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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 10:39am On Sep 21, 2019
Logobenz0:
Shows us the rail. We want to see it grin grin


He is stupid for trying to equate his moving truck with our world class rail

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 10:41am On Sep 21, 2019
Logobenz0:
For your information, this is world class rail and not that trailer you have in that shitthol grin grin

Thank you. That's world class. Chinese and European standard not that moving outdated rickety colonial truck on a rail

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 10:44am On Sep 21, 2019
Logobenz0:
In Nigeria we call this catapilar grin grin

cheesy grin grin. The day they launched that thing I watched it on BBC. You need to see the way villagers came out running almost nakeds with some kids having just a loose pant around their waste as they were seen chasing after the train with waving clothes as their politicians stood by smiling happily feeling fullfilled

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 10:45am On Sep 21, 2019
Kazikazi:
The bottom line is.. KQ owns 3 planes

you can't sell leased planes can you
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 10:45am On Sep 21, 2019
Logobenz0:
1 Kenya light rail grin grin
2 Nigeria rail grin grin

Pls don't run this comparism, you are insulting abuja

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:01am On Sep 21, 2019

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:03am On Sep 21, 2019
Acadavah:

The construction continue.


Great for TZ
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:08am On Sep 21, 2019
Kazikazi:
I got this thing to post..
Pokot fellows of Kenya!

A minute of silence for the uncladded Pokot citizens.


#prayforpokot #prayforkenya grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Logobenz0: 11:09am On Sep 21, 2019
samorobo:


cheesy grin grin. The day they launched that thing I watched it on BBC. You need to see the way villagers came out running almost nakeds with some kids having just a loose pant around their waste as they were seen chasing after the train with waving clothes as their politicians stood by smiling happily feeling fullfilled
All because they want to see catapilar grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Logobenz0: 11:09am On Sep 21, 2019
samorobo:


Pls don't run this comparism, you are insulting abuja
grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:10am On Sep 21, 2019
gallivant:


It's because of food obsession you can't finish a project you lazy fools. From pipelines to phantom railways.


Words to expect from starving folks

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Logobenz0: 11:11am On Sep 21, 2019

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:12am On Sep 21, 2019
rvp20182:
You're very combative which won't help your ignorance. Of course Chinese are building Kenya SGR. They are the best in that business now. We are trying to figure out your underfunded SGR.

Figure your failed overpriced indebted cargo- less sgr

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:13am On Sep 21, 2019
Kazikazi:
There is no farm in Kenya,TZ,SA or anywhere in Africa which makes 100 bags per hectare ( 10 tph). If u argue,just bring a proof. The only nation does that is USA not even Europe.

And to get that that,you need to use GM. SA with their GM gets only 4 tph. Kenya is less than 2 tph.

Its very hard talking agriculture to fellows who starve and knows nothing about farming
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nation.co.ke/business/seedsofgold/How-I-harvest-40-bags-of-maize-per-acre/2301238-2226170-view-asAMP-tnca3lz/index.html. In Kenya serious maize cultivation is done mostly around Eldoret.. about 100kms radius from Eldoret is Kenya maize planting region...not everywhere like Tanzania where maize is grown without any care.There farmers produce on average 3-4 tonnes an acre...10-12 tonnes an hectares... so maybe you should visit and learn serious maize farming

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 11:15am On Sep 21, 2019
samorobo:


A minute of silence for the uncladded Pokot citizens.


#prayforpokot #prayforkenya grin
Those guys are not in 2019,Probably they are in stone age.
But is there any other people in Africa in such a terrible state?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:23am On Sep 21, 2019
Kazikazi:
Those guys are not in 2019,Probably they are in stone age.
But is there any other people in Africa in such a terrible state?
Not seen indigenous people even down south like the Khoisan before
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:28am On Sep 21, 2019
Stevoh18:


You just can't believe Kenya is way more developed than "oil rich/capital of poverty"

Call Kenya "Singapore' because we're getting there faster

Idiot, when will you wake up from your dreams? grin
When you say Kenya/Little India, the only things that come to mind are Kibera and starvation. wink

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:29am On Sep 21, 2019
rvp20182:
You have more serious hunger issues than Nigeria. Kenya is better than both.

