andrew444:


Agreed

So keshi never knew who was otigba?

To be sincere i was surprised he wasnt called up then thou, but a certain odunlami egwuekwe who was no where near him was taken to the confederation cup

many a time bro...
you see bash indigenous coaches here.... it is not because I just hate them...oooh.
I have been following the super eagles since 2002 world cup in Japan/Korea....

indigenous coaches are one set of the most corrupt coaches you can ever find around.

sentiments and fraud players selection is something else...
just take a look at Imama foreign players selection the last time for the under 23....

this men only think of their pockets.

I'm dissapointed a lil bit about Tomori tho, but nothing spoil.... Now they should get some minute so that the season film can end...


And I watched ebere Eze play the other day, maybe cuz I was busy and not fully focused on the match, but I didn't see any spectacular player, just a normal decent lad...

Humility017:


many a time bro...
you see bash indigenous coaches here.... it is not because I just hate them...oooh.
I have been following the super eagles since 2002 world cup in Japan/Korea....

indigenous coaches are one set of the most corrupt coaches you can ever find around.

sentiments and fraud players selection is something else...
just take a look at Imama foreign players selection the last time for the under 23....

this men only think of their pockets.

Lol

You said the truth bro

Why are people taking Tomori's decision badly?
Ajayi was being celebrated as a good centre back, on goal scoring streak in the championship where Tomori played just a few months ago.

If indeed Ajayi is as good as the hype, why are you guys saying we don't have good centre back options in addition to Ekong, Omeruo, Awaziem.
Either these guys are good or people have been speaking with both sides of their mouth.

The words of Rohr on Bukayo Saka

” On Bukayo Saka of Arsenal, it is not easy to invite players who has already played for England or other countries in the U17, U19 or U20 categories. It is very tedious and requires long processes to do so. I could remember that it took us one year before Ola Aina’s issue was resolved before he was cleared by FIFA and way eligible to play for Super Eagles “.

jihday:
Her real name is Ebelechukwu I think

So because of Bahrain $$$ and the loss of hope in her own country she has changed nationality and possibly even religion.

Can't our leaders see that they are making our young people loose hope in thier nation.

tbaba1234:


Of all the players that came to the super eagles camp, he is the last one standing.

Akpom's switch is been processed so he should get an invite once it is complete.

What does Chuba have to offer.

Not impressed one bit.

Danielnino00:


All 4 members of the Bahrain mixed relay team are Nigerians.. ironically,they all participated in some athletic competitions in Nigeria before moving abroad...there's a Lady representing Italy at the world championship,she's Nigerian too..

there's sport talents scattered across the country..we just don't have the infrastructure, both physical and administrative to develop them...sadly its the same for virtually every sector of the country

I CRY FOR MY COUNTRY.

We have made people HOPELESS then deprived of the basics of life they have become DEPRAVED look at changing nationally and religion.

Is Nigeria that bad , l am confused.

Now that Fikayo and Tammy have moved on, please can we cap this issue and move on too!

England coach Gareth Southgate has refused to guarantee that he will hand competitive debuts to Chelsea duo Tammy Abraham and Fikayo Tomori when the Three Lions face Czech Republic (Oct 11) and Bulgaria (Oct 14) in European Championship qualifiers this month.

The two young stars qualify to play for the Super Eagles and the Nigeria Football Federation have attempted to convince both to pledge their allegiance to the three-time African champions without success.

Obviously, if Abraham and Tomori feature in any of the two Euro qualifiers, that would mean they'll definitely be England players going forward.

Southgate has revealed that it is morally wrong to cap-tie both players just to prevent them from representing Nigeria.

Speaking to reporters after his squad announcement on Thursday, Southgate said on Abraham : ''I haven't discussed it with him, I have left Frank to have the conversation to let him know he's in the squad which is always nice for a club manager to be able to do.

''We have got literally close to hundreds of players now in our system with dual nationality so I don't think it is ethically right just to give a player a cap to make sure they can't play for somebody else.''

Southgate stressed that Abraham and Tomori are homegrown talents and their allegiance is with England despite being eligible to turn out for Nigeria.

He added : ''The two boys Fik and Tammy are in the squad this time on merit.

''I am not going to guarantee that they are going to get on the pitch but they have been part of our junior system, Fik came a little bit later than Tammy but he's been part of the youth team that won the World Cup.

''As far as we are concerned, the two boys have been developed through English football.

''They are English players and I'm sure they have huge desire to play for England at senior level''.

