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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 10:31am On Aug 25, 2019
eph12:

Use greenwood use greenwood.
Ok. He should keep on using Lingard?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by metodman(m): 10:44am On Aug 25, 2019
larride:



Any manager that look at that midfield and attack and feels comfortable deserve the sack
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by spillo1: 10:54am On Aug 25, 2019
We need a midfield full stop.


Pogba is great obviously but he's something of a luxury player if you want consistency out of him (he does have the odd extremely boss game but those are few and far between) unless you surround him with quality. Pogba is the only source of creativity and when he screws up, the whole team does because there’s no one else to step up.

Mata is past it, Lingard isn't good enough, Perreira is a bit of a non factor, Fred is crap, Matic is past it and Garner & Gomes are only children.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by spillo1: 11:00am On Aug 25, 2019
This coach deceived Us.

Ole as a permanent Manchester United manager
3 wins 3 draws 7 defeats
23% win rate.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by diggz: 11:07am On Aug 25, 2019
Leyqute:


Ogbeni shut up your mouth ojare. I criticized all of them in that same post you quoted.

You criticized everybody in that post and your apere keeper no dey inside, your Ole legend dey missing too, but make we blame the celebration of james king Kong for the L in front your moniker and the one wey manU chop, no be so? Atole Oshe aka Mr shalayecheesy cheesy cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 11:07am On Aug 25, 2019
larride:


Mancini City beat SAF 6 - 1. Does that mean Mancini is better than SAF.

Even that year when Pep went trophyless, you could clearly see the way they were playing. They were not struggling to create chances, they create bucket load of chances, scored goals and concede as much as they scored. It was obvious the defense was the issue and the next season, he fixed that up. Now he has won the league back to back and will prolly do the 3 peat.

Ole style of play is counter attacking, there’s no point trying to lie to ourselves that it isn’t. Go look at all the match we won under him and see how the goals came by.

Counter attacking is not a bad style of play, but you must get the necessary players to execute the style of play and this is where the blame is on Ole.

You actually can’t say that OLE’s style of play is counterattacks cos that’s how he won games last season.

This season is when we’ll know how he really wants to play. It’s how he played against Wolves and against Palace. No wins but that’s how he wants to play.

And it isn’t counterattack.

And he hasn’t gotten it spot on. That will take time.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 11:08am On Aug 25, 2019
eph12:

What wing/role is he going to play? A creator?

He’ll play on the RW and create chances from there. Leave one of Martial or Rashford out. They’re both inconsistent.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 11:10am On Aug 25, 2019
eph12:

Counter attack style has 70+ possession? This is new. The current players are suited for which style sef?

Abi o grin

70% possession is counterattack.

Possession football wey Rashford and co never play in 3 years. It’ll take time before they adjust.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 11:11am On Aug 25, 2019
Lana1:
Ok. He should keep on using Lingard?
Greenwood shouldn't be the one to replace Lingard. He can replace either of the front 3, Martial, Rash or James and not Lingard. That's a creative midfielder position. Unless Greenwood is one, I don't see how that would change anything.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by EarlRagnar2(m): 11:12am On Aug 25, 2019
Person dey use Welsh bajaj rashford and lingard and u talk say he no play counter
Na here we go dey
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 11:13am On Aug 25, 2019
Leyqute:


He’ll play on the RW and create chances from there. Leave one of Martial or Rashford out. They’re both inconsistent.
Exactly what I was trying to point out to Lana. I'm not sure greenwood can play that role Lingard is currently playing and for someone so young, it may affect his growth
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 11:18am On Aug 25, 2019
larride:


Have you forgotten the arguments we had concerning this last season?

The words we were hearing last season was “Mou is holding them back” “Mou is too defensive minded” “Mou is not allowing them to enjoy themselves”. It’s very painful I’m not too good with digging out post. Even the Maguire we bought this season, I remember Mou going for him and the wailing that accompany it. grin

Maybe postdigger can help.


Any manager that look at that midfield and attack and feels comfortable deserve the sack.

Larride things go click no worry. There are a number of positives- we’ll get it right.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LegoMetahuman: 11:19am On Aug 25, 2019
Lamentation FC

cheesy cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 11:21am On Aug 25, 2019
diggz:


You criticized everybody in that post and your apere keeper no dey inside, your Ole legend dey missing too, but make we blame the celebration of james king Kong for the L in front your moniker and the one wey manU chop, no be so? Atole Oshe aka Mr shalayecheesy cheesy cheesy

Keeper dey concede goals, na normal thing. Coach go do him own, e remain make players do their own for pitch.

Epa Diggz u sure say dem no dey disturb your thinking network for village so? grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 11:23am On Aug 25, 2019
eph12:

Exactly what I was trying to point out to Lana. I'm not sure greenwood can play that role Lingard is currently playing and for someone so young, it may affect his growth

He can’t. Not at this stage.

