njelrapheal:
what makes you think that it Biafra would break away that rest of Nigeria wouldn't split up

They (the SS minorities) had said it several times they want to remain Nigerians, fight for yourself and stop heaping your hope on others who may disappoint you

njelrapheal:
what makes you think that it Biafra would break away that rest of Nigeria wouldn't split up

I think I understand you better now. You are assuming if Biafra breaks away the Niger deltans will break away too. If that happens you might have solved the port problem but how are you so sure they will break up too. You are depending on another region to make a decision which they might or might not

Lexokey:


I think I understand you better now. You are assuming if Biafra breaks away the Niger deltans will break away too. If that happens you might have solved the port problem but how are you so sure they will break up too. You are depending on another region to make a decision which they might or might not

Exactly my point

mrvitalis:

The truth is this hate has united us , i my self should have at least 10 plots in ibeju lekki ,had the offers ,but i declined ,im thinking south east at best south south

The hate is a good thing ,let them deny igbos 2023 presidency that would open the eyes of the rest

Haaa oga vitalis na you be dis abi they hacked your Account?

Lexokey:


I think I understand you better now. You are assuming if Biafra breaks away the Niger deltans will break away too. If that happens you might have solved the port problem but how are you so sure they will break up too. You are depending on another region to make a decision which they might or might not

it's so obvious that it will only be a matter of time before other nations split. I mean the ethnic minorities in the south that you refer to as Niger Delta, encomprises different subnations. Even in the event that they do not leave and all chose to be part of Nigeria it still would not create a huge problem of survival ,I mean it's not as if land locked countries do not exist.

Area4Area:
They (the SS minorities) had said it several times they want to remain Nigerians, fight for yourself and stop heaping your hope on others who may disappoint you

When did they say it several times. And how can You prove that a few people's opinions represent the opinions of the entire minority nations.

njelrapheal:
it's so obvious that it will only be a matter of time before other nations split. I mean the ethnic minorities in the south that you refer to as Niger Delta, encomprises different subnations. Even in the event that they do not leave and all chose to be part of Nigeria it still would not create a huge problem of survival ,I mean it's not as if land locked countries do not exist.

Landlocked countries exist and many are even richer than Nigeria today but what you must know is that they've signed pacts and agreements with the countries surrounding them for trade and use of port, question is that will Nigeria agree to any agreement with landlocked Biafra or you still want to think again

mrvitalis:
People know me here on nairaland i was so liberal most of my igbo brothers question my igboness

The igbo man is unique ,the igbo man position is something igbos dont understand,for u to understand how other people feel about us

Imagine there is an area in enugu with super fine house and very expensive and hsusas own most of the houses

Imagine most super market in enugu to go to pay n u see its own but an hausa man

Ur big and pharmacy stores are own by hausa men

The finest girls in enugu are hausa n only role with hausa guys

In your school in enugu hausa guys dominate
I hope we now get the picture

Hatred is built over years ,most people here hate igbos for one reason or the other and finally see politics as the only place they can pay igbos back

If an igbo man become president its over there is no where to hold an igbo man again ,

The hate is national ,they try to justify it ,even them cant , south south (remove akwa cross ) beofore my family bought land in bayelsa we had to hide under an someone from bayelsa ...south south only step back the hate after 2011 and 2015 that they saw the true igbo,south west ,middle belt seem cool now ...fulani dont like us because they cant manipulate us
Hausa care less

There is nothing u can do to please them

Let us assume everything you wrote is correct and it is true that other Nigerians are indeed jealous of ibos because of all these attributes you laid down.

Can you also explain the animosities against ibos in China, Malaysia, Thailand, Ghana, South Africa. Practically everywhere there's a large presence of ibos? By the way, the richest Nigerians are not ibos.

If 80 ibos were rounded up by the EFCC, the internet will be on fire by now. Cries of tribalism, selective justice and everything else will be deafening.

njelrapheal:

When did they say it several times. And how can You prove that a few people's opinions represent the opinions of the entire minority nations.

Igala, Idoma, Efik, Ibibio, Ijaw Bini, Urhobo, Isoko and other groups had said it at different time, Google is not expensive so use it.

Nice work by the OP. Evidently a work of research. For me, I'll keep my opinion until I know more. For now, this work is admirable. Even as it contains some information I do not want to agree with, I will not want to soil a seemingly properly researched work with my personal differences. Well done.

Wrong quote please.

