Atigba:


Benin is Ille Ibinu corrupted by the Portugueses to be Benin.

Edo state was named after Ado/Eweka by the Oba Erediawa.

Eweka is Owomika.

You're trying too hard to distract the untrained reader to other irrelevant things that I did not challenge you on.

Eweka never had any name as "Ado".

"Ado" is the name of Benin-city. Let me know if you need proof.

"Edo" evolved from Mr Idu's name many centuries ago.

TAO11:


You're trying too hard to distract the untrained reader to other irrelevant things that I did not challenge you on.

Eweka never had any name as "Ado".

"Ado" is the name of Benin-city in case you need proof.

"Edo" evolved from Mr Idu's name many centuries ago.

Edo is a new name used when they created delta State from bendel state.
Ado is the name of the Eweka the first.

Benin is Ille Ibinu, meaning vexation.

Pa Idu is the name of our ancestor, no body ever bear Ado in our land or Edo until Yoruba people arrived in our land in 1170AD.

Check all the names of Ogisos our ruler I put there if there is anything Edo or Ado.

I dont even know the meaning of Edo or Ado. We dont bear that name.

Good night need to sleep

Atigba:

Edo is a new name used when they created delta State from bendel state.
Ado is the name of the Eweka the first.

Benin is Ille Ibinu, meaning vexation.

Pa Idu is the name of our ancestor, no body ever bear Ado in our land or Edo until Yoruba people arrived in our land in 1170AD.

Check all the names of Ogisos our ruler I put there if there is anything Edo or Ado.

I dont even know the meaning of Edo or Ado. We dont bear that name.

Good night need to sleep

Creation of a State called Edo State is not what we're discussing now.

The word "Edo" predates Edo State by centuries. C'mon! Shouldn't you know this already?

Just as the name "Lagos" predates Lagos State; as the name "Oyo" predates Oyo State; as the name "Osun" predates Osun State; etc.

The word "Edo" (which describes the people as a group) evolved from the name of Mr. Idu ---- the progenitor of the group who (according to your Iso-Norho tradition) hails from Ile-Ife.

"Ado", on the other hand, is the earliest name of the region known today as Benin-City --- even before Oranmiyan went there.
(If you need proof for this, then you're welcome)

Nowhere did I mention that "Ado" or "Edo" is the name of somebody. It is you who claim that.

And it is you who are trying to disprove your own straw man claim --- go ahead boy. Lol.

TAO11:


Creation of a State called Edo State is not what we're discussing now.

The word "Edo" predates Edo State by centuries. C'mon! Shouldn't you know this already?

Just as the name "Lagos" predates Lagos State; as the name "Oyo" predates Oyo State; as the name "Osun" predates Osun State; etc.

The word "Edo" (which describes the people as a group) evolved from the name of Mr. Idu ---- the progenitor of the group who (according to your Iso-Norho tradition) hails from Ile-Ife.

"Ado", on the other hand, is the earliest name of the region known today as Benin-City --- even before Oranmiyan went there.
(If you need proof for this, then you're welcome)

Nowhere did I mention that "Ado" or "Edo" is the name of somebody. It is you who claim that.

And it is you who are trying to disprove your own straw man claim --- go ahead boy. Lol.

There is nothing called Edo in our land until recently.

IDU has nothing to do with Ille ife

Ekerledahen founded Ille Ife .....


Ado is the name of Eweka the first.

 Iso-Norho tradition there is nothing like that, most of the Edo people celebrate Ekerledahan who founded yoruba people and rule Ille Ife

Atigba:


There is nothing called Edo in our land until recently.

IDU has nothing to do with Ille ife

Ekerledahen founded Ille Ife .....


Ado is the name of Eweka the first.

1. The word "Edo" is evolved many many centuries ago from the name of your progenitor --- Mr Idu.

2.Your own tradition called "Iso Norho" claims that your progenitor, Mr Idu hails from Ile-Ife.

So, channel your frustration to the appropriate quarters.

3. You already claimed in one of your replies to me (on a separate thread) that there is no human being called Ekaladerhan in your history.

You noted that Ogiso Awodo a.k.a. Owodo died childless. So, who are you trying to deceive now? Yourself obviously.

4. Eweka1 has no name as Ado. Rather, "Ado" is the earliest name of today's Benin-City even before Oranmiyan's arrival.

TAO11:


1. The word "Edo" is evolved many many centuries ago from the name of your progenitor --- Mr Idu.

2.Your own tradition called "Iso Norho" claims that your progenitor, Mr Idu hails from Ile-Ife.

So, channel your frustration to the appropriate quarters.

3. You already claimed in one of your replies to me (on a separate thread) that there is no human being called Ekaladerhan in your history.

You noted that Ogiso Awodo a.k.a. Owodo died childless. So, who are you trying to deceive now? Yourself obviously.

4. Eweka1 has no name as Ado. Rather, "Ado" is the earliest name of today's Benin-City even before Oranmiyan's arrival.

Since you refused Ekerladahan found yoruba people which is believed by Edo people why do you think anyone should accept your methodology?