@bolded... Talk talk talk... He is just talking. The reality is that is just what they are about to do. Capping them to prevent them from playing for another nation. Fact! So if it is ethnically wrong, what stops him from not inviting at all? Abeg Southgate should face front. We know what they wanna do. Let them do it and not act saintly.

charlesemeka85:
England coach Gareth Southgate has refused to guarantee that he will hand competitive debuts to Chelsea duo Tammy Abraham and Fikayo Tomori when the Three Lions face Czech Republic (Oct 11) and Bulgaria (Oct 14) in European Championship qualifiers this month.

The two young stars qualify to play for the Super Eagles and the Nigeria Football Federation have attempted to convince both to pledge their allegiance to the three-time African champions without success.

Obviously, if Abraham and Tomori feature in any of the two Euro qualifiers, that would mean they'll definitely be England players going forward.

Southgate has revealed that it is morally wrong to cap-tie both players just to prevent them from representing Nigeria.

Speaking to reporters after his squad announcement on Thursday, Southgate said on Abraham : ''I haven't discussed it with him, I have left Frank to have the conversation to let him know he's in the squad which is always nice for a club manager to be able to do.

''We have got literally close to hundreds of players now in our system with dual nationality so I don't think it is ethically right just to give a player a cap to make sure they can't play for somebody else.''

Southgate stressed that Abraham and Tomori are homegrown talents and their allegiance is with England despite being eligible to turn out for Nigeria.

He added : ''The two boys Fik and Tammy are in the squad this time on merit.

''I am not going to guarantee that they are going to get on the pitch but they have been part of our junior system, Fik came a little bit later than Tammy but he's been part of the youth team that won the World Cup.

''As far as we are concerned, the two boys have been developed through English football.

''They are English players and I'm sure they have huge desire to play for England at senior level''.

Friends, Countrymen, nairalanders....

On Tammy Abraham and Fikayo Tomori

Finally, we can all rest from the unnecessary comparison, to cap or not to cap talk. I have watched from the sidelines how people fought each other, throwing jabs left, right and center. Can we now tell ourselves the blatant truth?
First up, it is time we stopped this chasing of Foreign born players and develop our own who understand our philosophy. Personally, i feel it is a shame on us as far as Nigeria is concerned. Those who are old enough to know in this group will remember players like John and Justin Fashanu who could have played for Nigeria but refused only to regret it later. The list goes on. Bottomline is the decision to play for another country rests with these players as it were. There is no reason to go moaning or insulting people just because Tammy or Tomori refused to play for Eagles.

What i find annoying is having to make these Foreign borns into what they are not. And that is elevating them beyond our own home groomed players. While i will not blame anyone who thinks otherwise, the truth is we need to look ourselves in the mirror and ask why we keep waiting for other nations to give us finished articles. Oh gosh now it all makes sense. Actually what does Nigeria produce? All we do is consume. We produce oil, export it and then import the refined products cos we are too corrupt to have functioning refineries.

We want things and we want it now. Unfortunately the societies that the Europeans and the west built were built decades ago. The systems they have working for them were built years ago. We on the other hand just like to take.... reap where we did not sow, have sense of entitlement. We get into government and forget the reason we went in there was to serve people. Everyone wants to look good at all costs. I beta pass you syndrome eating into the very fabric of our society.

What happened to us copying standards that actually work ? Have a proper system that monitors development. If it were up to me, I would shut down the NPFL for 2 years. Do restructuring and lay off all players over 22 yrs of age. But alas! Some people are gona be jobless with such an excercise (mostly players). Not to mention infrastructural issues. No facilities. Yall gonna ask so whats my point?

Well here it is.... it 's time we got our bloody s#it together unless of course we believe we are a lost cause.

On foreign borns, those who will not want to play for Naija, we wish them all the best. What we need in the Super Eagles are players ready to bleed green white green. Players who are passionate about Nigeria. We dont want players that want to come and look good or make us as plan B. We dont want Social media players who try to force the hand of a federation. As for Abraham and Tomori... I wish em the best. Hopefully they get 50caps for England. But enough is enough with international embarrassments and monumental disgrace. We are Naija! We get pride too. Na so e be!

Super Eagles coach Gernot Rohr has admitted it would be difficult to invite Arsenal rising star Bukayo Saka to the national team because he has competitive caps for England's youth teams.

The Hale End Academy product was there for the taking until he became provisionally cap-tied to England after featuring for the Young Lions at the 2018 UEFA European Under-17 Championship and has also played competitively for the U19 squad.

It took a long while before former England youth internationals Ola Aina, Victor Moses and Sammy Ameobi were able to switch nationalities, and Rohr fears Saka would suffer the same fate if he decides to play for Nigeria.

