Please do not lead people astray. Many Nigerians regardless of their status will regret their journey to SA because South Africans are hostile to black foreigners especially those from the western, eastern and northern part of Africa. You claimed you have lived in SA for more 11 months. I also lived in SA for three years. As a matter of fact, I got my master's degree in SA and I was a lecturer in a University in KZN before I left in 2016. It is not only sad that a Nigerian would say that 80-90% of Nigerians in SA are undocumented and illegal, but this is also an unfortunate statement. Did you conduct a census to determine your statistics? According to the latest data from Statistics SA, the number of Nigerians in SA are about 100,000. Are you saying 90,000 of them are undocumented? I don't know what you do in SA, but I will tell you from my own experience as a student and a worker that there are many Nigerian students and academics in SA. As far as I am concerned, you cannot be registered or even be given a job in these institutions without a paper. Your job will be terminated, your salary will stop the day your visa expires and your bank account will be frozen after one or two months. I guess you have only lived in South Africa, apart from Nigeria. But may I ask you how many times you have to carry your passport around? How many times do you have to show your passport and provide your home address before any transaction can be done? It is like everyone just want to re-assess your immigration status and that is why you have to keep supplying your passport with visa even to those whose job does not have anything to do with immigration. In New Zealand, the only time you show your visa is your first day and no one will ever ask you for your identity ever again. You don't even need your passport for local travel within New Zealand. The first thing they will tell you during your orientation is to keep your passport safe and get something called an 18+ card to minimise the loss of your passport. The 18+ card is held by both locals and foreigners and you only show this card when you have to buy alcohol.

When I first came to SA, despite having a two-year visa and a home that I was renting, it took me almost 3 weeks before I could open a bank account in FNB. The same thing applies to many people. The same bank account that I could not open in three weeks in SA took me less than 20 minutes in New Zealand. The difference is that NZ banks are not asking me to provide my admission letter and other impossible documents or any letter from my landlord or to provide certified documents of the originals that I was already carrying. They just go to the immigration website to verify my visa status. Okay, now let's say you are working in SA, how many times did you have to prove that you can be trusted by other SAns. How many times do you have to pander to your boss or students to get your contract renewed? How many times do you have to work extra and unpaid just to prove that you are a good worker that should be retained? In fact, I know of my foreigners with PR that did not get a job because their PR was gotten after 1994. The people with papers, can't get jobs, talkless of those without paper. Of course, I have met few Nigerians who paid the Nigeria Football Federation money to come to SA as a fan supporter during the 2010 world cup and they have been living as illegals since then, hoping that marrying a South African lady would help them get papers. This is also not to mean that some Nigerians are not into drug dealing. There are some areas in Durban where you will see the presence of loud Nigerians. But that does not translate to the fact that 80-90% Nigerians are illegals. Have you asked yourself why SA have not scrapped the fee remission for master's by research and PhD for foreigners? Do you know that the population of Nigerians and other black Africans are what is sustaining some departments from closing down? An average Nigerian lecturer in SA will face targeted harassment from colleagues and students because they see us as desperados who are fleeing from our own country. That is why during course and teacher evaluation, no matter how much effort you have put into the course, the students will be saying horrible things to get you fired. The reason is that they know they have power over you. The power imbalance between average SAns and other African migrants is visible and that is why someone like you will say 80-90% of Nigerians are illegals because the vertical violence that they have projected on you have made you think lesser of yourself. For you to be accepted by them, you must talk bad about your own people. In 2016, 2017/2018, my wife did photographic research of the experience of black african students in SA and even that of black south africans and during the photovoice, it emerged that the broken bottles, the violence and the aggression were to make foreigners feel unwelcome and to look after their shoulders. Regardless of how much you can portray your lived experience of SA as a haven, I can bet that you must have been asked a couple of times when you are going back home? Does that seem a harmless question to you? As a student in SA, I have seen SA immigration falsely accusing people of submitting fake health insurance and only backed down when the lawyers of the insurance company got involved. It may not affect you now, but it does not mean people are not been treated unjustly. For anyone who cares to listen, stay away from SA because the psychological impact of being a Nigerian in SA outweighs any benefits that you think your being there will afford you.

slickruler:
This is very misleading.. Very very very misleading.

