LegendHero:


I’ve always wondered also why 95% of Nigerians making wave in diaspora are either Yorubas or Igbos. We are both intelligent tribes with thirst for success and with some sort of intellectual abilities embedded in our DNA.

The game the North is playing is the actual game Britain played against Africa. Mix the intellectuals and the less-educated together and give the latter the political power through democracy. Since it’s a game of numbers, the norther will continue to have a say in any political establishment in this democracy.

Look at the votes from Kaduna, Kano, and Katsina for example, can you see that the south is at the mercy of the North? Meaning the fulanis will continue to select people for presidency in as much as this nation stands.

I’m trying to give a realist solution to all this menace. To pull out of the country, the Igbos can’t do it alone, even if they must you must learn to bring the Yorubas in your fold.

You should understand we Yorubas, we’ve not gone through what the average Igbo went through in the war during the 60s, so it’s very hard to rally people around for a common cause. The best tool to gather people is to give them something to fight for, people only react when you can appeal to their emotions.

Nigeria will eventually break, maybe in our generation maybe not, but I’m 100% sure that Nigeria will eventually break one day. But I’m still trying to figure out how that can be achievable optimally.

Nigeria situation now is a war between the rich and the poor, coz there is a conspiracy among the leaders both Yoruba and Igbos to keep their subject in this union.

The animosity between the Igbos and Yorubas is borne out of the fact that the Yorubas thought if they don’t align with the north the Igbo will. Same thing the Igbo thought if they don’t align will the north, the Yorubas will. It’s just a political game by the leaders and we are just pawn in the game.

It’s evident in the political game of Nigeria right from time which saw the brainy vice playing second fiddle to not too literate president or aspirants from the north.
Azikwe/Balewa, Shagari/Ekwueme, Tofa/Sylvester Ugoh
Buhari/Osinbajo.

meccuno:
Igbos never had problems with the Yoruba people. History is there for you to see. But we have a problem when we speak against the Northerners and you drag yourself in. You should have just remained neutral in the war. There were killings in Lagos during the war. I doubt if there was any case of Igbos killing yorubas then. Only when political leaders were eliminated. And there was no where Igbo people sent them to assassinate anybody. Moreover these unfortunate killings was atoned for with the lives of innocent Igbos who had no idea what was happening. The Igbos paid the supreme price in Nigeria and all I read are taunts and jokes like you would have tolerated it if it happened to your people.

meccuno:
Tinubu gave us sense of belonging? Please explain to me how he was able to do that.

LegendHero:


You have your point and to be honest, you are making sense. I visited the civil right museum in Atlanta, and I saw firsthand history of what the whites did to African American during the Jim Crow era. It was a crazy sight to behold and you wouldn’t imagine the extent of damage those white guys did to the blacks (1960s period).

When I was going through those videos, artifacts, and the cruelty of man toward his fellow man, I was ashamed of myself coz I’ve always wondered why the blacks sometimes hate the white in USA and to me I thought they should have forgiven the whites.

But going to the museum changed my perspectives on how hard it was to experience first hand hatred in the Jim Crow era by African Americans which is still recent up to the 60s. What I learnt is that most people will not feel the true pain of another if they don’t experience the pain themselves.

I remebered Biafra war and the pictures of the kids online and I was sad coz I’ve always thought the Igbo man was angry for no reason, I’ve always thought they should have forgiven Nigeria, I’ve always thought they should know Nzeogwu was part of the cause and they should forgive and forget.

But I’m wrong, the Igbo man have every justification for how they feel about Nigeria, it’s justifiable coz they witnessed it firsthand and the new generations would have heard emotional stories from their parents/grandparents which is part of why they fee like this towards Nigeria.

But in all, we should all know both parties are wrong, Ojukwu, Gowon, Awolowo etc. all have their strength and weaknesses, those are the past generations, the new generation should wise up and break from the shackles of the past. We can still achieve a lot whether together or in a different country.

