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Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by selemempe: 9:23am On Oct 05, 2019
mcbreeze:


Sense eluded your type since.
What have you done with your so called oil.
You have oil and are still wretched.
If oil determine the welfare of any nation, Nigeria would have been better than US.
you killed it bro...ask him which part of South south is as developed as Abuja or Kano.

Oil will not be relevant By 2040

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Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by wingmanIII: 9:23am On Oct 05, 2019
Tolexander:
You have no good knowledge of diplomacy

Only Lesotho is an enclave in South Africa. What is the diplomatic relationship between Lesotho and South Africa? They are on a good relationship, no problem between the two nations so the seaports in South Africa can be used by the Mosotho government and the land can be used based on the diplomatic agreement between the two nations.
Unlike Nigeria and the proposed enclave, Biafra, there will be bitter feeling and a severe relationship tide between the two nations.

Based on the R. Niger being an international waterway, can the Nigerien government use the River Niger from the delta discharge to Wersternmost end of Kebbi State for cargo? That is a question to you.

The fact that a water is designated as international water, does it mean the nations involved do not have their own part of the water which can never be trespassed by any nation without permission? I’m sorry for your knowledge o

What exactly is your point? That a nation without an outlet to the sea is not sustainable?
Pick up a map, so many nations exist well without seaports or outlet to the sea.

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Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by Ekpeitit(m): 9:24am On Oct 05, 2019
So why do you want us in your Biafra so badly?
I know you think Igbos are very smart and others are stupid, answer me, why do you want us so badly if not for our oil and sea.
Who is the fool now?
Keep dreaming and wasting your time.
Why can't you just form your Igbo Biafra a d leave us alone?
That's all we are asking.
Na by force?
WE DON'T WANT YOU, IS THAT VERY DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND?

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Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by Tolexander: 9:26am On Oct 05, 2019
selemempe:
you are the one who doesn't know diplomacy. Trading insult online and official relations are not the same thing.

Nigeria has billions of dollars worth of investment in south east and Biafra needs Nigeria's end of the Niger as a matter of survival... Nigeria loses nothing by allowing Biafra use the Niger...

You will be drinking fura in your home when the two government will reach a trade deal... after that you can come online and insult Biafra as usual and tell us how lucky we are at Nigeria's generosity....we would insult you back while trading between the two countries go on real life
Nigerian investments in the south east is gone automatically and will be naturalized if Biafra succeeded seceding. That is no reason for needing Biafra by the Nigerian government.
And no reason for bilateral agreements.
What about the numerous ndigbo investments in Nigeria and the deported Biafrans?

Tell us from the mid 20th century, how many countries have a mutual relationship with the country which they secede from.

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Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by wingmanIII: 9:29am On Oct 05, 2019
Ekpeitit:
It's funny how you guys keep saying people claiming to be from South South ,what makes you think that there are no Niger Delta people on Nairaland?
The Niger Delta people know very well that Igbos should never be trusted and will never go with your Biafra, we also know that if you were not landlocked and we did not have oil Igbo people would never have invited us into their so called Biafra.
Let me ask you something, let's say Akwa Ibom State where I come from decide to join your useless Biafra, what will we gain from that?
What do the Igbos bring to the table,we have oil,what do you have?
You have nothing but the dream to use our oil to develop your Igbo communities.
We don't need you,you need us.
Please form your Igbo Biafra and leave us out of your nonsense.
Ndisime ndito uneghe.
I must emphasize that I am Ibibio not Yoruba.

So who is using your oil now? You or Hausa Fulani?
Please grow up!

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Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by Tolexander: 9:30am On Oct 05, 2019
wingmanIII:


What exactly is your point? That a nation without an outlet to the sea is not sustainable?
Pick up a map, so many nations exist well without seaports or outlet to the sea.
Typical example in Africa?

Moreover, who brought up the issue of waterway

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Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by valicious1(m): 9:36am On Oct 05, 2019
selemempe:
The need for Biafra cannot be over emphasized. First of all, Nigeria is the only country in the world with three major tribes and a 50/50 Christian and Muslim population. That is our major bane and has made national cohesion and integration impossible till tomorrow. Infant, Nigeria is the only country without a national culture or ideology.

However, the call for Biafra has made the Igbos seem weak in the midst of our close neighbours and allies the south south. Everyday we see someone claiming south south, opening a thread and either dissociating their tribe from Biafra or starting an insult against Igbos because of the believe of pro one Nigerians that without south south Biafra is dead.

