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Is Islam A Religion Of Violence? by seguntijan(m): 10:32pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
Do you know that if you mistakenly or unintentionally kill (manslaughter) someone in Islam you must pay #62.8 million as compensation (Diyah) to the family of your victim? So, how can such religion encourage violence and terrorism in the name getting virgins as a reward in paradise? Think about it carefully. How can you use the mischievous and gruesome acts of less than 5% individuals out of about 2 billion Muslims we have all over the world to justify what Islam really entails as a religion? If Islam is a religion of terrorism, won't the world be in chaos right now? How can we actually handle the violence of 2 billion people at the same time? Many of you have Muslims as friends and relatives? How many times has he/she showed any violent behavior to you, maybe he used a gun or knife to threaten you? Can you actually stand in front of a real terrorist and accuse him of terrorism? Or you just want to choose what you want to believe in, irrespective of whether it is authentic or false Try to sit down, ponder and research more about what Islam really entails. Don't limit your knowledge to what the media present to you, they only select and pinpoint what they want you to hear, don't be brainwashed. Just because you are not an adherent of a religion doesn't mean all what they say about them is correct. How can a religion that says "whoever kill a soul, it is as if he killed the entirety of the mankind" be described as a religion of terrorism� The Qur'an says: مَن قَتَلَ نَفْسًا بِغَيْرِ نَفْسٍ أَوْ فَسَادٍ فِي الْأَرْضِ فَكَأَنَّمَا قَتَلَ النَّاسَ جَمِيعًا وَمَنْ أَحْيَاهَا فَكَأَنَّمَا أَحْيَا النَّاسَ جَمِيعًا ..if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. What you don't know is that, the terrorists in order to carry out there nefarious acts, feigned the understanding on the Qur'anic texts, While we can not deny or expunge some Qur'anic verses that command the Muslims to kill their enemies, It is important to study the Quran or religious texts in its proper and natural context. When they are not read in their proper, textual and historical context, it will be easily twisted and distorted. There are many biblical verses that talk about killing as well, does that now automatically make Christianity a religion of terrorism? These are examples of some them:- "… *you shall not leave alive anything that breathes. But you shall utterly destroy them. Deuteronomy 20: 16 *(Read it from 10-18)* *"You must destroy (consume) all the peoples the Lord your God gives over to you"* Deuteronomy 7:16 *Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves.* (Numbers 31:17-18) "Of the three texts, the content in the Old Testament appears to be the most violent."Killing and destruction are referenced slightly more often in the New Testament (2.8%) than in the Quran (2.1%), but the Old Testament clearly leads—more than twice that of the Quran—in mentions of destruction and killing (5.3%)." https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/violence-more-common-in-bible-than-quran-text-analysis-reveals-a6863381.html This is an article from " the Independent"... While you wouldn't see Muslims tagging Christianity as a religion of violence due the numerous biblical verses that talk about "killing" .. It is pathetic that many Christian leaders and the media are using different Qur'anic verses to blackmail Islam,tagging it a religion of violence just to score cheap religious points. Even though, the verses were directed exclusively to Prophet Muhammad and his companions during the early advent of Islam to defend themselves against intense persecutions from their enemies. It is pertinent to note that, the glorious Qur'an is a sacred book that cannot be interpreted by laymen, even a professor of Arabic Language born in Saudi Arabia must never interpret the Quran by his logic understanding. To interpret the Qur'an, you must study the history and exegesis of Qur'an (Tafseer), this is a field of study that scholars spent years to pursue. Conclusively, the above points are just few points among many to demystify the claims of many, that Islam is a religion of Violence. I know many Muslims who can't hurt even an ant or mosquito, not to talk of a human being. Islam is a religion of peace and nothing else, that is why whenever you come across a Muslim, the first word he is going to utter is "Asalamualykum Warohmatullah Wabarakatuhu" that is may Allah's peace, mercy and blessings be upon you. 4 Likes |
Re: Is Islam A Religion Of Violence? by Rashduct4luv(m): 6:36am On Oct 01, 2019 |
Wa alaykum Salam warahmatullah wabarakatuh |
Re: Is Islam A Religion Of Violence? by BroOptimist(m): 10:25am On Oct 01, 2019 |
seguntijan: JazzakumAllahu Khairan for this useful information and enlightenment. 1 Like |
