PrimadonnaO:


Oga, calm down and stop making interpretations from thin air. Trying to twist things with your own logic.

Fruit juice wasn't mentioned anywhere, biko. Fruit juice indeed!

If Proverbs 23:31 says we shouldn't look at a certain type of wine talkless of drinking it, wouldn't it be absurd if Paul was giving people alcoholic wine as Holy Communion? If it wasn't fruit juice he gave them, then tell me the type of wine he gave them, holding in mind that Proverbs said we shouldn't look at a certain type of wine. What is that type of wine we are not to look at? Mention the name. Well, to help you, just at read beyond verse 31 and you will see that it is alcoholic wine or drink. Yet, you say Paul disobeyed that scripture by giving people that wine to drink.

alBHAGDADI:

Hello,

There's this wrong believe among Christians that the Bible supports drinking alcohol but only in moderation. They say we can drink alcohol but we shouldn't get drunk. Well, I will be using Bible verses to show that Christians are not to look at alcohol not to talk of drinking it. Also, this thread will debunk common lies told to support drinking alcohol e.g Jesus turning water to wine.

The word wine is mentioned 231 times in the Bible. But the mistake we make today is that we think the wine mentioned is just alcholic wine. Half the time wine is mentioned in the Bible, it is about fruit juice.

In the Greek and Hebrew languages in which the Bible was written in, the word translated as wine was used to refer to alcohol and also fruit juice. So when those who translated the Bible into English did so, they had to look for an English word which could mean alcoholic beverage and fruit juice. That word is wine. You might wonder why the translators didn't make things easy for us by just writing fruit juice when the verse is talking of fruit juice and write alcoholic beverage when it's about alcohol. The thing is, doing such would mean they are injecting their own idea into the Bible.

Now, in modern times, we have this believe that wine means an alcoholic drinks. That's why we think the word wine in the Bible is always referring to alcohol. Let's me show you that wine in the Bible doesn't always mean alcoholic beverage but fruit juice.



As seen above, wine is found in the cluster i.e wine still in the cluster of grapes. This is purely fruit juice and not alcoholic.

However, grapes usually have a white powdery film around it called yeast. It is that yeast that is made use of to make alcoholic wine. They crush the grapes and in the process the yeast mixed with the fruit juice that was inside grape cluster. Next fermentation takes place then the result if alcoholic wine. Most times, wine makers add more yeast to attain the desired alcohol level. So you see, wine moved from normal fruit juice before it became alcoholic wine after yeast was added.

Now, there are two types of wine as explained above: The alcoholic and fruit juice. There's a certain type of wine the Bible said we shouldn't even look at, not to talk of touching our lips with it. Read the passage below.



The verse above is talking about alcoholic wine. It even describes fermentation process. It says we shouldn't even look at that type of wine. Yet some folks say we can drink it in moderation.



It describes the feeling one gets after drinking alcohol. It's a horrible feeling.



Have you ever had alcohol such that after taking it, women whom you would never touch with a ten foot poll suddenly start looking attractive to you? The above verse describes it as the effect of alcohol. It also describes how you start saying all sorts of junks which you would not normal say.



Remember when you lie down after taking alcohol and the whole bed seems like you are swimming, and also you feel like you are floating and your eyes being dizzy. That's the feeling described.



After the whole horrible night and you wake up to hangover, what's the cure drunkards usual prescribe? They say to cure hangover, start drinking again. That's what the above passage described.

Yet, some people say we can drink alcohol in moderation and that it only becomes a sin when we get drunk. Sorry buddy, the Bible says don't even look at it.

The Bible doesn't say we should drink alcohol in moderation. It says we should be sober at all times (1 Thessalonians 5:6 Titus 2:3).

Now let's see the common verses people love to twist to try to say we can drink alcohol

The first is found in the passage where Jesus turned water into wine. They fail to realize that it was fruit juice kind of wine, not the alcoholic or fermented one. Let's examine the passage carefully.



According to some people, it was alcoholic wine Jesus turned water into and gave the people at the wedding to drink. However, a closer look shows that not to be the case.

Pay close attention to verse 10 where the Bible says when men have well drunk. Let's see how the New International Version (NIV) renders that verse.



