DExponential:

In those two seasons, he won the league. He took them to the Champs final the next season.

So Klopp won the CL like Dimatteo, he failed to qualify from groups like Dimatteo

Only that dimmateo won the CL in 4months

kendrick93:
When you have a blank chequebook it doesn't matter..
If klopp had spent loads and didn't deliver then u can call the calvary..

remember too klopp didn't make any major signings this summer yet his team looks like it will still challenge for the title and CL while pep spent 50m on cancelo and 70m on rodri just to upgrade his bench

Last season Pep bought just Mahrez while Klopp signed Fabinho Allison Keita etc

Who told you it doesnt matter. Chelsea gave Mourinho a blank check, How many CL did he win?

kendrick93:
pep spent 50m on cancelo and 70m on rodri just to upgrade his bench

Once its Pep the price will double. Even when 27M was reported

raumdeuter:


Dimatteo won 1 CL just like Klopp. Dimatteo even did it without signing a single player and within 4 months not 4yrs

How many times did Di Mateo reach ucl finals compared to Klopp?

raumdeuter:


So Klopp won the CL like Dimatteo, he failed to qualify from groups like Dimatteo

Only that dimmateo won the CL in 4months

I won't take anything away from Di Matteo. Klopp has made 3 Cl finals. Can you boldly say that Liverpool will crash out of the group stage this season?

airmark:


How many times did Di Mateo reach ucl finals compared to Klopp?

How many times did DiMatteo play the CL like Klopp

DExponential:

I won't take anything away from Di Matteo. Klopp has made 3 Cl finals. Can you boldly say that Liverpool will crash out of the group stage this season?

All these are irrelevant.

The basis of your argument was Klopp is better than Pep because he won the CL with less spending than Pep

Using the same logic, Dimatteo is better than Klopp because he won the CL with NO spending

Since when you spend you are expected to win (Pep flogging stick)

raumdeuter:


Once its Pep the price will double. Even when 27M was reported

eh.
man city gave them danilo in a player part exchange, a Player who they valued at 25m and
paid extra 27m for cancelo

kendrick93:
eh.
man city gave them danilo in a position part exchange, a Player who they valued at 25m and
paid extra 27m for cancelo

How much did Man Utd buy Alexis?

raumdeuter:

How much did Man Utd buy Alexis?

It was valued at 30m back then

raumdeuter:


All these are irrelevant.

The basis of your argument was Klopp is better than Pep because he won the CL with less spending than Pep

Using the same logic, Dimatteo is better than Klopp because he won the CL with NO spending

Since when you spend you are expected to win (Pep flogging stick)

I responded to a post Melvyn made. He also said something about Klopp not being a tier one manager. How will you rate Pep if he doesn't make a Cl final this season?

kendrick93:
It was valued at 30m back then

Valued by whom? SHow any publication that put ALexis transfer at 30M

raumdeuter:


Last season Pep bought just Mahrez while Klopp signed Fabinho Allison Keita etc

Who told you it doesnt matter. Chelsea gave Mourinho a blank check, How many CL did he win?

And he won the Cl didn't he?
the only time he spent a considerable amount he won big ears.... what does that tell you?
If klopp had that much resources he too will dominate the league.
can the same be said for Pep if he inherited say arsenal at this particular point?

kendrick93:

And he won the Cl didn't he?
the only time he spent a considerable amount he won big ears.... what does that tell you?
If klopp had that much resources he too will dominate the league.
can the same be said for Pep if he inherited say arsenal at this particular point?

The same way Moyes Benitez and AVB said. Once they have resources they will dominate Europe.

raumdeuter:


Valued by whom? SHow any publication that put ALexis transfer at 30M

don't have time to check now... but it was widely published at the time Sanchez was worth 30m...
it's common sense really.
it's just like exchanging your iPhone 8 to get Samsung galaxy 8..
You don't use your Techno to get an iPhone 8
.
Rather you use something of similar value
simple economics

kendrick93:
don't have time to check now... but it was widely published at the time Sanchez was worth 30m...
it's common sense really.
it's just like exchanging your iPhone 8 to get Samsung galaxy 8..
You don't use your Techno to get an iPhone 8
.
Rather you use something of similar value
simple economics

How much did Arsenal sign Miki?

raumdeuter:


How much did Arsenal sign Miki?

does it matter?
what matters is at that point man united valued him at the same price as Sanchez so both came to an agreement.

kendrick93:
does it matter?
what matters is at that point man united valued him at the same price as Sanchez so both came to an agreement.