Here is video evidence of 2yr old starved to death.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raCzNJavEss


Don't just get me started on Kenya starvation

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:32am On Sep 21, 2019
samorobo:


Don't just get me started in Kenya starvation
Kenya is the poster child for worldwide hunger. Even in nairoshit, a third of the people starve.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:32am On Sep 21, 2019
gallivant:


Stop venting and witness Singapore! For your eyes only. cool cool












Yuck.this is the commuter truck

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 11:33am On Sep 21, 2019
rvp2018:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nation.co.ke/business/seedsofgold/How-I-harvest-40-bags-of-maize-per-acre/2301238-2226170-view-asAMP-tnca3lz/index.html. In Kenya serious maize cultivation is done mostly around Eldoret.. about 100kms radius from Eldoret is Kenya maize planting region...not everywhere like Tanzania where maize is grown without any care.There farmers produce on average 3-4 tonnes an acre...10-12 tonnes an hectares... so maybe you should visit and learn serious maize farming
It looks like you are just obsessed with Tanzania. How can we plant maize everywhere? Do u think all of Tz land has the same PH? Do u know 32% of Tanzania is under conservation? What about our Dodoma vineyards? Sisal?cloves,coffee, tea,beans,cashews etc? Do u still talk about maize everywhere?

Your article has holes! No seed type,no little details like spacing etc. Because by giving out those details,we could get the exact amount of maize produced per hectare.

Anyway,I agree, average farmer in Kenya gets 10 bags per acre! Which is about 2 and half tonnes per acre.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:35am On Sep 21, 2019
68816419:

Nigga, many of your fleets are up for sale cry cry cry

Kenya Airways


is selling seven planes and an engine in a multi-billion shilling deal that marks the carrier’s latest efforts to reduce its fleet in a bid to shore up its financial position.

The loss-making carrier has hired UK-based Air Partner to guide it in the planned sale of the six Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner planes, one Boeing B777-300 and a spare GE engine at a time when a shortage of pilots is forcing the airline to cancel flights and trim routes.

Kenya Airways (popularly known as KQ) will lease back the aircraft after selling them, according to contract documents between the airline and Air Partner seen by the Business Daily, signalling that it does not intend to see the plane sale hurt its routes.

“Kenya Airways is conducting a series of sale and leaseback transactions covering 6 x B787-8, B777-300 and GEnx spare engine,” said the contract document.

“KQ has requested Air Partner to conduct a desktop review addressing a series of questions around these sale and leaseback transactions.”
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The Nairobi bourse listed airline had a fleet of 41 airplanes at the end of last year, comprising a mix of Boeing planes for long-haul and Bombardier and Embraer planes on its short and medium haul flights. Its rival Ethiopian Airlines operates more than 100 planes.

A new 787-8 Dreamliner goes for $206.8 million (Sh21.49 billion) according to a price guide by global aviation website Aircraft Compare.

Ageing fleet

KQ in 2011 signed a deal for the purchase of nine 787-8 Dreamliner planes with Boeing to replace its ageing fleet and expand routes and flight frequencies.

It received the first Dreamliner plane, which is famed for its fuel efficiency, in 2014.

A used General Electric (GE) aircraft engine is expected to fetch hundreds of millions of shillings, with the price of most new ones topping the Sh1 billion mark.

Kenya Airways declined to respond to three e-mails from the Business Daily over the plane sale.

Restructuring its fleet, including selling aircraft and sub-leasing to other airlines has been one of KQ’s focus areas in recent years as it seeks to return to profitability.

Its fleet size has been dropping since 2015 in a period that has seen Kenya Airways struggle to return to profitability after making steep losses in 2014, causing some of its engineers and pilots to seek greener pastures.