If it was alcoholic wine Jesus turned water into, then it basically means he wanted to destroy the guests at the wedding. After they have had too much to drink, Jesus decided to give them more. That means if there were cars back then, many would have accidentally on their way home. Remember the passage in Proverbs 23 which talks about the horrible effects alcohol. If we say these people were already drunk on alcohol, then Jesus just helped them double those effect in their life by giving them more. This means they would start to behold strange women and say perverse things. Now, tell me, who would want to listen to Jesus preach the next morning after the "alcoholic wine" he gave them to drink made some of the men to sleep with their housemaid to the anger of their wives? Made them to saw perverse things to their boss? Made them to sleep in the gutter? Yet you say Jesus gave people alcohol to drink.

Jesus didn't give anybody alcohol to drink. Doing so would mean he's a liar. Remember what he said in the passage below.



If it was alcoholic wine Jesus turned water into at the wedding in Cana, then he abolished the law and the prophet which spoke against alcoholic wine in Proverbs 23:31. So clearly it wasn't alcoholic wine he turned water into but fruit juice.

Another passage people love to use for an excuse to drink alcohol is seen below.

Mathew 11:18-19
18 For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil.
19 The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.

The above passage talks about a false accusations against Jesus who pointed out how they also falsely accused John the Baptist. Yet, some people will say because Jesus was accused of being a drunkard then it means he use to drink alcohol. Was John the Baptist possessed with a devil? No, but he was accused of such. I now wonder why you believe Jesus drank alcohol due to some false accusations. Remember, the accusation is that he was a drunkard. So if you use this verse to justify drinking alcohol, then don't get angry when some tells you that Jesus use to fall into gutter after getting drunk; he use to behold strange women and say perverse things. Can you see how wrong they are with their interpretation of the passage?

Another verse they use is seen below.




They pick the verse out context and say God is telling us that we can buy alcohol and drink it. If you read the previous verses, you will see that the context is about tithing. Those items listed alongside strong drink are to be brought to the temple for sacrifice to God. Some are eating, but it excludes the strong drink because nowhere in the above passage does it say drink the strong drink, same way it doesn't say drink the oil. Now, see what the strong drink is used for.



The strong drink or wine is poured out onto the Lord for a drink offering. It is not to be drank at all. But people have twisted the verse in Deutoronomy 14:26 to mean God is saying we can drink alcohol even when he said in Proverbs 23 that we shouldn't even look at it.

Guys, drinking alcohol is a sin and every Christian should abstain from it. Don't let anybody fool you into think moderation is the key. A little sip sends your good sense of judgment out the window. That's when another glass or bottle won't seem like a bad idea. And note, wine has tripple alcohol content that four bottles of beer. So don't think drinking a glass of wine is sophisticated. You are emore alcoholic than the beer drinker.

Lol, I think you are just trying to justify your stance, anyone can take scriptures and make it say what ever they want it to say.

Alcohol is not bad, the abuse of alcohol is bad, food is not bad but over eating can have adverse effects on ones health. Many of us take syrup, there is some alcohol in most syrup medicine, does that make taking medicine bad?

God doesn't want anything to have control over man, man must always be in control, so if you can't control alcohol be sincere with yourself and stay away from it, abuse of alcohol is also the cause of a number of illness, therefore it's important to control it's intake. But don't discourage people who take alcohol responsibly.

alBHAGDADI:


Stop acting like you existed back then.

If wine was alcohol and the Bible in Proverbs 23:31 said we shouldn't look at it, can you say it is right that Jesus gave people such to drink? Wouldn't it mean he has abolished the law against alcoholic wine in Proverbs 23:31?

You are diviating from the point I made. Go and study history before you start making frivolous write-ups. You can't come out and twist the bible in such a way that will please your shallow mind. That's how Jehovah witness faithfuls will tell you that heaven is filled and the earth is paradise therein. My dear pray for the spirit of God to interpret the bible for you not the spirit of G.O end time ministers

I have never read one intelligent post from this OP

Congrats bro, you never disappoint

Frankiss44:



In as much as you wanna pass a message, you don't sound like a Christian who wanna win souls.. Your choice of words are a disgrace to the Christ you preach

No, they are a source of Joy to the Christ I preach. That same Christ was more harsh than I was against those who preached false doctrine. Remember how he almost dedicated a whole chapter towards saying "Woe to you Pharisees" as seen in Matthew 23:13-39.

Remember how he labeled a whole generation vipers.