Guestlander:


Let us assume everything you wrote is correct and it is true that other Nigerians are indeed jealous of ibos because of all these attributes you laid down.

Can you also explain the animosities against ibos in China, Malaysia, Thailand, Ghana, South Africa. Practically everywhere there's a large presence of ibos? By the way, the richest Nigerians are not ibos.

If 80 ibos were rounded up by the EFCC, the internet will be on fire by now. Cries of tribalism, selective justice and everything else will be deafening.

Jews are hated every where because they are successful
Igbos have have the ability to out progress their host just like jews

And igbo are not hated in china and most of the country like u said

Area4Area:
People will just be killed but you'll still remain a Nigerian after everything, just like our parents after the war

That was what the Serbians said in former Yugoslavia. You cannot treat people with is disdain and expect them not to react. The different Nations would emerge whether anyone likes it or not. it will surely happen.

Area4Area:
Landlocked countries exist and many are even richer than Nigeria today but what you must know is that they've signed pacts and agreements with the countries surrounding them for trade and use of port, question is that will Nigeria agree to any agreement with landlocked Biafra or you still want to think again

Imagine Nigeria trying to arm-twist Biafra because it is Landlocked. Hope you know that landlocked countries are identified and have 'unions' that look after their well-being. If I am not mistaken, Switzerland is also a landlocked country but they also wield considerable influence in the Western World. That is assuming a good number of Southern states want no part in Biafra, as that is yet to be proven.
I served in one of these states that is perceived to be isolated from the East, and it may interest you to know that from the first town I entered in the state, to the capital city, to the orientation camp to the place I eventually served which is about 3 hrs away from the capital city, I spoke my indigenous language to the locals there and I was understood as much as I understood them.

mrvitalis:

Jews are hated every where because they are successful
Igbos have have the ability to out progress their host just like jews

And igbo are not hated in china and most of the country like u said

You are not Jews and you are not outperforming anyone except in your minds. I think the trouble with you is this over inflated sense of importance.
If you are outperforming everyone else why is the cry of marginalization loudest in the east? Does this make any sense?

Guestlander:


You are not Jews and you are not outperforming anyone except in your minds. I think the trouble with you is this over inflated sense of importance.

Ok

nice write up. balanced and accurate. there was no national reconciliation after civil war

J111333:
When Obasanjo was in power, tribalism was not this bad even when Goodluck was there except his last days in power.
APC brought in ethnicity and religion into Nigeria's politics and sadly, they have come to stay.

IPOB brought it.

Lexokey:


Read history. No region was happy with their leaders. The mistake of the plotters was that Igbo leaders were not killed. Killing Maimalari was very unnecessary if you ask me. The plotters were young and as most young people don't always think heavily through every decision. Nigerians were happy until the week after when the news started to announce those killed and those who killed and the name watchers started to link tribe to the matter and rumors started spreading. That was when the joy ended. This is an extract from an article to understand why at first some parts of the North were happy and northern soldiers were able to pull the trigger without mutiny on Major Kaduna;


"After power was transferred to nationals and sir Ahmadu Bello, the late sardauna of Sokoto, became premier of the northern region, non-muslim communities were denied portable water, roads, post offices, schools, hospitals, and access to civil service absorption. Under the premiership of late sir Ahmadu Bello, forcible conversions were enforced. From 1961 till he died in 1966, sir Ahmadu Bello went on annual Islamization drives all over the northern region. Traditional rulership of communities became a preserve of only muslims. The resistance against muslim traditional rulers led to the Tiv riots between 1960-64, and restiveness in old Gongola state (today’s Adamawa and Taraba states), southern Kaduna (Kafachan), Tafawa Balewa (Bauchi state), and Plateau state. The late sardauna promise of “dipping the koran into the sea” has continued unabated till date by consistent terror attacks and killings in the middle belt followed by movements by new communities of Hausa Fulani into the middle belt all the way down to the south states near the Atlantic Ocean"
source: https://www.geopolitica.ru/en/article/under-reported-issues-northern-nigeria-part-ii

Your reference of an article to buttress your point of Nigerians in celebration is a "fraud".

You write on thr misunderstanding of igbo and continue to accelerate the precise factors of misunderstanding viz "your untrustworthiness".

I maintain, you must bring us evidence of Nigerians celebrating the cold hearted massacre of theor leaders....and precisely which Nigerians were those celebrating.

Please dont reference any more article "fraudulently" as you just did to copiously pass it as evidence.