Is that true? Let's look at the map of Nigeria again

The south east is surrounded by Nigeria on all sides but it can stand as a country on its own. Estwatini is doing great inside south Africa



Estwatini is doing better in terms of quality of life and infrastructure than Nigeria. South east has a port in Onitsha and assess to river in Abia. There is oil and gas in Anambra, imo and Abia. There is still coal in Enugu.

If going forward, the south south folks refuse to unite with us who has never done anything against their interest then we must cut them lose or forget about Biafra.
Afonjas or no Afonjas, truth is that the South south has not done enough to show they are friends of the Igbos. Enemies can only sow the seed of discord where the ground is fertile.
After backing GEJ in 2015 and being hated by the north for it, did it stop Asari Dokubo from calling Igbo ijaw slavé?

How long do we keep lying to ourselves about the reality of our relationship with the south south? What have we ever gained from these people? The civil war was caused by a south south man, but it was us in the south east that paid for it.
The abandoned property saga was not done anywhere else except the south south.

We accept the ibibios in Abia but the ibibios will not accept and respect the Igbos in Akwaibom. We accept the Igala in Anambra but they won't accept the Igbos in kogi or Benue. We accept the cross river tribes in ebonyi, but the cross riverians will not accept the Igbos in cross river.

How long do we play big brother to rude people? The south south should either start acting like dependable allies of Igbos or get cut off. Right now the Igbos seem not to have allies, better that than a fake ally who gives nothing but takes everything, including our dignity.

We must not live in a bubble. Reality is real.
How can I give you a million likes for this? What you said is the truth and nothing but the absolute truth.

As you said, ‘ Enemies can only sow the seed of discord where the ground is fertile” this sums it all up.

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Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by wingmanIII: 9:36am On Oct 05, 2019
Tolexander:
Typical example in Africa?

Moreover, who brought up the issue of waterway

I know you are smart enough to consult a map and see typical examples in Africa.
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by Tolexander: 9:38am On Oct 05, 2019
wingmanIII:


I know you are smart enough to consult a map and see typical examples in Africa.
give us an example and convince us that you are wiser than those madmen roaming the street

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Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by selemempe: 9:41am On Oct 05, 2019
Tolexander:
Nigerian investments in the south east is gone automatically and will be naturalized if Biafra succeeded seceding. That is no reason for needing Biafra by the Nigerian government.
And no reason for bilateral agreements.
What about the numerous ndigbo investments in Nigeria and the deported Biafrans?

Tell us from the mid 20th century, how many countries have a mutual relationship with the country which they secede from.
lol...adenugas glo, access bank, Nigeria brewery will be allowed to go to Biafra to prevent Biafra from using river Niger? How old are you bro..you are angry like a child and there is a reason people like you don't become leaders.

Eritrea and Ethiopia have normalised relations, Ireland and UK have normal relations

The Biafra we are looking for is not the one of war but that is also an option if we feel backed to a corner.

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Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by Ekpeitit(m): 9:42am On Oct 05, 2019
wingmanIII:


So who is using your oil now? You or Hausa Fulani?
Please grow up!
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by wingmanIII: 9:42am On Oct 05, 2019
Ekpeitit:
So why do you want us in your Biafra so badly?
I know you think Igbos are very smart and others are stupid, answer me, why do you want us so badly if not for our oil and sea.
Who is the fool now?
Keep dreaming and wasting your time.
Why can't you just form your Igbo Biafra a d leave us alone?
That's all we are asking.
Na by force?
WE DON'T WANT YOU, IS THAT VERY DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND?

Are you not clever enough to see the OP agrees with you?
He agrees you should be left alone. I wonder why you are confused

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Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by Ekpeitit(m): 9:45am On Oct 05, 2019
The truth is bitter but I will tell you anyway.
We trust Hausa people more than Igbos.
Relationships are built on trust and you can't build a relationship with any other tribe because they don't trust you.
It's sad but it's true.
I prefer to deal with Hausa people than Igbo people because we all know Igbo people are worse,Hausas are more honest.
That's why an Igbo man can never and will never be president of Nigeria.