It had 52 airplanes in 2015 and the fleet dropped to 39 in 2017 before rising to 41 last year(of which only 3 are fully owned ).

The airline has been forced to cancel dozens of flights due to a shortfall in the required pilot numbers.

Flight cancellations

In the first two weeks of last month, the airline suffered 91 flight cancellations, of which 68 flights or 74 percent were due to pilot shortage, its internal memo showed.

Kenya Airways said it will be forced to cancel more flights in the weeks ahead due to the shortages as it faces opposition from pilots union to hire 20 fliers on contract.

The national carrier had earlier in the year announced a plan to double its fleet over the next five years.

KQ is working on a process that will lead to its nationalisation, eyeing future success. Lawmakers voted to re-nationalise it in July.

Finally we would be seeing the "DISGRACE IF AFRICA" come to an end....3 to 0 loading grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:36am On Sep 21, 2019
68816419:
Kenya Airways To Sell Seven Planes, And Lease Them Back

National carrier Kenya Airways (KQ) is set to sell seven planes and one engine in a bid to reduce its fleet as part of recovery plans.

Among the planes to be sold include six Boeing 787-8 Dreamliners, one Boeing B777-300 and a spare GE engine.

The carrier will lease back the planes after selling them according to contract documents between KQ and UK-based Air Partner.

“Kenya Airways is conducting a series of sale and lease-back transactions covering six B787-8, B777-300 and GEnx spare engine. KQ has requested Air Partner to conduct a desktop review addressing a series of questions around these sale and leaseback transactions,” read part of the contract between KQ and Air Partner.

Read: Plans To Nationalise KQ Almost Through As MPs Adopt Report

By the end of 2018, KQ had a fleet of 41 planes comprising of Bombardier, Embraer and Boeing planes. In 2015, KQ had 52 planes and has now been dwarfed by its competitor Ethiopian Airline which has over 100 planes.

The reduction of the fleet has largely been attributed to mass exodus of pilots and engineers who have left the carrier for greener pastures, leaving KQ grappling with shortage that has led to mass cancellation of flights.

For instance, in the first two weeks of August, KQ cancelled 91 flights with 68 happening due to shortage of pilots.

According to the 2019 on time performance, 182 flights were cancelled this year occasioned by shortage of staffers with pilots and other crew failing to turn up for work. Out of 25,035 successful departures this year, 2,814 were delayed by more than an hour while only 22,426 (60 percent) were on time.

Read: KQ To Pay UK Firm Ksh25 Million To Investigate Collision Of Two Planes

An internal memo shows that the cancelled flights cost the ailing airline at least Ksh118 million in the last seven months of 2019, which was used in accommodation costs for affected passengers.

“During flight delayed or cancelled, Kenya Airways is expected to provide essential services such as accommodation, meals, ground transportation as the situation requires. With an increasing number of these incidents the costs of hotel accommodation and meals have been above budget by 250 percent,” read the confidential internal memo as quoted by Nation.

19,345 passengers were provided with accommodation in the first seven months of 2019, sinking KQ to more losses.

The sale comes eight years after the carrier announced plans to buy nine Dreamliners in 2011, with the first one having been delivered in 2014. A new Dreamliner is estimated to cost at least Ksh21.49 billion while a new GE engine is estimated to cost over Ksh1 billion.


Another great news...very soon the entire continent will rip this disgrace off our face

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:37am On Sep 21, 2019
Kazikazi:
It is strange! Very strange. After decades of running a business, Kenya airways owns only 3 aircrafts? What is that? Madness.
Why don't they shut a company and start afresh?

The airline was never meant to succeed at the first place

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:38am On Sep 21, 2019
AskiaHarem:


Extremely doubtful there aren't enough Euros or Indians there to exceed the Native Nigerian millionaire not to talk of billionaire league. Who ever wrote that fake news article in your paper needs to be flagged along with editor and publisher. grin

Silly Kenya reporters

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 11:38am On Sep 21, 2019
rvp2018:
Not seen indigenous people even down south like the Khoisan before
That case of Khoisan is somehow better than pokotians of Kenya. I never saw a Khoisan with all his primitivity using a gumboot as a tumbler

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:38am On Sep 21, 2019
Acadavah:


The Tz railway will be electrified that means we will not spend a lot amount of foreign currency to import diesel and the running cost will be low compared to diesel train.

