A40:
What are you talking about stronger team??

According to your guy here we're told Ashley Cole was the best LB in the world.

John Racist and Jegbo Ferdinand the best CB in the world

Lampard/Gerrard/Scholes we know their pedigree

Rooney best young player in the World.

This does not apply to the Dutch National team as you cannot tell me with a straight face that they paraded players with those accolades whether via hype or based on the reality from defense to attack compared to England's supposed golden generation.

Why can't I bring Schweinsteiger to Lampard? [b]Prime Schweinsteiger drove Bayern midfield to 3 CL Finals and the National Mannschaft to a Euro Finals and a World Cup title. [/b]While Lampard broke the record of most shots at goal without a goal in World Cup history

today it is schweinsteiger, tomorrow boateng, next tomorrow muller, the next one neuer and so on. chai, nawao

patrickmuf:
Scholes is not inferior to Bastian Schweinsteiger in anyway neither is Lampard.

A40 took after his mentor, both can make reckless statements.

Kimbeast:

Capello flopped because he was dick headed manager and by the time he was in charge England no longer had most it's golden generation.Sven who was a clueless Goat that just picked players base on reputation was the one who mis managed England. if England didn't have a manager who was a 4-4-2 slave and could find a system to fit Lampard, Gerrard and scholes together they would have won something. I repeat again the golden generation had a fantastic defence, a solid goalkeeper, amazing midfielders (so many in fact that it created a problem because the coaches wanted them all in there and the balance was off) and very good strikers. Give them a good manager and it would have been a different story.

Lmaoooo only Jesus can manage this English team at last because I've never seen so many excuses in all my years in this forum.

Capello is a dick head? Eriksson who had wiped every trophy in Italy even taking ordinary Lazio to a Scudetto and winning the Cup Winners Cup is a clueless goat? Same Eriksson that took Benfica to CL Final (would have joined Trappatoni as only coach to win all 3 Major European trophies) only to narrowly lose to Milan is clueless?

England is like an olodo child that doesn't know Maths. Even if you hire Phillip Emegweali to teach him he will still fail and you will say it's his fault and not the olodo child

A40:
Story for the gods. It's widely acknowledged that International football does not require the technical skills that club football demands from the average coach.

Aime Jacquet, Roger Lemerre, Felipe Scolari, Joachim Loew, Fernando Santos, Otto Rehhagel and recently Didier Deschamps are coaches that have thrown your theory to the dustbin.

We see people question Zidane's technical abilities too but Madrid's squad quality saw them win 3 trebles in a row.

If England players were not over hyped they will not be failing back to back from 2002-2016

heyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!

Greatihex:
today it is schweinsteiger, tomorrow boateng, next tomorrow muller, the next one neuer and so on. chai, nawao

They were using 'led' before, now it's 'drove'. Everybody was a driver in that team, who were the passengers?

airmark:


We still remember what Baggio did to knock Nigeria out and to get Italy to USA 94 cup final.

Schweiny was a local champion. He never made FIFA XI 2nd team, let alone main FIFA XI.

I can't remember him for doing anything extraordinary consistently.

Because you're infatuated with polling booth awards and not what the player actually does on the pitch.

From 2006-2014 during Germany's resurgence and at Bayern the common denominator in the midfield is Schweinsteiger. One man MOPOL. If you need goal he can score, if na assist he can provide, if na to play DM e fit play am

Greatihex:
heyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!

Stop playing Captain Pedantic. Anybody with working brain knows what I meant

airmark:


A40 took after his mentor, both can make reckless statements.

It is shocking the kind of claims one gets to read here. If you probe further, I'm sure he'd mention the world cup. The arguments here sometimes are ridiculous.

In a couple of years from now, one clown will come here to say the English team of 2018 was better than that of Scholes, Lampard, Gerrard and Rooney.

patrickmuf:
Scholes is not inferior to Bastian Schweinsteiger in anyway neither is Lampard.

Your opinion bruv. Schweinsteiger delivered for club and country. Something you cannot say for either player you mentioned

raumdeuter:


These defenders never hid or ran away from attackers they faced them not one that will be hiding from attackers

Like Alago

patrickmuf:
It is shocking the kind of claims one gets to read here. If you probe further, I'm sure he'd mention the world cup. The arguments here sometimes are ridiculous.

In a couple of years from now, one clown will come here to say the English team of 2018 was better than that of Scholes, Lampard, Gerrard and Rooney.