Idu name never evolved, names dont evolve. Idu mean greatness in our language Edo has no meaning. Some yoruba people in our land are trying to force the word in our vernacular.

The same way they corrupt Osasuyi to Obasuyi, Osayangbo to Obayangbon. They are fraud Oba has no meaning in our language. Kings are called Ogie/Ojie in our land.

Ado is the name of Eweka the first, we are Igodomigodo/Idu. Ado has no meaning in my language. Non of our people ever bear the name Ado.

You can see the list of Ogisos up there

Our names evolve thus

The former name of Benin-City was Igodomigodo (c.45 BC), then Ílẹ̀-Ìbínú (c.1190 AD), then Ubinu (1220 AD), then Benin (1485 AD). Nothing like Ado may be you are living in another planet

Atigba:


Since you refused Ekerladahan found yoruba people which is believed by Edo people why do you think anyone should accept your methodology?

Idu name never evolved, names dont evolve. Idu mean greatness in our language Edo has no meaning. Some yoruba people in our land are trying to force the word in our vernacular.

The same way they corrupt Osasuyi to Obasuyi, Osayangbo to Obayangbon. They are fraud Oba has no meaning in our language. Kings are called Ogie/Ojie in our land.

Ado is the name of Eweka the first, we are Igodomigodo/Idu. Ado has no meaning in my language. Non of our people ever bear the name Ado.

You can see the list of Ogisos up there

1. Shut up you janus-faced liar. I didnt even bother engaging you here on you Ekalderhan claim above.

All I did was to simply point out your hypocrisy by showing that you once stated started clearly that:

There was never any Ekaladerhan in your history, and that the Ekaladerhan claim was fraudulent.

Listen to yourself in the attachment below.

Having said that, the claim that Mr. Idu hails from Ile-Ife is not my claim. Rather, it is your own tradition entitled "Iso Norho" which says so.

Like I said earlier, channel your frustration accordingly.


2. Did you just say names don't evolve? Wow! You must have convinced yourself to be the Linguist General of Igodomigodo Land.

Maybe you should explain how the name "Benin" came about since names don't evolve. Lol

Again, "Edo" evolved many many centuries ago from the name of Mr Idu --- your progenitor who is said (by your own Iso Norho tradition) to have hailed from Ile-Ife.

3. I know the word "Oba" (for "king" ) is not originally found in your lexicon. But that's not the bone of contention here.

Can you now focus and stop the distraction.


4. Eweka has no name as "Ado". In fact, "Ado" is the earliest name of Benin-city --- a section of Igodomigodo. (If you need proof for this it shall be provided).

There is no point asking me to check any list of your Ogisos (a.k.a. Sky-Kings) because no one (except you yourself) claimed that "Ado" is originally the name of a person.


Your last modified additions admitted that names do evolve.

But you had earlier said that names don't evolve

Don't you truly need sleep like you earlier said?

Moreover, contrary to what you wrote up there, Igodomigodo was not the former name of Benin-City.

Benin-City is a smaller section in Igodomigodo.

And prior to the names Benin-City, or Ibini, or Ubinu --- named by Oranmiyan; this section of Igodomigido ruled by Oranmiyan is called Ado.

Ado was the principal settlement of Igodomigodo land.

Ado later became known as Ubinu, Ubini, Ibini, Bini, and finally Benin.

TAO11:


1. Shut up you janus-faced liar. I didnt even bother engaging you here on you Ekalderhan claim above.

All I did was to simply point out your hypocrisy by showing that you once stated started clearly that:

There was never any Ekaladerhan in your history, and that the Ekaladerhan claim was fraudulent.

Listen to yourself in the attachment below.

Having said that, the claim that Mr. Idu hails from Ile-Ife is not my claim. Rather, it is your own tradition entitled "Iso Norho" which says so.

Like I said, channel your frustration accordingly.


2. Did you just say names don't evolve? Wow! You must have convinced yourself to be the Linguist General of Igodomigodo.

Maybe you should explain how the name "Benin" came about since names don't evolve. Lol

Again, "Edo" evolved many many centuries ago from the name of Mr Idu --- your progenitor who is said (by your own Iso Norho tradition) to hail from Ile-Ife.

3. I know the word "Oba" (for "king" ) is not originally found in your lexicon. But that's not the bone of contention here.

Can you now focus and stop the distraction.


4. Eweka has no name as "Ado". In fact, "Ado" is the earliest name of Benin-city --- a section of Igodomigodo.

There is no point asking me to see any list of your Ogisos (a.k.a. Sky-Kings) because no one (except you) claimed that "Ado" is originally the name of a person.


Your last modified additions admitted that names do evolve.

But you had earlier said that names don't evolve

Don't you truly need sleep like you earlier said?

If you accept Ekerladahan did not found Ife contrary to what Edo people say. Then accept all my assertions, dont chery pick.

Igodomigodo name of a city evolved due to different events. Like lagos once called Eko now Lagos. That is a name of a city not a person.

