bingbagbo:


Oh so you believe Jesus is Lord?.

Psalm 18:31

For who is God besides the LORD? And who is the Rock except our God?



1 Corinthians 10:4
And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

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EnthronedbyGod:



Did you call me out to argue or to know the truth.
If it's to argue count me out.

Pusyiter:
Understand Divine protocols
God came out of God and made a declaration of the first Begotten.
Jn1:12 made us to understand that we are also begotten of God that makes us sons of God
Anything that comes out of the Almighty does not make it less of the Almighty.
Out of the Almighty God came out an Almighty He termed His Son.
[color=#000000][/color]Even in logic, positive plus positive is positive. Nothing less, nothing more.

OnPointMan:


Lol. And, who is disputting the lordship of Jesus?

Preciousgirl:
OK,
Answer my questions too

1. Who in the Bible ever said, if you see me you have seen the father?
2 Who in the Bible ever claimed he and God are one?
3.Who in the Bible was with God in the beginning and was God?
4.Who in the new testament after Jesus ascension was talking with men from heaven
5*Why are Believers commanded to do all things in Jesus name
6Who in the Bible claimed he is the first and the last
7Who is the World waiting to come?
8Who created all things according to the Bible?
9 who in the Bible shared glory with God before the foundations of the World
10 Who was worshipped even when he was a baby
11who in the Bible died and resurrected on his own
12 who died for your sins?
13 Who is Lord of the sabbath?
14 Who sits at the right hand of power?
15At the mention of which name do all knees in heaven and on earth bow?
16 Who walked on the sea in the Bible
17 Which child would be born according to Isaiah 9:6 and would be called Mighty God and Everlasting father?
18 Who else calls himself I AM?
19Who forgives sins?
20 Whose blood redeemed. Man?

I am waiting for your answers

Janosky:

Question 10,you say 3 men "worship" Jesus,Matt4:10, who did Jesus Christ tell you to worship ?
(If you can't understand how Greek "proskeneo" fits the context of Matt4:10 (as in Matt22:37, serve Jehovah with your everything) and Matt2:11 (pay homage not worship),you're get it wrong.

Your Question 17 get comma.
@1)
Is the Almighty God YHWH a child ?
You see how you dey reason !


Please study Acts2:36. John 5:26. Matt28:18.
Just mention 1 thing that Jesus has which he said he never received from his Father and God.
You should ask yourself :
@2)
What does Jesus have, that he did not receive?

@3)
Who is the God and Father of Jesus in heaven?
@4)
When Jesus in heaven says "my Father, "my God " (Rev3:2,5,12. John 14:28),what does Jesus mean?

If you honestly answer these question, you have already discovered the real answers to your 20 questions.

OnPointMan:


Do you mean that the Almighty was flogged and nailed to the cross. Wouldn't that be ridiculous?

Maximus69:


The phrase "Only begotten son" means the only person DIRECTLY created by God! Proverbs 8:22

All other creatures were made through a craftsman {Proverbs 8:30} who was taking instructions from a greater Person! 1Corinthians 15: 27-28

What confused most readers is the rendering of John 1:1, which had various renderings. But since most Churchgoers are following the traditional teachings of the TRINITY it becomes a problem for them to resolve the big issue!

Jesus WAS a God just as Moses WAS a God, the only difference here is while Jesus has been faithfully and loyally serving his God {John 20:17} right from the time he existed as a spirit being, Moses served under the direction of same God as a smaller God only during his time in Egypt! Exodus 7:1

There is nowhere in the Bible where Jesus directly referred to himself as God Almighty, he is always referred to as a mighty God {Isaiah 9:6} and other spirit sons of God were also referred to as Gods and Mighty Psalm 82:1

Jesus always does whatever his God/Father wishes, so if you've been with Jesus in the flesh, examining his thoughts, listening to his words, watching his actions and reactions towards everything, surely you're seeing exactly what Jesus' father {the Almighty God} would have done had it been he is here in person! John 14:9-10 compared to 1Corinthians 2:16

EnthronedbyGod:



Did you call me out to argue or to know the truth.
If it's to argue count me out.

