Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Rebecca08: 2:10pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
Hotstepper:
Congratulations on your pregnancy.
1. You will have to log into Canada immigration website and fill the application form online or you do paper one.
2. You will need to search for Dr that takes international patient if you want to apply for a medical visa.
3. Gather your documents and apply
I hope this helps
Thank you for your response @Hotstepper.
Does Canada issue a medical visa on the ground of pregnancy? I thought it’s usually visitor’s visa, then stating birthing as purpose. I don’t know if I am correct �♀️
Please do you know of any Dr. who can accept international patient for the purpose of birthing?
Thank you for your support.
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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Nobody: 2:35pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
Seem easy but not so easy The deal you are already in Canada Some of this doctors don’t have an email,they only provide their contact numbers on the website . Majority don’t pick once it’s a Nigerian number ..it’s very easy for you to contact a doctor if you are already in Canada not we that we are trying to get correspondence to submit for visa application. We keep pushing tho..we will get it right regardless Bluefin: This is the best way to search for hospital/Dr for those asking. Google hospitals in the province that you want to deliver. Check on the différent websites of the hospital. There is a section that has find a physician Select OBYGYN/Maternal/new born care Most hospitals will have the names of all physicians in that department and should say yes or no if accepting patients. If accepting patients, google the doctor to find their office. Email the doctors office and let them know you are an international patient and need to find out what the doctors registration process is You can also call but email is more effective. They will send you a brochure for the hospital that will have all the information you need or tell they do not accept non Canadian residents. Keep searching until you find someone that is interested in cash paying international patients. Another very fast way if you dont really care about gender or qualification of doctor is to reach out to the international patients email(usually stated on the hospitals website) they will reply you with brochure.
During my research and doctors choice, i was lucky that the first doctor i contacted did not mind accepting me and luckily i was in canada at the time so i went it for my first trimester appointment ( I am a US Citizen) but currently on a work project in the GTA area and want to get Canadian passport so the baby can have both US and Canada.
Look at hospitals that are outside Toronto because i noticed that the two main hospitals i liked inside Toronto clearly stated on their website that they do not take non Canadian residents for maternal treatment. One thing to note is that there is a list of compulsory tests for Ontario pregnant ladies- Just google it if your doctors office doesn't send it in the package and come with those tests so you are less risk for a doctor who wants to take you on and that you dont waste money extra on doing the tests.
Please note that i will not be sharing my doctor until i deliver because she knows i am her first cash paying patient and it will just be obvious. Happy to share hospital if moderator allows. You can google it and contact international patients billing. They will send everything. I was told that i can see the same doctor for my tests and exams, but once i go into labor i will be seen by whichever doctor in the practice is on call but that doctor will have access to my medical records since all the doctors are in the same network.
-Hospital Deposit- $7800. They will return any unused amount to you. -Mother per night $2900 (private) (a night is anything above 8 hours after initial visit) There are cheaper options like ward, semi private etc -Baby per night/Nursery $1,300 -ICU- $3600 -Doctors Fee- $4200 -Hospital Location, Richmond Hill, ON
PS: The doctor has a $200 initial consultation fee, second visit is 100 and i then $80 per visit after that. None of all these fees include any tests or laboratory fees, surgical, anesthetic, assistant Pediatrician or NICU fees. Doctor is in Thornhill, ON
You must submit a hospital package (form), register and make all deposits prior to 35 weeks so i am assuming they wont accept patients beyond this week.
Please do not send me any personal message. If you have any question, bring it here and I will answer. My birth window is Feb/March and if there is anybody that is in this window and wants to go on the journey together and network, please feel free and we can all make this thread useful. I will be on a project in the middle east between Mid-October and December and iIwill go to Canada finally in my 34th week.
For accommodation, i will be staying at Premier (i selected markham on the site or Mary-am, i selected markham also). Google them and book a stay in the area you want. They will respond within 24 hours to let you know you are booked but cannot be confirmed till 2-3 weeks before your estimated stay.
Please i truly dont know anything about visa application. This is what i can share/ give back for now.
If there is anybody that has process for Long Birth Certificate and Passport application. God bless you as you share.