If my farefathers name is Okoro all of a sudden am now Akpan, that doesn't make sense names dont evolved. Most of our villages names start with IDU. Like Idumota.

The Edo people said their son founded yoruba people, accept this dont be looking for a methodology that suit you.

Atigba:


If you accept Ekerladahan did not found Ife contrary to what Edo people say. Then accept all my assertions, dont chery pick.

Igodomigodo name of a city evolved due to different events. Like lagos once called Eko now Lagos. That is a name of a city not a person.

If my farefathers name is Okoro all of a sudden am now Akpan, that doesn't make sense names dont evolved. Most of our villages names start with IDU. Like Idumota.

The Edo people said their son founded yoruba people

Ekaladerhan didn't found Ife I accept that not because of you. Of course you're a nobody.

I know that because both the Yoruba account and the earliest know authoritative indigenous Benin account of Chief Egharevba does not allow for such claim.

I was simply pointing out your hypocrisy because you accept the Yoruba and the authoritative Bini accounts that Ekaladerhan never founded Ife. Yet today you hypocritically and unashamedly said he did.

Names don't evolve, right? Then explain the magic that happened from "Owomika" to "Eweka".

Also, you wish your ancestors own Idumota in Lagos. I also wish my ancestors own Rubber city in United States.

Can't you hear the sound "Rubber city" --- "Ruba city" ---- "Yoruba city".

I hope you finding this foregoing kindergarten pseudohistory very enlightening.

If wishes we're horses ...

You noted that the Edos said their son founded Yoruba people.

But both you and I admitted that such claim is absurd and nonsensical. Didn't we?

There is therefore no point "challenging" me on what you don't agree with, and which you know I also don't agree with.

Comparing this with the claim that your progenitor, Mr. Idu hails from Ile-Ife is like comparing night and day.

And that's because Mr Idu's origin as mentioned here is not my claim but your own people's tradition entitled "Iso Norho".

Don't you still get it?

TAO11:


Ekaladerhan didn't found Ife I accept that not because of you. Of course you're a nobody.

I know that because both Yoruba account and the the earliest know authoritative indigenous Benin account of Chief Egharevba say that.

I was simply pointing out your hypocrisy because you accept the Yoruba and authoritative Bini accounts that Ekaladerhan never founded Ife, yet today you hypocritically and unashamedly said he did.

Names don't evolve right, then explain the magic that happened from "Owomika" to "Eweka".

Also, you wish your ancestors own Idumota. I also wish my ancestors own Rubber city in United states.

Can't you hear the sound Rubber city --- Ruba city ---- Yoruba city.

I hope you finding this foregoing kindergarten pseudohistory very enlightening.

If wishes we're horses ...


You noted that the Edos said their son founded Yoruba people. But both you and I admitted that such claim is absurd and nonsensical. Didn't we?

There is therefore no point "challenging" me on what you don't agree with, which I also don't agree with.

Comparing this with the claim that your progenitor Mr. Idu hails from Ile-Ife is like comparing night and day.

And that's because Mr Idu's origin as mentioned here is not my claim but your own people's tradition entitled "Iso Norho".

Don't you still get it?

Ekerladahan founded yoruba people according to Edo people, whether I believe it or not it doesn't change what they strongly believed.

Owomika is not a name

Idu never evolved all our villages are still called Idu. The Edo name you are parading here according to the Benin traditional council it is the name of a servant, a warrior in Benin Kingdom not a name of group of people. Edo state was named to honor him.

Ekerldahan founded Ille Ife and rule over all yoruba land.

Atigba:


Ekerladahan founded yoruba people according to Edo people, whether I believe it or not it doesn't change what they strongly believed.

Owomika is not a name

Idu never evolved all our villages are still called Idu. The Edo name you are parading here according to the Benin traditional council it is the name of a servant, a warrior in Benin Kingdom not a name of group of people. Edo state was named to honor him.

Ekerldahan founded Ille Ife and rule over all yoruba land.

1. Whenever I debate with those "they" who said Edo founded Yoruba people, then I will take it up with those "they".

Thank God you don't agree with those "they" who said that, and you also don't represent them. Or do you agree with them?

In the case of your progenitor --- Mr. Idu; I agree with your "Iso Norho" tradition which says he hails from Ife. And that's why I could challenge you on it --- I believe it. Can you see the difference now?

In the case of Mr Idu hailing from Ile-Ife:

(i) It is your "Iso-Norho" tradition which says so, not my tradition.

(ii) I agree with what it says as regards Mr. Idu hailing from Ife.

In conclusion, it makes sense if I challenge you with it.

On the other hand. In the case of Mr Ekaladerhan supposedly founding Ife:

(i)It is not my tradition which says so.

(ii)You do not agree with what it says as regards Ekalderhan founding Ife.

In conclusion, it makes no sense that you "challenge" me with what is not in my tradition, and which you also don't agree with.

The difference between the two methodologies is as the difference between night and day --- striking.

