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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 10:45am On Oct 01, 2019 |
It is good to be diversified, have a business or a marketable skill, invest in real estate, Treasury bills, Eurobonds and the stock market. The most important thing is to invest in things that generate residual income, they keep on generating money whether we are there or not, whether we are sick or no more. We also need to consider inflation. A 3 bedroom flat around airport road Lagos was about 60k per annum in 1994, but you will need a minimum of 600k to rent that same apartment in 2019. A time will come when we will not be strong to hustle and struggle for jobs and businesses, when we will not be able to pay rent again, that is why it is important to have a plan B on how to own our modest house, so that we will not saddle our children with the responsibility of paying our rent when we get old and frail. We have a housing deficit of about 18 million housing units in Nigeria, anyhow we see there will always be a demand for decent accommodation for the teeming population of Nigerians. It is very important for something urgent to be done about the overpriced properties in Nigeria. 15 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 10:48am On Oct 01, 2019 |
ahiboilandgas: Having liability is not an issue. Knowing its a liability is d key. Having a car is a liability but some people see it as an asset. Will u now say because its a liability u wont use a car? Liabilities and assets are needed in a man’s life. Knowing the difference and balancing the 2 is one of d keys leading to successful wealth creation. 17 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 10:48am On Oct 01, 2019 |
emmanuelewumi:God bless u sir 2 Likes |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 10:50am On Oct 01, 2019 |
tumababa:some body say owing a modest house to live is a liabities so I help him out with other necessary libilities ...me also buy tokunbo cars and sell for profit as a side hustle too 4 Likes |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 10:51am On Oct 01, 2019 |
If you have the opportunity to be gifted a house by your parents, make sure you save and invest what you would have been paying as rent every year and see the fortune you must have built within 15 to 20 years. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Adiwana: 12:18pm On Oct 01, 2019 |
Barrytone: Me and my Mum were talking about purchasing a 6 bedroom flat earlier this year for around 45M until we sat down and thought Tenant wahala, cost of renovation if we are to get anything tangible as rent, maintenance and most importantly the amount we will be losing over the course of 12 months when compared to T-bills. Found out that for each year rent is collected, we will be losing more than 5M when compared to investing that money in T-bills plus the fact there's no compound interest on a house. Also, in 10yrs time, the house value won't really increase significantly.Found out it wasn't the best form of investment 6 Likes |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Finelinks: 12:56pm On Oct 01, 2019 |
StellarThesis: Lol Bill Gate's house is estimated to be worth 127-154m dollars. That's 46-56 billion naira. Even our own Dangote has a yacht worth 16 billion naira. It's not just about Tbills or answering landlord. There are many advantages of owning your house or business place. Some of these advantages have been named elsewhere especially those from ahiboilandgas. Owning your house or Business place also ensures more stability. A notice to quit could be issued to you at any time coupled with many restrictions in rented apartment especially if the landlord resides there too. Do you know there are apartments that your brother or visitor can't sleep over? or visitors can't come at certain times? There are apartments you can't buy certain properties or install certain gadgets like solar etc. But you can design your own house as it pleases you. You can own and keep pets too. I want a place I can go out and come back by 2 am without queries or pleadings. A place i can go out and remotely open my gates for my visitor even 1000km away. Some have high BP when landlord is around because of his troubles. 80% of people who have lived in their homes and enjoyed the freedom may not want to rent again. Maybe you haven't experienced it. (Just like I used to brag about my rickety manual car until I drove a friend's automatic car). Life is meant to be enjoyed. All human efforts are geared towards increasing happiness or reducing suffering. Life is meaningless. We are only here to be happy. You sound like the type that switches off the ignition in traffic to save fuel. MAY GOD GIVE US MORE MONEY TO AFFORD SOME LUXURY. 16 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ibechris(m): 12:59pm On Oct 01, 2019 |
ahiboilandgas: That fellow is very right cos that house u live in and do maintenance on is economically,a liability! But from a social point of view,u might not see it as that. |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Finelinks: 1:35pm On Oct 01, 2019 |
Barrytone: Oga Barry, the idea of GROWING THE CAPITAL is relative, thus evasive. 50m is a good sum, but it might still need to be grown. It depends on the person involved. Even 1 billion might still need to be grown depending on who is involved because the person involved might desire a house worth 700m. Even when you grow it to 2 billion, you might still say "grow it more... ad infinitum. Mind you, nothing is guaranteed. You might invest the money in business and one single government policy or misadventure will send you to the streets. 1 Like |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Finelinks: 1:43pm On Oct 01, 2019 |
ahiboilandgas: lol abeg oo Even our old parents too, they are liabilities. After all they don't generate money now! lol 3 Likes |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Finelinks: 1:49pm On Oct 01, 2019 |
