ejimatic:
. The PDP prayed that Atiku be declared winner or a rerun on 10 states. No election tribunal can declare or winner .deduct votes .It can only order a rerun. The writer of the above thread gave examples of states elections where results were cancelled before the use of revised electoral laws. Is there any precedent in presidential election?Obasanjo vrs Buhari Awolowo vrs Shagari Fakae vrs Obj Buhari vrs Jonathan all went in favour of respondents.This is not a surprise because non compliance must be proved beyond any reasonable doubt.In the case of Atiku there were contradictions in the testimony of all the witnesses.Even the inec server was not logically proved. All was doctored testimony.The tribunal must accept all evidences but it does not mean they are tenable. In my opinion all of them hold no water.By implication of supreme court judgement on Tuesday if there is no inec server what else again? INEC is not mandated by law to present witnesses .it is an umpire. No witness for INEC in Osun tribunal. This was emphasised and accepted at the appeal court later. A good part 1 law student should know that Atiku case has evidential and technical failures.It is the simplest case so far to be determined in the history of presidential election in Nigeria. It will forever be a mirage for the opposition to win at the presidential election tribunal in Nigeria.

Is lying under an oath an offence

Can you present 3 certificates for the same exam with different names and result computation.

engineerboat:


Wake up to reality stop fooling about.

Seems you're following the proceeding from your illusioned BMCO mud m-house.

Wake up morning don break

The All Progressives Congress (APC) and its 2019 presidential candidate, President Muhammadu Buhari, on Wednesday, August 21, informed the Presidential Election Petition Tribunal (PEPT) that Atiku Abubakar has not denied claims by the party that he is not Nigerian.

Making their final submissions before the tribunal the APC and President Buhari prayed the court to dismiss petition by Abubakar and the Peoples Democratic Party against the results of the 2019 presidential election, Igbere TV reports.

Speaking before the tribunal, counsel to the president, Wole Olanipekun, said the petition brought before the tribunal by the PDP and Atiku failed to lead any reasonable evidence to support their claim.

Olanipekun said the petitioners who have claimed that the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) had a server with which it worked with to deliver the election results, they have failed to identify it and show the court where it is located.

Also speaking, Lateef Fagbemi, counsel to the APC said all issues raised against Atiku’s qualification to contest for allegedly not being a Nigerian by birth, were not challenged by either Atiku himself or the PDP. “On the qualification of the first petitioners (Atiku). In spite of all we put before the court, they provided nothing to the contrary."

“What we need is minimal proof. Nothing was put forward in the petitioners’ written address to counter this. And, I must commend them, because they have nothing to offer," Fagbemi said. He said the third respondent has discharge the burden on that and that the issue of the 1st petitioner’s non-qualification is effectively dealt with in the APC's written address.

“To fault INEC’s position, they have the burden to show substantial non-compliance. They failed to do this. The implication therefore, is that there was substantial compliance with the Electoral Act in the conduct of the last presidential election,”‎ Fagbemi added.

https://www.legit.ng/amp/1255458-breaking

engineerboat:


Is lying under an oath an offence

Can you present 3 certificates for the same exam with different names and result computation.

Has atiku presented any proof that he's a nigerian by birth

garfield1:

Buhari is qualified to contest elections

Atiku never alleged forgery and bihari has successfully proved that he's educated up to school cert level

The results were correctly computed and collated.

Atiku clearly failed to prove that hes a nigerian citizen by birth

He failed to reply to apc application that his case will be struck out

He will lose without even the judges hearing the main case.up buhari,down Atiku

Argue with this

garfield1:

Has atiku presented any proof that he's a nigerian by birth

The Presidential candidate of the Peoples Democratic Party, Alhaji Atiku Abubakar, has rebuked the All Progressives Congress, APC, describing the allegation that he is a Cameroonian as puerile, face saving, vexatious, absolutely and completely unfounded.

Atiku, in his response to preliminary objection the APC filed to challenge his petition against the declaration of President President Muhammadu Buhari as winner of the February 23 presidential election, maintained that he is a full blooded Nigerian.

He urged the Presidential election petition tribunal sitting in Abuja to ignore what he termed as “extraneous facts, contradictory, diversionary, evasive, speculative and vague assertions”, by both the APC and President Buhari.