Re: Is Islam A Religion Of Violence? by chuose2: 10:53am On Oct 02, 2019 |
A religion that preaches to beat ur own wife cannot be peaceful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39K9K1T7wvg 3 Likes |
Re: Is Islam A Religion Of Violence? by seguntijan(m): 10:08am On Oct 03, 2019 |
chuose2: There is nothing in the Qur’aan that suggests that a man is allowed to bite his wife. 1 – The Qur’aan enjoins good treatment of one's wife: she is to be honoured and treated kindly, even when one no longer feels love in one's heart towards her. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “and live with them honourably. If you dislike them, it may be that you dislike a thing and Allaah brings through it a great deal of good” [al-Nisa’ 4:19] 2 – The Qur’aan explains that women have rights over their husbands, just as their husbands have rights over them. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And they (women) have rights (over their husbands as regards living expenses) similar (to those of their husbands) over them (as regards obedience and respect) to what is reasonable, but men have a degree (of responsibility) over them. And Allaah is All-Mighty, All-Wise” [al-Baqarah 2:228] This verse indicates that the man has additional rights, commensurate with his role as protector and maintainer and his responsibility of spending (on his wife) etc. 3 – The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) enjoined kind treatment and honouring of one’s wife, and he described the best of people as those who are best to their wives. He said: “The best of you are those who are the best to their wives, and I am the best of you to my wives.” Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 3895; Ibn Maajah, 1977; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi. 4 – The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) spoke beautiful word concerning kind treatment of one’s wife, stating that when the husband feeds his wife and puts a morsel of food in her mouth, he earns the reward of doing an act of charity. He said, “You never spend anything but you will be rewarded for it, even the morsel of food that you lift to your wife’s mouth.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 6352; Muslim, 1628. 4 – And he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Fear Allaah with regard to women, for you have taken them as a trust from Allaah and intimacy with them has become permissible to you by the words of Allaah. Your right over them is that they should not allow anyone to sit on your furniture whom you dislike; if they do that then hit them but not in a harsh manner. And their right over you is that you should provide for them and clothe them on a reasonable basis.” Narrated by Muslim, 1218. What is meant by “they should not allow anyone to sit on your furniture whom you dislike” is that they should not allow anyone whom you dislike to enter your houses, whether the person disliked is a man or a woman, or any of the woman’s mahrams [close relatives to whom marriage is forbidden]. The prohibition includes all of them. From the words of al-Nawawi. The hadeeth may be understood as meaning that a man has the right to hit his wife, in a manner that is not harsh and does not cause injury if if there is a reason for that, such as her going against his wishes or disobeying him. This is like the verse in which Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “As to those women on whose part you see ill‑conduct, admonish them (first), (next) refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance). Surely, Allaah is Ever Most High, Most Great” [al-Nisa’ 4:34] If a woman rebels against her husband and disobeys his commands, then he should follow this method of admonishing her, forsaking her in bed and hitting her. Hitting is subject to the condition that it should not be harsh or cause injury. Al-Hasan al-Basri said: this means that it should not cause pain. ‘Ata’ said: I said to Ibn ‘Abbaas, what is the kind of hitting that is not harsh? He said, Hitting with a siwaak and the like. [A siwaak is a small stick or twig used for cleaning the teeth - Translator] The purpose behind this is not to hurt or humiliate the woman, rather it is intended to make her realize that she has transgressed against her husband’s rights, and that her husband has the right to set her straight and discipline her. And Allaah knows best. |
Re: Is Islam A Religion Of Violence? by midnighter(f): 10:59am On Oct 04, 2019 |
seguntijan: It says youre allowed to tap her with a local toothbrush..why! |
Re: Is Islam A Religion Of Violence? by tintingz(m): 7:27pm On Oct 08, 2019 |
Quick answer: Yes. 1 Like |
Re: Is Islam A Religion Of Violence? by true2god: 7:34am On Oct 09, 2019 |
tintingz:From the mouth of an ex-muslim? I believe you. |
Re: Is Islam A Religion Of Violence? by tintingz(m): 8:14am On Oct 09, 2019 |
true2god: Saying Islam is not a violent religion is dishonesty. I can mention a non-violent religion, a non-abrahamic religion that is peaceful to the core. 2 Likes |