Matthew 12:34-37 (KJV)
O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

If Jesus was the one typing on Nairaland, you would tell him he is not the Christ. Same mistake people of old made that made them kill him.

whirlwind7:
alBHAGDADI

I have a single question from here:

Numbers 28:7 (KJV)
7 And the drink offering thereof shall be the fourth part of an hin for the one lamb: in the holy place shalt thou cause the strong wine to be poured unto the Lord for a drink offering.

If God forbids people from looking at strong wine (alcohol) much less touching it, why then does he ask for something He forbids to be brought to him as offering?
In other words, why is He tempting people by getting them to handle alcohol which is to be given as offering to Him?

"Don't look at it" means don't look at it with the desire to drink it. It's the same as Jesus saying we shouldn't look at a woman with lust in our eyes. Does that mean we shouldn't look at women? No, we can look at women, but when we start to have lust for what we are looking at, it becomes sin.

So, God is not tempting you by saying you should bring alcohol to offer to him. Same way he's not tempting men by creating women. Once you remove lust from your heart, you won't have issues with alcohol and women.

alBHAGDADI:

Hello,

There's this wrong believe among Christians that the Bible supports drinking alcohol but only in moderation. They say we can drink alcohol but we shouldn't get drunk. Well, I will be using Bible verses to show that Christians are not to look at alcohol not to talk of drinking it. Also, this thread will debunk common lies told to support drinking alcohol e.g Jesus turning water to wine.

The word wine is mentioned 231 times in the Bible. But the mistake we make today is that we think the wine mentioned is just alcholic wine. Half the time wine is mentioned in the Bible, it is about fruit juice.

In the Greek and Hebrew languages in which the Bible was written in, the word translated as wine was used to refer to alcohol and also fruit juice. So when those who translated the Bible into English did so, they had to look for an English word which could mean alcoholic beverage and fruit juice. That word is wine. You might wonder why the translators didn't make things easy for us by just writing fruit juice when the verse is talking of fruit juice and write alcoholic beverage when it's about alcohol. The thing is, doing such would mean they are injecting their own idea into the Bible.

Now, in modern times, we have this believe that wine means an alcoholic drinks. That's why we think the word wine in the Bible is always referring to alcohol. Let's me show you that wine in the Bible doesn't always mean alcoholic beverage but fruit juice.



As seen above, wine is found in the cluster i.e wine still in the cluster of grapes. This is purely fruit juice and not alcoholic.

However, grapes usually have a white powdery film around it called yeast. It is that yeast that is made use of to make alcoholic wine. They crush the grapes and in the process the yeast mixed with the fruit juice that was inside grape cluster. Next fermentation takes place then the result if alcoholic wine. Most times, wine makers add more yeast to attain the desired alcohol level. So you see, wine moved from normal fruit juice before it became alcoholic wine after yeast was added.

Now, there are two types of wine as explained above: The alcoholic and fruit juice. There's a certain type of wine the Bible said we shouldn't even look at, not to talk of touching our lips with it. Read the passage below.



The verse above is talking about alcoholic wine. It even describes fermentation process. It says we shouldn't even look at that type of wine. Yet some folks say we can drink it in moderation.



It describes the feeling one gets after drinking alcohol. It's a horrible feeling.



Have you ever had alcohol such that after taking it, women whom you would never touch with a ten foot poll suddenly start looking attractive to you? The above verse describes it as the effect of alcohol. It also describes how you start saying all sorts of junks which you would not normal say.



Remember when you lie down after taking alcohol and the whole bed seems like you are swimming, and also you feel like you are floating and your eyes being dizzy. That's the feeling described.



After the whole horrible night and you wake up to hangover, what's the cure drunkards usual prescribe? They say to cure hangover, start drinking again. That's what the above passage described.

Yet, some people say we can drink alcohol in moderation and that it only becomes a sin when we get drunk. Sorry buddy, the Bible says don't even look at it.

The Bible doesn't say we should drink alcohol in moderation. It says we should be sober at all times (1 Thessalonians 5:6 Titus 2:3).

Now let's see the common verses people love to twist to try to say we can drink alcohol

The first is found in the passage where Jesus turned water into wine. They fail to realize that it was fruit juice kind of wine, not the alcoholic or fermented one. Let's examine the passage carefully.