Janosky:


Gbagbo liar !
A name or title ascribed to different individuals NEVER means they are one and the same person.
For instance, Mary, Pharaoh, Elishama, Saul etc

Janosky:

Question 10,you say 3 men "worship" Jesus,Matt4:10, who did Jesus Christ tell you to worship ?
(If you can't understand how Greek "proskeneo" fits the context of Matt4:10 (as in Matt22:37, serve Jehovah with your everything) and Matt2:11 (pay homage not worship),you're get it wrong.

Your Question 17 get comma.
@1)
Is the Almighty God YHWH a child ?
You see how you dey reason !

Please study Acts2:36. John 5:26. Matt28:18.
Just mention 1 thing that Jesus has which he said he never received from his Father and God.
You should ask yourself :
@2)
What does Jesus have, that he did not receive?

@3)
Who is the God and Father of Jesus in heaven?
@4)
When Jesus in heaven says "my Father, "my God " (Rev3:2,5,12. John 14:28),what does Jesus mean?

If you honestly answer these question, you have already discovered the real answers to your 20 questions.

OnPointMan:


Thank you my brother. I agree with your assertion totally. Jesus definitely is a mighty God, but not the ALMIGHTY God.

God bless you.

Emusan:


Since you agree that Jesus is a Mighty God!

Is Jesus a lesser God?
Is Jesus a false God?

So how many God do you have?

Janosky:


Psalm 18 American Standard Version (ASV)
Jehovah praised for giving victory and dominion.
For the Chief Musician. A Psalm of David the servant of Jehovah, [a]who spake unto Jehovah the words of this song in the day that Jehovah delivered him from the hand of all his enemies, and from the hand of Saul: and he said,
18 I love thee, O Jehovah, my strength.
2 Jehovah is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer;
My God, my rock, in whom I will take refuge;
My shield, and the horn of my salvation, my high tower.
3 I will call upon Jehovah, who is worthy to be praised:
So shall I be saved from mine enemies.
4 The cords of death compassed me,
And the floods of ungodliness made me afraid.
5 The cords of Sheol were round about me;
The snares of death came upon me.
6 In my distress I called upon Jehovah,
And cried unto my God:
He heard my voice out of his temple,
And my cry before him came into his ears."
31.
For who is God, save Jehovah?
[b]And who is a rock, besides our God"

@Gbagbo LIAR, Psalms 18 and 1Cor10:4 are saying different things,no connection.
Except you're LYING that David was among the Israelites in Numbers 20:11.....

In Numbers chapter 20, YHWH is NOT a mere piece of Rock., rather that YHWH presence was with His people...
In 1Cor10:4, Jesus was proof of Jehovah's presence to save mankind (1John 4:14).
Crooked Gbagbo Pharisee.....

OnPointMan:


Someone has provided a chapter from the book of revelation Rev 3:12 which shows Jesus still has a God even in heaven.

My brother, there's difference between a mighty God and the Almighty God.

Emusan:


@1)
Where did you see 3 MEN in that post, robot

See what desperation is causing and how is damaging your spiritual life.

All just because you want to continue to wallow in your delusions and ignorance.

@2
Who are you to decide how "proskeneo" should fit in the scripture?

What is your qualification in Greek language before you can tell how a Greek work should fit?





Now it gets comma, simply because it exposes your evil doctrines.

@4)
How many God do you have if Jesus is a Mighty God according to Isaiah 9:6?




@5)
Jesus said "HE HAD GLORY WITH THE FATHER EVEN BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN"

He didn't say He received the glory!

@6 )
He said "So that ALL MEN(unless you're not a man) should HONOR the Son, EVEN AS they Honor the Father"

In anyway you've been honoring Jehovah, Jesus says you should do the same for Him.

You can twist this verse as you want but the truth will always remain the truth irrespective of how it is.


@7)
Jesus is still a man in heaven (I believe you've been told this times without number, even though your polluted watchtower mind couldn't allow you to accept)

Apostle Paul says "There is only one mediator between God and man, The MAN Jesus"

Jesus demonstrated many times to His disciples that He resurrected bodily...

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Apostle Paul explains that the resurrection the Saints will experience is fashion after that of Christ....


So are you saying people who will resurrect will become a spirit being as you're propagating about Christ?

jesusjnr:
Hey bro. What's up?

I think you're err greatly equating David to Jesus, even though you don't believe Jesus was the Almighty God, because this was what David himself said of Jesus:

Psalms 110:1 (KJV)

The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Now you can clearly see that David called Him his Lord, so he cannot be accorded the same status as Jesus.