Perreira can manage in that position and Gomes has a good chance of excelling there.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 11:26am On Aug 25, 2019
eph12:

Left to me, Pogba has no business playing from deep. He's our most creative player, probably the only one. In France there's grizzy, Mbappe etc that can create something out of nothing. We don't have that here. He should be part of the front 3 or just behind them, not from deep
man u board Na fool. Even me wey nor Dey support Man U know say pogba struggles when used as cm or box to box. Them suppose don sign quality cm so that pogba can play where he is good at which is attacking midfielder

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by diggz: 11:29am On Aug 25, 2019
Leyqute:


Keeper dey concede goals, na normal thing. Coach go do him own, e remain make players do their own for pitch.

Epa Diggz u sure say dem no dey disturb your thinking network for village so? grin

You sabi this one but wan kill pikin wey never learn how to waka finish,abi?

Mc shalaye! The palace win don do severe damage to your brain finish cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 11:30am On Aug 25, 2019
larride:


Have you forgotten the arguments we had concerning this last season?

The words we were hearing last season was “Mou is holding them back” “Mou is too defensive minded” “Mou is not allowing them to enjoy themselves”. It’s very painful I’m not too good with digging out post. Even the Maguire we bought this season, I remember Mou going for him and the wailing that accompany it. grin

Maybe postdigger can help.


Any manager that look at that midfield and attack and feels comfortable deserve the sack.
We controlled the game but players weren't daring last season. You had a coach that will leave you out to dry in the press if you make a mistake, how do you want to go all out and try something? The team was playing like they are strangers, from defense to attack. They couldn't string passes, they didn't understand each other. There was already a feeling of two sides in the dressing room. The ones that would always get the stick vs the ones that could do no wrong.

You're an old timer here but have refused to see reason. Common sense should let us know that no coach will be pleased with this current team, definitely not OGS. But because he didn't say so in the press you are pissed at him. He gave young the captain and threw him to the bench. The same Rojo that they claim is in OGS plans is who is looking for another club. Jones and Smalling are no where near the first team. He doesn't say anything negative in the press, that's who he is but he is working behind the scene to effect the changes. This is only quantum physics to those that have sworn not to see reason.

He wants players but the club is weary of being taken advantage of. This project is a work in progress and will take some time. I'm pissed that we couldn't settle the RW and CM positions but we have to look carefully at what the club is doing and understand it.

The same Mourinho that said he was pleased with Lukaku performance at the left back position is who you want us to use as reference. He never criticized Lukaku, Smalling, Young, but was always on Pogba, Martial and Shaw case. Please he is gone, amen to that

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 11:32am On Aug 25, 2019
hensben:
man u board Na fool. Even me wey nor Dey support Man U know say pogba struggles when used as cm or box to box. Them suppose don sign quality cm so that pogba can play where he is good at which is attacking midfielder
It's even worse when you consider that he's the only creative player in the team. He's strong, he can draw fowls, he can beat his man and he has nice through passes. Yes he loses the ball but with two guys behind him good at retrieving and passing, Pogba will do well. They went to bring Fred that can't pass
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 11:37am On Aug 25, 2019
diggz:


You sabi this one but wan kill pikin wey never learn how to waka finish,abi?

Mc shalaye! The palace win don do severe damage to your brain finish cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

EPA diggz leave me alone I still dey mourn
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 11:42am On Aug 25, 2019
Leyqute:


Abi o grin

70% possession is counterattack.

Possession football wey Rashford and co never play in 3 years. It’ll take time before they adjust.
I remember when Scolari joined Chelsea, and wanted them to play a certain way, they were dropping points everywhere. It wasn't that the players were not good, but they needed time to get used to that style. These things take time. It took Liverpool time to get here. City has been winning the league almost every two years before Pep came. He still changed almost everybody in the team. Just look at that bench. How anybody will think OGS doesn't want that is very strange to me. But this is the position of the club, they're now being too careful in the tw. Probably because of all the bad transfers they have had in the last couple of years. We can't even sell our players, nobody wants them unless for some ridiculous amounts. Hopefully Sanchez comes back and fits into that Lingard position.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:50am On Aug 25, 2019
At the end of the day, it was Lindelof who made us to lose the match. He lost a due that even an Okomu oil defender will not lose. Before then it was a matter of time before the defence of Palace collapse. We only saw DDG once when Lindelof made a back pass to him.

How no defender was sweeping behind the other as we held possession, baffles me.

Smalling would never have lost that due. Lindelof needs to be roughed a bit.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:53am On Aug 25, 2019
I am sure Maguire was not expecting Lindelof to lose that duel, otherwise he would have adjusted quickly to cover him.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 12:01pm On Aug 25, 2019
Leyqute:


Abi o grin

70% possession is counterattack.