According to some people, it was alcoholic wine Jesus turned water into and gave the people at the wedding to drink. However, a closer look shows that not to be the case.

Pay close attention to verse 10 where the Bible says when men have well drunk. Let's see how the New International Version (NIV) renders that verse.



If it was alcoholic wine Jesus turned water into, then it basically means he wanted to destroy the guests at the wedding. After they have had too much to drink, Jesus decided to give them more. That means if there were cars back then, many would have accidentally on their way home. Remember the passage in Proverbs 23 which talks about the horrible effects alcohol. If we say these people were already drunk on alcohol, then Jesus just helped them double those effect in their life by giving them more. This means they would start to behold strange women and say perverse things. Now, tell me, who would want to listen to Jesus preach the next morning after the "alcoholic wine" he gave them to drink made some of the men to sleep with their housemaid to the anger of their wives? Made them to saw perverse things to their boss? Made them to sleep in the gutter? Yet you say Jesus gave people alcohol to drink.

Jesus didn't give anybody alcohol to drink. Doing so would mean he's a liar. Remember what he said in the passage below.



If it was alcoholic wine Jesus turned water into at the wedding in Cana, then he abolished the law and the prophet which spoke against alcoholic wine in Proverbs 23:31. So clearly it wasn't alcoholic wine he turned water into but fruit juice.

Another passage people love to use for an excuse to drink alcohol is seen below.

Mathew 11:18-19
18 For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil.
19 The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.

The above passage talks about a false accusations against Jesus who pointed out how they also falsely accused John the Baptist. Yet, some people will say because Jesus was accused of being a drunkard then it means he use to drink alcohol. Was John the Baptist possessed with a devil? No, but he was accused of such. I now wonder why you believe Jesus drank alcohol due to some false accusations. Remember, the accusation is that he was a drunkard. So if you use this verse to justify drinking alcohol, then don't get angry when some tells you that Jesus use to fall into gutter after getting drunk; he use to behold strange women and say perverse things. Can you see how wrong they are with their interpretation of the passage?

Another verse they use is seen below.




They pick the verse out context and say God is telling us that we can buy alcohol and drink it. If you read the previous verses, you will see that the context is about tithing. Those items listed alongside strong drink are to be brought to the temple for sacrifice to God. Some are eating, but it excludes the strong drink because nowhere in the above passage does it say drink the strong drink, same way it doesn't say drink the oil. Now, see what the strong drink is used for.



The strong drink or wine is poured out onto the Lord for a drink offering. It is not to be drank at all. But people have twisted the verse in Deutoronomy 14:26 to mean God is saying we can drink alcohol even when he said in Proverbs 23 that we shouldn't even look at it.

Guys, drinking alcohol is a sin and every Christian should abstain from it. Don't let anybody fool you into think moderation is the key. A little sip sends your good sense of judgment out the window. That's when another glass or bottle won't seem like a bad idea. And note, wine has tripple alcohol content that four bottles of beer. So don't think drinking a glass of wine is sophisticated. You are emore alcoholic than the beer drinker.

Nice article but quite fallacious!!! There's nothing wrong in consuming what God has created but in adequate measure!! Anyway you've just created massive traffic for NL, the "not" in your topic is silently removed and SEO dead!!!

Hypocrites everywhere, you don't want to drink and you don't want others to drink. The funniest thing is that those preaching against drinking wine have them stocked in their closet, then I ask for who?. Unless one has health complication that forbids wine, wine is good both for the body and the soul. anybody that doesn't drink wine does not know what he is missing. It gives joy and inspiration.

alBHAGDADI:


Please don't be openly daft. I told you to go back and read the OP, you refused, only to come back with an argument the OP already addressed - Jesus turning water into wine.

If you had followed my advice, you won't be making an open display of ignorance. Take my advice this time and get your lips away from alcohol. It's Sunday morning.

Why are you so rude about this topic? Of all the comments I've read so far yours is just.... I dont know bro, and you're a Christian who doesn't drink, yet....Hmm. Your conduct reminds me of the passage which says " they attack with violence what they do not understand ".

ibechris:




Stop confusing Yourself my friend. Stop twisting the Bible...any fruit juice that stays above 24hours will eventually ferment and turn to a strong wine...so which wine are u talking about again. Even fresh palm wine ferments aggressively under 24 hours. Why are u twisting the word of God upside down.