Lexokey:


Read history. No region was happy with their leaders. The mistake of the plotters was that Igbo leaders were not killed. Killing Maimalari was very unnecessary if you ask me. The plotters were young and as most young people don't always think heavily through every decision. Nigerians were happy until the week after when the news started to announce those killed and those who killed and the name watchers started to link tribe to the matter and rumors started spreading. That was when the joy ended. This is an extract from an article to understand why at first some parts of the North were happy and northern soldiers were able to pull the trigger without mutiny on Major Kaduna;


"After power was transferred to nationals and sir Ahmadu Bello, the late sardauna of Sokoto, became premier of the northern region, non-muslim communities were denied portable water, roads, post offices, schools, hospitals, and access to civil service absorption. Under the premiership of late sir Ahmadu Bello, forcible conversions were enforced. From 1961 till he died in 1966, sir Ahmadu Bello went on annual Islamization drives all over the northern region. Traditional rulership of communities became a preserve of only muslims. The resistance against muslim traditional rulers led to the Tiv riots between 1960-64, and restiveness in old Gongola state (today’s Adamawa and Taraba states), southern Kaduna (Kafachan), Tafawa Balewa (Bauchi state), and Plateau state. The late sardauna promise of “dipping the koran into the sea” has continued unabated till date by consistent terror attacks and killings in the middle belt followed by movements by new communities of Hausa Fulani into the middle belt all the way down to the south states near the Atlantic Ocean"
source: https://www.geopolitica.ru/en/article/under-reported-issues-northern-nigeria-part-ii

Im not happy with Obj, Im not happy with Tinubu, im not happy with Akeredolu....but if you assassinate them I will be terribly upset and angle for vengeance on their death.

Speak truthfully and with trust! Dont swap grievance against leaders with celebration over their misfortune.

Get sense! I was at first interested in contributing to some angle of what you said but you lost my support now since you cant speak honestly on such a subject.

[[s]quote author=Lexokey post=81578799]I have been on the cyber space for a while and i must say that the amount of hatred and tribalism coming from most Nigerian forums is very disgusting to say the least. From words like Afonja's, Igbos and Nyamiri it is very sad that the younger generation which is supposed to be the future is much worst that the oldies when it comes to tribalism. Nigerians need to understand that until we all treat each other with respect and put aside tribalism, other African countries will continue to overtake us and we will remain the old giant of Africa. Very few countries are made up of one ethnicity so we should learn to live together and develop. Diversity can be a blessing if you use it well ask Rwanda. Every major tribe has their strong points and weaknesses but we must harness all forces to grow. The Yoruba's are very intellectual and you must give them that, speak about the corporate world and they are there, speak about technology and they always get it first before it breaks throughout Nigeria, speak about the academia and they have a great majority likewise the Igbos'. The Igbos' are industrial, entrepreneurial and brave people who can turn nothing into something, hustlers who have their own short comings like everyone else. The Northerners are strategic, honest and docile. The recent burst of 80 "Yahoo" boys has not made things easier and i have read many misconceptions about Igbos' and this is why I write. Here are some major misconceptions about Igbos;

ALL IGBOS ARE IPOB
Helloooooo!!!! I have seen more people assume this online than I have seen..... gelato.. hehe.. But look. Biafra was declared because Igbos were being slaughtered in their mass in other regions of Nigeria. I mean a whole 30,000 (official number, some media claim 100,000) Igbos who had nothing to do with the 1966 coup were killed during the counter coup and aftermath. Haba, brother if na you be Ojukwu you no go react when your people say if they don't want us then let us be on our own? But I blame the fact that we do not study history in schools for this because from my research the war was about oil on both sides. You see, Nigerian leaders at the time were not fighting to unify Nigeria simply because they love the Igbos. C'mmon you guys just tried to get rid of us before the British high commissioner in Lagos told the Northerners the importance of oil discovered in the Niger Delta and the disadvantages of separation. The British were interested in one Nigeria so as to prevent French dominance in West Africa and the French supported Biafra to break a British colony, not because they loved Biafrans and well the US did not intervene because they already had the Vietnam war at hand and also did not want to go against British interest. At the same time to be fair, I do no think Ojukwu would declare a Republic which he knows has no chance of survival or major resource so it was a game of I have discovered oil and I am going to keep it because you do not want me and Nigeria is like. If you leave this marriage with that oil money you will payyyyy!!!! So fast forward decades later, and most Igbos are managing their lives and Nnamdi Kanu comes along and is passing this message which of course only the unemployed and those who have nothing to lose listen to and they are clamoring for Biafra. Meanwhile I have lived in the South-South long enough to know that the average Niger Deltan will not be part of Biafra this time. So how do you plan to have a land locked country surrounded by your enemy with no major resources? Guess Nnamdi Kalu can answer that so most Igbo intellects do not follow him and are not IPOB.