And also through this saying of David, you can distinguish the difference between God and His only begotten Son and thereby get what my opinion is of the Holy Two.

For I think Jesus is God and Lord, but not God Almighty and LORD for Jesus Himself said, "My Father is greater than I"{John 14:8}, so someone greater than He was could not the same as Him even though they are One.

A similar saying to that of David is this of John:

John 1:1 (KJV)

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

So the Word which was also God was with God Almighty.

God Bless.

bingbagbo:



@1)
To JWs they have two Gods, a mighty God (Angel Michael) and Almighty God (Jehovah)

@2)
even demons believe there is one God.

[3)
Jesus Christ is God Almighty
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OnPointMan:


Someone has provided a chapter from the book of revelation Rev 3:12 which shows Jesus still has a God even in heaven.

My brother, there's difference between a mighty God and the Almighty God.

Janosky:
@1)
Matt 2:1-11. I'm not here to spoonfeed U. U done forget your so-called "3 wise men"?

@2. Matt2:2
*American King James Version
Saying, Where is he that is born King of the
Jews? for we have seen his star in the east,
and are come to worship him.

*Douay-Rheims Bible
Saying, Where is he that is born king of the
Jews? For we have seen his star in the east,
and are come to adore him.
*Darby Bible Translation
Where is the king of the Jews that has been
born? for we have seen his star in the east,
and have come to do him homage.

*Weymouth New Testament
inquiring, "Where is the newly born king of
the Jews? For we have seen his Star in the
east, and have come here to do him
homage."

*Young's Literal Translation
saying, 'Where is he who was born king of
the Jews? for we saw his star in the east,
and we came to bow to him.'

@Janosky, continue being foolish.

Janosky:
@4)
Joshua 22:22, YHWH is the mighty God.
Isaiah 9:6 Jesus is a mighty God.
Psalms 82:1,6. Man is a mighty God.
how many mighty Gods are there?

@5). Why are you so daft?
John5:26. Jesus says "Just as the Father has life in himself, so HE has GRANTED the son to have life in himself"
Without Life the Father GRANTED His son, the son's glory na banza !!
Jesus says he received EVERYTHING from his Father. Matt28:18. John 5:26. Acts2:36.
Do you believe Jesus words?
Janosky, block your sense!!

@6).
"That all men should honour the son even as they honour the Father".
PROOF that the Son had no honour from men UNTIL his Father's APPROVAL and command to men.

@7). LIAR.
Jesus sacrificial death paved the way for his mediation between God & man, that's the sermon of Paul to Timothy.
Paul NEVER said Jesus is a man in heaven.
The last Adam & life giving spirit,Jesus Christ is the first fruits of those resurrected from death to heavenly life. Flesh and blood can not inherit heavenly life. 1Cor15:20-50.

Janosky, the brainwashed JWs stop being deluded.

OpenYourEyes1:


I love number 10 and 17. Well done sister!

Janosky:
cc: Emusan...

@4)
Joshua 22:22, YHWH is the mighty God.
Isaiah 9:6 Jesus is a mighty God.
Psalms 82:1,6. Man is a mighty God.
Emusan, how many mighty Gods are there?

@5). Why are you so daft?
John5:26. Jesus says "Just as the Father has life in himself, so HE has GRANTED the son to have life in himself"

Without Life the Father GRANTED His son, the son's glory na banza !!

Jesus says he received EVERYTHING from his Father. Matt28:18. John 5:26. Acts2:36.
Do you believe Jesus words?
Emusan, receive sense!!


@6).
"That all men should honour the son even as they honour the Father".
PROOF that the Son had no honour from men UNTIL his Father's APPROVAL and command to men.

@7). LIAR.
Jesus sacrificial death paved the way for his mediation between God & man, that's the sermon of Paul to Timothy.
Paul NEVER said Jesus is a man in heaven.
The last Adam & life giving spirit,Jesus Christ is the first fruits of those resurrected from death to heavenly life. Flesh and blood can not inherit heavenly life. 1Cor15:20-50.

Emusan Pharisees, stop lying.

OnPointMan:


Calm down my brother, you are too emotional. Am a Christian too. I just don't believe Jesus is the Almighty. if you think he is, make me understand what i read pls.