This is my 11th month here. My First Month I stayed with a South African in his flat ( A work Colleague.). Not all South Africans are Xenophobic. The real problem is hunger/poverty/hatred (when una dey collect their women).

Lets tell ourselves the truth, 80-90% of Nigerians i have met here are here undocumented and Illegally. You applied for a visit visa and you have been here for 3-5 Years. No source of income, you resort to fraud and drugs. Giving the rest of your country men bad names.

I have met Nigerians who do Menial jobs from Mechanics to carpenters, uber and truck drivers. But a huge chunk gives the good ones a bad name. Its so bad that even when other Foreigners do something wrong they are easily tagged as Nigerians..

Gninea:

Since you are in Sa already, is it safe to visit?

What can I say where I am is safe North West potchestroom
We just have to be careful that's all our Nigeria also is not safe just that u have right of movement and certain security from family and friends

osinawanta:


What can I say where I am is safe North West potchestroom
We just have to be careful that's all our Nigeria also is not safe just that u have right of movement and certain security from family and friends

Because all I just want is a stamp on my passport...nothing more.

Marcus992000:
Hi all....
Please i need help.
I was called to come to SA for an interview by the Mandela Rhodes scholarship board. The twist is my interview should be between 26-28 of october. The board is the one taking care of all expenses incurred from flight and accomodation.

I intend to apply for my Visa next week, cos im working presently and I dont have time at all.
Please how long will it take for d visa to be processed?
Can I get a yellow card from the airport on saturday, being oct 1 independence day, (dats d only time i can b free)__
How long will it take to be able to submit my application , i intend to sneak out of the office to do it next week monday, will it be possible (i work arnd VI).
And lastly, do you think it is feasible i get my visa ASAP.

Thanks all for your help. Im kinda at a loss .

Hi bro. I have the Mandela Rhodes Scholarship interview next month and I will be glad if you could help with tips to ace it.

Thanks

Please all I got this mail on Wednesday “Dear frank Processed Visa Application ref no. SAAB/280......has been dispatched to the courier service provider from The South African Visa Application Centre, ABUJA.” Please I still hVe not receive or heard Anytin from them....am I suppose to do something?? Please I need your help

You have said the truth. I know someone whose visa was denied on the basis that the office for foreign students could not pick calls. In fact, you are talking with fact. I can attest to all what you wrote here sir.

tosintonero:
Please do not lead people astray. Many Nigerians regardless of their status will regret their journey to SA because South Africans are hostile to black foreigners especially those from the western, eastern and northern part of Africa. You claimed you have lived in SA for more 11 months. I also lived in SA for three years. As a matter of fact, I got my master's degree in SA and I was a lecturer in a University in KZN before I left in 2016. It is not only sad that a Nigerian would say that 80-90% of Nigerians in SA are undocumented and illegal, but this is also an unfortunate statement. Did you conduct a census to determine your statistics? According to the latest data from Statistics SA, the number of Nigerians in SA are about 100,000. Are you saying 90,000 of them are undocumented? I don't know what you do in SA, but I will tell you from my own experience as a student and a worker that there are many Nigerian students and academics in SA. As far as I am concerned, you cannot be registered or even be given a job in these institutions without a paper. Your job will be terminated, your salary will stop the day your visa expires and your bank account will be frozen after one or two months. I guess you have only lived in South Africa, apart from Nigeria. But may I ask you how many times you have to carry your passport around? How many times do you have to show your passport and provide your home address before any transaction can be done? It is like everyone just want to re-assess your immigration status and that is why you have to keep supplying your passport with visa even to those whose job does not have anything to do with immigration. In New Zealand, the only time you show your visa is your first day and no one will ever ask you for your identity ever again. You don't even need your passport for local travel within New Zealand. The first thing they will tell you during your orientation is to keep your passport safe and get something called an 18+ card to minimise the loss of your passport. The 18+ card is held by both locals and foreigners and you only show this card when you have to buy alcohol.