Atiku told the tribunal that contrary to APC’s allegation that he is an alien, he said he is a Nigerian by birth and a Fulani by tribe.

He told the tribunal that he has been a Nigerian politician for about 30 years, adding that in 1992, he contested in the Presidential Primaries under the platform of then Social Democratic Party (SDP) alongside the late Chief M.K.O Abiola and Ambassador Baba Gana Kingibe.


He said: ” Contrary to the allegations contained in paragraphs 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 of the 3rd Respondent’s Reply, the Petitioners state that the ” ” ” 1st Petitioner is a citizen of Nigeria by Birth and thus qualified to vote and be voted for and returned in the election to the office of the President of the Federal Republic of

“[b]In further response to paragraphs 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 8 of the 3rd Respondent’s Reply, Atiku and his party state as follows:

.”The 1st Petitioner was born on 25th November, 1946 in Jada, Adamawa State by Nigerian Parents and he is therefore a citizen of Nigeria by Birth.

“The 1st Petitioner’s father, Garba Atiku Abdulkadir was a Nigerian by Birth who hailed from Wumo in present day Sokoto State while the mother, Aisha Kande was also a Nigerian who hailed from Dutse in present day Jigawa State.

“The parents of the 1st Petitioner are both Fulani, a community/tribe indigenous to Nigeria.

“The birth of the 1st Petitioner in Jada, in present day Adamawa State of Nigeria was occasioned by the movement of his paternal grandfather called Atiku who was an itinerant trader, from Wu.mo in present day Sokoto State to Jada in the company of his friend, Ardo Usman.

“That in Jada, Atiku, the grandfather of the 1st Petitioner gave birth to Garba who in turn gave birth to the 1st Petitioner and named him after his own father Atiku.

“The 1st Petitioner’s mother, Aisha Kande was the grand-daughter of Inuwa Dutse who came to Jada as an itinerant trader too from Dutse in present day Jigawa State.[/b]

“That all averments concerning Germany, British Cameroons, League of Nations and Plebiscite are false and misleading in relation to the 1st Petitioner and therefore completely irrelevant more so that the 1st Petitioner is a Nigerian by birth within the contemplation of the Constitution of the Federal Republic ofNigeria, 1999 (as amended).

“The averments in the aforesaid paragraphs are indeed fabricated, contrived, made in bad faith and designed to embarrass the 1st Petitioner.

“In response to paragraph 7 of the 3rd Respondent’s Reply, the Petitioners aver that the votes of the 1st Petitioner in the Election of 23rd February, 2019

to the office of the President are not wasted votes, and the 1st Petitioner being a qualified candidate in the said Election indeed secured majority of lawful votes over and above the votes of the 2nd Respondent.

“In further reaction to Paragraph 7 of the 3rd Respondent Reply, the Petitioners hereby plead and contend that at all times material the he Atiku has been a Nigerian by birth and has participated in the following career and political activities and has also received the following awards and honours:

“That he was a civil servant in the Nigerian Customs Service for over 20 years and retired as a Deputy Director.

“That he has been a Nigerian politician for about 30 years and in 1992 he contested in the Presidential Primaries under the platform of then Social Democratic Party (SDP) alongside the late Chief M.K.O Abiola and Ambassador Baba Gana Kingibe.

” That he contested for and won the 1999 Gubernatorial election in Adamawa State under the platform of the 2nd Petitioner.

” That Former President Olusegun Obasanjo and himself contested for and won the 1999 and 2003 Presidential Elections, respectively as President and Vice President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria under the platform of Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), the 2nd Petitioner.

” The 1st Petitioner is the recipient of the National Honour of Grand Commander of the Order of the Niger (GCON).

“The 1st Petitioner was the traditional title holder of Turakin Adamawa from 1982 to 2017 when he was elevated to Wazirin Adamawa amongs other avarment to support his claims.

https://www.channelstv.com/2019/04/22/i-am-a-nigerian-atiku-replies-apc/amp/

engineerboat:


Argue with this

Atiku has to prove his citizenship before we get here

engineerboat:


The Presidential candidate of the Peoples Democratic Party, Alhaji Atiku Abubakar, has rebuked the All Progressives Congress, APC, describing the allegation that he is a Cameroonian as puerile, face saving, vexatious, absolutely and completely unfounded.

