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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:04pm On Sep 29, 2019
Chukwueze is a fighter. Shows you haven't followed the lad at all. Did you see him against Barca??

And Man City didn't dribble iwobi. They only kept passing the ball around every Everton player. Man City are the best team in England when it comes to keeping the ball moving at high intensity. Only Liverpool can rival that. So you expect Iwobi to do the job of 10 other players? Iwobi did his bit and was subbed out so that Everton could bring in another centre forward in Kean to push for an equaliser but as we saw it didn't work out as Man City killed the game off.


Taliban:
For the Brazil game, in my opnion, only fighters and battlers on our team should start the game. It's just like playing Man City, you have to be ready to fight for every ball and hit them on the counter when u yu have a chance. So for me, I won't start Chukwueze nor Iwobi (they can both come in as subs). I would rather we have Etebo, Ndidi and Aribo in the middle, then Moses Simon, Kalu and Osimhen in the attack. I know that's blasphemous to most here.
Man City just dey dribble Iwobi yesterday like he was a training cone.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 12:06pm On Sep 29, 2019
Taliban:
For the Brazil game, in my opnion, only fighters and battlers on our team should start the game. It's just like playing Man City, you have to be ready to fight for every ball and hit them on the counter when u yu have a chance. So for me, I won't start Chukwueze nor Iwobi (they can both come in as subs). I would rather we have Etebo, Ndidi and Aribo in the middle, then Moses Simon, Kalu and Osimhen in the attack. I know that's blasphemous to most here.
Man City just dey dribble Iwobi yesterday like he was a training cone.

We have no replacement for Iwobi in Nigeria. Unless you are setting up to just defend, Iwobi has to start. Etebo is not that good as a 10.

And dropping chukwueze?? we will lose something in attack for sure.

We can not win without explosive counters. Chukwueze and Iwobi are key to that.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:06pm On Sep 29, 2019
What would u say about the Argentina friendly then? I won’t be surprised if we we went back to our old ways. Lol.
tbaba1234:
Two key differences in the Ukraine attacking performance and the nations cup.

1. Movement : There was constant movement in our transition play. Iwobi, Osimhen, Kalu and Samu were constantly moving. In the nations cup, Ighalo stays static and Musa hugs his wing.So that dynamism was lacking going forward.

2. The late run into the box from midfield: Aribo got into the box several times. The first goal against Ukraine would not have scored at the nations cup because there were usually less bodies in the box when we are attacking. Ighalo looked isolated in the box sometimes.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 12:10pm On Sep 29, 2019
Joebie:
What would u say about the Argentina friendly then? I won’t be surprised if we we went back to our old ways. Lol.

I think Rohr will start Etebo Ndidi and Iwobi. But i will prefer Ndidi, Aribo and Iwobi. It will affect our game but hopefully we can still transition well.

Counters are key for this game

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 12:25pm On Sep 29, 2019
tbaba1234:


This is not true. Ndidi has had some really good games. The one that comes to mind is the friendly against Argentina. Monster in that game.

I can never play Etebo as an only DM if Ndidi is available. Ndidi protects the defense better. Simple. The stats back that.

The thing with DM is that it is easy to ignore what they do because it is not fancy.

Meanwhile,whenever we want to refer a game as an excuse or a stat,please let's stop making reference to DT argies friendly... Any small thing against Argentina, same thing u guys did to nacho prowess in free kick,always citing dt match

Match wey don almost reach 2years now, grin grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 12:39pm On Sep 29, 2019
Taliban:
For the Brazil game, in my opnion, only fighters and battlers on our team should start the game. It's just like playing Man City, you have to be ready to fight for every ball and hit them on the counter when u yu have a chance. So for me, I won't start Chukwueze nor Iwobi (they can both come in as subs). I would rather we have Etebo, Ndidi and Aribo in the middle, then Moses Simon, Kalu and Osimhen in the attack. I know that's blasphemous to most here.
Man City just dey dribble Iwobi yesterday like he was a training cone.
Can Simon handle those Brazilian fullbacks?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 12:39pm On Sep 29, 2019
tbaba1234:


This is not true. Ndidi has had some really good games. The one that comes to mind is the friendly against Argentina. Monster in that game.

I can never play Etebo as an only DM if Ndidi is available. Ndidi protects the defense better. Simple. The stats back that.