2. And who says "Owomika" is not a name? Oh, names are not supposed to have meanings? Lol.

"Owomika" is the name of the first Oba of Benin (if Oranmiyan is considered as merely laying the foundation).

He pronounced his own name when he spoke out for the first time.

And in fact, this event led to the tradition that every incoming Oba of Benin would pronounce his own name just as the first Oba did.

"Owomika" evolved/got corrupted into "Eweka" over the centuries.

Also Jesus is not the "Messiah's" name given to him by his family. It slowly evolved over time into that.

Names do evolve.

"Idu" evolved into "Edo" and became the name of the people as a group.

Did you just say "Edo" was the name of a slave. Oh, did it stop being the name of Eweka?

You're the most confused creature ever liveth.


And regarding Ekaladerhan, you have to pick a conclusion and stick to it.

It's either he founded Ife or he didnt. It can not possibly be both.

Im sorry I frustrated you to this point where you can't help but to sit on the fence.

TAO11:


1. Whenever I debate with those "they" who said Edo founded Yoruba people, then I will take it up with those "they".

Thank God you don't agree with those "they" who said that, and you also don't represent them. Or do you agree with them?

In the case of your progenitor --- Mr. Idu; I agree with your "Iso Norho" tradition which says he hails from Ife. And that's why I could challenge you on it --- I believe it. Can you see the difference now?

In the case of Mr Idu hailing from Ile-Ife:

(i) It is your "Iso-Norho" tradition which says so, not my tradition.

(ii) I agree with what it says as regards Mr. Idu hailing from Ife.

In conclusion, it makes sense if I challenge you with it.

On the other hand. In the case of Mr Ekaladerhan supposedly founding Ife:

(i)It is not my tradition which says so.

(ii)You do not agree with what it says as regards Ekalderhan founding Ife.

In conclusion, it makes no sense that you challenge me with what is not in my tradition, and which you also don't agree with.

The difference between the two methodologies is as the difference between night and day --- striking.

2. And who says "Owomika" is not a name? Oh, names are not supposed to have meanings? Lol.

"Owomika" is the name of the first Oba of Benin (if Oranmiyan is considered as merely laying the foundation).

He pronounced his own name when he spoke out for the first time.

And in fact, this event led to the tradition that every incoming Oba of Benin would pronounce his own name just as the first Oba did.

"Owomika" evolved/got corrupted into "Eweka" over the centuries.

Also Jesus is not the "Messiah's" name given to him by his family. It slowly evolved over time into that.

Names do evolve.

"Idu" evolved into "Edo" and became the name of the people as a group.

Did you just say "Edo" was the name of a slave. Oh, did it stop being the name of Eweka?

You're the most confused creature ever liveth.


And regarding Ekaladerhan, you have to pick a conclusion and stick to it.

It's either he founded Ife or he didnt. It can not possibly be both.

Im sorry i frustrated you to this point where you can't help but to sit on the fence.

Owomika is an expression not a name of a person. That is the first word the first Oba of Benin altered. The Benin people started that day calling it Eweka. It did not evolved in centuries.

Idu has nothing to do with Ife rather Ekerladahan conquered Ife people and rule all the kingdoms in yoruba land, a Edo man.

Edo is name of a servant/warrior

Think about this for once if our children did not conquered the Yoruba people, why were they selling them as slaves. If they are Yoruba can you sell your own. Ask your people in South America

Eko is our slave camp, the slave there were Yorubas.

Nobody celebrate Iso Norho in our land, I dont even know what is that. We celebrate new yam festival.

Ekerladahan an Edo man is the progenitor of the yoruba race

Atigba:


Owomika is an expression not a name of a person. That is the first word the first Oba of Benin altered. The Benin people started that day calling it Eweka. It did not evolved in centuries.

Idu has nothing to do with Ife rather Ekerladahan conquered Ife people and rule all the kingdoms in yoruba land, a Edo man.

Edo is name of a servant/warrior

Think about this for once if our children did not conquered the Yoruba people, why were they selling them as slaves. If they are Yoruba can you sell you own. As your people in South America

Eko is our slave camp, the slave there were Yorubas.

Nobody celebrate Iso Norho in our land, I dont even know what is that. We celebrate new yam festival.

Ekerladahan an Edo man is the progenitor of the yoruba people

And who said names aren't expressions? I hope you aren't retarded.

If the expression didnt become his name, then no tradition will follow from it whereby new Obas are to pronounce their own names just as he did.

Provide your evidence that Benin people that day heard Owomika, and yet they decided and began from that point to start calling him Eweka, instead.

Like seriously??

The progenitor of your ancestors, Mr Idu hails from Ife.

Says who? Say your ancestors' tradition called the "Iso-Norho" a.k.a. the tradition of "pouring sky".

Don't be afraid to find it out using the reference I gave earlier on. And thank me later for telling you something about your origin.

And nobody, said "Iso-Norho" is a festival. You appear dumber than I initially give you credit for.


Regarding Ekalderhan, I know you're only emotionally reaction to the truth I just exposed you to about your origin from your own account.