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Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by wingmanIII: 9:45am On Oct 05, 2019
Tolexander:
give us an example and convince us that you are wiser than those madmen roaming the street

You are not smart after all if you cannot name one landlocked African country. Uganda in East Africa is one
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by wingmanIII: 9:49am On Oct 05, 2019
Ekpeitit:
The truth is bitter but I will tell you anyway.
We trust Hausa people more than Igbos.
Relationships are built on trust and you can't build a relationship with any other tribe because they don't trust you.
It's sad but it's true.
I prefer to deal with Hausa people than Igbo people because we all know Igbo people are worse,Hausas are more honest.
That's why an Igbo man can never and will never be president of Nigeria.

How is this rant relevant to the topic?
Please go and eat, I don't think you ve eaten this morning.

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Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by IGBOSON1: 9:57am On Oct 05, 2019
selemempe:
Just keep it real on this thread bro...no games here.

The eastern minorities are starting to piss me off. They have gotten everything from Igbos including large chunks of our territory and votes. We have never fought them or denied them. Abroad e
We take them as Igbos and show them love yorubas will never show them if they don't speak Yoruba.

Now tell me what we have ever got from them in return apart from insult and trolling....why? Because they think Igbos cant do without them? How? Is Rwanda not the fastest growing economy in Africa today even without access to sea or oil?

Bro, trust me....what is happening here is, a handful of people (who may actually be from the so called south-south, or be impostors from those sections of the country scared of Biafra/Igbos leaving) are the noisy miniscule minority, claiming their opinion is that of the people of the entire Niger-Delta or south-south! But ask them to put their money where their mouth is by supporting the call for a referendum, and they will pull dagger for you! Their main job on this forum is to paint the Igbos as greedy, landgrabbing invaders out to take swathes of their neighbours lands or out to coerce them to join Biafra when and if Igbos leave! Ask them how, in practical terms, Igbos will succeed in doing this and they look at you with a dumb/blank expression on their faces!

Remember we're talking about Igbos here; a people who never had an empire where they grabbed other peoples lands and forced them into slavery....a people who have lived peacefully with their neigbours for hundreds of years, and this can be buttressed by the numerous languages and cultures in the eastern part of Nigeria, as against one dominant language in other regions, occassioned by the centrality and singularity of command and control empires and hegemonies engender! smiley

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Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by IGBOSON1: 10:03am On Oct 05, 2019
Ekpeitit:
The truth is bitter but I will tell you anyway.
We trust Hausa people more than Igbos.
Relationships are built on trust and you can't build a relationship with any other tribe because they don't trust you.
It's sad but it's true.
I prefer to deal with Hausa people than Igbo people because we all know Igbo people are worse,Hausas are more honest.
That's why an Igbo man can never and will never be president of Nigeria.

This here is part of what i mean!

Just read this dudes rant and see how empty and silly his post sounds! He's saying basically (and i'm assuming he's claiming to be from the Akwa-Cross states) that they prefer Hausa to Igbos, but ask him to cite specific examples how their relationship with Hausas' have benefitted his people as against how their relationship with Igbos has not, and see what his response will be!

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Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by Ekpeitit(m): 10:06am On Oct 05, 2019
IGBOSON1:


This here is part of what i mean!

Just read this dudes rant and see how empty and silly his post sounds! He's saying basically (and i'm assuming he's claiming to be from the Akwa-Cross states) that they prefer Hausa to Igbos, but ask him to cite specific examples how their relationship with Hausas' have benefitted his people as against how their relationship with Igbos has not, and see what his response will be!
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by selemempe: 10:08am On Oct 05, 2019
Ekpeitit:
So why do you want us in your Biafra so badly?
I know you think Igbos are very smart and others are stupid, answer me, why do you want us so badly if not for our oil and sea.
Who is the fool now?
Keep dreaming and wasting your time.
Why can't you just form your Igbo Biafra a d leave us alone?
That's all we are asking.
Na by force?
WE DON'T WANT YOU, IS THAT VERY DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND?
I know you are not from Akwaibom, but the reality is that we are using your oil already even more than you. You have one state, we have 5

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Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by Ekpeitit(m): 10:10am On Oct 05, 2019
I warned you that the truth will hurt.
It may sound stupid but that's the very honest truth.
If an Igbo man contested for the presidency against a Hausa or Yoruba man who will I vote for?
I'm very sure you know that I will vote the Hausa or Yoruba man.
These simple truth will help you understand why your dream of including Niger Delta tribes in your Biafra is nothing but a pipe dream because it will never happen.