Great news coming from TZ...go TZ go

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:40am On Sep 21, 2019
gallivant:


Funny, I still don't see any futuristic trains!

Just congratulate them and move on. Not all countries are destined to be equals, one must always surpass one and that country is TANZANIA

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 11:40am On Sep 21, 2019
samorobo:


The airline was never meant to succeed at the first place
But can't they just shut it down?!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:41am On Sep 21, 2019
keuz:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jtj4kXToJng

think i should share this
Wow! How come we don't hear Kenyans and Ghanaians achieving such things as this? Just asking. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:44am On Sep 21, 2019
Kazikazi:
It looks like you are just obsessed with Tanzania. How can we plant maize everywhere? Do u think all of Tz land has the same PH? Do u know 32% of Tanzania is under conservation? What about our Dodoma vineyards? Sisal?cloves,coffee, tea,beans,cashews etc? Do u still talk about maize everywhere?

Your article has holes! No seed type,no little details like spacing etc. Because by giving out those details,we could get the exact amount of maize produced per hectare.

Anyway,I agree, average farmer in Kenya gets 10 bags per acre! Which is about 2 and half tonnes per acre.
You have nearly 5m hectares under maize..Kenya barely 1.5m hectares.Serious maize planting in Kenya is done in former white Highlands.Many Boers moved to Kenya Eldoret in 1900s after Anglo-Boer war when they lost Transvaal.Eldoret is a city started by Boers.I think De Clerk was born in Eldoret.They are still a few boers but majority of farms are now owned by Kenyans.If you know farming youll know Dutch including those Boers are the best farmers worldwide running farms from Brazil,canada, us name it https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessdailyafrica.com/lifestyle/society/Eldoret-the-town-that-South-African-Boers-started-/3405664-1323654-view-asAMP-lvycrnz/index.html

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:47am On Sep 21, 2019
Troy404:
I'm watching a story of Nigerian men getting raped in libya and sold to slavery. Sad but truth


Hypocrite: save your sorry for your brothers in slavery thst risked seeking a better life in Libya dessert only to wind up as slaves...your shiitholes must be horrific



Shocking details of how 5 Kenyans were sold as slaves in Libya




African migrants at a safe house in Bani Walid, Libya on December 12. For migrants who escape torture and starvation at the hands of trackers, the safe house offers them shelter and medical care.

An intelligence report seen exclusively by the Saturday Standard details the sordid journey of five Kenyans from the relative calmness of their homes to the rough and tumble world of the Libyan slave market where, together with thousands of other African immigrants, they were sold to the highest bidder.

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The five, through an elaborate trafficking route set out and charted by one of Libya’s most notorious and feared smuggling groups, the Magafe Network, left Nairobi and embarked on a journey that would change their lives forever. The ended up on the dusty, windy Libyan desert where they were sold for next to nothing, leaving their families in turmoil and concern.

“The Magafe Network lures unsuspecting and naïve youth under the pretext of offering employment and money while others are enticed by the Jihad narrative and the fight for a Muslim caliphate,” the report reads. “Once they successfully have the gullible candidates, they link them up with the Kenyan associates of the Magafe Syndicate based in Eastleigh who would later transport them through their various routes to Libya.”

The five, excited by the promise of thrill, monetary gains, a life of freedom and relative abandon as members of terror group ISIS, left Nairobi through one of the most common and most profitable trafficking routes for recruiters.

With the allure of a renegade life beckoning, they left Nairobi and headed to Busia by road. They then crossed over to Uganda and made their way to Kampala before snaking into Juba in war-torn South Sudan. Their next destination was Khartoum before eventually making it to Libya.