Atiku, in his response to preliminary objection the APC filed to challenge his petition against the declaration of President President Muhammadu Buhari as winner of the February 23 presidential election, maintained that he is a full blooded Nigerian.

He urged the Presidential election petition tribunal sitting in Abuja to ignore what he termed as “extraneous facts, contradictory, diversionary, evasive, speculative and vague assertions”, by both the APC and President Buhari.

Atiku told the tribunal that contrary to APC’s allegation that he is an alien, he said he is a Nigerian by birth and a Fulani by tribe.

He told the tribunal that he has been a Nigerian politician for about 30 years, adding that in 1992, he contested in the Presidential Primaries under the platform of then Social Democratic Party (SDP) alongside the late Chief M.K.O Abiola and Ambassador Baba Gana Kingibe.


He said: ” Contrary to the allegations contained in paragraphs 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 of the 3rd Respondent’s Reply, the Petitioners state that the ” ” ” 1st Petitioner is a citizen of Nigeria by Birth and thus qualified to vote and be voted for and returned in the election to the office of the President of the Federal Republic of

“[b]In further response to paragraphs 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 8 of the 3rd Respondent’s Reply, Atiku and his party state as follows:

.”The 1st Petitioner was born on 25th November, 1946 in Jada, Adamawa State by Nigerian Parents and he is therefore a citizen of Nigeria by Birth.

“The 1st Petitioner’s father, Garba Atiku Abdulkadir was a Nigerian by Birth who hailed from Wumo in present day Sokoto State while the mother, Aisha Kande was also a Nigerian who hailed from Dutse in present day Jigawa State.

“The parents of the 1st Petitioner are both Fulani, a community/tribe indigenous to Nigeria.

“The birth of the 1st Petitioner in Jada, in present day Adamawa State of Nigeria was occasioned by the movement of his paternal grandfather called Atiku who was an itinerant trader, from Wu.mo in present day Sokoto State to Jada in the company of his friend, Ardo Usman.

“That in Jada, Atiku, the grandfather of the 1st Petitioner gave birth to Garba who in turn gave birth to the 1st Petitioner and named him after his own father Atiku.

“The 1st Petitioner’s mother, Aisha Kande was the grand-daughter of Inuwa Dutse who came to Jada as an itinerant trader too from Dutse in present day Jigawa State.[/b]

“That all averments concerning Germany, British Cameroons, League of Nations and Plebiscite are false and misleading in relation to the 1st Petitioner and therefore completely irrelevant more so that the 1st Petitioner is a Nigerian by birth within the contemplation of the Constitution of the Federal Republic ofNigeria, 1999 (as amended).

“The averments in the aforesaid paragraphs are indeed fabricated, contrived, made in bad faith and designed to embarrass the 1st Petitioner.

“In response to paragraph 7 of the 3rd Respondent’s Reply, the Petitioners aver that the votes of the 1st Petitioner in the Election of 23rd February, 2019

to the office of the President are not wasted votes, and the 1st Petitioner being a qualified candidate in the said Election indeed secured majority of lawful votes over and above the votes of the 2nd Respondent.

“In further reaction to Paragraph 7 of the 3rd Respondent Reply, the Petitioners hereby plead and contend that at all times material the he Atiku has been a Nigerian by birth and has participated in the following career and political activities and has also received the following awards and honours:

“That he was a civil servant in the Nigerian Customs Service for over 20 years and retired as a Deputy Director.

“That he has been a Nigerian politician for about 30 years and in 1992 he contested in the Presidential Primaries under the platform of then Social Democratic Party (SDP) alongside the late Chief M.K.O Abiola and Ambassador Baba Gana Kingibe.

” That he contested for and won the 1999 Gubernatorial election in Adamawa State under the platform of the 2nd Petitioner.

” That Former President Olusegun Obasanjo and himself contested for and won the 1999 and 2003 Presidential Elections, respectively as President and Vice President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria under the platform of Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), the 2nd Petitioner.

” The 1st Petitioner is the recipient of the National Honour of Grand Commander of the Order of the Niger (GCON).