The thing with DM is that it is easy to ignore what they do because it is not fancy.
sorry bro I will have to disagree with you the Wilfred I usually see in the super Eagles does not stand out like he does for Leicester City for us he usually performs above-average I'm yet to see him have a man-of-the-match performance for us he definitely has it in him but I think quality competition will drive him to that level of performance for the national team

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 12:50pm On Sep 29, 2019
who can relate?

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 12:50pm On Sep 29, 2019
chrisooblog:
sorry bro I will have to disagree with you the Wilfred I usually see in the super Eagles does not stand out like he does for Leicester City for us he usually performs above-average I'm yet to see him have a man-of-the-match performance for us he definitely has it in him but I think quality competition will drive him to that level of performance for the national team


I would even disagree with u...ndidi only posted above average in d game against Guinea, every oda games d guy has played for us IMO is average or below average compared to what we use to c him play in Leicester wink
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 12:55pm On Sep 29, 2019
balorx:
let's get the fact right...no one can do what ndidi does for now ...the guy is irreplaceable ...if we are to play attacking football I prefer aribo starting over etebo and etebo and azeez as a backup to ndidi....zuby can get an invite if etebo is injured
let's see what esiti can do his friendly before we say anything
Where are you getting this idea that Zuby and Etebo are similar?? I haven't watched Zuby that much(mostly at the Olympics and a few games at Turkey) but he is very different to Etebo. If anything, he is an alternative to Ndidi.
You guys need to stop looking at Etebo as a defensive player. He is an attacking player whose versatility is hampering him.
You don't know how annoying it feels when I see Rohr playing him as the deepest midfielder.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 1:06pm On Sep 29, 2019
andrew444:
Una brother
As soon as naija jersey touch him skin, him go turn pipe.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 1:13pm On Sep 29, 2019
chrisooblog:
sorry bro I will have to disagree with you the Wilfred I usually see in the super Eagles does not stand out like he does for Leicester City for us he usually performs above-average I'm yet to see him have a man-of-the-match performance for us he definitely has it in him but I think quality competition will drive him to that level of performance for the national team
the afcon match against guinea! u see we Nigerians don't analyse the position unless they make a mistake .... ndidi thrives as the only dm but rohr plays etebo along with him in the super eagles
who is this most consistent super eagles player?

if not for the premier league that analyse the dm position we wouldn't take note of the guy
if chukwueze scores or iwobi assist or oshimen scores , how many of you analyses ndidi
most times here we see stats of strikers and attacking midfielders...only time ndidi comes up maybe when he scores

mind you Ndidi>>>>>>>>>partey

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:23pm On Sep 29, 2019
William Troost Ekong starts for Udinese against Bologna in the Serie A.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:30pm On Sep 29, 2019
Franklin Sasere joins FC Lugano in Switzerland from Sunshine Stars of Akure.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 1:46pm On Sep 29, 2019
tbaba1234:
Two key differences in the Ukraine attacking performance and the nations cup.

1. Movement : There was constant movement in our transition play. Iwobi, Osimhen, Kalu and Samu were constantly moving. In the nations cup, Ighalo stays static and Musa hugs his wing.So that dynamism was lacking going forward.

2. The late run into the box from midfield: Aribo got into the box several times. The first goal against Ukraine would not have scored at the nations cup because there were usually less bodies in the box when we are attacking. Ighalo looked isolated in the box sometimes.

A very key element to that goal was Osimhen made a run to the near post thereby dragging 2 defenders to him and making space for Aribo

Ighalo would have stood at the center of the box making the defenders comfortable and any late run into the box would be clattering into him

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 1:50pm On Sep 29, 2019
TheSuperNerd:
Chukwueze is a fighter. Shows you haven't followed the lad at all. Did you see him against Barca??

And Man City didn't dribble iwobi. They only kept passing the ball around every Everton player. Man City are the best team in England when it comes to keeping the ball moving at high intensity. Only Liverpool can rival that. So you expect Iwobi to do the job of 10 other players? Iwobi did his bit and was subbed out so that Everton could bring in another centre forward in Kean to push for an equaliser but as we saw it didn't work out as Man City killed the game off.