THEY ARE DISRESPECTFUL TOWARDS THEIR ELDERS
My father was a senior banker and I remember accompanying him to work one day and I met a Director of the bank. An elderly Yoruba man, smart, professional and charismatic. I admired him honestly as I had dreams to be like him as I was still writing my ICAN exams then so I smiled and greeted Good morning sir! He simply looked at me and snubbed. My father, his deputy apologized and asked me to bow and greet before he acknowledged me. I was ashamed, embarrassed and sure he had concluded I was a disrespectful son but that was far from the truth. To understand this you have to look into the pre-colonial administration of Igbos. The system of government before colonialism was a sort of traditional parliamentary system. Unlike other tribes, decisions were not made by a single king. In-fact, there was no king. Council of Chiefs would have periodic meetings and raise major issues and agree on matters affecting the community. Of course, there was the eldest of the chiefs but he was accorded his respect but not that of a king. We could hold our leaders accountable (please beating of Sen. Ike Ekweremadu no follow for holding him accountable but errrm.....). Chiefs were often the eldest (okpara) or wisest from each clan or family in the community and that way, all families were represented. This is similar to the modern day senate. If you had an issue, you were to approach the eldest in your clan and have a discussion with him and express your feelings. This way we are able to tell our elders how we feel in respectful ways and he would bring such up at the meeting of the council of chiefs. The Igbos believe all men are born equal apart from children of slaves and outcasts. This system had its advantages and disadvantages as it allowed the son of a poor farmer to rise to the top through hard work and also prevented the situation of having a mad king drunk on power. There were however, no royal families with exception of some communities in modern day Delta and Anambra state. Colonization saw the interaction of different tribes and cultures which have kings, bow to elders and do not express feelings to elders and other tribes saw Igbos who do this as disrespectful. The Igbos do not bow, but do not see this as pride it is just not our culture.

GREEDY AND MONEY LOVING
My brothers love money though but hey, everyone does but that does not mean we should do illegal things to get it. There are two sides to this story. Before 1966, Igbos dominated the civil service, military, academia and business. Not by way of marginalizing other tribes but by hard work. After the civil war, the civil servants were not reinstated, the military was purged of Igbos, business men lost all funds and were given £20 max regardless of their pre-civil war bank account balance and the lucky ones in academia used their certificate to travel abroad (this is why my mother says finish school even if you want to be a musician) and this was the beginning of the brain drain problem. The tribe was hungry and discriminated throughout Nigeria and this created a problem where money ruled. Everyone had to start afresh and coupled with a system that did not have royalty and all men were seen as equals, the moment you go out and make money you are worshiped back home. The colonialist had introduced a king (igwe) system to enable easier administration and control of the eastern region but the system had collapsed during the war and it seemed anyone with the right amount of money could become king. It became clear that with enough money you could have so much power in the east so some greedy ones who want to make it fast started to do all sorts of illegal things to come back home powerful. It is so bad that to question their wealth makes you "jealous" and even within extended families cousins compete to outdo each other with wealth rather than lift each other.

THE 1966 COUP WAS AN IGBO COUP
C'mmon guys. Nigerians celebrated after the coup. Imagine being oppressed by whites but at least the system is running fine then imagine those whites giving Nigerians independence and you have your brother in power and the system is no longer running so fine and yet the oppression is worse.... Yeah that was the situation pre 1966. Many Nigerians were clamoring for the military to take over. What they didn't expect was that it will be done by a select few from a particular tribe.. Partially their fault and partially not. You see, the composition of the military back then was majority commissioned officers: Igbo and non-commissioned officers Middle-belt and core North. So Major Kaduna had a small poll to chose from. He did try to recruit other non Igbo officers but most passed his bluff and remember, it is always impossible until it is done.. Now ask yourself, how did he get Northern junior officers to pull the trigger on most Northern politicians? It is not by military chain of command as they could have turned on him to mutiny rather that kill their own but a sense of unity made them to because Nigerians were angry at the time! Now here is where they didn't do well. They failed to carry out the coup in the East, I know, I know, they let tribal sentiments get to them. How can you plan a coup in the North Killing the most respected northern figure and also in the south west and you simply planned to travel to the east after the Lagos stage was complete allowing eastern politicians to escape. Gen. Ironsi seemed to have a soft hand on the coup planners and Decree 34 sealed the deal. But how really do people thing Igbos just planned to take over the country in one swift motion. The plan according to the plotters was to release Awolowo!