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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Nobody: 3:17pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Hotstepper(f): 4:20pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
Thank you for sharing. Without looking down to see the bill breakdown, I already knew it is McKenzie Health at Richmondhill. I also do not think the dr would mind even if though you are her 1st patient cuz Nigerians will tell u even the drs fee is high. lol It is hard to find dr that takea international patients nd if u get to find one, they prefer patients who are in Canada already and it is almost impossible to find a dr that will give u some kind correspondence, this I feel they do not want theit name in visa applications and all. May u tell us the namea of the hospitals u likes in Toronto? If u r willing to change nd still here to walk in, he charges 3500 for all visits before and after cuz I can see ur own dr is on the high side plus the consultation fee nd all. Bluefin: This is the best way to search for hospital/Dr for those asking. Google hospitals in the province that you want to deliver. Check on the différent websites of the hospital. There is a section that has find a physician Select OBYGYN/Maternal/new born care Most hospitals will have the names of all physicians in that department and should say yes or no if accepting patients. If accepting patients, google the doctor to find their office. Email the doctors office and let them know you are an international patient and need to find out what the doctors registration process is You can also call but email is more effective. They will send you a brochure for the hospital that will have all the information you need or tell they do not accept non Canadian residents. Keep searching until you find someone that is interested in cash paying international patients. Another very fast way if you dont really care about gender or qualification of doctor is to reach out to the international patients email(usually stated on the hospitals website) they will reply you with brochure.
During my research and doctors choice, i was lucky that the first doctor i contacted did not mind accepting me and luckily i was in canada at the time so i went it for my first trimester appointment ( I am a US Citizen) but currently on a work project in the GTA area and want to get Canadian passport so the baby can have both US and Canada.
Look at hospitals that are outside Toronto because i noticed that the two main hospitals i liked inside Toronto clearly stated on their website that they do not take non Canadian residents for maternal treatment. One thing to note is that there is a list of compulsory tests for Ontario pregnant ladies- Just google it if your doctors office doesn't send it in the package and come with those tests so you are less risk for a doctor who wants to take you on and that you dont waste money extra on doing the tests.
Please note that i will not be sharing my doctor until i deliver because she knows i am her first cash paying patient and it will just be obvious. Happy to share hospital if moderator allows. You can google it and contact international patients billing. They will send everything. I was told that i can see the same doctor for my tests and exams, but once i go into labor i will be seen by whichever doctor in the practice is on call but that doctor will have access to my medical records since all the doctors are in the same network.
-Hospital Deposit- $7800. They will return any unused amount to you. -Mother per night $2900 (private) (a night is anything above 8 hours after initial visit) There are cheaper options like ward, semi private etc -Baby per night/Nursery $1,300 -ICU- $3600 -Doctors Fee- $4200 -Hospital Location, Richmond Hill, ON
PS: The doctor has a $200 initial consultation fee, second visit is 100 and i then $80 per visit after that. None of all these fees include any tests or laboratory fees, surgical, anesthetic, assistant Pediatrician or NICU fees. Doctor is in Thornhill, ON
You must submit a hospital package (form), register and make all deposits prior to 35 weeks so i am assuming they wont accept patients beyond this week.
Please do not send me any personal message. If you have any question, bring it here and I will answer. My birth window is Feb/March and if there is anybody that is in this window and wants to go on the journey together and network, please feel free and we can all make this thread useful. I will be on a project in the middle east between Mid-October and December and iIwill go to Canada finally in my 34th week.
For accommodation, i will be staying at Premier (i selected markham on the site or Mary-am, i selected markham also). Google them and book a stay in the area you want. They will respond within 24 hours to let you know you are booked but cannot be confirmed till 2-3 weeks before your estimated stay.
Please i truly dont know anything about visa application. This is what i can share/ give back for now.
If there is anybody that has process for Long Birth Certificate and Passport application. God bless you as you share.
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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Hotstepper(f): 4:22pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
Good u did alot of work which alot of our brothera and sisters do not want to do, just want tk be given to them. Bluefin: I was in canada when I scheduled my first appointment. I was outside canada when I found the doctor and sent them an email. I was also outside canada when they sent me the hospital brochure. Also like I explained, email is the best. Also I don’t think sharing your nationality matters when making enquiries. Just say international patient cash paying patients. Once they see nigeria on an email they assume some scam is about to happen.
With the information I provided above. Google that hospital and contact the international patients billing( they also have a form) they will respond and what they give you u believe has all the information you can use to show correspondence. And financial ability. 2 Likes |
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Candybright: 4:27pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
Razi555: Giving birth 27 sep 2019 at Scarborough général hospital: 2800 Mother 1650 baby 250 lab Dr ko obgyn : 1500+200 Epidural :700 Total : 6950 Birthcertificate : 60 Photo : 15 Passport :167 Good luck Nice one. I told y'all that people are giving birth in Canada like steady. Please lets move this thread forward. Thank you for coming to give feedback. |
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Candybright: 4:36pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Nobody: 5:15pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
All this bill don enter 20k dolls abi na my eyes Hotstepper: Thank you for sharing. Without looking down to see the bill breakdown, I already knew it is McKenzie Health at Richmondhill. I also do not think the dr would mind even if though you are her 1st patient cuz Nigerians will tell u even the drs fee is high. lol
It is hard to find dr that takea international patients nd if u get to find one, they prefer patients who are in Canada already and it is almost impossible to find a dr that will give u some kind correspondence, this I feel they do not want theit name in visa applications and all.