“The 1st Petitioner was the traditional title holder of Turakin Adamawa from 1982 to 2017 when he was elevated to Wazirin Adamawa amongs other avarment to support his claims.

https://www.channelstv.com/2019/04/22/i-am-a-nigerian-atiku-replies-apc/amp/

Mere hearsays and speculations backed with no evidencial facts.no documentary proofs that his parents are nigerians,even his two witnessed failed him.he has failed to prove that hes a nigerian by birth.

all he needed to do was to present the dates of birth of his parents,friends or peer group of his parents,witnesses that knew his parents,his uncles and aunties,his date of birth and clear evidences that jada was never in cameroun.

I hail all the Senior Advocates of Nairaland. the real judgment the come soon make una wait.

garfield1:

Mere hearsays and speculations backed with no evidencial facts.no documentary proofs that his parents are nigerians,even his two witnessed failed him.he has failed to prove that hes a nigerian by birth.

all he needed to do was to present the dates of birth of his parents,friends or peer group of his parents,witnesses that knew his parents,his uncles and aunties,his date of birth and clear evidences that jada was never in cameroun.

It really shows that you did not folow the tribunal proceeding.

Sorry BMCO room was underground and you're sealed fr getting the update from the PEPT.

Sorry.

Its a sorry case that Buhari had been lying all the while undsr oath, his cup is now full

Op your sentimental opinion does not count, we wait for tribunal judgement.

garfield1:

This case will go the same way

Ignore Engineerboat. I have sampled the guy yesterday. He's not just wack but totally empty.
Just few days from now, Atiku case will be thrown out of court for lack of merit and frivolous claims. You can bookmark this thread

engineerboat:


Go back to sleep.

Seem sleep still dey worry you

You are the one that is expressing thoughts gathered from a non conscious state. Continue in your foolery, your food go soon done.

garfield1:

Mere hearsays and speculations backed with no evidencial facts.no documentary proofs that his parents are nigerians,even his two witnessed failed him.he has failed to prove that hes a nigerian by birth.

all he needed to do was to present the dates of birth of his parents,friends or peer group of his parents,witnesses that knew his parents,his uncles and aunties,his date of birth and clear evidences that jada was never in cameroun.

Let me teach you small

The Interpretation Act LFN 1999 Cap 192 Section 6 (1) provides:

6. (1) The repeal of an enactment shall not-

(a) revive anything not in force or existing at the when the repeal takes effect;

(b) affect the previous operation of the enactment anything duly done or suffered under the enactment.

(c) affect any right, privilege, obligation or liar accrued or incurred under the enactment;

The relevant clauses are section 6(1) (b) and (c). So the rights granted and privilege given to the folks in Adamawa remains and is preserved.


Take note

"the repeal of an enactment shall not affect any right, privilege, obligation or liability accrued or incurred under the enactment."


Atiku's Nigerian birthright accrued in 1961 (by the Instruments enacted pursuant to the Referendum) and in 1963 when it was 'enacted by reference' in the 1963 Constitution.

"Thus, the repeal of the 1963 Constitution by the 1999 Constitution did not affect his previously accrued or vested Nigerian birthright,"

Again for your information "under the doctrine of 'relation-back', being born in Nigeria means being born in a Nigeria that 'related-back' to include those born before 1960 in territories that later became part of Nigeria through Referendum, same territories having been named in the 1999 Constitution as amongst the States and LGAs that constitute Nigeria."

agabusta:



You are the one that is expressing thoughts gathered from a non conscious state. Continue in your foolery, your food go soon done.

You will dey alright las las

focus7:
Op your sentimental opinion does not count, we wait for tribunal judgement.

Thanks you.

Neeeexxxxt

garfield1:

This is balderdash,rubbish,hogwash.these were not from the form ec8a but from the electronic copy of atiku's server result.none of these copies or samples were shown to the court or demonstrated before the court during the witness testimonies,they were simply dumped on the court.no judge will go through all these hogwash.moreover,atiku and his witnesses have contradicted themselves in several fronts.

This is the thrust of the matter.

engineerboat:
APC failes to take note of even their own various court cases at the various levels.


