OkCornel:


Have you read The Triumphant Church?

Besides, Paul had a personal encounter with Jesus. He wrote about it in some of his letters. Those letters became part of the Bible. Paul's story is acceptable and universal simply because - it is in the Bible.


The same Jesus appeared to Kenneth Hagin, gave him a detailed expose on the operations of Demons. He wrote a book on it. Kenneth Hagin's story is not acceptable and universal simply because - it is not in the Bible.


Smh.

By all means you are trying to tell yourself that I don't believe in Pa Hagin's ministry. Hahahahahahaha. Sorry, hold something else.

How many of his books have you read? How many of them talks abt satan and demons unendingly?

Anas09:

How do you know his age? I don't want to dwell on this because I can not tell you who to respect. I No be your mama.

Seems you don't know him enough.

Anas09:

When you grow old, may you never have a discussion with those younger than you. May they completely ignore and relegate you. If you try to join in a discussion, may they do to you what you are doing here. No wahala.

This one you are getting emotional for nothing. I have younger siblings. I have nieces and nephews. But won't it be silly of me not to respect my age and start meddling in their quarrels like I'm their mates? Coming down to their level and be trolling them? I can't believe you are endorsing immaturity here. Like seriously?

Anas09:

If you meant this to be an insult, then you failed. You don't know my history in Nairaland if you do you, you shd know how thick-skinned I am.
You be childs for mouth. I don repent so move along.


I'm beginning to perceive a teenager behind this Moniker. Maybe I shd stop responding to you.

I asked you what the person did before he was called a Charlatan and a demonologist.
I didn't see the Post where he was called that. But till now, you didn't answer that post.
Here you are thinking you can insult me since your mouth is bigger than mine.

Awww, the emotions are in full display here. Anas09, I think you just want to hear what pleases you, rather than the bitter truth. If the truth is an insult to you, kpele dear.

I have told you what exactly the issue is here. Hypocrisy, double standards. Someone with a log in the eye should remove it first before trying to remove the speck in another person's eye. If calling of names is not Christlike, what exactly is Christlike in labelling one a charlatan and demonologist? If you can't answer this, please move on.

Anas09:

Listen. You may think you are young so your insults to your seniors shd hurt, but even if you are 20yrs, you are an old man to someone else. So don't worry, you shall grow old, or if you hate old age, may you never grow old so that the younger ones wouldn't have to insult you by calling you old man.

Just see what someone typed with emotions overflowing. I'd like to know what exactly the insult is in telling one the blunt truth.

What kind of elder argues anyhow with people far younger than his age? Why not drop your comments, move on and see how everything unfolds to prove you either right or wrong?

There must be more to this whole thing, and we are gradually seeing how it is playing out.

Anas09:

By all means you are trying to tell yourself that I don't believe in Pa Hagin's ministry. Hahahahahahaha. Sorry, hold something else.

How many of his books have you read? How many of them talks abt satan and demons unendingly?

Madam, abeg you no get point jare.

You asked for where Hagin spoke on the subject matter of demons. I showed you some screenshots from the Triumphant Church.

Now it is about how many books of his I read, and how many of them talks on Satan and Demons. I love this, keep shifting the goalpost.

Anas09:
And Okcornel. When I engage people, I focus on the Op not the person I'm engaging. But, If you want to insult me personally let me know so that I can open a thread for that purpose, when you have your fill, you can breath down and work tall telling yourself how good you are at insults.

Only the unintelligent and people with complex attack persons instead if issues.

Anas09, what is your definition of insult?

Please point out the insults I've heaped on you on this thread. If you can't show any, then I might just take you for a liar as well.

Better don't let your emotions get the better of you. If you can't sustain the discussion, it's advisable you either hit the un-follow button or don't bother mentioning me.

OkCornel:


Anas09, what is your definition of insult?

Please point out the insults I've heaped on you on this thread.

Better don't let your emotions get the better of you. If you can't sustain the discussion, it's advisable you either hit the un-follow button or don't bother mentioning me

Lol. You can't wait to see be gone ba? Well, like i said, you don't know me. And very few monikers here know who I was here. I am not a push about. You can never in your wildest dreams make me do anything I don't want to. Not even Seun.
I and S.eun clashed here with one of my handles he banned me till 2028 since 2015. I no dey fear satan, no be him agents I go fear.