World Cup, Euros. No major tournament for club and country has Schweinsteiger not flexed his muscles in the midfield.

SkimpleD:

Like Alago

Boateng went to meet his man, VVD was hiding throughout. Thats, why Boateng has a world cup and VVD, does not have one at age 27

The last time VVD went to face his man, it ended this way

A40:
Stop playing Captain Pedantic. Anybody with working brain knows what I meant

nobody knows what you guys mean these days.

no be so your oga carry straight face dey hammer here since say liverpool finish 10th for klopp first season. since i expose am, em never reply me

If not Eriksson that because of free money went to England to stain his white. JJC EPL fans don't know his pedigree before coming to coach England.

Do you know what it is to win Serie A with Lazio right under the nose of Juve, Inter, Parma and Milan?? Win multiple Copa Italias, European Cup Winners Cup and UEFA Super cup

A40:
Your opinion bruv. Schweinsteiger delivered for club and country. Something you cannot say for either player you mentioned

What do you mean by delivered for club and country? A great player is a great player even if he doesn't win a national competition.
Will you rate Kaka ahead of Denis Bergkhamp?

When talking about players, can we focus more on the individual rather than team achievement? I'm sure if Mikel is thrown into the mix when we are discussing Ballack, you'd be quick to highlight Ballack's individual qualities rather than team achievements BECAUSE Mikel has won the AFCON, UCL AND UEFA cup. If your logic is used here, Mikel stands heads and shoulders above Ballack but no, I know better than base my logic on nothing.

Greatihex:
nobody knows what you guys mean these days.

no be so your oga carry straight face dey hammer here since say liverpool finish 10th for klopp first season. since i expose am, em never reply me

My friend shut up.

patrickmuf:
What do you mean by delivered for club and country? A great player is a great player even if he doesn't win a national competition.
Will you rate Kaka ahead of Denis Bergkhamp?

When talking about players, can we focus more on the individual rather than team achievement? I'm sure if Mikel is thrown into the mix when we are discussing Ballack, you'd be quick to highlight Ballack's individual qualities rather than team achievements BECAUSE Mikel has won the AFCON, UCL AND UEFA cup. If your logic is used here, Mikel stands heads and shoulders above Ballack but no, I know better than base my logic on nothing.

Yes Kaka was better than Dennis Bergkamp

A player leads his team to win trophies which is the aim of the sport

Ballack was the main player who drove Leverkusen to a CL final. Tell us what Mikel or Lampard as main player, playing with the level of dross Ballack played with got to the CL final or a world cup final

If I ask you to name 5 team members of Ballack at Leverkusen that got to the CL final without google you probably will struggle

patrickmuf:
What do you mean by delivered for club and country? A great player is a great player even if he doesn't win a national competition.
Will you rate Kaka ahead of Denis Bergkhamp?

When talking about players, can we focus more on the individual rather than team achievement? I'm sure if Mikel is thrown into the mix when we are discussing Ballack, you'd be quick to highlight Ballack's individual qualities rather than team achievements BECAUSE Mikel has won the AFCON, UCL AND UEFA cup. If your logic is used here, Mikel stands heads and shoulders above Ballack but no, I know better than base my logic on nothing.

What kind of Jamb question are you asking me? Show me any other midfielder that has performed for Bayern and Germany from 2006 to 2014.

Kaka's peak was better than Bergkamp's. And that is considering they did not even play the same position so I don't know what this has to do with the argument on ground

You cannot divorce team achievement from a team sport so dead that narrative. Secondly who determines the metrics of individual play? Polling booth awards?

The reason nobody would compare Mikel to Ballack is because Mikel was not even a starter for most of the trophies Chelsea won. I don't know how you sit there and compare Mikel's role in these squads to that of Schweinsteiger. You don't have any argument

raumdeuter:


Yes Kaka was better than Dennis Bergkamp

A player leads his team to win trophies which is the aim of the sport

Ballack was the main player who drove Leverkusen to a CL final. Tell us what Mikel or Lampard as main player, playing with the level of dross Ballack played with got to the CL final or a world cup final

If I ask you to name 5 team members of Ballack at Leverkusen that got to the CL final without google you probably will struggle

Boateng is the Mikel of Winning Bayern and Germany team.. We don't need Google to know 5 players in those teams.