Here are some few of those states

Your views are pedestrian and solely fit for comedy.
The court can't fill the blank spaces for you.
In a matter of weeks we will read the ruling of the PEPT and your dance steps will change.
None of Atiku's 63 witnesses offered a coherent unimpeachable testimony in court.
Atiku never called a single witness to attest to his citizenship and did not even mention it in their adopted closing briefs.
Every leg on which they premised their plea was shaky and decrepit.
Anyway you have a right to keep dreaming and continue this unending recourse to vigorous intellectual masturbation.
Atiku can't and won't cum!

garfield1:
You are becoming desperate.why not rest? You didsame during adeleke case and failed woefully.adeleke even had a stronger case but failed.how many threads do you want to open on this case? Is it insomnia that is driving you? Please go and sleep and stop disturbing people.
Cc afamed,yarimo,doyin2,ejimatic

Adeleke's case didn't fail woefully rather the alleged absence of a judge on a particular date was used to thwart justice under technicality of proceedings. It was. Never the fault of Adeleke's defense but judicial Flaw punished on the litigant!


It therefore goes without saying that #teamAtiku have a compelling case and we wait for the technicalities this time that buhari/apc have up their sleeves.

We expect split decision one way or the other not unanimous one.

Rochasstatue:


Your views are pedestrian and solely fit for comedy.
The court can't fill the blank spaces for you.
In a matter of weeks we will read the ruling of the PEPT and your dance steps will change.
None of Atiku's 63 witnesses offered a coherent unimpeachable testimony in court.
Atiku never called a single witness to attest to his citizenship and did not even mention it in their adopted closing briefs.
Every leg on which they premised their plea was shaky and decrepit.
Anyway you have a right to keep dreaming and continue this unending recourse to vigorous intellectual masturbation.
Atiku can't and won't cum!

Go and check PEPT 16th and 17th July proceedings.

It will cure uour ignorance

garfield1:

Mere hearsays and speculations backed with no evidencial facts.no documentary proofs that his parents are nigerians,even his two witnessed failed him.he has failed to prove that hes a nigerian by birth.

all he needed to do was to present the dates of birth of his parents,friends or peer group of his parents,witnesses that knew his parents,his uncles and aunties,his date of birth and clear evidences that jada was never in cameroun.

Inec/apc abandon their defense then went dismissive in their written addresses. Chai! Isn't it contradictory on your part demanding for witnesses in defense of Atiku's citizenship but, accept that Inec didn't have to quash Atiku's submissions and allegations regarding server,and wrongful collation by calling on its own witnesses.

It is now up to the PEPT to deliver judgement.

engineerboat:


Go and check PEPT 16th and 17th July proceedings.

It will cure uour ignorance

Don't mind them they ain't informed!

tuniski:


Adeleke's case didn't fail woefully rather the alleged absence of a judge on a particular date was used to thwart justice under technicality of proceedings. It was. Never the fault of Adeleke's defense but judicial Flaw punished on the litigant!


It therefore goes without saying that #teamAtiku have a compelling case and we wait for the technicalities this time that buhari/apc have up their sleeves.

We expect split decision one way or the other not unanimous one.

I Was getting to that.atiku did not present any good case except maybe in the qualifications of buhari.the ruling will not be unanimous,i see one or two judges ruling against buhari.i suspect that the tribunal chair will likely rule against buhari while the other 4 led by abdul aboki will rule for buhari.seems your far learned than this oluwole engineer

Afamed:

Ignore Engineerboat. I have sampled the guy yesterday. He's not just wack but totally empty.
Just few days from now, Atiku case will be thrown out of court for lack of merit and frivolous claims. You can bookmark this thread

Just like you sampled and insulted everyone on Kyari and FIRS in arrogant display of ignorance!

tuniski:



Inec/apc abandon their defense then went dismissive in their written addresses. Chai! Isn't it contradictory on your part demanding for witnesses in defense of Atiku's citizenship but, accept that Inec didn't have to quash Atiku's submissions and allegations regarding server,and wrongful collation by calling on its own witnesses.

It is now up to the PEPT to deliver judgement.

The server issue which might have called for inec presenting witnesses has been settled,only one witness talked about wrongful collation and the lawyers punctured his claim.

