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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 8:44pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
nihilistjnr:fear catch me o. i come dey see boateng name beside em uncles own |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 8:51pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
nihilistjnr: You sef see that package? With hopes say no one will catch him "iko". |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 8:59pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
Kimbeast:Who dash Ashley Cole best Left back in the game? Rio and Terry best defenders in the game? Why do you people believe English hype this much. Gary Neville Lmaoooo Beckham, Lampard and Scholes were inferior to the Zidane's, Pirlos, Xavis, Schweinsteigers etc Go and check the history of football. It is literally impossible for you to see an assortment of 'World class' that recorded this much failure international tournament after international tournament. How can supposed talent in such high concentration fail to get past the quarterfinals of any major tournament as a collective? Go and check and show me one team in football history with that many good players from defense to attack who didn't just fail to win a major tournament but couldn't even get past quarterfinal in multiple tries. It means a significant number of them were hyped 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 9:00pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
Kimbeast:Lmaoooo Ashley Cole over Lahm? Lmaoooooooooo 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 9:04pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
A40: I hope you remember Netherlands of Bergkamp, Davids, VDS era. None of them have a world cup medal. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 9:07pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
airmark:They got to Euro and France 98 semifinals at least. Show me where England reached. England even missed Euro 2008 FFS |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 9:08pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 9:17pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
A40:None of England golden generation was hyped. Their were all genuine world class players who underperformed due to bad Management. That have been my stance hence Rooney saying with a proper manager like Guardiola they would have dominated, which is a valid statement. England didn't suffer from lack of talent /players but lack of good management. 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 9:20pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
Roland17:Talk to your Anglophiles biko. I want to barf rn |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 9:29pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
A40:As at 2006 who the feck was lahm for dayo to put him over Ashley Cole in a combined eleven. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 9:33pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
oga nihilistjnr, come talk teams you think say be favourite to win this season ucl |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 9:34pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
Kimbeast:Never in the history of niggerdom have I not seen a bad worker man blame his tools. Guardiola my left nut. When England hired Capello nko what happened? Nobody get time for all these kanipe talk Didn't Brazil win the World Cup with Scolari aka Papa Ajasco some years back. France with Aime Jacquet who the French wanted to chase out of their country prior to the tournament? Abi Roger Lemerre. Abeg spare these excuses. Isn't it the same Pep that hasn't led City past CL quarterfinal? What's the guarantee he would do diddly squat with England and their over hyped squad? 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 9:43pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
A40: Oil dey Ur head. This is exactly what I told him ó. It's mere wishful thinking for somebody to stay one place reminiscing and fantasizing what would've been saying ceteris paribus (All things being equal, when in fact all things can never be equal) It's just like a case of if messi had opted to play for Spain and won the world cup and euros with them. Make Aguero or Di Màríà come sit down dey talk say If messi had played for them at the national level they would have World cup and Copa America medals. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 9:51pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
player to player or squad to squad, which team do you think is better and stand a better chance to win in the group stage tier? psg vs madrid juv vs atm pool vs napoli barca vs inter & dortmund bayern vs tottenham consider their managers too talk now. no be when your team lose now you go begin give excuse up and down. mine: psg vs madrid = both teams will win at home (psg with better squad) juv vs atm = both teams will win at home or both matches will be draw (juv with better players) pool vs napoli = pool will win home and draw away (pool with better team) barca vs inter & dortmund = barca win both home and away against dortmund but draw against inter away (barca with better everything) bayern vs tottenham = both teams to win home (no much difference in players) nihilistjnr, airmark, kimbeast, mevlyn1, nateevs, ibime, echetaram echataram |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 9:52pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
BlueRayDick:I've thrown the gauntlet to him. Let him show me any team with that many so-called worldies from attack to defense that didn't sniff a major tournament semifinal from 2002-2010 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 10:01pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
nihilistjnr: Like I squezzed Nesta between cavanavro and Vidic. You will see what you want to see |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 10:04pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
Kimbeast: Who managed them badly? Was it Sven Eriksen McLaren or Capello or Hodgson. When 4 different coaches managed a side and none could make a semi, even failed to qualify for Euros. Isnt it time you agree that they are mediocre 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 10:11pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