SamNaijaboy:
The Igbo man unlike the African American was served just deserts for being supremacist towards other tribes. They just met their match with the Fulani who had similar expansionist culture.
The Yoruba were caught in between.
If Ojukwu had attacked Kaduna, the northerners would have made a beeline back to the North and that would have helped the Yoruba take control of their land

SamNaijaboy:
The Igbo man unlike the African American was served just deserts for being supremacist towards other tribes. They just met their match with the Fulani who had similar expansionist culture.
The Yoruba were caught in between.
If Ojukwu had attacked Kaduna, the northerners would have made a beeline back to the North and that would have helped the Yoruba take control of their land

SamNaijaboy:
Hope you understand the issue here.
The North rules with the aid of Britain, who wants their former colony to be subservient to them in perpetuity.
The UK is backed by the US. That is what we are up against.
The US and the UK like the way they are cheating Nigeria and despoiling their environment with regards to the oil.
1. Their oil companies steal the resources (under-reporting of oil cargos in connivance with the fools and crooks in government) and don’t pay their fair share of taxes
2. They don’t have to bother about the environment.
3. They rigged the elections from 1951 and ensured the lopsided elections and censuses.

You have to first go to the US and UK and cut a good deal with them about the oil. Probably offering better terms than they are currently ripping us by, before the South can have a chance to flip things around/restructure or secede.

That’s what a smart people serious about seceding will do. It’s already really bad. The lingua franca of the Nigerian army is Hausa. You don’t speak Hausa, you are not going anywhere in your career.

Wiifesnatcher:


your people that represented political positions in Lagos lately was the handiwork of Tinubu way of playing liberal politics, gives enough accommodation for Igbo to enter schools in Lagos state that Ambode you people now see as god against him restricted your people


you people are bunch of clown that don't deserve anyone attention. only foool tried in satisfying the Oliver twist and ingrate igbo

SamNaijaboy:
The Yoruba did remain neutral until the Biafra Army invaded Yorubaland.
Why do you keep glossing over this fact.
Or they should have allowed Ojukwu massacre and rape Yorubaland like he did to the mid-West?
That’s where there is a deep flaw with most Igbo. They
will be quarreling with you if you don’t allow them have their way with you, offering you terms they could never accept. And once you reject it, you become their enemy. Never seen anything like it before
You always assume you are smarter than someone else. As long as the person is of a different tribe. That’s the definition of tribalism

meccuno:
I am going to ignore the rubbish you just wrote up there because I believe you are what you speak. A nonentity. It's only a deranged fool that would say a whole trip are ingrates . What exactly are we supposed to be thanking you for? Did you reconstruct, rehabilitate,and reconcile the SE? We never wanted to be a part of this union but you brought us back. Just because of oil. Are we supposed to be thanking you for that? Please don't be foolish.

meccuno:
yes the Igbos have a way of bragging which goes a bit to the extreme,but you and your people considered that when you fought for 3 years to bring them back. So who are you supposed to blame? The man who said he doesn't want to be your friend or the man who dislikes his character but still insist that they must be in the same house but still complains about how smart he feels orthinks he knows more than every one. Dude,friendship is not by force.make up your mind on exactly what you want and stop confusing your self.

meccuno:
gosh...are you this daft? i repeat no one cares if he took you to hell. we just wanted to be left alone. and who was killing you? and which war did we bring to your land? if you are talking about the movement of Biafran troops to Lagos then you are a slowpoke. where exactly was the seat of power? was it not Lagos? were you expecting them to go to Kano? if you didn't want crises or blood shed as you want us to believe then you would have told the F.G to relocate the seat of power to any northern state and remain neutral. you just like to put your mouth where it does not consign you.