The most serious cases are that bordering on qualifications.before the tribunal considers atiku's petition,they will first look at all preliminary matters including the qualification of atiku.if he is not qualified,then the matter ends the.he needed to have prevented strong facts showing that he's a citizen by birth

garfield1:

I Was getting to that.atiku did not present any good case except maybe in the qualifications of buhari.the ruling will not be unanimous,i see one or two judges ruling against buhari.i suspect that the tribunal chair will likely rule against buhari while the other 4 led by abdul aboki will rule for buhari.seems your far learned than this oluwole engineer

Once the ruling at PEPT and supreme court ain't unanimous making the petition to be worthless, any fair minded person will find Satisfaction.

It will be earthquake for the PEPT to rule in favour of Atiku/PDP. In fact, the jubilation will be spontaneous across Nigeria not minding that the supreme Court may upturn it!!!!

So far, the petitioners have a compelling case irrespective of the make believe of buhari/apc/inec.

tuniski:

Just like you sampled and insulted everyone on Kyari and FIRS in arrogant display of ignorance!

Its not everytime you must support engineer canoe,try and be neutral.did you see me in the firs case?

tuniski:

Just like you sampled and insulted everyone on Kyari and FIRS in arrogant display of ignorance!

You are looking for soft landing right?

garfield1:

Its not everytime you must support engineer canoe,try and be neutral.did you see me in the firs case?

Igonre that boy, he is looking for soft landing

engineerboat:
Atiku’s legal team also played on them calling up and submitting electoral documents from every PU before the election, making the other side believe this was to compare the manually collated results with the electronically collated ones; but then shifting to just 12 states.

So basically, the results challenged at the PEPT by the Atiku team are from states where Buhari was allocated massive votes:

Bauchi
Borno
Gombe
Jigawa
Kaduna
Kano
Katsina
Kebbi
Nasarawa
Niger
Yobe and
Zamfara.

.....na so
Atiku will emerge victorious .........






But in Cameroon

engineerboat:


Let me teach you small

The Interpretation Act LFN 1999 Cap 192 Section 6 (1) provides:

6. (1) The repeal of an enactment shall not-

(a) revive anything not in force or existing at the when the repeal takes effect;

(b) affect the previous operation of the enactment anything duly done or suffered under the enactment.

(c) affect any right, privilege, obligation or liar accrued or incurred under the enactment;

The relevant clauses are section 6(1) (b) and (c). So the rights granted and privilege given to the folks in Adamawa remains and is preserved.


Take note

"the repeal of an enactment shall not affect any right, privilege, obligation or liability accrued or incurred under the enactment."


Atiku's Nigerian birthright accrued in 1961 (by the Instruments enacted pursuant to the Referendum) and in 1963 when it was 'enacted by reference' in the 1963 Constitution.

"Thus, the repeal of the 1963 Constitution by the 1999 Constitution did not affect his previously accrued or vested Nigerian birthright,"

Again for your information "under the doctrine of 'relation-back', being born in Nigeria means being born in a Nigeria that 'related-back' to include those born before 1960 in territories that later became part of Nigeria through Referendum, same territories having been named in the 1999 Constitution as amongst the States and LGAs that constitute Nigeria."

Did you teach me anything in osun? Am the teacher and will always tutor you.

If atiku presented the above,it means that he has conceded to not being a citizen by birth but now expecting the tribunal to use this outdated provision to rescue him.funny enough,it still doesnt make him a citizen by birth

garfield1:
You are becoming desperate.why not rest? You didsame during adeleke case and failed woefully.adeleke even had a stronger case but failed.how many threads do you want to open on this case? Is it insomnia that is driving you? Please go and sleep and stop disturbing people.
Cc afamed,yarimo,doyin2,ejimatic

.do not mind the dude
He is fooling himself
Na who vote atiku for north?
Atiku barou doller

garfield1:

Did you teach me anything in osun? Am the teacher and will always tutor you.

If atiku presented the above,it means that he has conceded to not being a citizen by birth but now expecting the tribunal to use this outdated provision to rescue him.funny enough,it still doesnt make him a citizen by birth

Check up 15th, 16th, 17th pept proceedings

It will cure this your ignorance.

You have been provided with two valid proceedings and authority at the tribunal on this case.

You can asked your supervisor at BMCO underground hole to get you the video.

You will dey alright las las