You said clearly, and I already attached it as a screenshot earlier, that:

In your history, there was never any Ekaladerhan who went to found Ife. You said such account is fraudulent.

In other words, I understand why you're now pushing for what you admit to be a fraud.

Anyways, I am sorry.


Who is deceiving you that Binis were not sold into slavery??

No community on the West coast of Africa was spared in the transatlantic slave-trade.

There were several slave raids and skirmishes that got the Binis sold into slavery. Don't be deceived, okay?


Eko is no slave camp. You actually wish it was. But wishes aren't horses.


And lastly, you once said "Edo" was the name of Eweka1 (see attached screenshot) but now it has suddenly become the name of a slave.

Aren't you tired of contradicting yourself?/

TAO11:


And who said names aren't expressions? I hope you aren't retarded.

If the expression didnt become his name, then no tradition will follow from it whereby new Obas are to pronounce their own names just as he did.

Provide your evidence that Benin people that day heard Owomika, and yet they decided and began from that point to start calling him Eweka, instead.

Like seriously??

The progenitor of your ancestors, Mr Idu hails from Ife.

Says who? Say your ancestors' tradition called the "Iso-Norho" a.k.a. the tradition of "pouring sky".

Don't be afraid to find it out using the reference I gave earlier on. And thank me later for telling you something about your origin.

And nobody, said Iso-Norho is a festival. You appear dumber than I initially give you credit for.

Regarding Ekalderhan, I know you're only emotionally reaction to the truth I just exposed you to about your origin from your own account.

You said clearly, and I already attached it as a screenshot earlier, that:

In your history, there was never an Ekaladerhan who went to found Ife. You said such account is fraudulent.

In other words, I understand why you're now push for what you admit to be a fraud.

Anyways, I am sorry.

Who is deceiving you that Binis were not sold into slavery??

No community on the West coast of Africa was spared in the transatlantic slave-trade.

There were several slave raids and skirmishes that got the Binis sold into slavery. Don't be deceived, okay?

Eko is no slave camp. You actually wish it was. But wishes aren't horses.


And lastly, you once said "Edo" was the name of Eweka1 (see attached screenshot) but now it's has suddenly become the name of a slave.

Aren't you tired of contradicting yourself?/

Edo people believed Ekerladehan founded Ife. It doesn't matter what I said that you dont even believe. You said I lied, and you debated with me that is true Ekerladehan founded Ife.

Ekerladehan is the progenitor of the yoruba race.

Owomika is know as Eweka, it has always been so since day one.

Yes Lagos was one of our slave camp, like bonny Ireland and the rest. were we sold many Yorubas as slaves.

Oba Orhogbua founded Lagos and planted a dukedom, the Obaship of Lagos (Eko).

If is tru Idu people has any relationship with the Yorubas why were they selling them as slaves.

Edo is a servant/warrior of an Oba whose name was used name was named after the state.

We run all the slave camps in the southern part of Nigeria. No one sold us as slaves.


Ekerladahan conquered Ile ife and rule over all the kingdoms.

Atigba:


Edo people believed Ekerladehan founded Ife. It doesn't matter what I said that you dont even believe. You said I lied, and you debated with me that is true Ekerladehan founded Ife.

Ekerladehan is the progenitor of the yoruba race.

Owomika is know as Eweka, it has always been so since day one.

Yes Lagos was one of our slave camp, like bonny Ireland and the rest. were we sold many Yorubas as slaves.

Oba Orhogbua founded Lagos and planted a dukedom, the Obaship of Lagos (Eko).

If is tru Idu people has any relationship with the Yorubas why were they selling them as slaves.

Edo is a servant/warrior of an Oba whose name was used name was named after the state.

We run all the slave camps in the southern part of Nigeria. No one sold us as slaves.


Ekerladahan conquered Ile ife and rule over all the kingdoms.

No Yoruba person ever says that Ekaladerhan founded Ife.

My debate with you was that:

You said there was nobody as Ekaladerhan, but I maintained and proved that Ekaladerhan, son of Ogiso Owodo was banished to Ughoton where he lived and died.

The claim that Ekaladerhan founded Ife is a fraudulent claim. Says who? Says you Atigba. You must be wondering why I would not allow you contradict yourself today in peace.

No sane person hears "Owomika" and decides to say "Eweka" instead. It evolved slowly over the centuries. Names do evolve just as Jesus was not originally "Jesus".

Lagos was never a slave camp. I have already told you that wishes aren't horses.

Yorubas captured and sold Binis as slaves. And we still do so till date. That's precisely what we do over you till date by scrapping your Ogiso and installed our Oba.

Lagos was founded by the Aworis, not Oba Orhogbua.

One second ago Edo was the name of Eweka. The next second, Edo is the name of a slave. You were right when you said you need sleep.

Like I said the Yorubas conquered and sold you into slavery. And the conquest still continues till date even as I type.

Like I said and which you agreed, the claim that Ekaladerhan even came to Ife at all is fraudulent.