However, the promises of the life they envisioned was not to come. The harsh Libyan climate and an arduous training regime by the terror group saw them lose favour in the eyes of their would-be employers.

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“They were found to be no longer useful to the terror group and eventually sold off in the slave markets,” the intelligence report says. “It is believed that the fallout was not only as result of the Kenyans not being able to easily adapt to the harsh weather conditions but also from the fact that some of them wanted out.”

Once one joins the groups, they cannot leave voluntarily.

The Libyan slave markets have been described as some sort of vortex, where time moves backwards to the days of slavery when grown men and women were hawked to the highest bidders.

Forced to pay a ransom

Each year, tens of thousands of people pour across Libya’s borders, fleeing conflict in the rest of the continent or trying to outrun poverty; nursing dreams of a better life in different corners of Europe.

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Many get to Libya with nothing other than a little money to pay for a ride on a crowded and overloaded boat to the shores of Europe. Some make it, many don’t and many more are gobbled up by a sea with little sympathy to their ambitions.

However, a recent clampdown by the Libyan coastguard following pressure from European states such as Italy and Greece, has meant that fewer boats make it out to sea, leaving behind boatloads of hungry, poor and homeless would-be immigrants at the mercy of treacherous smugglers-turned-slave- dealers.

Unlike the five Kenyans who didn’t make it out of the market and have been sold to unknown buyers, Elizabeth Akinyi made it out and is now back home, albeit with the scars, emotional and physical, that would always remind her of the ordeals.

At 29, she left her home in Kisumu in search of greener pastures in neighbouring South Sudan. However, after the world’s youngest state collapsed into a civil war, she took up an offer from an Egyptian acquaintance she had met in Juba. The deal on the table was for Elizabeth to get to Cairo and work as a house help.

She was taken to her host family and was told not to be inquisitive.

“I got scared when I heard that several other girls had been mistreated and died, so the lady’s last born girl advised me to be submissive if I had to survive. It was the best I could do since I had no access to the outside world via any form of communication,” she said.

One day, her little understanding of Arabic enabled her to grasp the gist of a discussion between her boss and a third party.

“The clients were probably inquiring about my general health, and I heard my boss say she would feed me well for another few months so that I could fetch ‘good money’,” Elizabeth said.

The going price for a slave in the markets is anything between Sh40,000 and Sh50,000. Sometimes, reports say, those bought can provide labour for whole neighbourhoods with little or no food. When they are weak, they are moved on to another buyer at a cheaper price or left to die.

Many, like Elizabeth will remain haunted for their lifetimes. Some of those who manage to escape are forced to pay a ransom to be released. A ransom that often does not guarantee them safe passage back home.

Men are forced to leave their wives, and mothers to bury their new-born children. Rights groups say captors are more violent towards darker-skinned migrants.

Reports from International Organisation for Migration as well as several UN agencies say that pregnant women and young, energetic men fetched the best of prices in the slave markets.

The report of the five Kenyans confirms allegations of Kenyans being sold in Libya that were made made in August this year by a different group of three Kenyan girls who were rescued from the streets in Cairo after escaping from their captors in Libya.

Firthoza Ali Ahmed, Aisha Mafudh Ashur and Tawfiqa Dahir Adan had been smuggled out of Nairobi through the same route as the five men.

The three girls were highly malnourished and had gone through continuous sexual and physical abuse from the militants.

They were lucky to get out unlike many other Kenyans in ISIS who are now being auctioned the in slave trade.

In March 2017, two Kenyan fugitive doctors were killed in a US airstrike in Libya.

Farah Dagane Hassan, 26, and Hish Ahmed Ali, 25 formerly of Kitale District hospital had fled the country to join ISIS and had been treating the militants until they were killed in an offensive against the Islamic State.

Despite the global condemnation of the ongoing slave trade in Libya, it has not ended.

Many countries have sought interventions to bring to an end to the migration of Africans to Europe through Libya as thousands of immigrants die in the ocean when overloaded boats capsize on the way to

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