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Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by LegendHero(m): 7:55pm On Sep 15, 2019 |
Also I think for Nigeria to break up, the southerners need to be strategic and try to rally around a strong southerner to become president either Yoruba or Igbo. The reason is this: Most military installments are concentrated in the north, most federal establishments are controlled by the north, the federal government itself means NORTH in Nigeria. If we go to war in this settings, or try to break the union it will be hard coz you will be at the mercy of the north and they will make sure they frustrate the effort. If we have a stronged willed southerner as president, we can start by strategically changing the configuration of this country, restructure a lot in the security architecture, create a state police, try to implement the restructuring of the federation in a clannish way and try to weaken the grip of the north on Nigeria. Although the northerners will be furious if a southern president is doing this, but trust me they can’t do jack until he complete the 4years, if they try jack then Nigeria can go up in flames even before the completion of the first term. We can only pull out of this union when we can have some form of level Playing ground and when power seems leveled. The southerners need to wise up and challenge this democracy and reconfigure this rubbish before this nation can make progress or break up. To break out of Nigeria is not a matter of propaganda or protesting alone, it needs a lot of planning and strategic approach. You have to be cunning and always don’t reveal your true intention. I will not want an Osinbajo or Obi as a president because those guys although they are intelligent, but they will turn out to be weak just like Jonathan. The north will frustrate any Lilly livered southerner, the did it to Obasanjo who implemented shariah law all Over, they did it to Jonathan, they will do the same to Obi or Osinbajo. 1 Like |
Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by meccuno: 7:58pm On Sep 15, 2019 |
LegendHero:The major problem that the easterners have.we lack selfless leaders. |
Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by SamNaijaboy: 8:06pm On Sep 15, 2019 |
The Yoruba did remain neutral until the Biafra Army invaded Yorubaland. Why do you keep glossing over this fact. Or they should have allowed Ojukwu massacre and rape Yorubaland like he did to the mid-West? That’s where there is a deep flaw with most Igbo. They will be quarreling with you if you don’t allow them have their way with you, offering you terms they could never accept. And once you reject it, you become their enemy. Never seen anything like it before ![]() You always assume you are smarter than someone else. As long as the person is of a different tribe. That’s the definition of tribalism meccuno: 2 Likes |
Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by Wiifesnatcher(m): 8:08pm On Sep 15, 2019 |
meccuno: your people that represented political positions in Lagos lately was the handiwork of Tinubu way of playing liberal politics, gives enough accommodation for Igbo to enter schools in Lagos state that Ambode you people now see as god against him restricted your people you people are bunch of clown that don't deserve anyone attention. only foool tried in satisfying the Oliver twist and ingrate igbo |
Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by SamNaijaboy: 8:16pm On Sep 15, 2019 |
The Igbo man unlike the African American was served just deserts for being supremacist towards other tribes. They just met their match with the Fulani who had similar expansionist culture. The Yoruba were caught in between. If Ojukwu had attacked Kaduna, the northerners would have made a beeline back to the North and that would have helped the Yoruba take control of Lagos and aided the disintegration LegendHero: 2 Likes |
Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by LegendHero(m): 8:28pm On Sep 15, 2019 |
SamNaijaboy: You have a point tho, if Ojukwu had changed tactics and stopped being too ambitious to the extent of trying to invade the west, the situation might have been different. But notwithstanding bro, we shouldn’t blame these guys for venting their anger against Nigeria, coz no matter how we thought Ojukwu erred, he is still their hero and they will do anything to defend him while we also do the same to Awolowo even if the Igbos thought otherwise. It’s a game of loyalty, and we shouldn’t try to ask one another why they love or detest someone. This thread does not serve any purpose, coz we are all still gonna be dabbling around and end up insulting one another’s hero just like the other threads. So I ask, should we continue like this and argue over any little things while the northerners continue to unite and have a flawless victory over this union. When the north abuse the Yorubas, the Igbos become their advocates and defend the north, when the north abuse Igbos, the Yoruba becomes the advocates and defend the same north. Nawa for us o 2 Likes |
Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by T9ksy(m): 8:48pm On Sep 15, 2019 |