THEY DO NOT HELP EACH OTHER
This one has a lot of our uncles sitting on this table. But to be fair we look at both sides. The indigenization decree of 1972 was just 2 years after the civil war. While most Igbos were struggling to get back on their feet and most northerners were not very educated to understand shares and company ownership, the only group with the money and education were the Yorubas. It was a windfall. Foreign multinationals were selling their shares below value to ensure their ownership ratio was in line with the law. This way, the Yourbas owned the corporate sector and honestly they do a good job at helping each other out and I give them that. The Northerners missed on this too but oh well, they have the civil service, majority federal appointments and government control so most people from these tribes are uplifted by their tribesmen in positions of authority in the corporate sector or Government while the Igbos have to strive for themselves and this is why today most Igbo men are business men because they are no jobs for them. Well, for most Nigerians anyway but you get what i'm saying. So the problems starts, the individualistic nature of Igbos dictates that I have made it on my own so you should prove yourself a man by making it on your own. This is no other tribes fault but our own. Those uncles are unconcerned because no one gave them a helping hand and they believe you should go prove yourself. But in life not everyone is meant to be an entrepreneur who makes something from nothing rather some can do better working under someone so the fact you made it on your own does not mean you cannot help and if you want to end this drug and 419 problem we have to help each other.

I have read major books on the history of Nigerians on both sides and listened to witnesses of the civil war and do not argue with people who have not done prior research. I love intelligent arguments and hate sentiments, so clarify all I have written and come dispute me and then maybe I might learn something from you, A fool is one who tells himself he knows it all. I learn everyday and will like to hear from others but with well researched arguments please.





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You are very right. That's why Obasanjo has my respect for as long as I am alive. He was a unifier and everyone felt to be part of Nigeria. However, with the current turn in events, any Igbo man that believes in equity and fair play in this country is the biggest fool ever to room the universe. Igbos must reunite against a carefully planned suppression of their tribe.

I must also state that the OP was right to say that Northerners are sincere.... I agree totally with that. I have had several dealings with them and I tell you that those guys are very honest and sincere.

J111333:
When Obasanjo was in power, tribalism was not this bad even when Goodluck was there except his last days in power.
APC brought in ethnicity and religion into Nigeria's politics and sadly, they have come to stay.

Lexokey:
I have been on the cyber space for a while and i must say that the amount of hatred and tribalism coming from most Nigerian forums is very disgusting to say the least. From words like Afonja's, Igbos and Nyamiri it is very sad that the younger generation which is supposed to be the future is much worst that the oldies when it comes to tribalism. Nigerians need to understand that until we all treat each other with respect and put aside tribalism, other African countries will continue to overtake us and we will remain the old giant of Africa. Very few countries are made up of one ethnicity so we should learn to live together and develop. Diversity can be a blessing if you use it well ask Rwanda. Every major tribe has their strong points and weaknesses but we must harness all forces to grow. The Yoruba's are very intellectual and you must give them that, speak about the corporate world and they are there, speak about technology and they always get it first before it breaks throughout Nigeria, speak about the academia and they have a great majority likewise the Igbos'. The Igbos' are industrial, entrepreneurial and brave people who can turn nothing into something, hustlers who have their own short comings like everyone else. The Northerners are strategic, honest and docile. The recent burst of 80 "Yahoo" boys has not made things easier and i have read many misconceptions about Igbos' and this is why I write. Here are some major misconceptions about Igbos;

