignorance! If only people could understand how God evolved into being from way back when God was in Egypt. But unfortunately, most start from Genesis without understanding the 2000 or so years before then.

Someday, you will understand what Christ meant when it was written that he said, "humans must not live by bread alone or they will be malnourished"!

The topic is very straightforward, your explanation is very gloomy and unclear.

Image123:
Hebrews 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the world's.

The whole of nature speaks already, it is a miracle you do not hear.

You haven't answered any question.

geoworldedu:


I don't seem to understand your argument at all. Can you summarise and simplify what you mean?

geoworldedu:
The topic is very straightforward, your explanation is very gloomy and unclear.

How can what you do not understand and which is unclear to you be gloomy?

Tell me what you do understand. Ask specific questions too. Then I might help you understand and only then can you know if it is gloomy or not.

budaatum:

How can what you do not understand and which is unclear to you be gloomy?

Tell me what you do understand. Ask specific questions too. Then I might help you understand and only then can you know if it is gloomy or not.

The bible(Word of God)
The Koran(Word of God)
The Vedas(Word of God) etc. are all written down by human beings. The question is, why can't the Word of God grow out of the ground by itself or we hear it all at once? Why is the word of God artificial instead of being natural?

geoworldedu:

The bible(Word of God)
The Koran(Word of God)
The Vedas(Word of God) etc. are all written down by human beings. The question is, why can't the Word of God grow out of the ground by itself or we hear it all at once? Why is the word of God artificial instead of being natural?

If you think of it, of what benefit to God would words be? Are words for God's benefit or for the benefit of we humans? What purpose would you say those Words you mentioned serve?

budaatum:

If you think of it, of what benefit to God would words be? Are words for God's benefit or for the benefit of we humans? What purpose would you say those Words you mentioned serve?

Are these your straightforward answers to my straightforward question?

geoworldedu:
Are these your straightforward answers to my straightforward question?

If I may be bold enough to answer for my dear buda, buda does not do question and answer, buda does understanding with your own brain.

geoworldedu:
Are these your straightforward answers to my straightforward question?

No! They are questions to see how it is that you understand what it is that you ask in your insightful questions which I admired immensely.

budaatum:

Funny. Another "if" argument. I somehow feel people use that word to set up straw.

One thing some miss is God is actually a way of understanding things. No one after all has exactly said what God is. Scripture even warns that one should not make images of God, the exact words being "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth". Yet, that precisely is what many tend to do without realising that it is not so much that you should not create images of God, but that you possibly can't create an image of God. I guess humans can't live without their so called, objective reality.

Scripture, is an image of God. It is a tale weaved by us humans to share our understanding of whatever God may be. It, itself is not God, but the finger pointing in the general direction of what God has been understood to be by its writers and which forms the idea of God that many have. But as Jesus is written to have said, Those who live by bread alone will clearly be malnourished. As to Scripture, it is written that If all the trees of the earth were pens and the oceans ink, with many more oceans for replenishing them, the colloquy of God would never come to end. He is indeed all-mighty and all-wise".

The wise, or less wise, in this context, do not assume the little they know is everything.

Seems you do smoke weed before commenting on religious threads. No iota of sense made!

GodWrites:


Seems you do smoke weed before commenting on religious threads. No iota of sense made!

Did you yourself with your very own hand not write, "Thou shalt not ignore"?

In your head see, big brain! Way too smart to ignore.

Tell truths God. You just disagree buda sense!

A quite simple question.
Unfortunately the religious people will give you only a long winding convoluted non answer full of lies and more lies that will leave your head spinning.

Just more astounding rubbish upon rubbish!

LordReed:


If I may be bold enough to answer for my dear buda, buda does not do question and answer, buda does understanding with your own brain.

Then there's no need for Buda to be here.

geoworldedu:
Then there's no need for Buda to be here.

Thankfully, that's not for you to decide.

The Mahanta, the Living ECK Master is the Living Word of God. All others are fake, period.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0A_iF1B3k0

Firstly, there's no WORD OF GOD.
Secondly, there are words of the gods(beings) created by God Almighty.

Jehovah, Allah, Vishnu, Mazda, Moloch, etc happen to champion the course of some religions and had followers. These followers wrote down their philosophies, which today are called Word of God by their followers.

You'll be shocked that hardly does any of these earthly religions point to God Almighty, rather, they are pointing to one being or the other. The bible points you to Jehovah, one of the caged gods. The Qur'an points you to Allah, another caged god. The Vedas points you to Vishnu, one of the repentant gods, while the Gathas points you to Ahura Mazda, another imprisoned god.

However, the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY is here, being revealed by many of the gods of science. This book reveals what God Almighty is and what it is not. Yet we cannot call it the WORD OF GOD, because God Almighty doesn't sit somewhere to write words for humans, rather, humans themselves, by the inspiration of one god or the other, write books.

In other news, Jehovah, Allah, Moloch, Enlil, Mazda and thousands of religious gods are currently in their spiritual cage and they'll be there for a thousand years. It's already about 3 years since they've been there. In 3 days time, it would be the 3rd year Anniversary of the Imprisonment of these gods and it would be celebrated on social media. You all should stay healthy and alive to celebrate it. Happy Celebration!!!!

@Geoworldedu,

But some christians will argue that god's word can also come naturally!!! They claim that god can use the s.hit that comes out of their buttocks to write a special message for them!!!

And to all the christians who think I am lying, this is the link:..............................................https://www.huffpost.com/entry/halla-poo-yah-katy-vasquez-sees-god-in-babys-soiled-diaper_n_573c9478e4b0ef86171cdacc


They say a picture is worth a thousand words!!!

Dantedasz:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0A_iF1B3k0

I love this tube. It points out the fallacy of false equivalence. Look careful and see how they switch from the Doctrine of Christianity to the practice of the religion. It is the sort of fallacy no brains never see.

Is it not a fallacy to blame my imperfection on Dante?

Hollymolly
Jesus is a Christian

Niflheim:
@Geoworldedu,

But some christians will argue that god's word can also come naturally!!! They claim that god can use the s.hit that comes out of their buttocks to write a special message for them!!!

And to all the christians who think I am lying, this is the link:..............................................https://www.huffpost.com/entry/halla-poo-yah-katy-vasquez-sees-god-in-babys-soiled-diaper_n_573c9478e4b0ef86171cdacc


They say a picture is worth a thousand words!!!

Bwahahahahaha! These people will not kill somebody o!

geoworldedu:
If according to the religious people, God could create a natural mountain, valley, sea, lake, sky, ocean, breeze, birds, human, water, etc, why did God have to leave his Words to be written by men?
God should have made his word grow out of the ground like trees or the whole world should have heard him speaking, rather than some cunning men writing the Bible, Quran, Vedas, Gathas, etc.

This thread reminds me of the Indian film called PK. Who has watched the film?

You want evidence for that or what. I would rather suggest you have faith in your Creator first.

iamgenius:

You want evidence for that or what. I would rather suggest you have faith in your Creator first.

Who's my creator?