SamNaijaboy: @ bolded.............My point, precisely!!! The northern soldiers stationed in yorubaland had already sent their loved ones back to their towns and villages, in the north. No way will they stay back in their stations, (not even the capital city) whilst ojukwu's troops are decimating their families and .homeland |
Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by SamNaijaboy: 8:52pm On Sep 15, 2019 |
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Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by LegendHero(m): 9:15pm On Sep 15, 2019 |
SamNaijaboy:Nice one. That’s why I opined on my earlier reply that to break up/ restructure Nigeria, the southerners need to break the hold of the northerners on Nigeria. This configuration favors the north and if the status quo remains, naija will remain like this till God knows when. Although I still think the Britain hold on Nigeria may be a myth perpetrated by the people that matters to keep this union intact. I might be wrong tho. 1 Like |
Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by meccuno: 9:19pm On Sep 15, 2019 |
Wiifesnatcher:I am going to ignore the rubbish you just wrote up there because I believe you are what you speak. A nonentity. It's only a deranged fool that would say a whole trip are ingrates . What exactly are we supposed to be thanking you for? Did you reconstruct, rehabilitate,and reconcile the SE? We never wanted to be a part of this union but you brought us back. Just because of oil. Are we supposed to be thanking you for that? Please don't be foolish. 1 Like |
Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by meccuno: 9:23pm On Sep 15, 2019 |
SamNaijaboy:yes the Igbos have a way of bragging which goes a bit to the extreme,but you and your people considered that when you fought for 3 years to bring them back. So who are you supposed to blame? The man who said he doesn't want to be your friend or the man who dislikes his character but still insist that they must be in the same house but still complains about how smart he feels orthinks he knows more than every one. Dude,friendship is not by force.make up your mind on exactly what you want and stop confusing your self. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by Area4Area: 9:32pm On Sep 15, 2019 |
meccuno:If you are serious of leaving, the doors are still open and the north had promised no blood letting this time. Just move, conduct your referendum and declare Biafra 2 Likes |
Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by Area4Area: 9:35pm On Sep 15, 2019 |
meccuno:You've been told to leave the north and go get Biafra twice in the last two years, what are you still waiting for? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by Area4Area: 9:38pm On Sep 15, 2019 |
meccuno:You've been told by the north to leave in peace, conduct your referendum and declare Biafra so what are you crying for again? |
Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by Chemcrown: 9:39pm On Sep 15, 2019 |
meccuno: inasmuch I am falling for your submission, Kanu starts his secession campaign on VERY wrong footing. I ASSUME most Yorubas like me wouldn't have gone against if not for his anti-yoruba crusade of his campaign. Thanks 2 Likes |
Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by oyatz(m): 9:47pm On Sep 15, 2019 |
By 100 years after the civil war, the narrative would have changed to Biafra actually defeated Nigeria during the civil war but the Internal Community begged Biafra to have mercy on Nigeria by not seceeding. Conner44: 1 Like |
Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by meccuno: 10:17pm On Sep 15, 2019 |
Chemcrown:the truth is when people quarrel we think they are pretty or not trying to be reasonable. But when the same issues happens to us we understand how those people feel. In as much as I don't support that side of him but there are statements you read and you begin to think if thoses statements are true. If you see pure hate between the different tribes you would marvel. Facebook, vanguard online,Twitter,and Nairaland. It's nauseating. We can still be friends but seperate so that if there are Igbos misbehaving in ur land you have every right to deal with them. 1 Like |
Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by Area4Area: 10:26pm On Sep 15, 2019 |
meccuno:Where were you when Nnamdi Kanu, IPOB, their online minions were calling Yorubas and northerners unprintable names on social media, you think everyone was deaf,dumb and blind to the insults? You preach hate and you get hate |
Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by meccuno: 11:59pm On Sep 15, 2019 |
Area4Area:well,unless you want the hate you have for the Igbos becloud your sense of reasoning. Then you and your people would always be beneath the northerners. No tribe is lesser than the other. We are created as equals . no until the British created an animal farm called Nigeria. Whatever he said I apologise but if you still think he is evil then maybe let's try killing your people about 3 million,your parents and siblings and let's see how much Love you would show. Last time I checked,you are not Nelson Mandela. It's very easy for you to criticize until you walk in those shoes. 2 Likes |
Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by IGBOSON1: 12:06am On Sep 16, 2019 |