ALL IGBOS ARE IPOB
Helloooooo!!!! I have seen more people assume this online than I have seen..... gelato.. hehe.. But look. Biafra was declared because Igbos were being slaughtered in their mass in other regions of Nigeria. I mean a whole 30,000 (official number, some media claim 100,000) Igbos who had nothing to do with the 1966 coup were killed during the counter coup and aftermath. Haba, brother if na you be Ojukwu you no go react when your people say if they don't want us then let us be on our own? But I blame the fact that we do not study history in schools for this because from my research the war was about oil on both sides. You see, Nigerian leaders at the time were not fighting to unify Nigeria simply because they love the Igbos. C'mmon you guys just tried to get rid of us before the British high commissioner in Lagos told the Northerners the importance of oil discovered in the Niger Delta and the disadvantages of separation. The British were interested in one Nigeria so as to prevent French dominance in West Africa and the French supported Biafra to break a British colony, not because they loved Biafrans and well the US did not intervene because they already had the Vietnam war at hand and also did not want to go against British interest. At the same time to be fair, I do no think Ojukwu would declare a Republic which he knows has no chance of survival or major resource so it was a game of I have discovered oil and I am going to keep it because you do not want me and Nigeria is like. If you leave this marriage with that oil money you will payyyyy!!!! So fast forward decades later, and most Igbos are managing their lives and Nnamdi Kanu comes along and is passing this message which of course only the unemployed and those who have nothing to lose listen to and they are clamoring for Biafra. Meanwhile I have lived in the South-South long enough to know that the average Niger Deltan will not be part of Biafra this time. So how do you plan to have a land locked country surrounded by your enemy with no major resources? Guess Nnamdi Kalu can answer that so most Igbo intellects do not follow him and are not IPOB.

THEY ARE DISRESPECTFUL TOWARDS THEIR ELDERS
My father was a senior banker and I remember accompanying him to work one day and I met a Director of the bank. An elderly Yoruba man, smart, professional and charismatic. I admired him honestly as I had dreams to be like him as I was still writing my ICAN exams then so I smiled and greeted Good morning sir! He simply looked at me and snubbed. My father, his deputy apologized and asked me to bow and greet before he acknowledged me. I was ashamed, embarrassed and sure he had concluded I was a disrespectful son but that was far from the truth. To understand this you have to look into the pre-colonial administration of Igbos. The system of government before colonialism was a sort of traditional parliamentary system. Unlike other tribes, decisions were not made by a single king. In-fact, there was no king. Council of Chiefs would have periodic meetings and raise major issues and agree on matters affecting the community. Of course, there was the eldest of the chiefs but he was accorded his respect but not that of a king. We could hold our leaders accountable (please beating of Sen. Ike Ekweremadu no follow for holding him accountable but errrm.....). Chiefs were often the eldest (okpara) or wisest from each clan or family in the community and that way, all families were represented. This is similar to the modern day senate. If you had an issue, you were to approach the eldest in your clan and have a discussion with him and express your feelings. This way we are able to tell our elders how we feel in respectful ways and he would bring such up at the meeting of the council of chiefs. The Igbos believe all men are born equal apart from children of slaves and outcasts. This system had its advantages and disadvantages as it allowed the son of a poor farmer to rise to the top through hard work and also prevented the situation of having a mad king drunk on power. There were however, no royal families with exception of some communities in modern day Delta and Anambra state. Colonization saw the interaction of different tribes and cultures which have kings, bow to elders and do not express feelings to elders and other tribes saw Igbos who do this as disrespectful. The Igbos do not bow, but do not see this as pride it is just not our culture.

GREEDY AND MONEY LOVING
My brothers love money though but hey, everyone does but that does not mean we should do illegal things to get it. There are two sides to this story. Before 1966, Igbos dominated the civil service, military, academia and business. Not by way of marginalizing other tribes but by hard work. After the civil war, the civil servants were not reinstated, the military was purged of Igbos, business men lost all funds and were given £20 max regardless of their pre-civil war bank account balance and the lucky ones in academia used their certificate to travel abroad (this is why my mother says finish school even if you want to be a musician) and this was the beginning of the brain drain problem. The tribe was hungry and discriminated throughout Nigeria and this created a problem where money ruled. Everyone had to start afresh and coupled with a system that did not have royalty and all men were seen as equals, the moment you go out and make money you are worshiped back home. The colonialist had introduced a king (igwe) system to enable easier administration and control of the eastern region but the system had collapsed during the war and it seemed anyone with the right amount of money could become king. It became clear that with enough money you could have so much power in the east so some greedy ones who want to make it fast started to do all sorts of illegal things to come back home powerful. It is so bad that to question their wealth makes you "jealous" and even within extended families cousins compete to outdo each other with wealth rather than lift each other.