The Nigeria Football Federation have attempted to woo Chelsea duo Tammy Abraham and Fikayo Tomori and the English Football Association quickly stopped them in their tracks by handing call-ups to the Chelsea duo for the upcoming European Championship qualifiers against Czech Republic and Bulgaria.

''On Bukayo Saka of Arsenal, it is not easy to invite players who has played already for England or other countries in the U-17, U-18 and U-20 categories,'' Rohr explained to Sporting Life Nigeria.

''It is very tedious and requires long processes to do so. I could remember that it took us one year before Ola Aina’s issue was resolved before he was cleared by FIFA and was eligible to play for us.''

The 18-year-old Saka has played eight games for Arsenal's first team since his debut in November 2018, scoring once and providing three assists.

komekn:
Following on to the subject raised by Kog45 i.e. the rota in our football and Athletics, etc.

A lady has just won the 400 metre race running the third fastest time in history. Her name is Salwa Eid Naser.

Before you say wheaten concern us this lady was born in Anambra state. But has changed name and nationality to represent Bahrain.

Formerly known as Ebelechukwu Agbapuonwu

I see nothing wrong in approaching these kids and it's inevitable that we will never have them all. Reaching out to them doesn't hinder the progression of our league and player from the home front.

Other countries are tapping to the practice whereas fortifying their various teams so I see no reason why we can't do same.

I'm against begging any player to play for us but fully in support of reaching out to them and get those who are willing to dorn the national colors and as well fortify the team.


Lets forget about pride and sentiment. France planned having only white and indigenious French kids in from their youth set up which was backed by ex man utd defender blac but to their surprise the most talented kids in majority of French academies are sons and daughters of immigrants most especially from Africa.

If racist Europeans can hide their hate of the black race by fighting to have the best professionals out of our race in various sectors in their country in a bid to improve and do better I see no reason we should be filled with pride when reaching out to those we know can improve us.


No matter how we mourn and cry Tammy and fik are gone but that won't stop the future integration of euro born kids who re willing to feature for us.


Also no need to be scared cus kids groomed in 9ja are still the majority in the team and the emergence of euro born kids won't hinder the inclusion of locally groomed kids.

The selection method is an open one so it's left for both sides to work hard to get a deserved chance in the team

kennysville:
Friends, Countrymen, nairalanders....

On Tammy Abraham and Fikayo Tomori

Finally, we can all rest from the unnecessary comparison, to cap or not to cap talk. I have watched from the sidelines how people fought each other, throwing jabs left, right and center. Can we now tell ourselves the blatant truth?
First up, it is time we stopped this chasing of Foreign born players and develop our own who understand our philosophy. Personally, i feel it is a shame on us as far as Nigeria is concerned. Those who are old enough to know in this group will remember players like John and Justin Fashanu who could have played for Nigeria but refused only to regret it later. The list goes on. Bottomline is the decision to play for another country rests with these players as it were. There is no reason to go moaning or insulting people just because Tammy or Tomori refused to play for Eagles.

What i find annoying is having to make these Foreign borns into what they are not. And that is elevating them beyond our own home groomed players. While i will not blame anyone who thinks otherwise, the truth is we need to look ourselves in the mirror and ask why we keep waiting for other nations to give us finished articles. Oh gosh now it all makes sense. Actually what does Nigeria produce? All we do is consume. We produce oil, export it and then import the refined products cos we are too corrupt to have functioning refineries.

We want things and we want it now. Unfortunately the societies that the Europeans and the west built were built decades ago. The systems they have working for them were built years ago. We on the other hand just like to take.... reap where we did not sow, have sense of entitlement. We get into government and forget the reason we went in there was to serve people. Everyone wants to look good at all costs. I beta pass you syndrome eating into the very fabric of our society.

What happened to us copying standards that actually work ? Have a proper system that monitors development. If it were up to me, I would shut down the NPFL for 2 years. Do restructuring and lay off all players over 22 yrs of age. But alas! Some people are gona be jobless with such an excercise (mostly players). Not to mention infrastructural issues. No facilities. Yall gonna ask so whats my point?

Well here it is.... it 's time we got our bloody s#it together unless of course we believe we are a lost cause.

On foreign borns, those who will not want to play for Naija, we wish them all the best. What we need in the Super Eagles are players ready to bleed green white green. Players who are passionate about Nigeria. We dont want players that want to come and look good or make us as plan B. We dont want Social media players who try to force the hand of a federation. As for Abraham and Tomori... I wish em the best. Hopefully they get 50caps for England. But enough is enough with international embarrassments and monumental disgrace. We are Naija! We get pride too. Na so e be!

quality post

charlesemeka85:
I see nothing wrong in approaching these kids and it's inevitable that we will never have them all. Reaching out to them doesn't hinder the progression of our league and player from the home front.

