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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:26pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
Joebie: Later most of them will accuse South Africa of xenophobia. What do we call this? 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:43pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
LaMujer: I know many Nigerian that as soon as they land Gatwick airport. They completely deny all things Nigerian. They put on a fake accent and spend night and day bashing Nigeria. They were born in Nigeria and were brought up in Nigeria but hate all things Nigerian. Unfortunately, l have seen this more in women than men. All the cultural norms and values that they revered and upheld over decades are dashed in minutes. They have become more oyibo than the Oyibos. Within months of arrival marriages of a decade is on the rocks. Then l meet Nigerian origin children here who speak Yoruba Or Igbo fluently and have not been to Nigeria yet. And uphold our values and norms. The question is what does it mean to be Nigerian or how do you define the Nigerian. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:51pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
Earthquake1: This is the problem with your proposition. I know a lot of Nigerian born current and ex SE players who all played in Europe all of them had dual citizenship. Some of them were pillars in the SE. So you are saying that all those players are NOT LOYAL 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 8:54pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
komekn: Blah blah blah, you are talking about pretense and people's lifestyle We are talking legality and identity, a person with one passport can pretend all he cares that doesn't change the fact that he is is totally Nigerian A foreign born can speak as much local language but at the end of the day he is a citizen of different countries and will choose with which to identify |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:54pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
Earthquake1: I have never once in all my posts here mentioned Philip. Why not because he is not Nigerian but he has no identity with Nigeria. I said that specifically about Ibe and Solanke. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 8:55pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
komekn: That was a hard deviate from my question, Is Tammy Abraham disloyal for choosing England over Nigeria since he is 'fully Nigerian'? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 8:56pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
komekn: Phillip Billing has a Nigerian parent, he is not different from Tammy |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 8:58pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
At the end of the day we give equal chances to those who have unequal opportunities |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:58pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
Earthquake1: I know governors and Chief Judges who have dual nationality. So after serving the country for many decades you think in your small mindedness that they have not IDENTIFIED with Nigeria. Look at yourself in the mirror then look in the dictionary for the word BIGOTRY that's you. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:59pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
edi287: Sad news. Na was ooo. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 9:03pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
komekn: Thank God you identified the keyword, since they have identified with and served Nigeria are they still qualified for an elective position in their second countries, since they are full citizens of two countries? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 9:03pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
u dey reason pple wey sentiment n emotion don becloud their reasoning? komekn: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:08pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
Philosopher1979: He plays in very well covered league although quite lowly in the context of Europe and a lower level team in the Eredivisie. If he is as good as you say he is he playing in the Eredivisie. He claims to be 21 and you are comparing him that just turned 18 last month that's causing waves and playing in the EPL for a top team. One word for you DELUSIONAL. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 9:09pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
komekn: You have unanswered questions |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:12pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
jihday:It is clear that few years from now, the Super Eagles will be dominated by foreign born players of Nigerian descent. It is their era. Now in Iwobi, Aina, Ekong, Balogun, Aribo they are trickling into the SE. Five years from now it is Nigerian born players that would be few in number. Those who detest foreign born players will have no choice but to surrender to the reality that will manifest then. As for me, I am a SE fan. I owe no allegiance to Nigerian born or foreign born players. Once you don the jersey and you proof your worth, you are my player. 11 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 9:17pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
Mujtahida: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 9:29pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
Rangers squad revealed as Joe Aribo in the mix for return against Hamilton 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 9:31pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
komekn: Put the word "overly" before that "DELUSIONAL". When I saw that post, I decided to check the moniker and I wasn't surprised. The post was as puerile as what we see people post on football threads on the front page of this forum. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 9:32pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
Danielnino00:You aren't getting the point, we must harness our own resources but that doesn't stop us from calling any foreign born that is good enough, you people are talking like we've filled our team with halfcaste players |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 9:35pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