If you can't see the jabs in your comments then continue.

Anas09:

Lol. You can't wait to see be gone ba? Well, like i said, you don't know me. And very few monikers here know who I was here. I am not a push about. You can never in your wildest dreams make me do anything I don't want to. Not even Seun.
I and S.eun clashed here with one of my handles he banned me till 2028 since 2015. I no dey fear satan, no be him agents I go fear.

If you can't see the jabs in your comments then continue.

So what do you think I want to do to you? Provoke you? What value will that one add to me or the truth on this thread?

There is no point in being emotional over nothing. By the way, it is lovely how you can quickly see and interpret jabs in my comments, but turned a close eye to that of those in your camp.

Did you ever consider how those you and your camp directed your messages to on this thread also felt?

If I talk double standards now, you'll interpret it as an insult.

Anas09:

Lol. You can't wait to see be gone ba? Well, like i said, you don't know me. And very few monikers here know who I was here. I am not a push about. You can never in your wildest dreams make me do anything I don't want to. Not even Seun.
I and S.eun clashed here with one of my handles he banned me till 2028 since 2015. I no dey fear satan, no be him agents I go fear.

If you can't see the jabs in your comments then continue.

From a follower of your old moniker (Analice. Even though I had an issue or two with how u went about certain things sha) Abeg free that guy... He won't stop... I know him to be a back and forth person (eg insisting that tithing be paid with grains, farm produce etc)... Op, I personally don't see the point talking about the different levels of demons and their numbers. But oh well... We all don't have to agree on everyhing... Initially, your talk on cultism and all were accompanied with how Jesus gave you victory and how u overcame... But now, it's all how one demon is more ruthless than the other and nothing more... I honestly don't see the point of all that if they'll not be followed with testimonies but I can only say you should do as the Spirit leads..

Anas09:

How do you know his age? I don't want to dwell on this because I can not tell you who to respect. I No be your mama.


When you grow old, may you never have a discussion with those younger than you. May they completely ignore and relegate you. If you try to join in a discussion, may they do to you what you are doing here. No wahala.


If you meant this to be an insult, then you failed. You don't know my history in Nairaland if you do you, you shd know how thick-skinned I am.
You be childs for mouth. I don repent so move along.


I'm beginning to perceive a teenager behind this Moniker. Maybe I shd stop responding to you.

I asked you what the person did before he was called a Charlatan and a demonologist.
I didn't see the Post where he was called that. But till now, you didn't answer that post.
Here you are thinking you can insult me since your mouth is bigger than mine.

Listen. You may think you are young so your insults to your seniors shd hurt, but even if you are 20yrs, you are an old man to someone else. So don't worry, you shall grow old, or if you hate old age, may you never grow old so that the younger ones wouldn't have to insult you by calling you old man.

As I began to follow your discuss with the cornel, I was saying Ana's has changed oo,

She is having a discuss with someone in such a civil manner.. until I saw this...

Am sure you could have ignore the insult instead you gave him double barrel.

Not good madam.. Not good..

Take things easy...

The truth is every one walk with God is different. Let just accommodate one and another

Let strive and insult not be heard among us.

Please take things easy

OkCornel:


Madam, abeg you no get point jare.

You asked for where Hagin spoke on the subject matter of demons. I showed you some screenshots from the Triumphant Church.

Now it is about how many books of his I read, and how many of them talks on Satan and Demons. I love this, keep shifting the goalpost.

Oga you get plenty points as you keep trying to veer the discussion off from the Bible to Personal encounters of people?

Open your ears and hear. I do not doubt that Hagin had an encounter with Jesus, but that is besides the point. I talked about the teachings of Jesus in the Bible but all you bring is Pa Hagin's encounter. What about those who don't believe in his ministry? How wld you convince them?

Your mentor Jesusjnr does not believe in the ministry of Apst Paul, so you quoting Paul (who is in the Bible o) doesn't make sense to him. How wld you using Pa Hagin's encounter make sense to others?

Jesus Teachings in the Bible is universally accepted, let's go with that.

madprophet:



As I began to follow your discuss with the cornel, I was saying Ana's has changed oo,

She is having a discuss with someone in such a civil manner.. until I saw this...