Iwobi looked lost against Man city

Chasing the ball for 90 minutes is not his forte

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 1:52pm On Sep 29, 2019
Earthquake1:


A very key element to that goal was Osimhen made a run to the near post thereby dragging 2 defenders to him and making space for Aribo

Ighalo would have stood at the center of the box making the defenders comfortable and any late run into the box would be clattering into him


Ighalo is gone for good,na osimhen dey dere now..let him make history for himself, same as Iggy did as d highest goal scorer in afcon 2019 wink
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zoboizee: 2:08pm On Sep 29, 2019
With Gernot Rohr, Nigeria's chance against Brazil is almost zero. You can't park the bus & play on the counter attack against Brazil especially when the space between your two center backs are so obvious that attackers keep running behind them( as we had it against Ukraine) every now and them. The old Rohr we know will probably keep faith with a defence of Awaziem, Ekong, Omeruo & Collins and a midfield of Ndidi, Etebo & Iwobi. The frontline will be Chukwueze, Osimhen & Kalu. Barring injury to any player.

edi287:

Where are you getting this idea that Zuby and Etebo are similar?? I haven't watched Zuby that much(mostly at the Olympics and a few games at Turkey) but he is very different to Etebo. If anything, he is an alternative to Ndidi.

You guys need to stop looking at Etebo as a defensive player. He is an attacking player whose versatility is hampering him.
You don't know how annoying it feels when I see Rohr playing him as the deepest midfielder.
Brother, i share your feeling. It irritate me watching Etebo play defensive midfield. I watched him at Warri Wolves, U23 Afcon, the Olympics & Feirense as an attacking player. The difference is so clear.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:09pm On Sep 29, 2019
I guess he also looked lost when he created that goal Everton scored.


Earthquake1:


Iwobi looked lost against Man city

Chasing the ball for 90 minutes is not his forte

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by iSlayer: 2:17pm On Sep 29, 2019
tbaba1234:
Two key differences in the Ukraine attacking performance and the nations cup.

1. Movement : There was constant movement in our transition play. Iwobi, Osimhen, Kalu and Samu were constantly moving. In the nations cup, Ighalo stays static and Musa hugs his wing.So that dynamism was lacking going forward.

2. The late run into the box from midfield: Aribo got into the box several times. The first goal against Ukraine would not have scored at the nations cup because there were usually less bodies in the box when we are attacking. Ighalo looked isolated in the box sometimes.


Nothing more to add. A lot of us are yet to understand "Fluidity" and "Transitioning". Yet when the team plays like community grammar school they weep and gnash their teeth and throw tantrums.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:18pm On Sep 29, 2019
Joebie:
Aribo surprised Rohr.. But that only happened because of Ndidi's absence. Aribo won't have started.


For me that's the key issue.

Unless players are given opportunity how will we know that they are better or as good as the players already selected.

Another issue is that you may indeed be doing pretty good in your local club and league it may not necessarily transfer with same impact to the national team the SE.

Considering how good Vardy is with his blistering pace albeit very limited technical ability as well as skill. He has not been able to have the same impact in the 3 Lions.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 2:21pm On Sep 29, 2019
Ok
zoboizee:
With Gernot Rohr, Nigeria's chance against Brazil is almost zero. You can't park the bus & play on the counter attack against Brazil especially when the space between your two center backs are so obvious that attackers keep running behind them( as we had it against Ukraine) every now and them. The old Rohr we know will probably keep faith with a defence of Awaziem, Ekong, Omeruo & Collins and a midfield of Ndidi, Etebo & Iwobi. The frontline will be Chukwueze, Osimhen & Kalu. Barring injury to any player.


Brother, i share your feeling. It irritate me watching Etebo play defensive midfield. I watched him at Warri Wolves, U23 Afcon, the Olympics & Feirense as an attacking player. The difference is so clear.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 2:22pm On Sep 29, 2019
How many matches did vardy start for england?
komekn:


For me that's the key issue.

Unless players are given opportunity how will we know that they are better or as good as the players already selected.

Another issue is that you may indeed be doing pretty good in your local club and league it may not necessarily transfer with same impact to the national team the SE.

Considering how good Vardy is with his blistering pace albeit very limited technical ability as well as skill. He has not been able to have the same impact in the 3 Lions.



Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:25pm On Sep 29, 2019
zoboizee:
With Gernot Rohr, Nigeria's chance against Brazil is almost zero. You can't park the bus & play on the counter attack against Brazil especially when the space between your two center backs are so obvious that attackers keep running behind them( as we had it against Ukraine) every now and them. The old Rohr we know will probably keep faith with a defence of Awaziem, Ekong, Omeruo & Collins and a midfield of Ndidi, Etebo & Iwobi. The frontline will be Chukwueze, Osimhen & Kalu. Barring injury to any player.


Brother, i share your feeling. It irritate me watching Etebo play defensive midfield. I watched him at Warri Wolves, U23 Afcon, the Olympics & Feirense as an attacking player. The difference is so clear.

Agreed without reservation.

That's why it imperative that players take a step.back before joining a club and league. Then ask themselves a number of questions will I fit in with the football philosophy and strategy in this club. What happens if the Managers leaves❓ Is my style suited to this league etc, etc.

That is why it's possible to flop in one league and club than do much better in another. Slimani was essentially dead at Leicester has had a series of loan moves without impact. But he is doing good now at Monaco.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 2:26pm On Sep 29, 2019
TheSuperNerd:
I guess he also looked lost when he created that goal Everton scored.



He looked lost in the second half
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:31pm On Sep 29, 2019
charlesemeka85:
How many matches did vardy start for england?

He played about 27 games not sure how many he started.

Opportunity gives you the ability to make a claim for more permanent selection. When you have positive impact then inevitably you claim position.

The starts are not that important. How many games starts or substitutions you have dint really matter it's what you do with them.

How many games did Yobo, Chukwueze have before claiming position, etc
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 2:33pm On Sep 29, 2019
zoboizee:
With Gernot Rohr, Nigeria's chance against Brazil is almost zero. You can't park the bus & play on the counter attack against Brazil especially when the space between your two center backs are so obvious that attackers keep running behind them( as we had it against Ukraine) every now and them. The old Rohr we know will probably keep faith with a defence of Awaziem, Ekong, Omeruo & Collins and a midfield of Ndidi, Etebo & Iwobi. The frontline will be Chukwueze, Osimhen & Kalu. Barring injury to any player.


Brother, i share your feeling. It irritate me watching Etebo play defensive midfield. I watched him at Warri Wolves, U23 Afcon, the Olympics & Feirense as an attacking player. The difference is so clear.
Rohr is essentially using him the way he should've used Mikel.
Someone needs to speak to him about this.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PROVERBZ(m): 2:40pm On Sep 29, 2019
I have decided to snub germany and play foe nigeria when i come of age

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by timay(m): 2:42pm On Sep 29, 2019
Earthquake1:


A very key element to that goal was Osimhen made a run to the near post thereby dragging 2 defenders to him and making space for Aribo

Ighalo would have stood at the center of the box making the defenders comfortable and any late run into the box would be clattering into him

The difference btw Ighalo and Osimhen is like day and night. Ighalo practically waits in the box for ball to come to his feet, while Osimhen make runs thereby create spaces for someone like Iwobi to pass the ball into for him, he also drops to the middle to help build up play, which is one of the hallmarks of the strikers of this era of football. Gone are the days that a strikers job is to stroll and wait in the opposition half, waiting for wingers or fullbacks to deliver ball to his feet to score.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:43pm On Sep 29, 2019
Earthquake1:


Chris Houghton is a step down from Marco Silva

They are looking for Mourinho, or a foreign manager

I disagree look at Chris Houghton record over the years. He will bring much needed stability to the club without having to break the bank.

Mourinho is only successful when he has a huge amounts of money to spend.

They have had three foreign managers in recent times and they have not been able to exceed David Moyes.

Theu need stability and consistency they are never league contenders. However if they are not careful they can easily end up being Relegation contenders.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 2:47pm On Sep 29, 2019
Earthquake1:


Iwobi looked lost against Man city

Chasing the ball for 90 minutes is not his forte

Exactly my point we would do a lot of ball chasing for sure against Brazil.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 2:49pm On Sep 29, 2019
edi287:

Where are you getting this idea that Zuby and Etebo are similar?? I haven't watched Zuby that much(mostly at the Olympics and a few games at Turkey) but he is very different to Etebo. If anything, he is an alternative to Ndidi.
You guys need to stop looking at Etebo as a defensive player. He is an attacking player whose versatility is hampering him.
You don't know how annoying it feels when I see Rohr playing him as the deepest midfielder.

Spot on !

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