obainojazz: Before Pep got to Bayern Boateng already made 2 CL finals We all saw Vidic crawling after Torres, Nesta getting turned inside out by Ronaldinho, DiMaria made Puyol split, Canavaro was disgraced by La Liga defenders, We will remember Boateng for beasting a CL and world cup final, Vidic for holding the Man Utd, Canavaro for winning the world cup, Nesta for holding the great Milan side etc 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 10:13pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
Greatihex: Given your lack of understanding of basic football and even logic, I am not surprised you think that |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 10:21pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
A40:Capello flopped because he was dick headed manager and by the time he was in charge England no longer had most it's golden generation.Sven who was a clueless Goat that just picked players base on reputation was the one who mis managed England. if England didn't have a manager who was a 4-4-2 slave and could find a system to fit Lampard, Gerrard and scholes together they would have won something. I repeat again the golden generation had a fantastic defence, a solid goalkeeper, amazing midfielders (so many in fact that it created a problem because the coaches wanted them all in there and the balance was off) and very good strikers. Give them a good manager and it would have been a different story. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 10:24pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
raumdeuter: From 2002-2006 England had G.Neville, Ferdinand, Campbell, John Terry, Ashley Cole, Gerrard, Scholes (retired 2004) Beckham, Lampard, Rooney and Owen. All those players were world class at some point between 2002-2006 and other good players like Carragher, Hargreaves and Joe Cole. individually it was a great team. The talent was not lacking, all it needed was good management. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 10:31pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
The golden generation certainly failed, but it almost certainly wasn't down to a lack of talent or players being overrated. It's down to shoddy management and stupid coaches hence Rooney is correct. It's not just about only Guardiola,give that team to Ferguson, Mourinho even Lippi back then and see them dominate. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 10:33pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
A40: They had a stronger team yet they didn't make any finals. It's not about not having quality players, there's more to it and Ibime had pointed out one or two things earlier. Meanwhile, don't bring Schweinsteiger near Lampard again. Thanks. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 10:39pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
raumdeuter:why then do you keep fighting with airmark over vvd if you know the bold? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 10:41pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
airmark:What are you talking about stronger team?? According to your guy here we're told Ashley Cole was the best LB in the world. John Racist and Jegbo Ferdinand the best CB in the world Lampard/Gerrard/Scholes we know their pedigree Rooney best young player in the World. This does not apply to the Dutch National team as you cannot tell me with a straight face that they paraded players with those accolades whether via hype or based on the reality from defense to attack compared to England's supposed golden generation. Why can't I bring Schweinsteiger to Lampard? Prime Schweinsteiger drove Bayern midfield to 3 CL Finals and the National Mannschaft to a Euro Finals and a World Cup title. While Lampard broke the record of most shots at goal without a goal in World Cup history 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 10:46pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
A40: Na BRT driver or danfo? I can only appreciate him for losing his penalty against Chelsea and he didn't drink sniper. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 10:46pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
Kimbeast:Story for the gods. It's widely acknowledged that International football does not require the technical skills that club football demands from the average coach. Aime Jacquet, Roger Lemerre, Felipe Scolari, Joachim Loew, Fernando Santos, Otto Rehhagel and recently Didier Deschamps are coaches that have thrown your theory to the dustbin. We see people question Zidane's technical abilities too but Madrid's squad quality saw them win 3 trebles in a row. If England players were not over hyped they will not be failing back to back from 2002-2016 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 10:48pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
airmark:If Roberto Baggio can miss penalty then nothing spoil. In the span of two years he won the CL and became a World Champion. Tell me about Lampard |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 10:52pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
A40: We still remember what Baggio did to knock Nigeria out and to get Italy to USA 94 cup final. Schweiny was a local champion. He never made FIFA XI 2nd team, let alone main FIFA XI. I can't remember him for doing anything extraordinary consistently. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 10:56pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
Greatihex: These defenders never hid or ran away from attackers they faced them not one that will be hiding from attackers |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 10:58pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
Kimbeast: Lets start one after the other. When was Gary Neville ever world class? or Beckham or Ferdinand or Terry. You dont seem to knwo the difference between being a member of a team and having individual class. Thats how you might tell us Arbeloa was world class 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 11:03pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
A40:Scholes is not inferior to Bastian Schweinsteiger in anyway neither is Lampard. |
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