Am sure you could have ignore the insult instead you gave him double barrel.

Not good madam.. Not good..

Take things easy...

The truth is every one walk with God is different. Let just accommodate one and another

Let strive and insult not be heard among us.

Please take things easy

Okay sir.

Anas09:

Oga you get plenty points as you keep trying to veer the discussion off from the Bible to Personal encounters of people?

Open your ears and hear. I do not doubt that Hagin had an encounter with Jesus, but that is besides the point. I talked about the teachings of Jesus in the Bible but all you bring is Pa Hagin's encounter. What about those who don't believe in his ministry? How wld you convince them?

Your mentor Jesusjnr does not believe in the ministry of Apst Paul, so you quoting Paul (who is in the Bible o) doesn't make sense to him. How wld you using Pa Hagin's encounter make sense to others?

Jesus Teachings in the Bible is universally accepted, let's go with that.

Since when did Jesusjnr become my mentor? Oh well, I guess this isn't a jab from you

That I agree with him on a subject matter today means we are in the same league forever?

Sorry dear, don't be surprised we'll have our disputes on another subject matter like Paul and Barnabas once did. Yet Paul & Barnabas still went about doing the Lord's work without grudges for one another.

Likewise, if I'm in agreement with you on another subject matter ( unfortunately not this one), it doesn't mean we'll be on the same page forever.

Disputes are bound to occur. It's inevitable, especially when one takes offence easily.


Concerning Pa Hagin's matter, if you read his book rather than arguing here, you would have seen his revelations sufficiently backed up with the scriptures. Even the few screenshots I uploaded on this thread attests to that.

Ginalex:
From a follower of your old moniker (Analice. Even though I had an issue or two with how u went about certain things sha) Abeg free that guy... He won't stop... I know him to be a back and forth person (eg insisting that tithing be paid with grains, farm produce etc)... Op, I personally don't see the point talking about the different levels of demons and their numbers. But oh well... We all don't have to agree on everyhing... Initially, your talk on cultism and all were accompanied with how Jesus gave you victory and how u overcame... But now, it's all how one demon is more ruthless than the other and nothing more... I honestly don't see the point of all that if they'll not be followed by testimonies but I can only say you should do as the Spirit leads..

@Bolded. I saw him the original 'Say No to Cultism[/b] thread in Crime section. As a Christian when he said he wld take cultism from the spiritual abgle, I rushed him. I had never even seen his moniker until then. Only to get here looking to see how those trapped can come out through Jesus. because so many are trapped in fear of death if they come out.

How can they come out? If you were there and today you are free, pls help othets. How did you do it? Instead, Okcornel boasted and said they are Cowards to be fearful. That tin pain me reach bone.

No one who loves to see souls won wld ever say a thing like that.

Anyway, I'd leave him be.

Sorry for bashing you with Analice can Moniker. Analice was too stubborn she has been banned till 2028.

Anas09:

@Bolded. I saw him the original 'Say No to Cultism[/b] thread in Crime section. As a Christian when he said he wld take cultism from the spiritual abgle, I rushed him. I had never even seen his moniker until then. Only to get here looking to see how those trapped can come out through Jesus. because so many are trapped in fear of death if they come out.

How can they come out? If you were there and today you are free, pls help othets. How did you do it? Instead, Okcornel boasted and said they are Cowards to be fearful. That tin pain me reach bone.

No one who loves to see souls won wld ever say a thing like that.

Anyway, I'd leave him be.

Sorry for bashing you with Analice can Moniker. Analice was too stubborn she has been banned till 2028.

Wow, so I've committed an offence by repeatedly stating why people are susceptible to fear? And that I am boastful? I am boastful in telling people to focus on the testimonies of victories over evil rather than focus on the powers of the kingdom of darkness?

It's amazing how people interpret things here just to earn sympathy.

OkCornel:


So what do you think I want to do to you? Provoke you? What value will that one add to me or the truth on this thread?

There is no point in being emotional over nothing. By the way, it is lovely how you can quickly see and interpret jabs in my comments, but turned a close eye to that of those in your camp.

Did you ever consider how those you and your camp directed your messages to on this thread also felt?