TAO11:


No Yoruba person ever says that Ekaladerhan founded Ife.

My debate with you was that:

You said there was nobody as Ekaladerhan, but I maintained and proved that Ekaladerhan, son of Ogiso Owodo was banished to Ughoton where he lived and died.

The claim that Ekaladerhan founded Ife is a fraudulent claim. Says who? Says you Atigba. You must be wondering why I would not allow you contradict yourself today in peace.

No sane person hears "Owomika" and decides to say "Eweka" instead. It evolved slowly over the centuries. Names do evolve just as Jesus was not originally "Jesus".

Lagos was never a slave camp. I have already told you that wishes aren't horses.

Yorubas captured and sold Binis as slaves. And we still do so till date. That's precisely what we do over you till date by scrapping your Ogiso and installed our Oba.

Lagos was founded by the Aworis, not Oba Orhogbua.

One second ago Edo was the name of Eweka. The next second, Edo is the name of a slave. You were right when you said you need sleep.

Like I said the Yorubas conquered and sold you into slavery. And the conquest still continues till date even as I type.

Like I said and which you agreed, the claim that Ekaladerhan even came to Ife at all is fraudulent.

Eko was founded by our people. Eko is our name, we used the place to sell many Yorubas to south america. We first conquered the Aworis.

Ekerladehan is a progenitor of the yoruba race.

Yorubas never captured Binis, Orominyan ran back to Ille Ife when he saw fire, he called our land Ille Ibinu vexation. Because our people de vex.

It is well documented all the Yorubas in south america and europe was sold by our people

Lagos was the biggest slave market in Nigeria and is run by us. Eko is camp in our name.

Edo is the name of a servant

You agreed before that Ekerladahan founded Ile Ife and Yoruba race hence your arguments with me way back.

Atigba:


Eko was founded by our people. Eko is our name, we used the place to sell many Yorubas to south america. We first conquered the Aworis.

Ekerladehan is a progenitor of the yoruba race.

Yorubas never captured Binis, Orominyan ran back to Ille Ife when he saw fire, he called our land Ille Ibinu vexation. Because our people de vex.

It is well documented all the Yorubas in south america and europe was sold by our people

Lagos was the biggest slave market in Nigeria and is run by us. Eko is camp in our name.

Edo is the name of a servant

You agreed before that Ekerladahan founded Ile Ife and Yoruba race hence your arguments with me way back.

No one conquered the Aworis. Rather the Binis begged to live in Lagos under the Olofin's rule. "Eko" is a Benin word just as "Benin" is a Portuguese coinage. Do we conclude then conclude that the Portuguese founded Igodomigodo? Laughable logic.

The claim that Ekaladerhan even found his way to Ife (let alone rule) is a fraudulent claim. ---- Atigba, 2019


You admitted just a moment ago that Oranmiyan was a "jihadist" who conquered your Igodomigodo land and installed the Oba monarch supplanting your Ogiso till date. How many contradiction do you have to make to realize it?

The Yorubas in South America are captives from the civil war within the Yoruba country itself. Each Yoruba subgroup saw itself as independent and sovereign.

The Binis, on the hand, were sold into slavery in the Americas; as well as into prostitution in Europe.

Lagos was never a slave market. You wish it was. "Eko" means camp and that's because the Binis who migrated to Lagos for greener pastures lived in camps, under the command of the Olofin. Perhaps this is the slave market you've been talking about.

Edo is the name of Eweka just a moment ago, and now the name of a slave. Sleep is indeed vital.

Point out where I said Ekaladerhan founded Ife.

Rather, I agreed with you that such a claim is fraudulent.





"Idu" your progenitor, on the other hand, hails from Ile-Ife according to your own tradition.

"Edo" evolved from "Idu" to become the name of the people as a group.

"Ado" is the former name of Benin-city.

"Eweka" evolved from "Owomika"

Oranmiyan scrapped your Ogiso because that's how stars do.

TAO11:


No one conquered the Aworis. Rather the Binis begged to live in Lagos under the Olofin's rule. "Eko" is a Benin word just as "Benin" is a Portuguese coinage. Do we conclude then conclude that the Portuguese founded Igodomigodo? Laughable logic.

The claim that Ekaladerhan even found his way to Ife (let alone rule) is a fraudulent claim. ---- Atigba, 2019

Orominyan brought war, and ran back to Ife. He attest that the people de vex. A failed invasion

You said names evolved, why cant you accept believed evolved as well. Edo people account Ekerladahan is the progenitor of the yoruba race

We founded Eko and used it to sell Yorubas as slaves










You admitted just a moment ago that Oranmiyan was a "jihadist" who conquered your Igodomigodo land and installed the Oba monarch supplanting your Ogiso till date. How many contradiction do you have to make to realize it?

The Yorubas in South America are captives from the civil war within the Yoruba country itself. Each Yoruba subgroup saw itself as independent and sovereign.

The Binis, on the hand, were sold into slavery in the Americas; as well as into prostitution in Europe.