When I first came to SA, despite having a two-year visa and a home that I was renting, it took me almost 3 weeks before I could open a bank account in FNB. The same thing applies to many people. The same bank account that I could not open in three weeks in SA took me less than 20 minutes in New Zealand. The difference is that NZ banks are not asking me to provide my admission letter and other impossible documents or any letter from my landlord or to provide certified documents of the originals that I was already carrying. They just go to the immigration website to verify my visa status. Okay, now let's say you are working in SA, how many times did you have to prove that you can be trusted by other SAns. How many times do you have to pander to your boss or students to get your contract renewed? How many times do you have to work extra and unpaid just to prove that you are a good worker that should be retained? In fact, I know of my foreigners with PR that did not get a job because their PR was gotten after 1994. The people with papers, can't get jobs, talkless of those without paper. Of course, I have met few Nigerians who paid the Nigeria Football Federation money to come to SA as a fan supporter during the 2010 world cup and they have been living as illegals since then, hoping that marrying a South African lady would help them get papers. This is also not to mean that some Nigerians are not into drug dealing. There are some areas in Durban where you will see the presence of loud Nigerians. But that does not translate to the fact that 80-90% Nigerians are illegals. Have you asked yourself why SA have not scrapped the fee remission for master's by research and PhD for foreigners? Do you know that the population of Nigerians and other black Africans are what is sustaining some departments from closing down? An average Nigerian lecturer in SA will face targeted harassment from colleagues and students because they see us as desperados who are fleeing from our own country. That is why during course and teacher evaluation, no matter how much effort you have put into the course, the students will be saying horrible things to get you fired. The reason is that they know they have power over you. The power imbalance between average SAns and other African migrants is visible and that is why someone like you will say 80-90% of Nigerians are illegals because the vertical violence that they have projected on you have made you think lesser of yourself. For you to be accepted by them, you must talk bad about your own people. In 2016, 2017/2018, my wife did photographic research of the experience of black african students in SA and even that of black south africans and during the photovoice, it emerged that the broken bottles, the violence and the aggression were to make foreigners feel unwelcome and to look after their shoulders. Regardless of how much you can portray your lived experience of SA as a haven, I can bet that you must have been asked a couple of times when you are going back home? Does that seem a harmless question to you? As a student in SA, I have seen SA immigration falsely accusing people of submitting fake health insurance and only backed down when the lawyers of the insurance company got involved. It may not affect you now, but it does not mean people are not been treated unjustly. For anyone who cares to listen, stay away from SA because the psychological impact of being a Nigerian in SA outweighs any benefits that you think your being there will afford you.

well said...am grateful my post graduate studies at UKZN kept stalling despite all efforts I put in,got a better offer in Turkey.was in SA for a few months awaiting my admission decision but had to leave for home which was a blessing in disguise!

Lukgaf:
You have said the truth. I know someone whose visa was denied on the basis that the office for foreign students could not pick calls. In fact, you are talking with fact. I can attest to all what you wrote here sir.

Please o, are they still collecting documents at Lagos vsf? Can I go without booking online? What’s the latest modus operandi?

I want to apply for a tourist visa. Hope xhenophobia won’t affect anything.

Are you visiting South Africa soon? Pls send a DM. I would like to send my wife's finger print from Lagos to South Africa. It's just a fingerprint. Nothing more

Are you visiting South Africa soon? Pls send a DM. I would like to send my wife's finger print from Lagos to South Africa. It's just a fingerprint. Nothing more

Does anyone know if SA embassy is now opened?

Incandescent:
Are you visiting South Africa soon? Pls send a DM. I would like to send my wife's finger print from Lagos to South Africa. It's just a fingerprint. Nothing more

Does anyone know if SA embassy is now opened?

It's open I was at vfs lag today 3:43pm to complain due to my visa delay.. Funny enough the session for collecting of passports was stock up with over 300 passports, waiting to be collected..


Try to track your application and stop waiting for SMS or email..

So you guys are still sweating to visit south africa..

Nigerians will never learn so some guys are still struggling to get that useless xenophobic visa...I think by now south Africa embassy should have been shut down till further notice! Anyone going there should have himself to blame if he or she been roasted like chicken!D day I hated that xenophobic country is the day they killed my main man Lucky Dube now the rest is history!

About the SA vs Nigeria thing

In the bible God told Abraham, leave your father's house to a land that l would show you.