A40:
What kind of Jamb question are you asking me? Show me any other midfielder that has performed for Bayern and Germany from 2006 to 2014.

Kaka's peak was better than Bergkamp's. And that is considering they did not even play the same position so I don't know what this has to do with the argument on ground

You cannot divorce team achievement from a team sport so dead that narrative. Secondly who determines the metrics of individual play? Polling booth awards?

The reason nobody would compare Mikel to Ballack is because Mikel was not even a starter for most of the trophies Chelsea won. I don't know how you sit there and compare Mikel's role in these squads to that of Schweinsteiger. You don't have any argument

In what way was Schweinsteiger better than Scholes? Passing? Scoring from midfield? Midfield control? What exactly?

raumdeuter:


Yes Kaka was better than Dennis Bergkamp

A player leads his team to win trophies which is the aim of the sport

Ballack was the main player who drove Leverkusen to a CL final. Tell us what Mikel or Lampard as main player, playing with the level of dross Ballack played with got to the CL final or a world cup final

If I ask you to name 5 team members of Ballack at Leverkusen that got to the CL final without google you probably will struggle

Ze Roberto was that bad, Basturk was bad, Ramelow was bad...They were all bad right?

I am not here to do back and forth. In these streets, nobody wins no matter how ridiculous your argument is...I just hope say na here e end cos if you take some of the rubbish we read here outside, some of you would've had multiple stitches by now.

patrickmuf:
In what way was Schweinsteiger better than Scholes? Passing? Scoring from midfield? Midfield control? What exactly?

Yes Schweinsteiger didn't just control the midfield but dominated it better. He was the engine and brain box of Germany and Bayern's midfield in their most successful period in the last 20 years.

Scholes played closer to goal than Schweinsteiger for most of his prime so common sense dictates he would get more goals.

patrickmuf:
I am not here to do back and forth. In these streets, nobody wins no matter how ridiculous your argument is...I just hope say na here e end cos if you take some of the rubbish we read here outside, some of you would've had multiple stitches by now.

Story for the gods.

A40:
Yes Schweinsteiger didn't just control the midfield but dominated it better. He was the engine and brain box of Germany and Bayern's midfield in their most successful period in the last 20 years.

Scholes played closer to goal than Schweinsteiger for most of his prime so common sense dictates he would get more goals.

Okay.

airmark:
The new daddy in town. I thank God for the safe delivery.

Congratulations man, make sure you name him busquets

A40:
Because you're infatuated with polling booth awards and not what the player actually does on the pitch.

From 2006-2014 during Germany's resurgence and at Bayern the common denominator in the midfield is Schweinsteiger. One man MOPOL. If you need goal he can score, if na assist he can provide, if na to play DM e fit play am

Are awards given to players for what they do outside of the pitch? Name one great player without being honoured individually for his talent.

What's the highest number of goals your Schweiny scored in a season all his life?

One man Mopol ko, one man baddo ni.

patrickmuf:
It is shocking the kind of claims one gets to read here. If you probe further, I'm sure he'd mention the world cup. The arguments here sometimes are ridiculous.

In a couple of years from now, one clown will come here to say the English team of 2018 was better than that of Scholes, Lampard, Gerrard and Rooney.

That's what Dayo and his boys bring to us here. They type nonsense with confidence.

raumdeuter:


Lets start one after the other. When was Gary Neville ever world class? or Beckham or Ferdinand or Terry. You dont seem to knwo the difference between being a member of a team and having individual class. Thats how you might tell us Arbeloa was world class

Damn are you this biased?. Your judgement is so clouded.

biomustry:

Congratulations man, make sure you name him busquets

I want my kid to be strong on the ball.

A40:
Lmaoooo only Jesus can manage this English team at last because I've never seen so many excuses in all my years in this forum.

Capello is a dick head? Eriksson who had wiped every trophy in Italy even taking ordinary Lazio to a Scudetto and winning the Cup Winners Cup is a clueless goat? Same Eriksson that took Benfica to CL Final (would have joined Trappatoni as only coach to win all 3 Major European trophies) only to narrowly lose to Milan is clueless?

England is like an olodo child that doesn't know Maths. Even if you hire Phillip Emegweali to teach him he will still fail and you will say it's his fault and not the olodo child

Capello flopped and was sacked. Sven might just be the worst coach to ever manage England. The definition of Garbage. Only an idiot plays Gerrard and Lampard as partners to hold your midfield.

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