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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 8:11am On Oct 05, 2019 |
ChrisKels:They probably won't cry too much over it. They have that Mason Greenwood kid or whatever his name is. Crazy baller. Good time to snatch Saka. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 8:12am On Oct 05, 2019 |
Earthquake1:He was undecided. He most likely would've made the switch if things didn't change like Tbaba1234 said. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by timay(m): 8:14am On Oct 05, 2019 |
edi287: This is not true. Dele was never and I don't think has ever played CM. He started out as a Winger for Spurs before being converted to an AM as time went on. At those two positions, you will get to goal scoring position and score. So it's not a big deal considering his playing position 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 8:17am On Oct 05, 2019 |
edi287: Are you telling me as a 20 year old professional you don't know what country you want to play for? Don't deceive yourself, those who consider Nigeria are because they are no position to choose, Sheyi Ojo, Akpom etc 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by timay(m): 8:18am On Oct 05, 2019 |
Earthquake1: You can't be a full citizen of two countries. You will always be loyal to one than the other, no matter what. Why do you think a lot of countries have constitution against people with dual citizenship holding some certain key and sensitive position. Although, the context here is football. But on technical grounds, you can't be a full citizen of two countries at the same time because of loyalty and division of interest. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 8:22am On Oct 05, 2019 |
timay: Exactly |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chucs: 8:24am On Oct 05, 2019 |
Earthquake1:From the writeup I read, some people made such insinuations. What i'm implying is that upbringing helps in making those kids raised abroad have stronger connection with their roots. Some of these kids don't feel like Nigerians and doesn't want to be associated with the country eg Dele Ali, Barkley etc. So they dont even have that option. How are u sure they have Nigerian passport to start with? That someone represents a foreign country doesn't make him less Nigerian. It has to do with the mindset. I used Antony Joshua as an example. I ones watched a tv documentary of Serge Gnabry discuss about his Ivorian root and how he supports local kids in his little way. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 8:30am On Oct 05, 2019 |
chucs: Yeah but according to Komekn those like Tammy Abraham, Dele Alli must be forced to be 'fully Nigerian' even if they don't want anything to do with Nigeria |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by timay(m): 8:35am On Oct 05, 2019 |
chucs: @the bolded is debatable. Shebi u know that technically , those People are now less Nigerian. In the sense that in the Nigerian constitution, one of your rights as a citizen is the right to vote and be voted for. As a dual nationality person, you might still vote but you can't be voted for because of your dual citizenship, meaning you can't contest an election for a political position in the country, except you renounce your other citizenship. So this makes you less Nigerian because you don't enjoy the full right as a Nigerian. And I'm sure this clause is not peculiar to the Nigerian constitution, because a lot of countries in the world also has that clause. Although the decision of the boys to represent England should be respected, but saying that they are also more Nigerian is debatable and cannot be 100% correct as some of them don't own or have never even applied for the Nigerian passport before. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chucs: 8:39am On Oct 05, 2019 |
Earthquake1:Abraham and Tomori are too small to unsettle the most populous black nation in the world with an abundance of talents yet to be harnessed. For all I know,they are just young and are not yet established footballers. It may even turn out to be a case of one season wonder, who knows. We shouldn't be in a position to beg any one if things are working right over here anyways. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by iSlayer: 8:41am On Oct 05, 2019 |
I think Saka was the one who was interviewed and stated unequivocally that he is Nigerian. Getting those ones are easy. Has Tomori or even worse still Tammy ever ever identified as Nigerian? I don't think so. If people can consider what these players identify as, not everyone will be feeling so disappointed afterwards. Arnaut Danjuma is an example. During one of his interviews he spoke of Nigeria as one distant place he's not familiar with. Few weeks later the opportunity came and he flew at it, joining the Dutch team. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chucs: 8:45am On Oct 05, 2019 |
timay:You are talking about politics and i'm talking about football( two different things). |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by iSlayer: 8:51am On Oct 05, 2019 |
This moves to get this foreign born lads are getting almost clandestine. You just sit back and allow the foreign system develop them. After all, your own system is moribund and diseased. The players in your system are over aged and have stunted development. You don't bother about the home front, who cares anyway. After these foreign born are moulded into stars in another system then you come knocking on the door, "Hello lad, do you know you're Nigerian?" 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 8:51am On Oct 05, 2019 |
Earthquake1:Yes especially if they have dual nationalities. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 9:04am On Oct 05, 2019 |
iSlayer: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Clementoke(m): 9:06am On Oct 05, 2019 |
edi287: There is always a 1st choice bro. A good 20 year footballer is not an amateur. He should have played one or two seasons of high level football (according to Komekn). Someone like that would have a Plan A (or plan B if it applies) of who to represent. My thoughts. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Clementoke(m): 9:07am On Oct 05, 2019 |
iSlayer: Laughter at the bolded sentence 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 9:14am On Oct 05, 2019 |
gamaliel9:That's true cos Tomori played for Canada u-20 and the English u20 same year |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:16am On Oct 05, 2019 |
timay: Saraki has dual citizenship and he was the senate president. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:23am On Oct 05, 2019 |
iSlayer: The choice of playing for Nigeria is not dependent on feeling Nigerian.. Trust me, many of these boys 'feel' Nigerian. Feeling Nigerian is not the same as wanting to play for Nigeria. The Nigerian lady running for Bahrain feels 'Nigerian'. Tammy listens to Nigerian music, many of the friends in his circle are Nigerian kids. He grew up in a very Nigerian home. The decision is usually about what they think benefits their career more. 8 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 9:34am On Oct 05, 2019 |
edi287: Dele alli is good no doubt and he has been successfull at his young age, almost 40 caps at age 23, only sterling and kane is more used in the english team than him , but he has lost form for almost a year, it took southgte time to drop him from the english squad I laff some people most times that say most nigeria player will be used and dump by england, if you are good you are good, thou dele has been poor for some time now sha 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 9:36am On Oct 05, 2019 |
edi287: What has Mason Greenwood that you are mentioning him ? Another overhyped player loading Even Ansu fati has done more than Mason Greenwood with lesser games but you wont hear noise from the spanish media |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 9:40am On Oct 05, 2019 |
edi287: Mason Greenwood has nothing on Saka |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 9:40am On Oct 05, 2019 |
Earthquake1: Agreed |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:45am On Oct 05, 2019 |
ChrisKels: This is not true. If Tomori was loaned out this season, he would have switched to Nigeria. Facts. Once he became a Chelsea first team player, England became his priority. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 9:47am On Oct 05, 2019 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 9:49am On Oct 05, 2019 |
tbaba1234: What exactly isn't true, that he went to the U21 Euros or that he was approached when he was with Derby? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by timay(m): 9:51am On Oct 05, 2019 |
chucs: Yea I get |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Famocious(m): 9:51am On Oct 05, 2019 |
tbaba1234: This also reminds me of Eniola Aluko.. She doesn't hid her Naija identity. She still visit Nigeria on a regular basis, though in the end she was bullied out of the National team |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kellycute(m): 9:52am On Oct 05, 2019 |
ChrisKels:tell me more about Saka. I need to watch the guy joor |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:55am On Oct 05, 2019 |
ChrisKels: After that, what next? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:56am On Oct 05, 2019 |
ChrisKels: He was approached and had already indicated that he would switch. There was one thing that delayed his switch. He did not expect to be a first team defender starting every match this season. That changed everything. I am familiar with his case and Tammy. For Tomori, England was priority number 1. |
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