HedwigesMaduro:

This, above is the exact way I see God Almighty's relationship with Christ as stated in the scriptures. God bless you bro.

movingclouds:
Here's where the mystery of Trinity is... Since you're making use of the Bible in this argument (which means the Bible is a valid book in our discussion).. We begin from the book of Genesis... The first verse made mention of a spirit, The Spirit of God... The second verse made mention of a Word.. Verse 2; And God said(Word).. There we found three Subjects doing the same function of creation,God, His Spirit and His Word.
Now still making use of the book of Genesis where the creation of man was written (For according to the scriptural record, only man was made in His image). The question is, what's the Image of God? Does the image talk about God's look? My answer is a "no". Man is made up of three entities, the body, spirit and soul.

When Jesus said "I and my Father is one", He knew what He was saying. God's Spirit is God, God's Word is God, but both depend on the Head, God the Father. We can argue till forever that Jesus isn't God using Bible passages, but none of those passages counter Jesus's God attribute. When he talked about the cup passing over, he showed the attribute of the flesh. That's how it feels when u stand before sin and your spirit tells u not to do it but you end up doing it. Jesus felt the same way, but He was able to overcome that saying "thy will be done". To learn more about the Trinity, read the book of John

Emusan:


@1)
Where in that psalms says Man is a mighty God?

@2
Besides, my question is how many God do you have?
Is Jesus a lesser God or a false God?

@3 )
If both man and Jesus are Mighty God, what is the fuss about Isaiah message telling the world that another MIGHTY GOD is coming.

@4)

You asked that we should show you what Jesus didn't receive, when I show you where Jesus said He had glory with the Father you resort to abuse. Where are your senses?
The Father granted the Son to have life when He became part of creation and received everything from His Father during this time....

Jesus Himself is The Eternal Life, how can Eternal life be created or given life again




@5)

Since the Father approved it, have you been HONORING THE Son EVEN AS you honor Jehovah?

Or the command wasn't from Jehovah whom you claim to be obeying?

Don't dodge this part very crucial!


@6)
So you means Christ is not mediating for man again

Christ is in heaven mediating for people, so Apostle Paul called Him MAN not a spirit!


@7)

Besides, I said resurrection of the saints is patterned after that of Christ, is everyone going to resurrect as a spirit as you claim about Jesus.

Emusan:

Since you agree that Jesus is a Mighty God!
Is Jesus a lesser God? Is Jesus a false God?
So how many God do you have?

Emusan:


Where did you see 3 MEN in that post, robot

See what desperation is causing and how is damaging your spiritual life.

All just because you want to continue to wallow in your delusions and ignorance.

Who are you to decide how "proskeneo" should fit in the scripture?

What is your qualification in Greek language before you can tell how a Greek work should fit?

Now it gets comma, simply because it exposes your evil doctrines.

How many God do you have if Jesus is a Mighty God according to Isaiah 9:6?

Jesus said "HE HAD GLORY WITH THE FATHER EVEN BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN"


He didn't say He received the glory!

He said "So that ALL MEN(unless you're not a man) should HONOR the Son, EVEN AS they Honor the Father"

In anyway you've been honoring Jehovah, Jesus says you should do the same for Him.

You can twist this verse as you want but the truth will always remain the truth irrespective of how it is.

Jesus is still a man in heaven (I believe you've been told this times without number, even though your polluted watchtower mind couldn't allow you to accept)

Apostle Paul says "There is only one mediator between God and man, The MAN Jesus"


Jesus demonstrated many times to His disciples that He resurrected bodily...


Apostle Paul explains that the resurrection the Saints will experience is fashion after that of Christ....


So are you saying people who will resurrect will become a spirit being as you're propagating about Christ?

Barristter07:
When the KJV applied " Worship " to humans, Hope you agreed with that as well?

EL - Gibboa translated Mighty God at Isaiah 9:6 was applied to Humans , agree?

"
to behold my Glory THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN ME " John 17:24

Do u admit you lied ? #coded C45

And How does this make Jesus equal to HIS GOD or Make him Almighty?

You lied, Jesus resurrected with a spiritual body, Is a spiritual body physical ?

Since the acclaimed Jesus body has wounds and scars and ressurection is to be Fashioned after , Do you agree it means people will be resurrected with their scars, hunch backs and other disabilities ?

Barristter07:
Are humans not refferred to as El Giboa?