T9ksy: Arrogance and a wicked, dark, malevolent soul are the hallmarks of all 'Awo did nothing wrong' apostles like you, and this is ultimately what will keep your ethnicity in the doldrums while having a false sense of morality and pride! You look at the situation of the Yoruba in the world comity of nations and you can still puff your chest out and say Awo took the right course in the late 60s? A course which ultimately secured the Fulani hegemony and which saw the Fulani Oligarchs lording it over everyone else....a course that saw to the survival of Lugards contraption; the 'mere geographical expression' that Awo railed against is what you see as acceptable and in the best interest of the Yoruba? Don't you think the Yoruba are more than capable of rubbing shoulders with the likes of Singapore, UAE and Japan? Or you think your survival as a people can only be guaranteed within the context of a 'one Nigeria' where the Fulani elite call the shots and the rest of us are relegated to the position of serfs who must do as they're told? Awo had the golden opportunity to help pull his people out of a 'mere geographical expression' when the fulani 'overlords' had their hands full with Biafra, but what did he do? He went and joined forces with the very medieval-minded people who have brought a once hopeful country to its knees and made it become the butt of jokes and derision the world over! Not only that, he also went and dreamt up the 'starvation as a weapon of war' policy and handed the document to Gowon for implementation...this was after Nigeria discovered it couldn't match and defeat Biafra in a conventional war! The mere fact you and Awo see nothing wrong with this shows just how evil you lot are and shows you're devoid of any shred of humanity! So what if Biafra wanted to leave your hateful and bigoted ass....can't you survive on your own either as a distinct Yoruba nation or with your beloved Fulani in 'one Nigeria' without the East or Igbos? You do a great disservice to your people if you say you can't survive on your own! Moro/n, nobody dragged you into any war! If anything what dragged Nigeria into a war with Biafra was the unrelenting killing of Easterners in the North, coupled with the reneging on the Aburi accord (the reneging on that accord showed just who was and who wasn't in charge of the country at the time)! You're equally welcome to blame the idealist Nzeogwu and his co-coupists if you like....i will agree with you on that score! 'Vanquished foes'? Hope it's not Igbos you're referring to here when we're all in the same boat? Or is Yorubaland insulated from the mess close to 60 years of Fulani hegemony (thanks to the likes of your man) has wrought on Nigeria? I know what your problem is! Your problem is that you have a very limited vision and expectations for where you see the Yoruba as a people in the fast-paced digital world of today: to you as long as they remain part of 'one Nigeria' then all is sweet! This is brought about by a lack of ambition and self-belief! Even Awo that i have issues with, i admit was a visionary leader for his region! What let him down was his hatred for Igbos and possibly believing the north who must have promised to assist him become Head of State if he was onside in their war against the Biafrans! This wasn't considering the best interests of his people, but was all about giving into his own personal emotions and lust for power...coupled with poking nose into what the Igbos stand to gain if they managed to leave Nigeria! 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by SamNaijaboy: 12:29am On Sep 16, 2019 |
What makes you think Yoruba people care about Igbo leaving Nigeria? ![]() As long as you go with only your 5 landlocked states alone and don’t try to annex SS to your Biafra dream. But N.Kanu already calculates most of the SS as Biafraland ![]() Btw, not talking about bragging. Just way of life and attempts to control others or behave when in their land meccuno: |
Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by meccuno: 12:34am On Sep 16, 2019 |
Area4Area:please stop talking like a kid. A country is not formed that way. There are two ways.either through war or a referendum. 2 Likes |
Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by meccuno: 12:36am On Sep 16, 2019 |
SamNaijaboy:when the Igbos were leaving in 66,we didn't factor in the Yorubas so I wonder why you are greatly elevating your importance. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by SamNaijaboy: 12:49am On Sep 16, 2019 |