Non-alcoholic wine are made based on demand back then. Or else it will ferment into alcohol. Isaiah 65:8 says what you find in the cluster of grapes is wine. But today, such is said to be fruit juice. What wine was the Bible talking about that is found in the cluster of grapes?

MrPresident1:


Asteroid is coming, asteroid is coming, protect your skulls in Jesus.

Before 30th September 2019

you've been shouting this bullshit since time past and every year, well, if asteroid didn't show up on 30th of September, I'll look for you, I'll find you and I'll dealt with you!

Dollarseeker:
alBHAGDADI

its your type that would open a church and begin to teach rubbish. u lack Gods wisdom and the gift of the Holy Spirit. Seek for the wisdom of God and ask questions. Don't just read your bible and preach what you understand. If only you commune with with Holy Spirit before dropping this trash, I believe he would have taught you the truth about drinking wine.

You lack the Holy Spirit in your life.

Truth>>>Drinking of wine, whether alcoholic or not, is not bad but should not be encourage. If one can resist it, then its very good. but if you want to take it, fine. But you must not get drunk cos the Bible condemns drunkenness because when you are drunk, you are prone to committing sin.

Please stop spreading false gospels, I beg you in the name of Christ. It is well with u....READ YOUR BIBLE BUT DON'T LEAN ON YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING.

Where does the Bible encourage drinking alcohol whether in moderation or not?

You will never find, yet you say I lack the holy Spirit.

alBHAGDADI:


Go and drink Sniper tonight.

Even Jesus didn't jump down when he was tempted by the devil to jump from a height despite the fact that nothing would have happened if he jumped. When devil tempted him the third time, he simply replied that the devil should get behind him. In the same vein I say to you 'Get behind me satan for it is written thou shall not tempt the Lord your God'. Paul would say it is not everything I can do that I should do. I obey voice of God not of demons like you. But I repeat stop spreading heresy...

Though I am not xtian.
I started reading from page one in the last two hrs and found myself at page 8.
It's been hilarious for and against the OP on the various verses in the Bible on wine.

Drunk was used as past tense.....lol. This your personal foolish interpretation can only work with your fellow gullible followers

zedman1:
Why are you so rude about this topic? Of all the comments I've read so far yours is just.... I dont know bro, and you're a Christian who doesn't drink, yet....Hmm. Your conduct reminds me of the passage which says " they attack with violence what they do not understand ".

Who should be labeled as rude?

The one who jumped on a subject without reading it or the one who cautions him for making a point without first reading the subject.

Tosinex:
Nice article but quite fallacious!!! There's nothing wrong in consuming what God has created but in adequate measure!! Anyway you've just created massive traffic for NL, the "not" in your topic is silently removed and SEO dead!!!

Weed was created by God, so go smoke it. Snake venom was created by God, so go allow a snake to bite you.

Chosen1984:
THE TRUTH IS BITTER BECAUSE IT HURTS.
Op, By the Spirit of GOD , you Have Dished out the Truth .. It will Hurt Many of Us but it is The Truth..

GOD BLESS U

It will be the truth to you because of low capacity to think

gabicon:


Lol, I think you are just trying to justify your stance, anyone can take scriptures and make it say what ever they want it to say.

Alcohol is not bad, the abuse of alcohol is bad, food is not bad but over eating can have adverse effects on ones health. Many of us take syrup, there is some alcohol in most syrup medicine, does that make taking medicine bad?

God doesn't want anything to have control over man, man must always be in control, so if you can't control alcohol be sincere with yourself and stay away from it, abuse of alcohol is also the cause of a number of illness, therefore it's important to control it's intake. But don't discourage people who take alcohol responsibly.

Yes, alcohol is not bad, but abuse by drinking it is what is a sin to God who said "don't look at it".

There's is alcohol in fruit juice and soft drinks, but in trace amount. That's why toddlers can walk up to a store and buy fruit juice without anyone worrying.

Also, alcohol exists in medicine but also in trace amount, most time not even up to a percent. But alcoholic wine has 12 percent alcohol, beer has 4percent. Stay away from them.

.

alBHAGDADI:


Weed was created by God, so go smoke it. Snake venom was created by God, so go allow a snake to bite you.

Ode ni e...oponu

itsMrIke:
OP will you keep quiet already.