Re: Is Islam A Religion Of Violence? by true2god: 7:55am On Oct 10, 2019 |
seguntijan:You tried but you are not being completely honest. This is what quran 4:34 (Yusuf Ali) says: "....As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all)." I bolded the above for a reason being that even if the wife has done no wrong, the husband is meant to discipline the wife if he 'fears' she will be 'disloyal and ill-conduct'. This is left at the discretion of the husband to determine when he perceived disloyalty from the wife. Islam is never against wife-beating but the translators of the quran put, in parenthesis, 'beat slightly' which is not in the original arabic. Go and read the original arabic text and you will never see the word 'beat lightly' but just 'beat'. It is very ok for a muslim man to beat his disobedient wife. See the sunnah below and have a better understanding of what I am talking about. Sahih Muslim Book 4, Hadith Number 2127: Narrated by Aisha: He (The Prophet, peace be upon him) hastened his steps and I also hastened my steps. He ran and I too ran. He came (to the house) and I also came (to the house). I, however, preceded him and I entered (the house), and as I lay down in the bed, he (the Holy Prophet) entered the (house), and said: Why is it, O 'Aisha, that you are out of breath? I said: There is nothing. He said: Tell me or the Subtle and the Aware would inform me. I said: Messenger of Allah, may my father and mother be ransom for you, and then I told him (the whole story). He said: Was it the darkness (of your shadow) that I saw in front of me? I said: Yes. He struck me on the chest which caused me pain, and then said: Did you think that Allah and His Apostle would deal unjustly with you? She said: Whatsoever the people conceal, Allah will know it. Mohammed struck Aisha on her chest which caused her pain, you can now compare this incident with quran 4:34. 1 Like |
Re: Is Islam A Religion Of Violence? by najib632(m): 10:07am On Oct 18, 2019 |
chuose2:We all agree that prophet Muhammad s.a.w. Has more knowledge than any other muslim and his examples are what muslims should follow, please give us an instance where the messenger of Allah beat any of his wives from hadith or seerah. |
Re: Is Islam A Religion Of Violence? by najib632(m): 10:19am On Oct 18, 2019 |
true2god:A single palm to the chest can not be called beating. You consider that instance that's not even reasonable to be an evidence?! Smh he skipped all the commands of Allah and jumped to the last one in the ayyah? Where did you live all the verses that condem injustice against women? Where did you live the hadith of Umar joking with the messenger of Allah about women misbehaving because of Islam? You're just a voluntary worker for the devil. Where did you leave these Ahadith? Abu Dawud, Nikah 42. See also Ibn Majah, Nikah 51 Many women come and complain to the wives of Muhammad about their husbands. Those who beat their wives are not the good ones among you." Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 73, Number 68: Narrated 'Abdullah bin Zam'a: The Prophet forbade laughing at a person who passes wind, and said, "How does anyone of you beat his wife as he beats the stallion camel and then he may embrace (sleep with) her?" And Hisham said, "As he beats his slave". Abu Dawud, Book 11, Number 2139: Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri: I went to the Apostle of Allah and asked him: What do you say (command) about our wives? He replied: Give them food what you have for yourself, and clothe them by which you clothe yourself, and do not beat them, and do not revile them. Abu Dawud, Book 11, Number 2137: Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri: Mu'awiyah asked: Apostle of Allah, what is the right of the wife of one of us over him? He replied: That you should give her food when you eat, clothe her when you clothe yourself, do not strike her on the face, do not revile her or separate yourself from her except in the house. Abu Dawud, Book 11, Number 2141: Narrated Abdullah ibn AbuDhubab: Iyas ibn Abdullah ibn AbuDhubab reported the Apostle of Allah as saying: "Do not beat Allah's handmaidens", but when Umar came to the Apostle of Allah and said: Women have become emboldened towards their husbands, he (the Prophet) gave permission to beat them. Then many women came round the family of the Apostle of Allah complaining against their husbands. So the Apostle of Allah said: Many women have gone round Muhammad's family complaining against their husbands. They (the men) are not the best among you. See the Aisha R.A. that you're quoting: Tafsir Ibn Kathir, chapter 68: Imam Ahmad recorded that 'A'ishah said, "The Messenger of Allah never struck a servant of his with his hand, nor did he ever hit a woman. He never hit anything with his hand, except for when he was fighting Jihad in the cause of Allah. And he was never