meccuno:
we will not be a Nation forever. Unless you are not proud of who you are. I am a proud African and a very proud Igbo son. All I want is progress,whatever Kanu is doing is a means to an end. It is very obvious Nigeria can never be that Nation we all would be proud of. We are more than 50 years old. I live in Lagos and it's a shit hole just like every other state in Nigeria. Compared to countries like SA ,Egypt,Kenya etc. We cannot manage ourselves it is evident. Let's all agree for a separation so that we can move at our pace. The Northerners and your people have occupied all federal government agencies,there are no Jobs but you only protest when an Igbo man is caught for fraud not minding the fact that his Homeland is deliberately made unconduicive. We are our own problems. Kanu speaks you lots criticize him to death but do absolutely nothing afterwards. Is that a curse? I don't get.you keep advising and telling us how soon and gloom awaits but you suffer the same thing we suffer. If you have a better option start it then we can follow you. I won't mind what tribe you are from.

Conner44:
Nigeria beats it’s chest for subduing Biafra in the past civil war. A war where everyone else in the country was against just a section of it.

When an army of over 300 tribes (with continuous external aid) attacked just highest 10 other tribes waging a war that lasted for years. Then after using starvation they are happy there was a surrender.

That scenario is like David and Goliath fight but this time Goliath won ... how? By begging his soldiers to surround and box tiny David into a corner knowing fully well that he couldn’t defeat tiny David all by himself.

Cowards.

Chemcrown:



inasmuch I am falling for your submission, Kanu starts his secession campaign on VERY wrong footing. I ASSUME most Yorubas like me wouldn't have gone against if not for his anti-yoruba crusade of his campaign. Thanks

meccuno:
the truth is when people quarrel we think they are prettypetty or not trying to be reasonable. But when the same issues happens to us we understand how those people feel. In as much as I don't support that side of him but there are statements you read and you begin to think if thoses statements are true. If you see pure hate between the different tribes you would marvel. Facebook, vanguard online,Twitter,and Nairaland. It's nauseating. We can still be friends but seperate so that if there are Igbos misbehaving in ur land you have every right to deal with them.

Area4Area:
Where were you when Nnamdi Kanu, IPOB, their online minions were calling Yorubas and northerners unprintable names on social media, you think everyone was deaf,dumb and blind to the insults?
You preach hate and you get hate

T9ksy:



Awo owes you impish ingrates, nada! And we his people who entrusted him with our destiny are perfectly happy with his conduct and achievements in the 1st republic and leading on to that meaningless war, your duplicitous elite dragged us all into.
Moreover, we don't exactly expect his vanquished foes to lionise him neither are we perturbed by the way and manner you go round demonising Awo.

The fact of the matter is that Awo was a great yoruba leader who served his people well against all odds most especially from our so-called brother(sic), east of the river niger. The yorubas did not elevate him to that exalted post in their land so that he can serve the interest of those who have never wished us, well.

meccuno:
yes the Igbos have a way of bragging which goes a bit to the extreme,but you and your people considered that when you fought for 3 years to bring them back. So who are you supposed to blame? The man who said he doesn't want to be your friend or the man who dislikes his character but still insist that they must be in the same house but still complains about how smart he feels orthinks he knows more than every one. Dude,friendship is not by force.make up your mind on exactly what you want and stop confusing your self.

Area4Area:
If you are serious of leaving, the doors are still open and the north had promised no blood letting this time.
Just move, conduct your referendum and declare Biafra

SamNaijaboy:
What makes you think Yoruba people care about Igbo leaving Nigeria?
As long as you go with only your 5 landlocked states alone and don’t try to annex SS to your Biafra dream.
But N.Kanu already calculates most of the SS as Biafraland . The people say dem no Dey come with una.

Btw, not talking about bragging. Just way of life and attempts to control others or behave when in their land

IGBOSON1:


Arrogance and a wicked, dark, malevolent soul are the hallmarks of all 'Awo did nothing wrong' apostles like you, and this is ultimately what will keep your ethnicity in the doldrums while having a false sense of morality and pride!