THE 1966 COUP WAS AN IGBO COUP
C'mmon guys. Nigerians celebrated after the coup. Imagine being oppressed by whites but at least the system is running fine then imagine those whites giving Nigerians independence and you have your brother in power and the system is no longer running so fine and yet the oppression is worse.... Yeah that was the situation pre 1966. Many Nigerians were clamoring for the military to take over. What they didn't expect was that it will be done by a select few from a particular tribe.. Partially their fault and partially not. You see, the composition of the military back then was majority commissioned officers: Igbo and non-commissioned officers Middle-belt and core North. So Major Kaduna had a small poll to chose from. He did try to recruit other non Igbo officers but most passed his bluff and remember, it is always impossible until it is done.. Now ask yourself, how did he get Northern junior officers to pull the trigger on most Northern politicians? It is not by military chain of command as they could have turned on him to mutiny rather that kill their own but a sense of unity made them to because Nigerians were angry at the time! Now here is where they didn't do well. They failed to carry out the coup in the East, I know, I know, they let tribal sentiments get to them. How can you plan a coup in the North Killing the most respected northern figure and also in the south west and you simply planned to travel to the east after the Lagos stage was complete allowing eastern politicians to escape. Gen. Ironsi seemed to have a soft hand on the coup planners and Decree 34 sealed the deal. But how really do people thing Igbos just planned to take over the country in one swift motion. The plan according to the plotters was to release Awolowo!

THEY DO NOT HELP EACH OTHER
This one has a lot of our uncles sitting on this table. But to be fair we look at both sides. The indigenization decree of 1972 was just 2 years after the civil war. While most Igbos were struggling to get back on their feet and most northerners were not very educated to understand shares and company ownership, the only group with the money and education were the Yorubas. It was a windfall. Foreign multinationals were selling their shares below value to ensure their ownership ratio was in line with the law. This way, the Yourbas owned the corporate sector and honestly they do a good job at helping each other out and I give them that. The Northerners missed on this too but oh well, they have the civil service, majority federal appointments and government control so most people from these tribes are uplifted by their tribesmen in positions of authority in the corporate sector or Government while the Igbos have to strive for themselves and this is why today most Igbo men are business men because they are no jobs for them. Well, for most Nigerians anyway but you get what i'm saying. So the problems starts, the individualistic nature of Igbos dictates that I have made it on my own so you should prove yourself a man by making it on your own. This is no other tribes fault but our own. Those uncles are unconcerned because no one gave them a helping hand and they believe you should go prove yourself. But in life not everyone is meant to be an entrepreneur who makes something from nothing rather some can do better working under someone so the fact you made it on your own does not mean you cannot help and if you want to end this drug and 419 problem we have to help each other.

I have read major books on the history of Nigerians on both sides and listened to witnesses of the civil war and do not argue with people who have not done prior research. I love intelligent arguments and hate sentiments, so clarify all I have written and come dispute me and then maybe I might learn something from you, A fool is one who tells himself he knows it all. I learn everyday and will like to hear from others but with well researched arguments please.

Actually, Igbos love money. For a mother to sell her own child for money is not just ordinary.

Not all igbos are Igbos. A very few are against their activities why a lot are just happy that Nnamdu Kanu is showing Buhari pepper.

Igbos are also not in tune with reality. They lie to themselves and believe such lies and then call you a fool for not believing it. An igbo man once told me Igbo land is bigger than the south west and the map is fake.

The first coup was not an Igbo coup, but it was a coup hatched by Igbo politicians and soldiers and it claimed the lives of officers from other tribes. It was also celebrated by Igbos who taunted their northern colleagues. Do you know the also released an igbo song titled machine gun on how Nzeogu killed Sardauna? Some of the participant thought they were actually participating in a revolution little did they know they were used for an ethnic agenda.

Guestlander:


He meant Ibos celebrated. They celebrated so much they got Hausa/Fulanis riled up.

As always you must come in defense of Hausa/Fulani. Why not restrict it to how your people felt?

meccuno:
That was what the Serbians said in former Yugoslavia. You cannot treat people with is disdain and expect them not to react. The different Nations would emerge whether anyone likes it or not. it will surely happen.

Go and form your country then, why waiting for Nigeria to collapse first, is it because you now understand that Nnamdi Kanu, IPOB and you their supporters can no longer get Biafra any more by yourselves so you want others to get it for you?

Area4Area:
Go and form your country then, why waiting for Nigeria to collapse first, is it because you now understand that Nnamdi Kanu, IPOB and you their supporters can no longer get Biafra any more by yourselves so you want others to get it for you?

Igbo land is our Nation. and i am not IPOB. i might share their sentiment but i am not a member. moreover why do you people get so offended when others want to take their destinies in their hand?

Area4Area:
Go and form your country then, why waiting for Nigeria to collapse first, is it because you now understand that Nnamdi Kanu, IPOB and you their supporters can no longer get Biafra any more by yourselves so you want others to get it for you?