The malevolence is on the Igbo side unfortunately. You massacred other regions leaders and that led to a series of events that led to the pogrom against the Igbo in the NORTH. Not in the West despite the fact that you killed their premier. If anyone is most responsible for the unitary state called Nigeria dominated by the Fulani, it would be another set of Igbo men: Nwabueze, Nnamdi Orizor, and Ironsi. Together they drafted and promulgated the decree that took away the powers of the regions. What were they thinking? Awo suggested the peaceful succession clause which somehow Zik did not support Zik also declined to form a government with Awolowo, preferring the North when he had the chance for Southern solidarity. So instead of fighting other people’s leaders, perhaps you are best served looking at your own leaders’ conduct and plans to subjugate others that failed. Your problem should be with the Northerners but instead you always look at the Yorubas that kept your properties in Lagos and the associated rent and gave them to you back and find them to be the people to blame. Blaming Not the SS with the abandoned houses saga, but the Yorubas. The mid-west that your Biafran soldiers raped their women and murdered their men in the guise of liberation from Nigeria is there. None of your leaders has thought it fit to apologize for the atrocities Ojukwu’s soldiers visited on the MidWest in that massacre but your N.Kanu idiotically includes their territory in his phantom Biafra. Adama Boro fought to the death than to go with your Biafra. I think you should go somewhere with your hyperventilating victim mentality that is so prevalent with your people; and should you find that no one likes you in the country, I suggest you look at the mirror first. Make friends with your neighbors that can’t stand you first before you cross several states to point fingers at the Yorubas who have never attacked you but was attacked by your megalomaniac Ojukwu in his war against the North. Does Lagos sound like Kano or Kaduna? IGBOSON1: 4 Likes |
Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by Uchek(m): 1:45am On Sep 16, 2019 |
How did Igbos expected Awolowo to send his Yoruba people onto golgotha? Please educate me T9ksy: |
Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by Area4Area: 4:24am On Sep 16, 2019 |
meccuno:.... which of the two ways do you want? |
Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by Area4Area: 4:27am On Sep 16, 2019 |
meccuno:But majority of the Yorubas want you to leave now just like the northerners and what are you doing about it? |
Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by richie240: 5:58am On Sep 16, 2019 |
LegendHero:Lolz,.....can u just imagine. They will be the first to find trouble and d first to cry blue murder over a bruised nose. I blame lugard for all these. Its crystal clear water and oil can never mix. We are different in all ramifications. Our values are different. I just pray they get their Biafra. Area4Area:Leave for where? This month alone, you know how many of them have migrated to the same "zoo" they deride? There's that innate toxicity in their genes that breeds strife wherever they find themselves. Just this yr 2019 alone: Togo attacked "Nigerian" traders, Ghana attacked "Nigerian" traders, S/Africa attacks "Nigerian" traders 1 Like |
Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by richie240: 6:26am On Sep 16, 2019 |
LegendHero:I beg to differ with d bolded. The Yoruba's had no hatred nor ill feeling towards the Igbo's pre-2015 not until d arrival and instigation of the hatefilled monster in d form of nnamdi KANU. The average Yoruba had always seen d Igbo's as a brother from another mother. The hate speeches spread against Yorubas by d gremlin was not d major concern but d wide acceptance d imp's (hatefilled messages) received amongst his kins that jolted d sw to reality DT they had hitherto bn cohabiting with inate enemies We have proved our hospitality in previous govts where Igbo's were made commissioners and even vied for (and won) posts in sw, even though they have never reciprocated such kind gestures in their enclaves. #Eye_have_opened! Chemcrown:My point exactly! Uwazurike's massob has been championing d biafria cause for yrs without any rancour btw d sw and se, but a semi-lunatic has changed all dt. I thank him because, but for his emergence and d acceptance of his hate against Yorubas by his folks, we would still be living in foool's paradise of thinking we have trustworthy allies. 4 Likes
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Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by richie240: 6:38am On Sep 16, 2019 |
SamNaijaboy:What neutrality are we even talking about here? As in I don't even gerrit. They killed the leaders/officers of the north and west and shielded ALL of theirs from harm and they still have d guts to talk about neutrality? Na wa o. |
Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by Wiifesnatcher(m): 7:00am On Sep 16, 2019 |
meccuno:. who brought you back? or the mumu major general that ran and abandoned your forefather to die like Christmas goat brought you back you people lost your dignity and trust long time ago when one mumu led you people to destruction, only to ran and come back to contest in the same country, KANU did the same for you clowns and I'm sure another person will still come out to do the same because you people reasoning is naturally plugged on empirical thought is it not funny that you're trying to go rough when I'm still replying with soft words. if I go rough with you, you will be more frustrated than this |
Re: Igbos Should Be Grateful To Awolowo For His Role During Civil War – Opadokun by richie240: 7:06am On Sep 16, 2019 |
SamNaijaboy:So so sad! Please remind me of a word for someone who loves and respects the one who hates him but hates d one who loves and respects him. Stockholm syndrome or what?
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