May u tell us the namea of the hospitals u likes in Toronto? If u r willing to change nd still here to walk in, he charges 3500 for all visits before and after cuz I can see ur own dr is on the high side plus the consultation fee nd all.
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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Nobody: 5:17pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Lankesolanke: 5:28pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
All we need is time and patience to research this things..still going until I am able to find what’s best for me..I am hopeful 1 Like |
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Techhybabe: 5:42pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
I noticed most of the hospital in Calgary are under Alberta Health Services. Getting their email is difficult as they do not have a direct website, all I see is the main domain for Alberta. Phone numbers for each hospital is there though. But I would have love to mail them. Does anyone know an hospital with an affordable cost at Calgary? |
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Nobody: 6:15pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Lankesolanke: 6:19pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
Sure,will do so once I am done researching,will share names of hospitals that have emails too..willing to do all that..let me finish first sha Bluefin:
I think it is good for you to share the bills hospitals gave you that you think is high. That way others can know what to expect. Also when you may think it’s high but they are still reasonable enough. You can also use that communication to at least obtain a medical visa if you have enough finances to show you can pay that kind of bill.
Once you get your visa then you can continue your research and find an alternative hospital. As long as you have not made a continent to any hospital. |
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Nobody: 6:27pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Hotstepper(f): 6:30pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
Lol...well not really as some refund will.be given on not depending on long u r at the hospital etc Demicoker: All this bill don enter 20k dolls abi na my eyes |
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Hotstepper(f): 6:33pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
please if a hospital is giving you something like their bill.maybe via email, please let una try and use that hospital. I always tell ppl to look to shop for drs as hospital rate is standars for all but drs fees diff by each dr. Lankesolanke: Sure,will do so once I am done researching,will share names of hospitals that have emails too..willing to do all that..let me finish first sha 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Hotstepper(f): 6:34pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
People has been running from Calgary cuz it is btw 15 to 18k nf u know our ppl cant or wont wanna pay such Bluefin:
I think some moms here in the past years mentioned peter lougheed. Please search for it and contact them. Foothills Rocky view are also hospitals you van check. Hospitals were not responsive but you can search myiud women’s clinic- they work with rocky view and I believe they have cash paying options/uninsured patients even on their website.
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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Hotstepper(f): 6:36pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
If you want to use for visa processing, the embassg expects a breakdown of both dr nd hospital so both arw important at an initaly stage. BC is very expensive province nd I know someone who had a baby there last year paid 18k nd now she is preggy nd coming to GTA area Bluefin: The thing is I am already comfortable with the doctor and I don’t want to change. My dear you know how it is now..,. Also wanted a female OBygn so honestly it’s easier for me to just stick to her She just joined the Hospitals practice from another province this year so I’m her first non-resident. But there are several other doctors in the practice that I’m sure have rolled with non resident moms who have registered in the hospital. I promise to share my doctor after my delivery.
I think if you are outside canada, instead of looking for a doctor, look for a hospital that will accept international patients. This is the best thing. Hospital gives you everything you need. At least the package they gave me and the international agent assigned to me, we had lists of emails and if I needed a visa I could use that as my correspondence also please don’t look for the kind of correspondence US doctors give. I remember what my friends who came to have babies in New Jersey had last year and I doubt that any doctor in canada will give you such.
St Mikes said no to international maternity thinks he other one was sunny brook or something can’t remember, I think it was one vaughn I’ll have to look in my email.
I almost settled for British Columbia(Vancouver) because a lot of hospitals there are very open to international patients. A good example is providence health who even go ahead and list the possible accommodation places and give discount for this.international moms can consider BC because there is alot of birth tourism there and the province and doctors there are very open to non resident patients.
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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Hotstepper(f): 6:38pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
Yes ook but there r alot too who r do.not even know about NL that used agents so those ones will not comr here to give birth Candybright:
Nice one. I told y'all that people are giving birth in Canada like steady. Please lets move this thread forward. Thank you for coming to give feedback. |
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Lankesolanke: 9:32pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Nobody: 2:37am On Oct 05, 2019 |
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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Razi555: 4:16am On Oct 05, 2019 |
Hi. I gave birth to my baby one week ago. Can i apply for the passeport even if my husband isn t with me ? I Will apply in montreal |
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Hotstepper(f): 4:25am On Oct 05, 2019 |
Yea. When u submit the application form, u will be given a document no to.give your husband. He will take his international passport to canasian embassy to sign a document which will now be faxed bk to the passport office you applied at. Congratulations Razi555: Hi. I gave birth to my baby one week ago. Can i apply for the passeport even if my husband isn t with me ? I Will apply in montreal |
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Nobody: 6:24am On Oct 05, 2019 |
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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by earthrealm(m): 7:05am On Oct 05, 2019 |
Olalacious: UPDATE SO FAR ON MY JOURNEY
POE Got into Canada about 2 weeks ago. There was serious wind storm on that day so the waiting time at the airport wasn't funny at all as they could not unload our luggage from the aircraft until after 3 hours. That aside the POE wasnt automated as some people mentioned on this thread. It was only automated for PRs and Canadians. For non-residents, there was another queue where you are questioned on why you are in Canada and for how long. Thankfully mine went well as i already indicated during my application that i wanted to avail childbirth in Canada. The immigration officer pulled out the info from their system and said i was correct and he even thanked me and said he was happy that people still tell the truth that a lot of people still lie to their faces. He said there is no crime in coming for child birth as long as you tell the Visa officer and you have the required funds to cover the birth. Got stamped in and he wished me the best.