Lagos was never a slave market. You wish it was. "Eko" means camp and that's because the Binis who migrated to Lagos for greener pastures lived in camps, under the command of the Olofin. Perhaps this is the slave market you've been talking about.

Edo is the name of Eweka just a moment ago, and now the name of a slave. Sleep is indeed vital.

Point out where I said Ekaladerhan founded Ife.

Rather, I agreed with you that such a claim is fraudulent.





"Idu" your progenitor, on the other hand, hails from Ile-Ife according to your own tradition.

"Edo" evolved from "Idu" to become the name of the people as a group.

"Ado" is the former name of Benin-city.

"Eweka" evolved from "Owomika"

Oranmiyan scrapped your Ogiso because that's how stars do.

He brought war meant his match and shouted land of vexation and ran back to Ife.

If you believed name evolved why cant you accept believed evolved as well. Our people believed Ekerladehan is the progenitor of the yoruba race

Eko belongs to us, we sold Yorubas there. That is historic fact.

Atigba:


He brought war meant his match and shouted land of vexation and ran back to Ife.

If you believed name evolved why cant you accept believed evolved as well. Our people believed Ekerladehan is the progenitor of the yoruba race

Eko belongs to us, we sold Yorubas there. That is historic fact.

Met his match, yet scrapped your ancestors' dynasty for about 1000 years and still counting??

The claim that Ekaladerhan even came to Ife (let alone rule Ife) is a fraudulent claim ---- Atigba, 2019

Lagos belongs to the Aworis. The Aworis kept the Bini migrants in camps called "Eko" in the Edo language.

TAO11:


Met his match, yet scrapped your ancestors' dynasty for about 1000 years and still counting??

The claim that Ekaladerhan even came to Ife (let alone rule Ife) is a fraudulent claim ---- Atigba, 2019

Lagos belongs to the Aworis. The Aworis kept the Bini migrants in camps called "Eko" in the Edo language.

Ekerladahan is the progenitor of the yoruba race and Orominyan is our son a descendant of Ekerladahan.

Aworis were conquered and sold as slaves along with other Yorubas in Eko. They are all in south America and Europe

Atigba:


Ekerladahan is the progenitor of the yoruba race and Orominyan is our son a descendant of Ekerladahan.

Aworis were conquered and sold as slaves along with other Yorubas in Eko. They are all in south America and Europe

The claim that Ekaladerhan even came to Ife (let alone rule Ife) is a fraudulent claim ---- Atigba, 2019


Lagos belongs to the Aworis. The Aworis kept the Bini migrants in camps called "Eko" in the Edo language. We sold some of them to the Americas as slaves, and some of them to Italy as prostitutes.

TAO11:



The claim that Ekaladerhan even came to Ife (let alone rule Ife) is a fraudulent claim ---- Atigba, 2019


Lagos belongs to the Aworis. The Aworis kept the Bini migrants in camps called "Eko" in the Edo language. We sold some of them to the Americas as slaves, and some of them to Italy as prostitutes.

You disagreed and argued is true Ekerladehan is the progenitor of the yoruba race. That you believed all Edo account of oduduwa.


We sold Aworis as slave in Eko

Whenever you re ready to leave methodology alone, then we can have a logical discussion.

Yorubas are our slaves

Ekerladahan founded Ille Ife

Atigba:


You disagreed and argued is true Ekerladehan is the progenitor of the yoruba race. That you believed all Edo account of oduduwa.


We sold Aworis as slave in Eko

Whenever you re ready to leave methodology alone, then we can have a logical discussion.

Yorubas are our slaves

Ekerladahan founded Ille Ife

Hahaha! Point out where I disagreed and argued that Ekaladerhan was anything more than an Igodomigodo prince banished from Igodomigodo to Ughoton where he lived and died.

And if you cant point out where I said I agreed with the Apocryphal Ekaladerhan account of your people, then return your foregoing statement to your lie-bank from where you brought it out.


We kept Binis in camps (i.e. "Eko" ) and sold them as slaves to the Americas and some to Italy for prostitution.

In other words, children of Mr.Idu are slaves to the Aworis in Lagos. Oranmiyan started it when he conquered them anyways.

And one more time, the claim that Ekaladerhan even came to Ife (let alone rule Ife) is a fraudulent claim ---- Atigba, 2019. uh la la




While I'm waiting, please be reminded that:

"Idu" your progenitor, on the other hand, hails from Ile-Ife according to your own tradition.

"Edo" evolved from "Idu" to become the name of the people as a group.

"Ado" is the former name of Benin-city.

"Eweka" evolved from "Owomika"

Oranmiyan scrapped your Ogiso because that's how stars do.

Atigba:


I don't lie, every thing I ever told you is true

The Oba of Benin is a native of Ille Ife and Awori people are from Benin. You said you are Awori that time.

Why are you not answering my email?