NL1960: Young people starting a life is relative. So is the house in question. At what point along the continuum do they qualify? At what point do they become ripe to now own a home. Linda Ikeji allegedly bought a house worth 850m in her 30s. Forget. No hard and fast rule. We can as well kill our old sick parents because they are now aged and bring no income. Or like ahiboilandgas says, throw away our wives and kids. They are liabilities. |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Godbpraised: 2:17pm On Oct 01, 2019 |
Finelinks:I want to agree with barry on this, we Nigerians are so possessed with the ownership mentality. if i knew what barry just said 10 years ago, i would be super rich today. The truth remains its good to grow ur money and use the proceeds to build a house or invest in real estate. i do not support jumping into buying a house and then start looking for money to grow ur business. Again what Barry is saying is grow ur money like an apple tree and use the yield to reinvest. it makes sense to invest in both money funds and real estate. But do not start with real estate with the believe that your money would just start growing. Start with T-bills, stock and Eurobond. 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Grupo(m): 2:32pm On Oct 01, 2019 |
Finelinks: Apparently, what you are saying is that if you are a 30-year old man and you just got your first 10m, you will take all that money and build a house in order to answer landlord? Even the Linda you mentioned, do you know how long she waited, even after "blowing" before she bought her house? She had money but was still living in Surulere with her parents until she consolidated her money and decided to then buy a house. 3 Likes |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by NL1960: 2:36pm On Oct 01, 2019 |
Finelinks:Linda Ikeji did not buy her house with her first 850m. She already built a business and had serious reserves before buying that house. This is why i earlier said that you have missed the discussion. A young person see 3m in his account. The next thing he goes to Mowe or Odogunyo in Ikorodu and build a small bungalow because he does not want to pay rent or does not want landlord wahala. Then every morning, he wakes up by 4am to go to work on the Island and gets home every day by around 11pm. Then weekend, he crosses his legs in his sparsely furnished sitting room and says 'iam now a landlord'. Meanwhile, he is far removed from activities in town as he finds it too stressful to leave that interior. Is that the kind of advise you will give a young person if he/she comes to you for advise?. I do not have a problem with a young person having 50m and he uses 30m to buy or build his personal house. My TBs can conviniently build me a house in the outskirts of Lagos but why will i do that and then be leaving home by 5-5.30am everyday and get home by around 11pm whereas the interest from the TB can get me a decent 3 bedroom apartment that enables me to leave home by 7:30am to work and get home between 6:30-7pm everyday?. Look at your Linda Ikeji example. Where did she buy her house?. Banana island. When she had 5m, why do you think she did not rush to Mowe or Odogunyo to build a house?. 18 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by dipoolowoo: 2:43pm On Oct 01, 2019 |
One-Year T-Bills Yields Fall to 14.96% from 15.10% https://businesspost.ng/2019/10/01/one-year-t-bills-yields-fall-to-14-96-from-15-10/ |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Finelinks: 3:06pm On Oct 01, 2019 |
Grupo: Facts are stated to prove a particular thing and not to prove all things. Linda was mentioned to prove or buttress the point that building a home is not unwise. It's not about tbills tbills. Don't engage in ostrich evasions. BLOWING IS RELATIVE OGA, BY YOUR ANALOGY, Linda should have even invested the 850m in tbills and used the proceeds to rent a choice place and still have change left. Or don't you know how much she is losing? True yield of 850m is averagely upto 145m per annum. She should have used 100m to rent the best house and keep the difference. Or doesn't she need extra money? Even Dangote should have invested the 16bn he used in buying a Yacht in Tbills.. That would have given him circa 2.8 billion per annum. 6 Likes |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Finelinks: 3:14pm On Oct 01, 2019 |
NL1960: Facts are stated to prove a particular thing and not to prove all things. Linda was mentioned to prove or buttress the point that building a home is not always unwise. It's not about tbills tbills. Don't engage in ostrich evasions. GOING BY YOUR ANALOGY, Linda should have even invested the 850m in tbills and used the proceeds to rent a choice place and still have change left. Or don't you know how much she is losing? True yield of 850m is averagely upto 145m per annum. She should have used 100m to rent the best house and keep the difference. Or doesn't she need extra money? AS PER THE 5M blah blah blah, everyone does not live or work in Island. It's not a desideratum. 3 Likes |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by NL1960: 4:50pm On Oct 01, 2019 |
Finelinks:This why i said you are missing the point of discussion. Nobody here arguing against using your first capital or using your 'tasere' money to build a personal house is saying it is all about TBs. The point being made here is that when you have low funds and you as a young person needs to choose building a personal house and investing in TBs, you should choose TBs in order to grow the funds in a less risky manner. If you cannot understand this simple flow and logic of this discussion then it means you are just arguing blindly. You have moved from Bill Gates to Linda Ikeji and now to Dangote. You keep mentioning people that have have made it through growing of their money. Did Linda Ikeji just woke up one morning and saw 850m to buy the house or did Dangote just woke up one morning and bought a Yatch?. They all grew their money over time. There are people who grew their money through business, TBs, Bonds, stocks. Iam yet to see a person who grew his/her funds through the building of his/her personal house with initial capital or with 'tasere' money.. If you know of such a person, let me know. 18 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DigitalMallam: 4:52pm On Oct 01, 2019 |