DOCTOR'S VISIT Finally had my first visit to the OBGYN i was referred to this week. Referral was done by a family physician from a walk in clinic. My advise is if you cant get an OBGYN by urself who accepts self pay patients, come into the country earlier and go into a walk in clinic to see a General physician who will then do the referral for you to several doctors. There will definitely be one who will take you. The only reason why it is good to look for the OBGYN yourself ahead of time is to make the referral and acceptance process easier and faster.
Family Physician consultation fee- $60 Had to do blood work and ultrasound which had to be sent to the OBGYN prior to my first visit to OBGYN Ultrasound- $182 Blood Work- $94 OBGYN First visit- $200 Subsequent Visit will be $100 per visit Doctors Delivery Fee (This varies from doctor to Doc Budget between 1600 and 2500 for VD) for doctors in Oshawa/Whitby Region
Hospital i will be using Lakeridge Health Ajax Pickering (Rouge Valley Ajax Pickering)
Hospital Charge $2000 for mother if in general ward (4 in a room) $2285 for private ward $100 bloodwork If Ultrasounds are required ($300)
$620 baby charge $100 bloodwork If xrays are reqd $300.
This is all the info i have so far for those who need approx cost. and guidance on the process.
Special thanks to "The Specialist" who assisted me on this process. I am grateful, you deserve plenty Accolades
PS: you can look up the OBGYNs who practice in the hospital above and give them a call if they will be willing to take self pay patient and ask for their price. Then once you come into Canada, the referral process becomes easy.
Waiting for my LO to arrive.
Sorry for the long story- just trying to help as much as possible.
Phhheew halfway tru..started from page 1, over 1wk and counting... I don tire...seems the thread isnt even moving much...was page 131 when i started, now page 133 1 Like |
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Hotstepper(f): 7:06am On Oct 05, 2019 |
I am sure it is the Canadian passport
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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by lami88: 8:36am On Oct 05, 2019 |
Lankesolanke: One of the hospitals I got said I would make a down payment of 5k dolls..how legit is that pls?? Will they refund if you don’t happen to use their hospital?? Or unable to get a visa They will refund you back. It even helps your visa appliaction if you show receipt that a down payment has been made as a prerequisite for the hospital uou intend to use. You see, canada embassy want to be sure you have made adequate preparation as regards the hospital and doctor you intend to use, that the hospital and doctor are expecting you upon arriavl, that you understand the cost of the charges involved in this services and you have adequate fund to cover it including emergencies. And you must also be able to show documentary evidence of this facts. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by lami88: 8:39am On Oct 05, 2019 |
Onbami: That's not true. My brother was given Visa without any travel history. He has never left Nigeria for anything. He applied for Canadian Visa and was given.
See as you just came and authoritatively said its not true because your brother got a visa without travel history. I didnt say you wont get, i said its very difficult. You people will just be replying without reading well. Anyway, i think @folmus has helped me convey the message better . 1 Like |
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Lankesolanke: 1:22pm On Oct 05, 2019 |
e Bluefin:
The deposit is not out of place. Did they say deposit as a condition to get a letter of acceptance from them for your visa application? Or they are saying to register with them is $5000. Tell them to send you estimated billing for normal uncomplicated pregnancy including physician fees. Once you have that you can apply for your visa with it. I think they are just letting you know the deposit if for registering.
Also maybe you don’t need to tell them it’s for visa application. Just say it’s for your documentation and planning purposes. Except they are asking specifically but most of them don’t want to even do any immigration related paper work. Because I know it’s a disclaimer in most emails they send to international patients |
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Hotstepper(f): 1:28pm On Oct 05, 2019 |
You will still.need some kind of drs appointment nd have an idea of dr's fee so.find one who can take int. patient associated.with the hospital od ur choice as hoapital nd dr r independent of eachother. Well done Lankesolanke: Not at all,it doesn’t say it’s for letter of acceptance ..they explained they accept International Patient,sent all the bills ..will ask them further questions where I don’t understand..I like the method tho..waiting for other responses before I settle for one |
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Lankesolanke: 1:49pm On Oct 05, 2019 |
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