You people are fooling yourselves with your distorted mind and delusion of grandeur, fake self appraisal ..Awori are from Benin? total rubbish..Aworis are from ile- ife with solid evidence and record at ile-ife ..Laughing from ear to ear ..No evidence of migration route taken to Lagos by the Benin or edo they could possibly flown over the ijebus and the ilajes ''haha!!! ..First Benin in Lagos Island was prince Ado brought to Lagos aboard ship by the Portuguese sailor/explorer...With the Help of the Portuguese and his royal status as direct descendant of Oranmiyan he was made king, "Eko Ele'Eko of Eko known as Lagos Island , he could relate with the locals the aworis fluently in Ede-ife or Yoruba because he was prince and language spoken in the Benin palace was Yoruba .

Atigba:


You disagreed and argued is true Ekerladehan is the progenitor of the yoruba race. That you believed all Edo account of oduduwa.


We sold Aworis as slave in Eko

Whenever you re ready to leave methodology alone, then we can have a logical discussion.

Yorubas are our slaves

Ekerladahan founded Ille Ife

You sold aworis as slave in Eko... huh Lie .. How did you people get to Lagos? i know your forefathers were not evolved enough to tame beast of burden ... your forefathers can not sail to Lagos or trek to Lagos on foot ...Yoruba were able to Migrate and travel wide and far because we are equestrian people we've been taming beast of burden for thousands of years Yoruba are unique people because we are seafarers ,Arid/ desert and forest people

Obalufon:



Laughing beaded like Benin is other way round IFE are heavily beaded people, land of the gods ..Glass beads making is from ile- ife before it was introduce to Benin.. ..That's is real ife traditional regalia

This is mere claims ...beads were traded all around africa before the arrival of the whitemen ....yorubas traded kolanut with the north for beads for beads and textile materials ....this is known fact ....


You have to do more research work to lay claims if any beads were ever done in youruba

TAO11:


Hmmm! created [b]Mr. Idu and placed him in Benin City.
[/b]
This is getting interesting!

*So, tell me was Mr. Idu not bored, being the first and only human?

*Where did Mr Idu's descendants come from?

*Did God create Mr Idu's wife from Mr Idu's ribs?




Having said that, I'm not sure where the name Israel popped out from.

I simply asked you an entirely different question that does not mention the name of any country or place. Why then did you get worked up and defensive.

Q: What is 1+1 ?
A: You want me to say 11.

Like seriously?

salford1:

That is the costume of Obalufon (descendant of Obatala). Obalufon's descendants reigned after the demise of Odua and before the return of Oranmiyan. Oduas lineage regained the throne after the arrival of Oranmiyan.

abeg safe your self the rap because you're as ignorant as the non Yorubas. You have no knowledge of Yoruba lineage......

gregyboy:



This is mere claims ...beads were traded all around africa before the arrival of the whitemen ....yorubas traded kolanut with the north for beads for beads and textile materials ....this is known fact ....


You have to do more research work to lay claims if any beads were ever done in youruba

White men didn't find your landscape as having bead as far back as 1200 years ago with a radioactive isotope of carbon, especially (nuclide) information, so what's your point? You re a loser forever on Yoruba's relationship with Igodomigodo...Bini is even a Yoruba name

gregyboy:



This is mere claims ...beads were traded all around africa before the arrival of the whitemen ....yorubas traded kolanut with the north for beads for beads and textile materials ....this is known fact ....


You have to do more research work to lay claims if any beads were ever done in youruba

which north lol... you mean Hausa.. you are fucking idiot the stones used in production of glass beads were local native to our region.. Every deity has its own beads do your research Mr Edo.. we are superior to you people, without the yorubas your forefather will have no cloth to cover their nasty ass.. i guess you mean the bones and nut beads stick beads your ancestor were using before the coming of oranmiyan... Even ivory crafting were done by the Owos for Benin royal palace

gregyboy:



This is mere claims ...beads were traded all around africa before the arrival of the whitemen ....yorubas traded kolanut with the north for beads for beads and textile materials ....this is known fact ....


You have to do more research work to lay claims if any beads were ever done in youruba

Africans. are not the same people .. we evolve differently.... clothing culture was brought to southern forest in habitat by the Yoruba.. igbo were not so lucky they were cloth in raffia ..yoruba enlightened the edos brought them out darkness ..itshekiri from remo ijebu enlightened the south south lukumi from Akure contributed to the south south genetically
also the wave of Yoruba from Benin to onitcha ado gave them lil enlightenment

The Yoruba of the Middle Ages had 3 methods of bead manufacturing

They used powdered-glass to make beads from finely ground blue, green, and red

glass
They polished beads into shape from broken glass
They drew beads from heated dark greenish and medium blue glass. This method

was considered the most sophisticated and the beads created differ from the

European traded ones found at most sites in West Africa because of their unusual

length, method of production and other attributes.


Evidence exists that the glass used in bead production by the Yoruba was

indigenous to the region . The composition of the cobalt blue and blue green

segi glass used are not found anywhere else in the world. This means that the

glass and the beads made from them were manufactured in Ile Ife as part of the

unique Yoruba glass making industry. Reference : Lankton, Ige, and Rehren (2006)