Lolzzzz

This Yoruba boy, u never tire....lolzzzx

Guestlander this your brother in anambra state dey worry us oooo....

Come and talk to him.

Lexokey:


I did not witness 1966 and everything I write, I write from history and eye witness account and try to be unbiased. Please read books from both sides including why we struck by Maj Adewale Ademoyega and the accounts of The Owa of Ido-Ani, Oba Olufemi Olutoye, a retired Major-General in the Nigerian Army who served at the time both Yoruba men. In the coup plotters words not mine, that was their aim. Awolowo remained in prison because the coup failed and Gen. Aguyi Ironsi who took over was not part of this coup. We need to get history back into our curriculum.

That was what the igbos told the two Yoruba men in order for them to be rope in the coup. The igbos needed some dumb gullible people like FFK, oLabode George, davido type people to follow them and he needed to lie to them that they are fighting to release Awolowo. I mean that is what I will do in order to rope people of Yoruba in to fight for me in order for my own gain.

MetaPhysical:


Im not happy with Obj, Im not happy with Tinubu, im not happy with Akeredolu....but if you assassinate them I will be terribly upset and angle for vengeance on their death.

Speak truthfully and with trust! Dont swap grievance against leaders with celebration over their misfortune.

Get sense! I was at first interested in contributing to some angle of what you said but you lost my support now since you cant speak honestly on such a subject.

Thank you for your point and you seem to support my facts without even knowing. In 1966 there was no social media to spread news fast only radio, TV and newspapers which very few Nigerians had access to. When the news first filtered that a group of soldiers had killed the Sarduna and other political figures, Nigerians regardless of tribe were happy until the names of the plotters started to spread. It is the same situation today. You mentioned being angry with Obj and Tinubu but if they are assassinated you will be vengeful and that is exactly what happened. Every region was angry at their leaders because they were worse than the British but were more concerned that their deaths came in the hands of Igbos. If that coup was plotted by a more balanced ratio of participants and Igbo politicians killed too. The history of Nigeria would have been different. I encourage people to read history without sentiments.

loopman:
Nobody is misunderstanding the igbos.

Igbos attitudes, behavioral pattern, what they prioritize, socio-relationship and above all their attitude towards the status of Nigeria is enough for enough to draw conclusions about igbos

But for Northerners that love Nigeria simply because of the benefits Nigeria affords them, Yorubas would have preferred a distant relationship with igbos as neighboring countries as they don’t share that same value system on most issues

lol....so u are saying that yorubas stay in nigeria because northerners love nigeria? Hmmm this is telling. So basically yorubas have no mind of their own?

selemempe:
lol....so u are saying that yorubas stay in nigeria because northerners love nigeria? Hmmm this is telling. So basically yorubas have no mind of their own?

When Yorubas through Awolowo insisted the insertion of the clause of secession referendum clause in the independence constitution, it was your Azikiwe that worked against it using the Northerners and the British to thwart the effort.

As it is, without the National Assembly, there can’t be any significant change to the constitution that can be done, and we know with the composition of the NASS, any change not supported by the north can’t fly.

But this simple issue Is beyond your capacity since all you people believe is beaten and force

loopman:


When Yorubas through Awolowo insisted the insertion of the clause of secession referendum clause in the independence constitution, it was your Azikiwe that worked against it using the Northerners and the British to thwart the effort.

As it is, without the National Assembly, there can’t be any significant change to the constitution that can be done, and we know with the composition of the NASS, any change not supported by the north can’t fly.

But this simple issue Is beyond your capacity since all you people believe is beaten and force

well the bolded is speculation. We dont know what happened during the 1954 constitutional confrence for sure....but we know these 2 things for sure

1. Igbos actually left your nigeria and created their own country...ur kinsmen died in thousands to bring us back to the same country u claim u dont really like us in

2. The biafran secession of 1967 presented a perfect opportunity for u to have ur own country, u refused to take it.

Its funny how yorubas accuse igbos of thoughtless actions and violence. We remember wat yorubas did from 1993 to 1998. From declaring abiola president (treason) to hijacking planes and forming the terrorist group called opc. You even opened radio kudirat and was insulting every tribe in nigeria. You simply didnt go to war in 1993 because the north was already feeling victorious and didnt want to start a pogrom on u guys like they did to igbos in 1966.
If abacha's started killing u guys like gowon's military started killing igbos after aguiyi ironsi...u ppl would have been shouting oduduwa or death