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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 9:12pm On Aug 23, 2019
The most balanced midfield we've had in recent times in terms of profile has to be the 2013 AFCON mid of Mikel, Onazi and Sunday Mba.
Mikel as the DLP dictating play from deep
Onazi as the destroyer buzzing around to break up play
MBA as the box to box midfielder making those late 3rd man runs into the penalty box.
It's a shame we haven't been able to find that balance in midfield since then.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zoboizee: 9:12pm On Aug 23, 2019
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:12pm On Aug 23, 2019
groundnutoil:
so no one is talking about how they murdered naija u20 4-1 today

No they played a draw and are into the semifinals.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 9:15pm On Aug 23, 2019
groundnutoil:
so no one is talking about how they murdered naija u20 4-1 today


Where did u get dis info from bro

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 9:20pm On Aug 23, 2019
Guess who just came on.. Alexander Iwobi!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 9:24pm On Aug 23, 2019
Earthquake1:


'Holding' is a football term different from its real life definition

Holding in footballing terms means retention, hugging defines what you mean
Not in the context you were putting it in regards of Etebo.
We all know what it means in terms of positioning. You can't use the term "ball holding" to describe someone who is only good at dictating play.
Saying Etebo is not a good "ball holder" doesn't make sense based on your definition. He can/does retain possession by his ball carrying skills/"hugging of the ball" but he doesn't keep the ball ticking aka dictating play.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 9:28pm On Aug 23, 2019
edi287:

Not in the context you were putting it in regards of Etebo.
We all know what it means in terms of positioning. You can't use the term "ball holding" to describe someone who is only good at dictating play.
Saying Etebo is not a good "ball holder" doesn't make sense based on your definition. He can/does retain possession by his ball carrying skills/"hugging of the ball" but he doesn't keep the ball ticking aka dictating play.

Ok he loses possession many times, his pass accuracy is low

How can you then describe him as a ball holder?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 9:35pm On Aug 23, 2019
Ehizibue was caught ball napping as Hakimi comes from behind to head in what might be the winner. He had a stellar performance tonight but that cheeky mistake may have undone all his right.
There's always a lesson to take home
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 9:40pm On Aug 23, 2019
Iwobi hits the crossbar

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 9:41pm On Aug 23, 2019
Earthquake1:


Ok he loses possession many times, his pass accuracy is low

How can you then describe him as a ball holder?
He hardly losses possession that much. Rohr is misusing him by playing him as the deepest option.
Funny enough, Whoscored contradicts both of us...

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 9:43pm On Aug 23, 2019
Earthquake1:
Iwobi hits the crossbar

Dat one is called the Post bro, not cross bar. Cross bar na the one wey dey stay for up binding the two posts

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 9:46pm On Aug 23, 2019
Earthquake1:


Let's settle our doubts grin
I knew you were going to copy this particular point from google lol. You fell for it

Holding midfielder and Ball holder are not same. Consult the link I sent you. It broke down different jobs done by different midfielders.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 9:47pm On Aug 23, 2019
Alex Iwobi dey ball hooooooha!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 9:49pm On Aug 23, 2019
edi287:

He hardly losses possession that much. Rohr is misusing him by playing him as the deepest option.
Funny enough, Whoscored contradicts both of us...

Throughballs grin I can't remember an Etebo assist in a long time

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:53pm On Aug 23, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Alex Iwobi dey ball hooooooha!

grin grin grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 9:54pm On Aug 23, 2019
Should Iwobi maintain consistency, then it would be a no brainer to build this team around him. He is a class above his team mates

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 9:56pm On Aug 23, 2019
somehow:

I knew you were going to copy this particular point from google lol. You fell for it

Holding midfielder and Ball holder are not same. Consult the link I sent you. It broke down different jobs done by different midfielders.

The post was listing qualities a DLP should have which is classed under 'retention'

Basically a DLP should be a good ball holder

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 9:56pm On Aug 23, 2019
Aston Vila and Norwich play very purposeful, entertaining attacking football

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 9:56pm On Aug 23, 2019
Very classy player. His touches, passes and dribbles are classy. He will surely make a name for himself in the colors of the toffess
ChrisKels:
Should Iwobi maintain consistency, then it would be a no brainer to build this team around him. He is a class above his team mates

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Prectega(m): 9:57pm On Aug 23, 2019
Iwobi balled today .. U don't see any reason y he won't start the next game

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DrLikita12(f): 9:57pm On Aug 23, 2019
Humility017:


your knowledge and love for the NPFL is too notch...