Forgiveness still in shock. My man no gree comment again after Tomori shoved him and his Osun State deputy governor down a pit latrine like an over used tissue paper |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 9:37pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
Ain't you people tired of going front and back? Why cry over a split milk? Tammy and Tomori are gone and gone for good. That's their choice and we must respect that. This in no way makes them less or more Nigerian than they were. One thing we all know is that, everyday people make choices. Choice of where to settle down, choice of who to marry, choice of career path, choice of where to practice etc. These choices don't make them less human. We travel and migrate world over seeking happiness. We leave jobs, friends and sometime families but that doesn't stop us from recognizing/Affliating with those we've known in the course of our adventures. The only thing we can do as a nation to whoever is affiliated to us is to show LOVE and not PAMPER. Our mistake so far has been our way of approaching these lads. We make them feel too important and go begging with caps in our hands thinking that being emotional will sway them to our side and this is turning the whole country into a joke. Tammy and Tomori are not yet at Alaba's level yet dude regretted not waiting enough before joining the Austrian team. Fashanus, Nedum and Agbolahor chose the English side ahead of Nigeria and from experience have tried to offer the best of advice which is reasonable and acceptable for anyone to do. The consequence of the decision these guys made today will be seen and known tomorrow and they will face it all alone. We all hope things turn out the best for them. As for us. I will advise we move on,put our house in order and have a system that attracts these guys rather than begging and trying to reap where we didn't sow. Goodluck Tammy, Goodluck Tomori. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:43pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
Humility017:The truth is that football has changed so much. In the past all you needed was talent. Now football is a science. We are still frozen in the past and beyond the structural and infrastrctural problems bedevilling the local league, is the issue of lack of the touch of the finesse of modern football. I like the old football of Maradona, Baggio, Gullit, Carlos, Yekini just as some people here like our local players but once the time comes for a certain trend of change to take effect, our personal love or attachment to the old ways don't matter much. At last you either embrace change or like Okonkwo in Things fall Apart, you will be cast aside. The future of our football is in the hands of the foreign born players of Nigerian descent. They are the ones whose talent will have been honed by the science of modern football and therefore better equipped to carry the burden of representing Nigeria on the global stage. Nigerian born players will simply not be able to cope. 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:49pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
Mujtahida: Spot on |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 9:56pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
sentiment wont allow many to see this Mujtahida: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 10:05pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
Mujtahida: What a way of gathering all local born players and dumping them into the trash Our biggest potentials, Osimhen and Chukwueze are local born and trained if you must know 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:08pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
Earthquake1:Key word: future. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:11pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
Earthquake1: Osimhen and Chukwueze are coming in from the under 17 so they had the benefit of going to Europe at an early age. I mean true young age not football age. Most Nigerian players especially in the the local league would not get that opportunity of quality coaching early in their career. That is the point he is making. 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 10:16pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
Mujtahida: Exactly |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mank1234(m): 10:16pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
Mujtahida: If NFF can be taken over by foreign born it may be better too. I see more passion from the foreign born than the home grown players. So I pause and ponder: who is more patriotic? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 10:20pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
and this is the main reason scouts focus on players from our local academies and amateur clubs not recycled carpenters in npfl tbaba1234: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 10:23pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
AIG07: Exactly bro I made this point last month. We are crying....crying for what? We didn't put our house in order and our NFF ogas are in trial for corruption cases We underperformed in the WC 2018 and put up a NEPA-like performance at the just concluded AFCON. We are not in top 30 FIFA ranking and yet with all this things and so many others, we want to attract highly rated, English born and bred boys to the Super Eagles....haba, it can't work na. They've gone and gone for good. The lesson learnt here is that we shouldn't try to pressure any FB Nigerian to play for us before the Super Eagles loose respect. Its a decision everyone of them has to make on their own. SO that at least, we will know the truly patriotic ones |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:24pm On Oct 04, 2019 |
tbaba1234:Foreign born players are the FUTURE. I really don't understand the outcry by some against FB. Personally I don't think we should beg anyone to play for us. Once we make offer our hand and it is refused we move on. Like you said we gain some, we lose some but the fact is that they own the future of our football. Its only logical. One time the NT was completely dominated by players from our local league. Thereafter with the likes of Keshi, Okwaraji, Ohenhen, Etim Esin, our players began to find their way to Europe and the NT selection shifted. Small time, the NT was dominated by Nigerian born players playing abroad. Now guys we are on the cusp of a new transition. Like it or not, bewail the situation or celebrate it, doesn't matter. This is how it is most likely to be. |
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