given the option between two things except that the most beloved of the two to him was the easiest of them, as long as it did not involve sin. If it did involve sin, then he stayed farther away from sin than any of the people. He would not avenge himself concerning anything that was done to him, except if the limits of Allah were transgressed. Then, in that case he would avenge for the sake of Allah.'' the Hadith you quoted was not even complete, one of the characters of shaytan is to twist the truth by mixing it falsehood: Muslim, Book 004, Number 2127: Muhammad b. Qais said (to the people): Should I not narrate to you (a hadith of the Holy Prophet) on my authority and on the authority of my mother? We thought that he meant the mother who had given him birth. He (Muhammad b. Qais) then reported that it was 'A'isha who had narrated this: Should I not narrate to you about myself and about the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him)? We said: Yes.[b] She said: When it was my turn for Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) to spend the night with me, he turned his side, put on his mantle and took off his shoes and placed them near his feet, and spread the corner of his shawl on his bed and then lay down till he thought that I had gone to sleep. He took hold of his mantle slowly and put on the shoes slowly, and opened the door and went out and then closed it lightly. I covered my head, put on my veil and tightened my waist wrapper, and then went out following his steps till he reached Baqi'. He stood there and he stood for a long time. He then lifted his hands three times, and then returned and I also returned. He hastened his steps and I also hastened my steps. He ran and I too ran. He came (to the house) and I also came (to the house). I, however, preceded him and I entered (the house), and as I lay down in the bed, he (the Holy Prophet) entered the (house), and said: Why is it, O 'A'isha, that you are out of breath? I said: There is nothing. He said: Tell me or the Subtle and the Aware would inform me. I said: Messenger of Allah, may my father and mother be ransom for you, and then I told him (the whole story). He said: Was it the darkness (of your shadow) that I saw in front of me? I said: Yes. He struck me on the chest which caused me pain, and then said: Did you think that Allah and His Apostle would deal unjustly with you? She said: Whatsoever the people conceal, Allah will know it. He said: Gabriel came to me when you saw me. He called me and he concealed it from you. I responded to his call, but I too concealed it from you (for he did not come to you), as you were not fully dressed. I thought that you had gone to sleep, and I did not like to awaken you, fearing that you may be frightened. He (Gabriel) said: Your Lord has commanded you to go to the inhabitants of Baqi' (to those lying in the graves) and beg pardon for them. I said: Messenger of Allah, how should I pray for them (How should I beg forgiveness for them)? He said: Say, Peace be upon the inhabitants of this city (graveyard) from among the Believers and the Muslims, and may Allah have mercy on those who have gone ahead of us, and those who come later on, and we shall, God willing, join you. [/b] Muslim, Book 009, Number 3506: Jabir b. 'Abdullah reported: Abu Bakr came and sought permission to see Allah's Messenger. He found people sitting at his door and none amongst them had been granted permission, but it was granted to Abu Bakr and he went in. Then came 'Umar and he sought permission and it was granted to him, and he found Allah's Apostle sitting sad and silent with his wives around him. He (Hadrat 'Umar) said: I would say something which would make the Holy Prophet laugh, so he said: Messenger of Allah, I wish you had seen (the treatment meted out to) the daughter of Khadija when you asked me some money, and I got up and slapped her on her neck. Allah's Messenger laughed and said: They are around me as you see, asking for extra money. Abu Bakr then got up went to 'A'isha and slapped her on the neck, and 'Umar stood up before Hafsa and slapped her saying: You ask Allah's Messenger which he does not possess. They said: By Allah, we do not ask Allah's Messenger for anything he does not possess. Then he withdrew from them for a month or for twenty-nine days. Then this verse was revealed to him:" Prophet: Say to thy wives... for a mighty reward" (xxxiii. 