Other countries are tapping to the practice whereas fortifying their various teams so I see no reason why we can't do same.

I'm against begging any player to play for us but fully in support of reaching out to them and get those who are willing to dorn the national colors and as well fortify the team.


Lets forget about pride and sentiment. France planned having only white and indigenious French kids in from their youth set up which was backed by ex man utd defender blac but to their surprise the most talented kids in majority of French academies are sons and daughters of immigrants most especially from Africa.

If racist Europeans can hide their hate of the black race by fighting to have the best professionals out of our race in various sectors in their country in a bid to improve and do better I see no reason we should be filled with pride when reaching out to those we know can improve us.


No matter how we mourn and cry Tammy and fik are gone but that won't stop the future integration of euro born kids who re willing to feature for us.


Also no need to be scared cus kids groomed in 9ja are still the majority in the team and the emergence of euro born kids won't hinder the inclusion of locally groomed kids.

The selection method is an open so it left for both sides to work hard to get a chance

"a whole me" syndrome in the biggest issue we Nigerians have and it hv destroyed so many. Let's be objective by listening to our heads rather than our hearts

TheSuperNerd:
@bolded... Talk talk talk... He is just talking. The reality is that is just what they are about to do. Capping them to prevent them from playing for another nation. Fact! So if it is ethnically wrong, what stops him from not inviting at all? Abeg Southgate should face front. We know what they wanna do. Let them do it and not act saintly.

Something tells me Southgate is a good man, but certain forces want him to do what we all fear might befall Tam and Tomori cap them and the cycle continues.

it's sad really and it's been happening for some years now. current president of the nigeria amateur wrestling federation daniel igali once wrestled and won olympic gold for canada even though he was groomed here in nigeria. same for former nigeria track athlete francis obikwelu who switched nationality and went on to rep portugal

brain drain in every sector

komekn:


I CRY FOR MY COUNTRY.

We have made people HOPELESS then deprived of the basics of life they have become DEPRAVED look at changing nationally and religion.

Is Nigeria that bad , l am confused.

sad news God comfort his family

edi287:
Did anyone post about this earlier?? This is so sad!! Dude was just 32...#ripissacpromise.

That's just the truth. Tammy and fik haven't done enough to deserve a chance in the English team and I foresee them don't having a long career in the team as well.

The plan is just to cap and hold onto them that's all. All the same I wish them the best.

KpagoGIN:

Something tells me Southgate is a good man, but certain forces want him to do what we all fear might befall Tam and Tomori cap them and the cycle continues.

not just otigba. Aluko and Ajagun (lol yes him) were doing decently well around that period but were inexplicably ignored

tbaba1234:


Otigba rejected an invite to play for Hungary waiting for Nigeria. It is not as if we had quality defenders at that time. Egwuekwe and co... He was playing regularly in Holland. At least, he could have been tested in a friendly.

Starboytwo:
I'm dissapointed a lil bit about Tomori tho, but nothing spoil.... Now they should get some minute so that the season film can end...


And I watched ebere Eze play the other day, maybe cuz I was busy and not fully focused on the match, but I didn't see any spectacular player, just a normal decent lad...

Same thing with me bro. It was the first time I was watching him outside YouTube clips. He kept losing balls and making wrong passes. Well, to those who have been watching him regularly, I hope it was just a one-off thing sha-o 'cause I've been blowing the guy's trumpet to friends based on reports I've been getting on this thread.

And so many who won't understand their decision will tag them unpatriotic.

chrisooblog:
it's sad really and it's been happening for some years now. current president of the nigeria amateur wrestling federation daniel igali once wrestled and won olympic gold for canada even though he was groomed here in nigeria. same for former nigeria track athlete francis obikwelu who switched nationality and went on to rep portugal

brain drain in every sector

charlesemeka85:
And so many who won't understand their decision will tag them unpatriotic.

Technically bro, it is unpatriotism, we don't have to sugar coat it and in some serious countries like China and a former communist Russia, it is a big offense.
However, from the moral point of view, we can say that they are just hustlers trying to make ends meet, at least they didn't kill anybody

I have watch Eze play few time and must confess that he still have more to do which is the reason i don't really clamor much for his immediate inclusion in the team.