You look at the situation of the Yoruba in the world comity of nations and you can still puff your chest out and say Awo took the right course in the late 60s? A course which ultimately secured the Fulani hegemony and which saw the Fulani Oligarchs lording it over everyone else....a course that saw to the survival of Lugards contraption; the 'mere geographical expression' that Awo railed against is what you see as acceptable and in the best interest of the Yoruba?

Don't you think the Yoruba are more than capable of rubbing shoulders with the likes of Singapore, UAE and Japan? Or you think your survival as a people can only be guaranteed within the context of a 'one Nigeria' where the Fulani elite call the shots and the rest of us are relegated to the position of serfs who must do as they're told?

Awo had the golden opportunity to help pull his people out of a 'mere geographical expression' when the fulani 'overlords' had their hands full with Biafra, but what did he do? He went and joined forces with the very medieval-minded people who have brought a once hopeful country to its knees and made it become the butt of jokes and derision the world over! Not only that, he also went and dreamt up the 'starvation as a weapon of war' policy and handed the document to Gowon for implementation...this was after Nigeria discovered it couldn't match and defeat Biafra in a conventional war! The mere fact you and Awo see nothing wrong with this shows just how evil you lot are and shows you're devoid of any shred of humanity! So what if Biafra wanted to leave your hateful and bigoted ass....can't you survive on your own either as a distinct Yoruba nation or with your beloved Fulani in 'one Nigeria' without the East or Igbos? You do a great disservice to your people if you say you can't survive on your own!

Moro/n, nobody dragged you into any war! If anything what dragged Nigeria into a war with Biafra was the unrelenting killing of Easterners in the North, coupled with the reneging on the Aburi accord (the reneging on that accord showed just who was and who wasn't in charge of the country at the time)! You're equally welcome to blame the idealist Nzeogwu and his co-coupists if you like....i will agree with you on that score!

'Vanquished foes'? Hope it's not Igbos you're referring to here when we're all in the same boat? Or is Yorubaland insulated from the mess close to 60 years of Fulani hegemony (thanks to the likes of your man) has wrought on Nigeria?

I know what your problem is! Your problem is that you have a very limited vision and expectations for where you see the Yoruba as a people in the fast-paced digital world of today: to you as long as they remain part of 'one Nigeria' then all is sweet! This is brought about by a lack of ambition and self-belief! Even Awo that i have issues with, i admit was a visionary leader for his region! What let him down was his hatred for Igbos and possibly believing the north who must have promised to assist him become Head of State if he was onside in their war against the Biafrans! This wasn't considering the best interests of his people, but was all about giving into his own personal emotions and lust for power...coupled with poking nose into what the Igbos stand to gain if they managed to leave Nigeria!

T9ksy:



Emphatically NO .........but the ibos expected him(Awo) to send his yoruba people onto "golgotha" for their cause.

meccuno:
please stop talking like a kid. A country is not formed that way. There are two ways.either through war or a referendum.

meccuno:
when the Igbos were leaving in 66,we didn't factor in the Yorubas so I wonder why you are greatly elevating your importance.

LegendHero:


Just like the Igbo remain neutral by not killing western region premier (Akintola).

Just like the Igbos remain neutral by not attacking Ore right?

Rubbish!

Area4Area:
But majority of the Yorubas want you to leave now just like the northerners and what are you doing about it?

LegendHero:


I’ve always wondered also why 95% of Nigerians making wave in diaspora are either Yorubas or Igbos. We are both intelligent tribes with thirst for success and with some sort of intellectual abilities embedded in our DNA.

The game the North is playing is the actual game Britain played against Africa. Mix the intellectuals and the less-educated together and give the latter the political power through democracy. Since it’s a game of numbers, the norther will continue to have a say in any political establishment in this democracy.

Look at the votes from Kaduna, Kano, and Katsina for example, can you see that the south is at the mercy of the North? Meaning the fulanis will continue to select people for presidency in as much as this nation stands.

I’m trying to give a realist solution to all this menace. To pull out of the country, the Igbos can’t do it alone, even if they must you must learn to bring the Yorubas in your fold.