Possession football wey Rashford and co never play in 3 years. It’ll take time before they adjust.

What style of play did LVG and Mou play?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by thorrvik55(m): 12:02pm On Aug 25, 2019
larride:


What style of play did LVG and Mou play?

Van gaal played drab football and Mou played boring football tongue

Those boys have not played possession football before, sir.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 12:07pm On Aug 25, 2019
eph12:

It's even worse when you consider that he's the only creative player in the team. He's strong, he can draw fowls, he can beat his man and he has nice through passes. Yes he loses the ball but with two guys behind him good at retrieving and passing, Pogba will do well. They went to bring Fred that can't pass
Thats where the problem lies. Fred is not a quality player and not a Man U standard, Matic is finished and mctominy is still a prospect. Pogba is world class, but a systematic one just like Salah. You have to play to their strength to feel their quality.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 12:07pm On Aug 25, 2019
eph12:

We controlled the game but players weren't daring last season. You had a coach that will leave you out to dry in the press if you make a mistake, how do you want to go all out and try something? The team was playing like they are strangers, from defense to attack. They couldn't string passes, they didn't understand each other. There was already a feeling of two sides in the dressing room. The ones that would always get the stick vs the ones that could do no wrong.

You're an old timer here but have refused to see reason. Common sense should let us know that no coach will be pleased with this current team, definitely not OGS. But because he didn't say so in the press you are pissed at him. He gave young the captain and threw him to the bench. The same Rojo that they claim is in OGS plans is who is looking for another club. Jones and Smalling are no where near the first team. He doesn't say anything negative in the press, that's who he is but he is working behind the scene to effect the changes. This is only quantum physics to those that have sworn not to see reason.

He wants players but the club is weary of being taken advantage of. This project is a work in progress and will take some time. I'm pissed that we couldn't settle the RW and CM positions but we have to look carefully at what the club is doing and understand it.

The same Mourinho that said he was pleased with Lukaku performance at the left back position is who you want us to use as reference. He never criticized Lukaku, Smalling, Young, but was always on Pogba, Martial and Shaw case. Please he is gone, amen to that

I don’t understand this one bit. So last season, we had a manager that didn’t allow them to enjoy themselves, what’s happening with the new manager then?

Everyone knows Mou to be a loud mouthed idîots and I’m only using him as a reference today because while the fans were turning on him last season and supporting the players, I had maintained that these set of players are shite also and not just the manager needs to go but we need to get quality players in. If you think 2 players will make a difference in this team, the result is what you are seeing.

One thing I want to get straight from you is this, who should we blame? The players or the manager or give them time to perfect this “style of play” as you pointed out in your other post.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 12:07pm On Aug 25, 2019
thorrvik55:


Van gaal played drab football and Mou played boring football tongue

Those boys have not played possession football before, sir.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:09pm On Aug 25, 2019
It was obvious from last season that this team was one of the laziest. OGS has tried to correct that. He has brought in better defenders. Next up is the midfield and attack. I expect this season to be a season of many fixes.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:15pm On Aug 25, 2019
It is possible that with time the team will begin to play well. The new players need to blend with the rest, then Pogba and Martial should be more business like. We need to raise the tempo. Our game is too slow.

Our right back goes to the right 90% of the time. Even when there is clear space to drive inward towards the box, he has a natural tendency to go to the touchline. Things like this need to be understood by other attacking players.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:16pm On Aug 25, 2019
larride:


I don’t understand this one bit. So last season, we had a manager that didn’t allow them to enjoy themselves, what’s happening with the new manager then?

Everyone knows Mou to be a loud mouthed idîots and I’m only using him as a reference today because while the fans were turning on him last season and supporting the players, I had maintained that these set of players are shite also and not just the manager needs to go but we need to get quality players in. If you think 2 players will make a difference in this team, the result is what you are seeing.

One thing I want to get straight from you is this, who should we blame? The players or the manager or give them time to perfect this “style of play” as you pointed out in your other post.
Blame for what exactly? If you talking about yesterday loss, I'm not blaming anybody for that. I can clearly see the difference between what we have now and what we had last year. The result was unfortunate, we had a couple of penalty decisions go against us, we lost a penalty. These things happen and it's bad luck but does not happen every time. This was not how it used to be. I have been around the game long enough to know that it's not every time we look for who to blame. Same reason I didn't blame Pogba for losing his penalty on Monday. These things happen and on another day, the result won't be the same
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:18pm On Aug 25, 2019
eph12:
It was obvious from last season that this team was one of the laziest. OGS has tried to correct that. He has brought in better defenders. Next up is the midfield and attack. I expect this season to be a season of many fixes.


It is not buy buy that fixes a team.

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