28). He then went first to 'A'isha and said: I want to propound something to you, 'A'isha, but wish no hasty reply before you consult your parents. She said: Messenger of Allah, what is that? He (the Holy Prophet) recited to her the verse, whereupon she said: Is it about you that I should consult my parents, Messenger of Allah? Nay, I choose Allah, His Messenger, and the Last Abode; but I ask you not to tell any of your wives what I have said He replied: Not one of them will ask me without my informing her. God did not send me to be harsh, or cause harm, but He has sent me to teach and make things easy. The messenger of Allah advising a woman not to marry a wife beater: Muslim, Book 009, Number 3526: Fatima bint Qais reported that her husband divorced her with three, pronouncements and Allah's Messenger made no provision for her lodging and maintenance allowance. She (further said): Allah's Messenger said to me: When your period of 'Idda is over, inform me. So I informed him. (By that time) Mu'awiya, Abu Jahm and Usama b. Zaid had given her the proposal of marriage. Allah's Messenger said: So far as Mu'awiya is concerned, he is a poor man without any property. So far as Abu Jahm is concerned, he is a great beater of women, but Usama b. Zaid. she pointed with her hand (that she did not approve of the idea of marrying) Usama. But Allah's Messenger said: Obedience to Allah and obedience to His Messenger is better for thee. She said: So I married him, and I became an object of envy. Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 82, Number 828: Narrated Aisha: Abu Bakr came to towards me and struck me violently with his fist and said, "You have detained the people because of your necklace." But I remained motionless as if I was dead lest I should awake Allah's Apostle although that hit was very painful. Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 132: Narrated 'Abdullah bin Zam'a: The Prophet said, "None of you should flog his wife as he flogs a slave and then have sexual intercourse with her in the last part of the day." Abu Dawud, Book 1, Number 0142: Narrated Laqit ibn Sabirah: I (the narrator Laqit) then said: Messenger of Allah, I have a wife who has something (wrong) in her tongue, i.e. she is insolent. He said: Then divorce her. I said: Messenger of Allah, she had company with me and I have children from her. He said: Then ask her (to obey you). If there is something good in her, she will do so (obey); and do not beat your wife as you beat your slave-girl. Hadith quoted in Imam Ghazzali's Ihya Ulum-Id-Din, Marriage section: “The most perfect of believers in faith are those who are the finest in manners and most gentle toward their wives.” Narrated by al-Tirmidhi (3895) and Ibn Majaah (1977), also quoted in Imam Ghazzali's Ihya Ulum-Id-Din, Marriage section: "The best of you is the one who is best to his wife, and I am the best of you to my wives." Finally, may the curse of Allah be upon those that lie against Allah and his messenger. 1 Like |
Re: Is Islam A Religion Of Violence? by najib632(m): 7:26pm On Oct 18, 2019 |
Another dose for you shaytans ally @true2god, after the death of the messenger of Allah S.A.W. and Abubakar R.A. Look at how Umar that was seeking permisssion to beat his wife became: Dhahabi, the great scholar, narrates how Hz. Umar, whom we know to have a stern temper and who got the permission to beat women from the Prophet (pbuh) in person, acts regarding the issue according to a weak narration as follows: During the caliphate of Hz. Umar, a man went to the house of the caliph to complain to him about his wife, whose acts he did not like. He sat in front of the door and waited for Hz. Umar to come out. Just then, he heard a noise. Hz. Umar's wife started to shout at the caliph but Hz. Umar kept silent. When the poor man heard it, he thought, "If that is the case with Umar, the leader of the believers, who is famous for his uprightness and toughness, how can he find a solution to my problem?" Just as he was leaving, Hz. Umar came out and called out: "What is the matter? What do you want?" The man replied, "O leader of the believers! I came to complain to you about my wife’s bad-temper and her disrespect to me. Then, I heard your wife uttering harsh words to you; so, I gave up the idea of complaining and returned. I said to myself, ‘If that is the situation of the leader of the believers, how can he find a solution to my problem?" Thereupon, Hz. Umar said to the man, "O my brother! I put up with her because of her rights over me. She cooks my food, bakes my bread, washes my clothes, breast-feeds my child… and yet none of them is her duty; and then she is a comfort to my heart and keeps me away from forbidden deeds. Therefore, I put up with what she does." When the man heard this, he said, "O leader of the believers! It is the same with my wife." Thereupon, Hz. Umar consoled the man by saying, "Then, O my brother! Be patient with her, indeed this life is short!" (Dhahabai, al-Kabair, p. 179) 1 Like |
Re: Is Islam A Religion Of Violence? by Solohmony: 9:41pm On Oct 23, 2019 |
To start with there is no perfect interpretation. Anybody can interpret any text based on person' belief or opinion. That is why Islamic terrorists will said that peaceful Muslims are not real Muslims while peaceful Muslims we called them non muslims. Quran is open to many interpretations that is why there are many sects in Islam. Thank you. |
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