If I talk double standards now, you'll interpret it as an insult.

Which Camp are you talking abt?
Me and who are in this camp?

Double standard say I dey both camps?
Your camp and which Camp again?
You know weytin be double standardness sef?
If I dey double standard i for dey suport you and dey suport another person.
Who I dey even support here since?

Oh, because I tell you not to insult your elders mean say I take him side? Really?

I no get sides here. Di only side wey I dey na Jesus side. Bible side.

Check my discussions with him on Homosexuality and see how it went.
I no dey look person face, no body but Jesus die for me. E no concern me weytin you say abt me, dat na your bizness.

If I no see am for Bible, I no dey believe am. E no concern me weda you be Pope.

So. I no get camps.

On that note, I will drop you here. Na here be your last Bustoo. I have made my points.

CharlyG in his thread will reveal to people demonic activities especially in films/cartoons and tell us how they can penetrate into peoples consciousness and then tell us how to avoid them.

Once in a while I go in there silently read and leave.

I was very active in that thread, but when it became so much about dreams interpretation, I told him about it. I told him that many contributors may leave, he never threatened me.

But. Here is a different case.

OKcornel, I wish you good fortunes in your Christian walk. But if you walk without carrying the interest of others in your mind, then you don't know what Jesus means by 'Love your Neighbor as you love yourself'.
Goodbye. As far as this issue goes.

OkCornel:


Since when did Jesusjnr become my mentor? Oh well, I guess this isn't a jab from you

That I agree with him on a subject matter today means we are in the same league forever?

Sorry dear, don't be surprised we'll have our disputes on another subject matter like Paul and Barnabas once did. Yet Paul & Barnabas still went about doing the Lord's work without grudges for one another.

Likewise, if I'm in agreement with you on another subject matter ( unfortunately not this one), it doesn't mean we'll be on the same page forever.

Disputes are bound to occur. It's inevitable, especially when one takes offence easily.


Concerning Pa Hagin's matter, if you read his book rather than arguing here, you would have seen his revelations sufficiently backed up with the scriptures. Even the few screenshots I uploaded on this thread attests to that.

You and Pa Hagins. How many times shd i say I'm not against him?

Anas09:

Which Camp are you talking abt?
Me and who are in this camp?

Double standard say I dey both camps?
Your camp and which Camp again?
You know weytin be double standardness sef?
If I dey double standard i for dey suport you and dey suport another person.
Who I dey even support here since?

Oh, because I tell you not to insult your elders mean say I take him side? Really?

I no get sides here. Di only side wey I dey na Jesus side. Bible side.

Check my discussions with him on Homosexuality and see how it went.
I no dey look person face, no body but Jesus die for me. E no concern me weytin you say abt me, dat na your bizness.

If I no see am for Bible, I no dey believe am. E no concern me weda you be Pope.

So. I no get camps.

On that note, I will drop you here. Na here be your last Bustoo. I have made my points.

CharlyG in his thread will reveal to people demonic activities especially in films/cartoons and tell us how they can penetrate into peoples consciousness and then tell us how to avoid them.

Once in a while I go in there silently read and leave.

I was very active in that thread, but when it became so much about dreams interpretation, I told him about it. I told him that many contributors may leave, he never threatened me.

But. Here is a different case.

OKcornel, I wish you good fortunes in your Christian walk. But if you walk without carrying the interest of others in your mind, then you don't know what Jesus means by 'Love your Neighbor as you love yourself'.
Goodbye. As far as this issue goes.

Lol, I guess loving my neighbor includes turning a blind eye to his shortcomings.

Let us be sincere and blunt with one another. Call a spade a spade, not teaspoon.

I also hope the gossip you got on the OP in your inbox today as your padi promised was really worth it.

Cheers...

Anas09:

You and Pa Hagins. How many times shd i say I'm not against him?

What then is the difference between Pa Hagin and OPs expose on the works of darkness and testimonies of victories?

OkCornel:


Lol, I guess loving my neighbor includes turning a blind eye to his shortcomings.

Let us be sincere and blunt with one another. Call a spade a spade, not teaspoon.

I also hope the gossip you got on the OP in your inbox today as your padi promised was really worth it.

Cheers...