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Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by Ekpeitit(m): 10:13am On Oct 05, 2019
selemempe:
I know you are not from Akwaibom, but the reality is that we are using your oil already even more than you. You have one state, we have 5
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by Area4Area: 10:13am On Oct 05, 2019
helinues:
Why are SS and SE displaying their dirty linens in the public?

Make Una settle it in house now
Was this not what we've been telling IPOBians to try settle with the SS minorities before including them in Biafra but would they listen?
All they know is shouting abo.ki, afonja, saboteur upandan

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Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by selemempe: 10:14am On Oct 05, 2019
Tolexander:
Typical example in Africa?

Moreover, who brought up the issue of waterway
Rwanda was the fastest growing economy in Africa since 2015...and still on top 10 while your Nigeria is not even in top 15 with Lagos, oil and sea access.

You guys are always available to tell us why we must abandon Biafra, why is that? Because you love us so badly? Lmao

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Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by Area4Area: 10:15am On Oct 05, 2019
letusbepieces:



NOBODY IS PISSING YOU OFF, KNOW YOUR TERRITORIES AND STOP PLAYING INTO THE HANDS OF YORUBA PEOPLE OPENING AKWA IBOM THREAD ALL WEEK.

THEY CAN ONLY TRY BUT IT WONT WORK.


IGBOS ARE BONDED TO THE EAST AND NEVER THE WEST.


I ACTUALLY FIND MEN FROM THE WEST DISGUSTING AND LOWER INTELLIGENCE.
Yet you can't tell IPOBians and Ndigbo in the West to leave, you rather allow them die there than leave.

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Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by Ekpeitit(m): 10:16am On Oct 05, 2019
Exactly, that's why you should go and form your thing quietly.
If we really liked Igbos we would have voted for Ojukwu when he contested several times under APGA but we never wanted an Igbo president.
If we didn't vote for an Igbo president why would we join an Igbo Republic?
Use your common sense.
We have the numbers to vote in an Igbo president but it will never happen.STOP WASTING YOUR TIME.
WE DON'T TRUST YOU.

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Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by selemempe: 10:16am On Oct 05, 2019
Ekpeitit:
I warned you that the truth will hurt.
It may sound stupid but that's the very honest truth.
If an Igbo man contested for the presidency against a Hausa or Yoruba man who will I vote for?
I'm very sure you know that I will vote the Hausa or Yoruba man.
These simple truth will help you understand why your dream of including Niger Delta tribes in your Biafra is nothing but a pipe dream because it will never happen.
it's ok. I agree with you.
Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by Area4Area: 10:18am On Oct 05, 2019
selemempe:
is there not an enclave inside south Africa doing good?

Once Biafra comes, it becomes easy to designate the Niger as an international water.

If u haven't read before you reply then get off this thread with your nonsense and don't worry how Biafra enclave will survive...it's none of your business
That is if Nigeria agrees to such an agreement and not for your Biafra or any international body or organization to decide for Nigeria.

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Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by Area4Area: 10:20am On Oct 05, 2019
Successdude:
When the Biafra come first, all these will be solved ...

See, believe u me, most of these 'minority tribes' know they are for Biafra..... I see many impostors here... Just don't worry. All these would be sorted out.

No need for gragra. Peace
Give us links where the representatives of those minorities told you that their people want Biafra

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Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by ZZ22: 10:22am On Oct 05, 2019
You'd be deluded if you think this ekpeitit guy is from SS not to talk of AkwaIbom. Dude is probably yyeske and his ewedu odour always gives him out

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Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by ZZ22: 10:24am On Oct 05, 2019
He has logged in with another of his handle Area4area. He switched from Ekpeitit to Area4area

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Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by Eteka1(m): 10:28am On Oct 05, 2019
Successdude:
When the Biafra come first, all these will be solved ...

See, believe u me, most of these 'minority tribes' know they are for Biafra..... I see many impostors here... Just don't worry. All these would be sorted out.

No need for gragra. Peace
Who de follow una do Biafra? Don't bring that play near Cross River and Akwa Ibom.

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Re: Igbos In Akwaibom: Lessons Learned by Nobody: 10:30am On Oct 05, 2019
I think this Biafra thing should be restricted to the 5 core Igbo states, but if other ethnic group wishes to join they can apply
Its becoming irritating everyday when some in knowledgeable biafrans just include states that don't want to secede with them
I WISH BIAFRA WELL

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