When there was famine, Isaac wanted to migrate God told Isaac to stay in the land and he prospered.

Nigeria wouldn't favour everyone, South Africa wouldn't favour everyone. So the most important thing is to do as God leads you (for those of you believe in God)

If you say South Africa is a horrible place you are right.

If you say South Africa is a great place you are also right.

Let's not berate any one for their desire to visit South Africa or to migrate legally.

I close with this, if you are coming to South Africa to "hustle" on a visitors visa, you are in for a very bitter experience.

Shalom Shalom

Kelvinarsenal:
Nigerians will never learn so some guys are still struggling to get that useless xenophobic visa...I think by now south Africa embassy should have been shut down till further notice! Anyone going there should have himself to blame if he or she been roasted like chicken!D day I hated that xenophobic country is the day they killed my main man Lucky Dube now the rest is history!

Nigerian people get strong head, until they reach there dem go see. If you warn person he will tell say you are trying to take his shine away from him and are doing bad belle.

South Africa is going through a turbulent economic time. The time for going there to school, work, hustle has passed. You are going to join another 5million immigrants from Africa and the South Africans do not appreciate your aggressive hustle spirit. It is not their way.

Gninea:

Because all I just want is a stamp on my passport...nothing more.

if you want a stamp
go to Rwanda and Dubai
it's easier and less stressful

Leave S.A. for now

Rwanda visa and UAE visas are easy easy

and you can run both countries with say 1500 dollars for say a 8 day stay between the two
think about it

Battywonder:


Hi bro. I have the Mandela Rhodes Scholarship interview next month and I will be glad if you could help with tips to ace it.

Thanks

There's no tips actually. Just be your self, speak your truth and enjoy the process. JUDY, Ernst and Gigi are awesome individuals.
Hopefully in some couple of weeks, I will welcome you to the MRF family.

Cheers bro and Best of God

antzlaive:


Na wa oh...I don't have any comments.

I just know say we been don dash them the passports before.

:

Hello hux ,please I want to find out if refusal letter is different from denied letter

Becks27:
Hello hux ,please I want to find out if refusal letter is different from denied letter

They are the same.

Becks27:
Hello hux ,please I want to find out if refusal letter is different from denied letter

I think they are the same.. where you refused?

Hi guys, what is the update on S.A. application, are the Vis centres currently working?

I know this question is like a no-brainer but I need your help guys.

Do I need a letter of self-introduction for my 3 months old child who I intend applying for a relative permit for?

TYPOP

What is becareful? When I hear Nigerians talk like this, I just wonder. Is it until it happens to you that you acknowledge it?

Stay away from South Africa. Please do. Dont listen to these confused souls here saying other wise. There is too much psychological trauma to deal with as a Nigerian in South Africa. Those people are broken souls, mean and so mentally backward.

Any Nigerian saying otherwise here, is obviously one of the few that have accepted to eat from the scrubs of the table. Those type of people that has never been to any other civilized country and find SA as some rare opportunity in their life.

Do you know how many Nigerians are returning back willingly. A word is enough for the wise.

osinawanta:


What can I say where I am is safe North West potchestroom
We just have to be careful that's all our Nigeria also is not safe just that u have right of movement and certain security from family and friends

Yupng:
What is becareful? When I hear Nigerians talk like this, I just wonder. Is it until it happens to you that you acknowledge it?

Stay away from South Africa. Please do. Dont listen to these confused souls here saying other wise. There is too much psychological trauma to deal with as a Nigerian in South Africa. Those people are broken souls, mean and so mentally backward.

Any Nigerian saying otherwise here, is obviously one of the few that have accepted to eat from the scrubs of the table. Those type of people that has never been to any other civilized country and find SA as some rare opportunity in their life.

Do you know how many Nigerians are returning back willingly. A word is enough for the wise.

what if I just want to go for a 10 days tourist visit?

Becks27:
sir please where did you summit ? Lagos or Abuja

abuja

Help on how to withdraw application from south Africa embassy

Pls applied since june ds year... Am yet to reciev any info from them.. Pls can u render me some assistance or send me ur Email to chat u privately

olaoluwa13:
Help on how to withdraw application from south Africa embassy

Same too here,j want to withdraw my passport.