After quoting Deuteronomy 14:26, you are still writing the thrash up there. So the phrase "whatsoever your soul lust after.." means what then. Then to quote context, you are bringing and entirely different book from the bible?

Such brazen display of wanton ignorance and foolery.

I am sure you will say communion wine is grape juice, yet you will ignore the part where Paul admonished the early Christians who get drunk on communion wine while others were yet to partake.

Go read your bible to understand and stop being clever by half.

don't mind the clown

Relax and enjoy yourself after church

loswhite:
It will be the truth to you because of low capacity to think

Rapture will Tell who has low capacity sir.

GOD Bless you

THank you.
Can I do copy and paste?

alBHAGDADI:

Hello,

There's this wrong believe among Christians that the Bible supports drinking alcohol but only in moderation. They say we can drink alcohol but we shouldn't get drunk. Well, I will be using Bible verses to show that Christians are not to look at alcohol not to talk of drinking it. Also, this thread will debunk common lies told to support drinking alcohol e.g Jesus turning water to wine.

The word wine is mentioned 231 times in the Bible. But the mistake we make today is that we think the wine mentioned is just alcholic wine. Half the time wine is mentioned in the Bible, it is about fruit juice.

In the Greek and Hebrew languages in which the Bible was written in, the word translated as wine was used to refer to alcohol and also fruit juice. So when those who translated the Bible into English did so, they had to look for an English word which could mean alcoholic beverage and fruit juice. That word is wine. You might wonder why the translators didn't make things easy for us by just writing fruit juice when the verse is talking of fruit juice and write alcoholic beverage when it's about alcohol. The thing is, doing such would mean they are injecting their own idea into the Bible.

Now, in modern times, we have this believe that wine means an alcoholic drinks. That's why we think the word wine in the Bible is always referring to alcohol. Let's me show you that wine in the Bible doesn't always mean alcoholic beverage but fruit juice.



As seen above, wine is found in the cluster i.e wine still in the cluster of grapes. This is purely fruit juice and not alcoholic.

However, grapes usually have a white powdery film around it called yeast. It is that yeast that is made use of to make alcoholic wine. They crush the grapes and in the process the yeast mixed with the fruit juice that was inside grape cluster. Next fermentation takes place then the result if alcoholic wine. Most times, wine makers add more yeast to attain the desired alcohol level. So you see, wine moved from normal fruit juice before it became alcoholic wine after yeast was added.

Now, there are two types of wine as explained above: The alcoholic and fruit juice. There's a certain type of wine the Bible said we shouldn't even look at, not to talk of touching our lips with it. Read the passage below.



The verse above is talking about alcoholic wine. It even describes fermentation process. It says we shouldn't even look at that type of wine. Yet some folks say we can drink it in moderation.



It describes the feeling one gets after drinking alcohol. It's a horrible feeling.



Have you ever had alcohol such that after taking it, women whom you would never touch with a ten foot poll suddenly start looking attractive to you? The above verse describes it as the effect of alcohol. It also describes how you start saying all sorts of junks which you would not normal say.



Remember when you lie down after taking alcohol and the whole bed seems like you are swimming, and also you feel like you are floating and your eyes being dizzy. That's the feeling described.



After the whole horrible night and you wake up to hangover, what's the cure drunkards usual prescribe? They say to cure hangover, start drinking again. That's what the above passage described.

Yet, some people say we can drink alcohol in moderation and that it only becomes a sin when we get drunk. Sorry buddy, the Bible says don't even look at it.

The Bible doesn't say we should drink alcohol in moderation. It says we should be sober at all times (1 Thessalonians 5:6 Titus 2:3).

Now let's see the common verses people love to twist to try to say we can drink alcohol

The first is found in the passage where Jesus turned water into wine. They fail to realize that it was fruit juice kind of wine, not the alcoholic or fermented one. Let's examine the passage carefully.



According to some people, it was alcoholic wine Jesus turned water into and gave the people at the wedding to drink. However, a closer look shows that not to be the case.

Pay close attention to verse 10 where the Bible says when men have well drunk. Let's see how the New International Version (NIV) renders that verse.