Finelinks: There is no one size fits all when it come to investment, and I believe no one want to win this argument. Be it building for investment, TBill or what have you. Have a plan and follow it diligently. Each has its pros and con. I started building my first house in my home town a yr after my youth service and it took me 5 whopping years to complete, in the process I learnt some lessons but no regret, it made me wiser and thought me some lessons as well. Later on in life when I moved to Lagos and met an entirely different terrain. I could recall going on bended knee with my money at hand but my then landlady won't allow me to renew my rent. Never knew that was the standing rule in that house. You can't possibly stay more than 2yrs even if you work in CBN. Moving from one house or area has its effect on family, children's education etc. I was lucky to have heard of Tbill early in life. Luckily a better house directly opp her's was put up for sale, what did I do, I liquidated my entire Tbill investment and bought the house. It came at a cost, but I had to prove something to the woman. The fulfilment that comes with owning your own house can't be quantified, It was like a rebirth and I can plan better not to mention the huge respect you gain from the society. So let every one chart a course he/she believe is best and walk the talk. 7 Likes |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by NL1960: 4:55pm On Oct 01, 2019 |
Finelinks:Where in Lagos can 5m build you a decent personal house that is close to the major business districts?. 2 Likes |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by NL1960: 5:03pm On Oct 01, 2019 |
DigitalMallam: You had already consistently built up your funds through TBs before you bought the house and not that you just used your initial capital to purchase the house. Moreover, having already built a house over a 5 year period, you already had some life experiences. 3 Likes |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 5:06pm On Oct 01, 2019 |
Sold!!! |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by brandable: 5:11pm On Oct 01, 2019 |
I can categorically say that this thread and the stockmarket thread https://www.nairaland.com/1131485/nigerian-stock-exchange-market-pick are the two best thread in nairaland. Have learnt a lot from you all contribution. God bless you all and happy independence. 3 Likes |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Finelinks: 5:11pm On Oct 01, 2019 |
DigitalMallam: NL1960 grupo ahiboilandgas (see what you have beem saying. Another has confirmed it. |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Godbpraised: 5:14pm On Oct 01, 2019 |
NL1960:Guys please lets argue our point without insulting ourselves. please. 1 Like |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Grupo(m): 5:14pm On Oct 01, 2019 |
Finelinks: Stop mentioning me. |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Godbpraised: 5:22pm On Oct 01, 2019 |
DigitalMallam:Trust me in some ways renting is cheaper, it comes with its pros and cons. |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 5:26pm On Oct 01, 2019 |
Finelinks:me know this na since 1999 ,I bought my first land at 23 years 720k built in 2004 100 by 100 , I didn't have enough money the next was up for sale for 800k didn't have money but I was sure it will blow ....it was sold for 15 m in 2016 it pain me , I also build a house on my own in 2006 ...my Neigbour are house of rep members ,commissioner ,above average people ....i never regret that move my dad praised me my bq was built for 3m in 2006 is now on rent for 500k , I made the 3 m back since .....it not for all areas sha and must not be Lagos 3 Likes |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by kryptem: 6:24pm On Oct 01, 2019 |
Whatever rocks your boat, ride it. The points have been made and from the discussion so far, I believe many had already decided which path to tray. I must say that I have personally learnt greatly and have chosen my path already too. Thank you guys for sharing your experiences and knowledge. The wisdom here is enormous!!! 12 Likes |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Finelinks: 7:02pm On Oct 01, 2019 |
NL1960: Suffering from DK effect? I asked you a simple question. Why did linda buy a house? Why didn't she invest it in Tbills to get 145m per annum, then use 100m to rent choice house and keep 45m? Or she didn't need extra money? You were busy citing names i used in context, out of context. Is that how you read? You cherry pick? Gosh! 2 Likes |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Finelinks: 7:06pm On Oct 01, 2019 |
ahiboilandgas:Thanks jare. They are just busy shouting tbills tbills. One the other day said he doesn't entertain visitors and doesn't visit too because of tbills. He doesn't go out too. Nothing at all. He sees everything as liability. Grim. 4 Likes |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by NL1960: 7:10pm On Oct 01, 2019 |
Finelinks: Go back and read his post. He did not use his first capital to buy the house. He bought from proceeds of built upTBs. You are still missing it or have refused to understand. Nobody is saying you should not buy a house but do not use your first capital to do it as young person. Na wa for comprehension o. Shuooo. 8 Likes 2 Shares |
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