He has good technical qualities but seem weak mentally and as well with low work rate but I believe he will get better with time. I am not against capping him any time soon but to be honest he really need to do more to get that chance most especially his work rate

ThanosKilla:

Same thing with me bro. It was the first time I was watching him outside YouTube clips. He kept losing balls and making wrong passes. Well, to those who have been watching him regularly, I hope it was just a one-off thing sha-o 'cause I've been blowing the guy's trumpet to friends based on reports I've been getting on this thread.

i think based on current form the duo are deserving. Tammy is the highest goal scoring english man so far this season while Tomori has really been impressive so far plus is it stones and maguire he won't be able to compete with? like supernerd i also suspect it's just a cynical move on the part of england to block whatever chance of them playing for us but at the end of the day the boys have made their choice let's just respect it wish them well and move to other pressing issues

charlesemeka85:
That's just the truth. Tammy and fik haven't done enough to deserve a chance in the English team and I foresee them don't having a long career in the team as well.

The plan is just to cap and hold onto them that's all. All the same I wish them the best.

charlesemeka85:
That's just the truth. Tammy and fik haven't done enough to deserve a chance in the English team and I foresee them don't having a long career in the team as well.

The plan is just to cap and hold onto them that's all. All the same I wish them the best.

Tammy Abraham is the second highest goalscorer in EPL and Tomori has posted eye catching performances in a club like Chelsea

Forget that thing

I bet you that if not for the pressure from Nigeria both won't have called up. Tomori hv been impressive but not better than other English CBs.tammy was likely to be called up because of his scoring form and also England's lack of quality number 9 at the moment. Aside Kane and off form Rashford, Tammy should be the next in line.

chrisooblog:
i think based on current form the duo are deserving. Tammy is the highest goal scoring english man so far this season while Tomori has really been impressive so far plus is it stones and maguire he won't be able to compete with? like supernerd i also suspect it's just a cynical move on the part of england to block whatever chance of them playing for us but at the end of the day the boys have made their choice let's just respect it wish them well and move to other pressing issues

kennysville:
Friends, Countrymen, nairalanders....

On Tammy Abraham and Fikayo Tomori

Finally, we can all rest from the unnecessary comparison, to cap or not to cap talk. I have watched from the sidelines how people fought each other, throwing jabs left, right and center. Can we now tell ourselves the blatant truth?
First up, it is time we stopped this chasing of Foreign born players and develop our own who understand our philosophy. Personally, i feel it is a shame on us as far as Nigeria is concerned. Those who are old enough to know in this group will remember players like John and Justin Fashanu who could have played for Nigeria but refused only to regret it later. The list goes on. Bottomline is the decision to play for another country rests with these players as it were. There is no reason to go moaning or insulting people just because Tammy or Tomori refused to play for Eagles.

What i find annoying is having to make these Foreign borns into what they are not. And that is elevating them beyond our own home groomed players. While i will not blame anyone who thinks otherwise, the truth is we need to look ourselves in the mirror and ask why we keep waiting for other nations to give us finished articles. Oh gosh now it all makes sense. Actually what does Nigeria produce? All we do is consume. We produce oil, export it and then import the refined products cos we are too corrupt to have functioning refineries.

We want things and we want it now. Unfortunately the societies that the Europeans and the west built were built decades ago. The systems they have working for them were built years ago. We on the other hand just like to take.... reap where we did not sow, have sense of entitlement. We get into government and forget the reason we went in there was to serve people. Everyone wants to look good at all costs. I beta pass you syndrome eating into the very fabric of our society.

What happened to us copying standards that actually work ? Have a proper system that monitors development. If it were up to me, I would shut down the NPFL for 2 years. Do restructuring and lay off all players over 22 yrs of age. But alas! Some people are gona be jobless with such an excercise (mostly players). Not to mention infrastructural issues. No facilities. Yall gonna ask so whats my point?

Well here it is.... it 's time we got our bloody s#it together unless of course we believe we are a lost cause.

On foreign borns, those who will not want to play for Naija, we wish them all the best. What we need in the Super Eagles are players ready to bleed green white green. Players who are passionate about Nigeria. We dont want players that want to come and look good or make us as plan B. We dont want Social media players who try to force the hand of a federation. As for Abraham and Tomori... I wish em the best. Hopefully they get 50caps for England. But enough is with international embarrassments and monumental disgrace. We are Naija! We get pride too. Na so e be!t

You talk better word. But who wan listen? Even our clueless President wouldn't read what you wrote if it's printed on a 100ft X 100ft banner and he fell on it.

Solanke dey craze... No do a "Tammy" on us.

Tomori and Tammy have agreed to a new 5 year deal.
Coincidence?? I think not...