If it was alcoholic wine Jesus turned water into, then it basically means he wanted to destroy the guests at the wedding. After they have had too much to drink, Jesus decided to give them more. That means if there were cars back then, many would have accidentally on their way home. Remember the passage in Proverbs 23 which talks about the horrible effects alcohol. If we say these people were already drunk on alcohol, then Jesus just helped them double those effect in their life by giving them more. This means they would start to behold strange women and say perverse things. Now, tell me, who would want to listen to Jesus preach the next morning after the "alcoholic wine" he gave them to drink made some of the men to sleep with their housemaid to the anger of their wives? Made them to saw perverse things to their boss? Made them to sleep in the gutter? Yet you say Jesus gave people alcohol to drink.

Jesus didn't give anybody alcohol to drink. Doing so would mean he's a liar. Remember what he said in the passage below.



If it was alcoholic wine Jesus turned water into at the wedding in Cana, then he abolished the law and the prophet which spoke against alcoholic wine in Proverbs 23:31. So clearly it wasn't alcoholic wine he turned water into but fruit juice.

Another passage people love to use for an excuse to drink alcohol is seen below.

Mathew 11:18-19
18 For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil.
19 The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.

The above passage talks about a false accusations against Jesus who pointed out how they also falsely accused John the Baptist. Yet, some people will say because Jesus was accused of being a drunkard then it means he use to drink alcohol. Was John the Baptist possessed with a devil? No, but he was accused of such. I now wonder why you believe Jesus drank alcohol due to some false accusations. Remember, the accusation is that he was a drunkard. So if you use this verse to justify drinking alcohol, then don't get angry when some tells you that Jesus use to fall into gutter after getting drunk; he use to behold strange women and say perverse things. Can you see how wrong they are with their interpretation of the passage?

Another verse they use is seen below.




They pick the verse out context and say God is telling us that we can buy alcohol and drink it. If you read the previous verses, you will see that the context is about tithing. Those items listed alongside strong drink are to be brought to the temple for sacrifice to God. Some are eating, but it excludes the strong drink because nowhere in the above passage does it say drink the strong drink, same way it doesn't say drink the oil. Now, see what the strong drink is used for.



The strong drink or wine is poured out onto the Lord for a drink offering. It is not to be drank at all. But people have twisted the verse in Deutoronomy 14:26 to mean God is saying we can drink alcohol even when he said in Proverbs 23 that we shouldn't even look at it.

Guys, drinking alcohol is a sin and every Christian should abstain from it. Don't let anybody fool you into think moderation is the key. A little sip sends your good sense of judgment out the window. That's when another glass or bottle won't seem like a bad idea. And note, wine has tripple alcohol content that four bottles of beer. So don't think drinking a glass of wine is sophisticated. You are emore alcoholic than the beer drinker.

Bro there is nothing called fruit wine....anything called wine is alcoholic... the wine the Israelite drank in the bible were alcoholic...any wine you drink that that you non alcoholic its Nevers a wine its a fruit juice packaged in a wine bottle....you see in the olden days there is no unalcoholic wine...wine is wine and its toxic.. any wine you drink that's not alcoholic is a fruit juice...so the water Jesus turn to wine is alcoholic OK?...but am not saying drink or don't drink

You have a long way to go

alBHAGDADI:


Yes, I do. Or are you not talking about the same bishops in Italy that tell people to bow down to statue of Mary which is contrary to God's word?

Or are you not talking about the same bishops in Germany whom Martin Luther rose up against because they were teaching errors and satanic doctrines?

YES, I know more than them and it's all by God's grace.

Chosen1984:


Rapture will Tell who has low capacity sir.

GOD Bless you

low capacity to think response...lol

echibuogwu:
I laff in Spanish,,, OP So na fruit juice make Noah high

echibuogwu:
I laff in Spanish,,, OP So na fruit juice make Noah high

Nukilia:
You now know more than the bishops in Germany and Italy . Africans I salute you

Saul was an anointed king of israel, he was revered and respected but when the spirit of God left him, did he know?
Are you following the bible or the priests and bishops in germany?
It is a choice what you want to believe?

MrPresident1:


Today is not the day to be discussing whether to drink wine or not. Today is the day to be stridently warning the people to protect their skulls by hiding it in Jesus.

Asteroid is coming before 30th September 2019

What the heck is wrong with you?

Sikiratu:

Was noah a christian or holy?
He was an upright man who God saw to be righteous.
It is a choice, if you Love alcohol, you should't care what others say about it.