I can't say you should keep it up sha. ..because that league spoil eyes, it kills interest in football...
keep watching it with care please....

trust you're good and your day wasn't stressful?

grin
I've never actually watched a live NPFL match in person or online grin

My day was wonderful, hope yours was too
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 9:58pm On Aug 23, 2019
Earthquake1:


Throughballs grin I can't remember an Etebo assist in a long time
Maybe they weren't converted??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 10:01pm On Aug 23, 2019
cheesy through balls ko!
edi287:

Maybe they weren't c smileyonverted??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 10:02pm On Aug 23, 2019
edi287:

Maybe they weren't converted??

Funny
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:09pm On Aug 23, 2019
Earthquake1:


You have no evidence to prove what you have just said, maybe it's his lack of abilities is restricting him to defensive contributions

Is Rohr also restricting him to defensive midfield at Stoke city, if he played so well at the world cup was he remembered for his abilities WITH the ball like(assists, commanding the midfield or goals?)

Or was he remembered for his abilities WITHOUT the ball like (energy, tenacity and marking)

Etebo doesn't.play defensive midfield role at Stoke .he doesn't play as a defensive midfielder for the super eagles either but as a deep lying CM..the role Mikel was supposed to play...
Rohr is found of using two deep lying midfielders..before Onazi got dropped from the team,he was starting alongside Ndidi...two DMs at the same time...where would the creativity come from when the wingers themselves are always instructed to track back?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 10:11pm On Aug 23, 2019
ChrisKels:


Dat one is called the Post bro, not cross bar. Cross bar na the one wey dey stay for up binding the two posts

Continue to follow and correct my posts, bet that's all you'll amount to in life
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 10:18pm On Aug 23, 2019
Danielnino00:


Etebo doesn't.play defensive midfield role at Stoke .he doesn't play as a defensive midfielder for the super eagles either but as a deep lying CM..the role Mikel was supposed to play...
Rohr is found of using two deep lying midfielders..before Onazi got dropped from the team,he was starting alongside Ndidi...two DMs at the same time...where would the creativity come from when the wingers themselves are always instructed to track back?

Etebo's role was not the reason he wasn't able to maintain possession, he played throughout the Afcon but couldn't dominate possession

He had Ndidi as an excellent cover and you're giving excuses why he couldn't dominate midfield

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:29pm On Aug 23, 2019
Earthquake1:


Etebo's role was not the reason he wasn't able to maintain possession, he played throughout the Afcon but couldn't dominate possession

He had Ndidi as an excellent cover and you're giving excuses why he couldn't dominate midfield

Where did I mention dominating the midfield? Etebo's pace and stamina makes him more useful as a box to box midfielder than a deep lying CM ..He proved that with las Palmas in laliga.. He can do much better in the national team if he is given a free role...Rohr is always using employing a double pivot midfield... Imagine if he decided to use Aribo in that role too? It would limit his performance and we may start saying "he isn't good", " he is overrated ".

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:30pm On Aug 23, 2019
oh boy this Villarreal team na wash...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:32pm On Aug 23, 2019
andrew44444:


Renato sanches, i once said this dude is overrated and i was right

If not that he is still a kid, the dude is not supposed to worth more than 8 million euros

I still remain a huge fan of Renato Sanches. The young man is gracious on the ball and I feel he is under utilised. He needs a side that will allow him have a lot of touches. A side that plays possessive football. Then he will flourish. Wish him the best at Lille.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 10:33pm On Aug 23, 2019
Earthquake1:


The post was listing qualities a DLP should have which is classed under 'retention'

Basically a DLP should be a good ball holder

Etebo is not a DLP. He's more in the front than the back when CM roles are divided. once again consult the link I sent you.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 10:36pm On Aug 23, 2019
Danielnino00:


Etebo doesn't.play defensive midfield role at Stoke .he doesn't play as a defensive midfielder for the super eagles either but as a deep lying CM..the role Mikel was supposed to play...
Rohr is found of using two deep lying midfielders..before Onazi got dropped from the team,he was starting alongside Ndidi...two DMs at the same time...where would the creativity come from when the wingers themselves are always instructed to track back?

Etebo goes forward most of the time leaving Ndidi behind (especially when Iwobi switches off)

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