Lol. I have not received any gossip and I don't gossip. Gossip is of the devil. It's a weapon of satan and I don't use his weapons.

If he sends me what I don't agree with, I'd tell him so.

Anas09:

Lol. I have not received any gossip and I don't gossip. Gossip is of the devil. It's a weapon of satan and I don't use his weapons.

If he sends me what I don't agree with, I'd tell him so.

Nice, I like that.

OkCornel:


My questions;

1) Who limited the word of God to 66 books?
2) Are you aware the first version of KJV (1611 KJV) is more than 66 books?
3) Has the Ethiopian Church with the oldest version of the bible acted wrongly by canonizing the book of Enoch?

Dude the 66books is more than enough for Christains if one have issues regarding any book the HolySpirit is there to put him through period.
Adding a verse to that 66books is not of God.

ichuka:

Dude the 66books is more than enough for Christains if one have issues regarding any book the HolySpirit is there to put him through period.
Adding a verse to that 66books is not of God.

Bros, please don't bring this up again . So our eternal, omniscient, omnipresent God who has been existing long before man thought of inventing paper and ink limited His words to only 66 books? And since then, God has not been talking?

Please don't confuse the written version of TRUTH to be the absolute and complete TRUTH.

Lemme ask you something, if God reveals something to you that will eventually come to pass in Nigeria, is that prophecy your word or God's word?

Besides, are you aware the first version of KJV bible contained more than 66 books (1611 KJV)? I don't want to go down this lane anymore please.

CodeTemplar:
Please I would love to hear more about this spiritual prison. i think it is personal to me and take it so.

The prison is more complicated than cage or bottle, because most people who have been tied down in cages or people who some aspects of their lives has been locked up in bottles can detect easily, but for those in prisons it's more difficult.

A prison is quite big, and in prisons you're allowed to move around within the prison vicinity, unlike cages, so that's why it's more difficult to detect.

This is why every Christian has to know God's purpose for his/her life and be led by the Spirit, cos it's only when you really know God's purpose for your life that you can actually know if you're where God wants you to be or not.

There are some signs through dreams,like dreaming where you're moving around aimlessly, or seeing yourself in a pit, or in places without outlets, or seeing yourself in the dream where you're stuck at one spot, or seeing yourself trying to come out of a place and the door shots on you, e.t.c

MIKESTUNNA:
Goodmorning enthronedbyGod,i have been following this thread and waiting for u to hit the nail on the head.i have been experiencing this cobweb attacks too for a loxg time.i have gone for deliverance sessions many times but to no avail.The best they tell me is that it is from my parents which is true but nothing more(i know it might sound absurd when i concur

How do you know it's from your parents, did God give you a vision or dream regarding such.

You don't just believe anything you're told unless you have a witness in your spirit, cos there are so many false deliverance ministers out there. I'm not saying it can't be true, but I'm trying to make you thread with caution.

I know the issue of household enemies are real,cos I'm a living witness, but one just has to be careful.

God bless

MIKESTUNNA:
pls i need to speak with you in private.my email add is satanhaslost@yahoo.com. thank u.

I'll send you an email today if I'm opportune, but if not tomorrow.
Stay blessed

Unmhnm, Battles of the Brethren!!
Please let us all beware.

1 Peter 3:8-11

Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:

9. Not rendering evil for evil, or reviling for reviling: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.

10. For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:

11. Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it.

OkCornel:


Hi, there's something I want to confirm.

How can you tell if someone's issue is self inflicted by ignorance, as opposed to witchcraft manipulations, demonic attacks and the likes? (I know the default answer is Holy Spirit )

There are people who attribute their failures and backwardness in life to others, as opposed to taking self responsibility.

This is my major concern with matters of deliverance in Nigeria especially.

Unfortunately, there's also the part of fraudulent MOGs pouring fuel into such fires of ignorance.

You have any experiences to share in this regard?

Well you already answered the question yourself- As many as are led by the Spirit of God.......

There is nothing like spirit of discernment, what people call spirit of discernment most times is a judgmental spirit, what we have is discerning of spirits and word of knowledge which go hand in hand.

I don't really have any experience as regards self inflicted problems, but I know there are people who have self inflicted problems and claim it's witchcraft or blame it on others.