You should understand we Yorubas, we’ve not gone through what the average Igbo went through in the war during the 60s, so it’s very hard to rally people around for a common cause. The best tool to gather people is to give them something to fight for, people only react when you can appeal to their emotions.

Nigeria will eventually break, maybe in our generation maybe not, but I’m 100% sure that Nigeria will eventually break one day. But I’m still trying to figure out how that can be achievable optimally.

Nigeria situation now is a war between the rich and the poor, coz there is a conspiracy among the leaders both Yoruba and Igbos to keep their subject in this union.

The animosity between the Igbos and Yorubas is borne out of the fact that the Yorubas thought if they don’t align with the north the Igbo will. Same thing the Igbo thought if they don’t align will the north, the Yorubas will. It’s just a political game by the leaders and we are just pawn in the game.

It’s evident in the political game of Nigeria right from time which saw the brainy vice playing second fiddle to not too literate president or aspirants from the north.
Azikwe/Balewa, Shagari/Ekwueme, Tofa/Sylvester Ugoh
Buhari/Osinbajo.

Chemcrown:



inasmuch I am falling for your submission, Kanu starts his secession campaign on VERY wrong footing. I ASSUME most Yorubas like me wouldn't have gone against if not for his anti-yoruba crusade of his campaign. Thanks

SamNaijaboy:
The Yoruba did remain neutral until the Biafra Army invaded Yorubaland.
Why do you keep glossing over this fact.
Or they should have allowed Ojukwu massacre and rape Yorubaland like he did to the mid-West?
That’s where there is a deep flaw with most Igbo. They
will be quarreling with you if you don’t allow them have their way with you, offering you terms they could never accept. And once you reject it, you become their enemy. Never seen anything like it before
You always assume you are smarter than someone else. As long as the person is of a different tribe. That’s the definition of tribalism

meccuno:
I am going to ignore the rubbish you just wrote up there because I believe you are what you speak. A nonentity. It's only a deranged fool that would say a whole trip are ingrates . What exactly are we supposed to be thanking you for? Did you reconstruct, rehabilitate,and reconcile the SE? We never wanted to be a part of this union but you brought us back. Just because of oil. Are we supposed to be thanking you for that? Please don't be foolish.

SamNaijaboy:
The malevolence is on the Igbo side unfortunately. You massacred other regions leaders and that led to a series of events that led to the pogrom against the Igbo in the NORTH. Not in the West despite the fact that you killed their premier.
If anyone is most responsible for the unitary state called Nigeria dominated by the Fulani, it would be another set of Igbo men: Nwabueze, Nnamdi Orizor, and Ironsi. Together they drafted and promulgated the decree that took away the powers of the regions.
What were they thinking?
Awo suggested the peaceful succession clause which somehow Zik did not support
Zik also declined to form a government with Awolowo, preferring the North when he had the chance for Southern solidarity.

So instead of fighting other people’s leaders, perhaps you are best served looking at your own leaders’ conduct and plans to subjugate others that failed.
Your problem should be with the Northerners but instead you always look at the Yorubas that kept your properties in Lagos and the associated rent and gave them to you back and find them to be the people to blame.
Blaming Not the SS with the abandoned houses saga, but the Yorubas.

The mid-west that your Biafran soldiers raped their women and murdered their men in the guise of liberation from Nigeria is there. None of your leaders has thought it fit to apologize for the atrocities Ojukwu’s soldiers visited on the MidWest in that massacre but your N.Kanu idiotically includes their territory in his phantom Biafra.
Adama Boro fought to the death than to go with your Biafra.

I think you should go somewhere with your hyperventilating victim mentality that is so prevalent with your people; and should you find that no one likes you in the country, I suggest you look at the mirror first.

Make friends with your neighbors that can’t stand you first before you cross several states to point fingers at the Yorubas who have never attacked you but was attacked by your megalomaniac Ojukwu in his war against the North. Does Lagos sound like Kano or Kaduna?