If Man utd signed Sanchez for 30M, How much did Arsenal sign Miki

raumdeuter:


If Man utd signed Sanchez for 30M, How much did Arsenal sign Miki

they didn't pay any money...
they were both valued at the same price...
So instead of arsenal or man U paying 30m for either player,they did a part exchange.
Same thing with Cancelo and danilo.
Here man city put danilo up for sale at 25m, juventus wanted him and man city were interested in Cancelo who was worth more than 50m to juventus.....
Voila..... agreement

kendrick93:
they didn't pay any money...
they were both valued at the same price...
So instead of arsenal or man U paying 30m for either player,they did a part exchange.
Same thing with Cancelo and danilo.
Here man city put danilo up for sale at 25m, juventus wanted him and man city were interested in Cancelo who was worth more than 50m to juventus.....
Voila..... agreement

So how did you know the amount Danilo was valued at?

How did you know the amount City put up Danilo for? How are we sure City did not value Danilo at 2M while Juve valued Cancelo at 29M? to arrive at a net 27M

The only thing we are sure of is the Net amount paid, The value placed by the seller of Danilo and Cancelo is all speculative

Melvyn11,

How did you let someone who did not know the difference between "an all-time great" and "the greatest of all time" call you a simpleton?

You guys (you and swissh) are blessed. I stan.

raumdeuter:


So how did you know the amount Danilo was valued at?

How did you know the amount City put up Danilo for? How are we sure City did not value Danilo at 2M while Juve valued Cancelo at 29M? to arrive at a net 27M

Because Klopp inherited his squad but Pep bought Sterling, KDB, Aguero, Silva, Otamendi, Fernandinho whose improved values played a role in the estimation of the worth of the City team.

raumdeuter:


The same way Moyes Benitez and AVB said. Once they have resources they will dominate Europe.

Liverpool wanted the league. They did everything possible to win the EPL. They have coveted that trophy for something close to 29 years. It takes 38 games and 10 gruelling months to win it. They did not win it. Someone else who is inferior has won it back to back. The person who won it back to back is a fraud even when he won it without his best player. The other one who did not win it and is better did not lose his best players. Led by 7 points and lost only one game. It feels like odds were stacked against the inferior manager and somehow he still came out tops.

raumdeuter:


So how did you know the amount Danilo was valued at?

How did you know the amount City put up Danilo for? How are we sure City did not value Danilo at 2M while Juve valued Cancelo at 29M? to arrive at a net 27M

The only thing we are sure of is the Net amount paid, The value placed by the seller of Danilo and Cancelo is all speculative

it was all on the news

raumdeuter:
It used to be Ferguson better than Pep
Later Mourinho better than Pep no longer an argument
Later Conte better than Pep no longer an argument
Pochetino better than Pep
Klopp better than Pep

Haters gonna hate, potatoes gon potate, even if he goes on to win the ucl with city, i swear these haters will still come up with another rubbish. They wish their team is as good as city's team b but but cheque book

kendrick93:

it was all on the news

Where did anyone tell us the value of Danilo and the value of Cancelo

Danilo who was a bench warmer at City all through is worth 25M while Trippier who was a regular at Spurs was transferred for 20M. Both same age. One is even English

Expensive Left back. The one Alonso is better than. The one who has barely mopped up 30 games in almost 3 seasons. The one Delph and Zinchenko replaced and still won league. So people should forgive some of us if Robertson being a natural left-back came cheap and is doing well. Some other inferior managers have used Centre midfielders to play LB en route to winning 100 and 98 points.

biomustry:

Haters gonna hate, potatoes gon potate, even if he goes on to win the ucl with city, i swear these haters will still come up with another rubbish. They wish their team is as good as city's team b but but cheque book

Don't let them waylay you into having UCL arguments brother. Pep Guardiola has won 2 UCL titles. He was asked to prove himself in England finish. Imagine if Neymar comes to England, wins the PFA player of the year, scores the most goals, wins the league etc and people start telling him to prove he is better than Hazard he has to win the UCL as well. Something he has already won before coming to England. Lol

raumdeuter:


How many times did DiMatteo play the CL like Klopp

That's why it's stupid for anyone to have brought him near Klopp.

raumdeuter:


It doesn't make any sense as we expect of posts from you

Klopp won the CL with less signings than Pep so he is better

Can we extend this to Dimatteo

Dimatteo won the CL with no signing at all. So should he be the best of all time?

Like I aid you don’t know what the argument is all about. Currently, Klopp is ahead of pep so calling klopp 2nd tier coach is ridiculous.

So if klopp is not a 2 tie coach will you place him alongside Alex Ferguson, arrigo sachi, Vincente del busquets,whom most of you believe are all time greats?

airmark:


That's why it's stupid for anyone to have brought him near Klopp.

The only big trophy Klopp has won was 1 CL title, Just like Dimatteo