OkCornel:


Bros, please don't bring this up again . So our eternal, omniscient, omnipresent God who has been existing long before man thought of inventing paper and ink limited His words to only 66 books? And since then, God has not been talking?

Please don't confuse the written version of TRUTH to be the absolute and complete TRUTH.

Lemme ask you something, if God reveals something to you that will eventually come to pass in Nigeria, is that prophecy your word or God's word?

Besides, are you aware the first version of KJV bible contained more than 66 books (1611 KJV)? I don't want to go down this lane anymore please.

Any so called prophecy that's not in line with the bible is from the pit of hell shekina.
God is not an authur of confusion.

ichuka:

Any so called prophecy that's not in line with the bible is from the pit of hell shekina.
God is not an authur of confusion.

When God gives you a prophecy concerning Nigeria, and that prophecy comes to pass. You will still look for where that prophecy was written in the Bible?

The way Christians have magnified the product (Bible) over and above the source (Spirit of God).

Please, I did not say Bible is not the word of God o. But all of God's word cannot be contained in a collection of books.

jesusjnr:


Now I think @EnthronedbyGod has to help us clarify something that has puzzled me even up til this very point, which is, what brought him to the thread where this picture of Jesus was first uploaded by @OkCornel for me to confirm if it was indeed the face of Jesus who appeared to me, because the topic of the thread had nothing to do with the appearance of Jesus.

And though I had plans to bring it to him later on to him to confirm if it was who he also saw, I was shocked to find him there all of a sudden, and I was like, no way?

At the same time I was anxious to find out what his thoughts were concerning those pictures, because I had already given my own opinion that it was the face which I saw briefly of Jesus, particularly the second one in that post.

I know that he was led of the Spirit of God to that thread at that point in time, but I would like to hear from him The details, because obviously it confirmed how those who are led by the Spirit hardly miss out

God bless.

I can't say if this your question came at the right time or wrong, cos of the accusations that have been flying around, however I'm not moved by popular opinion, so I'll reply you.


A young man asked me if Jesus looked like most of the Jesus pics and I told him no, cos I had never seen any close to it.

The night before I came across the pics, I lay down speaking in tongues and it was as if I was feeling sleepy, suddenly I saw myself with my phone on nairaland on that exact thread where the pics was.


I logged in the next morning before 11am and came straight to the thread and it was what I saw the previous night, that was why I told you to post it here before I came back online in the evening , and I logged off immediately.

That was the only thing I came to do online that morning of thesame day when I logged in.

You can confirm through my posts and you'll see that it was the only post I made that morning of same day.


God bless

EnthronedbyGod:
How do we overcome these evil forces.

1- You must put on the whole armour of God.

2- You must be a man of prayer.
Witchcraft forces aren't so interested in how much Bible you can quote , but how much power your prayer life commands.

3- You must be a man of word revelations and know who you are in Christ, I don't mean mental knowledge of scriptures,cos that's what more than 95% of christians have. I mean contacting the Spirit behind the letter.

4- You must strive to overcome your weaknesses, cos that's the easiest route they use to penetrate.

5- You must be spiritually sensitive and alert in the spirit.

6- You must be violent( I mean determined) in prayers and know how to use weapons like the blood of Jesus, the fire of the Holy Ghost, hailstones, earthquake,thunder, e.t.c

The bolded is not true !
The bible says in the book of Hebrews "For the Word of God is quick and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit..."
Again, it says in the book of Ephesians "...the sword of the spirit, which is the Word of God "
Be more careful what you teach !
Jesus Christ is the WORD OF GOD!

sagacioustony:
Thanks for the courage to share your past experience.

All what you have said is real. If only people will come and share theirs.

I sometimes have a bunk or room mate like that, his was even a pastor in one of the big Church and the son is a worker in the church playing instrument but a very dangerous cultists in school though I don't know if has repented fully, because is like the parents are aware it.

God bless.

I had a friend who was also a dedicated axemen whose father was a general overseer.

@enthroanedbyGod stop giving witches any importance !
Jesus said "I beheld satan as lightening fall from heaven.
Behold, I give unto you power to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you .
Notwithstanding, in this rejoice not that the spirits are subject unto you, but rather, rejoice because your names are written in heaven."