bidexiii:



These are real boko boys. Probably on a mission, scout etc.

I don't understand. How can you tell which is which, cos they all look alike

GabrielYulaw:

I don't understand. How can you tell which is which, cos they all look alike

That would be very difficult to tell.
What determines is the operational location you are and the the faction that operates in such area.
You rarely see bandits in these hostile area.

bidexiii:



That would be very difficult to tell.
What determines is the operational location you are and the the faction that operates in such area.

Is this English?
Sorry, na joke.

bidexiii:



That would be very difficult to tell.
What determines is the operational location you are and the the faction that operates in such area.
You rarely see bandits in these area.

Let me ask you something bro, if this war goes on is it likely that military conscription will be introduced?

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GabrielYulaw:


My apologies. I should had said that they didn't lose any battle that mattered. The quote about their never losing any battle came from an American quip to a North Vietnamese general during the peace talks. I am unable to remember precisely who. From the top of your head too I am sure you can remember the massive amount of material each American base was stocked with that made it able to resist attacks by enemy forces many times its size. Like 250,000 rounds of small arms ammo for the Lang Vei you quoted. Do we do the same thing here or do our soldiers complain of lack of ammo?

So far as I know, we have lost at least one Mil 35 to enemy fire. Either that or I am higher than a kite on crack.

Yeah we suffer from ammo stocks. If only we had a functional Mil Industry.

The Mi35 crash was not due to enemy fire ooo

Odunayaw:
Yeah we suffer from ammo stocks. If only we had a functional Mil Industry.

The Mi35 crash was not due to enemy fire ooo

Yeah, DICON dey fuk up. Egypt, Algeria, South Africa and even common Sudan have functional military industries. Yes, Sudan. That is annoying as hell.
As for the Mil 35 I heard it was shot down. It seems I was mistaken.

bidexiii:
*THE BEST GRADUATING STUDENT FROM NIGERIA DEFENCE ACADEMY (NDA)*

Ms. Uchechi Promise Echefu graduated with First Class Honours in Computer Science in the faculty of Military Science and Inter Disciplinary Studies and received the following academic awards.

1. Commander in Chief best graduating cadet Academic Award.

2. Afe Bablola best Behaved graduating cadet Award.

3. Chief of Defence staff best graduating cadet Award in Military Science and Inter Disciplinary Studies.

4. Commandant Best graduating cadet in Computer Science.

5. Best graduating cadet in Navy.

CONGRATULATIONS!!!

Please give me her number. I want her to take me prisoner, cos I have been a very bad boy. I hope she can interrogate me wella in the bedroom

Seriously though, is she in the Navy or NA? Do these awards come with tangible prizes? What do you need to do to attend the NDA? After graduation there are you sent straight to the field or what? Some enlightenment would be nice.

David Cameron: We located some Chibok schoolgirls but Jonathan didn’t allow us rescue them

David Cameron, former British prime minister, has alleged that ex-President Goodluck Jonathan did not give enough support to Britain during the abduction of 274 schoolgirls in Chibok, Borno state.

The abduction, which took place on April 14 2014, had sparked a global outrage following which the international community offered to assist Nigeria.

In For The Record, his memoir, Cameron, who was in office at the time of the incident, said British troops traced the location of some of the victims and offered to help but Jonathan refused.

“Iraq wasn’t the only place we would need our military to counter this extremist menace. Boko Haram in Nigeria was linked to al-Qaeda, and believed Western education and lifestyles were a sin (the meaning behind its name). It too wanted to institute a caliphate, and like ISIS it would use whatever barbaric means it thought necessary,”Cameron wrote.

“In early 2014 a group of its fighters centered the government secondary school in the village of Chibok, seizing 276 teenage girls. They were taken to camps deep in the forest. The Christians among them were forced to convert to Islam. Many were sold as slaves, entering the same endless violent nightmare the Yazidi women suffered.

“As ‘Bring Back Our Girls’ campaign spread across the world, we embedded a team of military and intelligence experts in Nigeria, and sent spy planes and Tornadoes with thermal imaging to search for the missing girls. And, amazingly, from the skies above a forest three times the size of Wales, we managed to locate some of them.


Cameron said he expected Jonathan to handle the Chibok issue better

“But Nigeria’s president, Goodluck Jonathan, seemed to be asleep at the wheel. When he eventually made a statement, it was to accuse the campaigners of politicising the tragedy. And absolutely crucially, when we offered to help rescue the girls we had located, he refused.”

TheCable sent messages to Ikechukwu Eze, spokesman of Jonathan, seeking his reaction to Cameron’s claim but he had not responded as of the time this report was filed.

Cameron also said the Nigerian army was unable to participate in operations the US and UK forces organised for the rescue of Chibok schoolgirls because of “politically appointed generals”.

The ex-British prime minister wrote on how the Archbishop of Canterbury was contacted to assist during the intervention in Nigeria.

“We had to play the long game focusing on a much bigger training effort for the Nigerian military and intelligence forces and trying to promote more energetic leaders from the younger generation. The Archbishop of Canterbury, as an expert on Nigeria, could be particularly useful on this and I invited him to join our NSC discussion,” he wrote.

“Some of the girls have managed to escape over the following four years, and others have been released, but over a hundred are still missing. Once again. the combination of lslamist extremism and bad governance proved fatal.

“How did I feel about all this at the end of 2014? The answer is, depressed. ISIS now occupied an area larger than Britain. A similar brand of terrorism was being wrought by Boko Harem in west Africa), another ISIS affiliate in north Africa, and by al-Shabab (‘the youth) in east Africa, while related groups were springing up in the Philippines, Bangladesh, Afghanistan and the Caucasus. There seemed to be no stopping an evil ideology that seduced minds from the badlands of Syt’tato bedrooms in Birmingham. When I spoke about the challenge publicly I tried to remain measured and resolute. But privately did asked myself, would we ever be able to defeat this thing?

A total of 112 Chibok schoolgirls have remained unaccounted for. The government of President Muhammadu Buhari secured the release of more than 100 while 57 managed to escape.

Source: https://www.thecable.ng/david-cameron-we-located-some-chibok-schoolgirls-but-jonathan-didnt-allow-us-rescue-them/amp

Odunayaw:
The Super camp strategy will utterly fail if we don't fix our mobility & communication issues.


Furthermore, these guys still don't know how to employ SF!

Really don't want to say anything more to the whole shebang but again I'm compelled to. Your above point is subjective. I don't think progressively over the war comms is an issue. Even evidence from the field show regular soldiers with personal radios at platoon level and company levels. And your argument about the use of Special Forces is highly highly subjective. I guess maybe even Bidexiii can shed light on that.

Odunayaw:
Military victory in its real sense is possible. All we see now is because they're fighting wrong.

You may want to adduce the tactical measures and strategy you mean to win the war so we see at least. Personally I no longer see the feasibility of it from a pure military perspective. If you mean a stalemate, cold peace or whatever else you may call it the reality is these guys with their ideology are gonna be with us for a long long time. Except of course you mean to use banned weapons.

Odunayaw:
Yeah we suffer from ammo stocks. If only we had a functional Mil Industry.

The Mi35 crash was not due to enemy fire ooo

There are arguable questions of our budding military industrial complex but ammo for the Army is not one of them. We have seen the humongous amount of ammo left for ISWAP/BHT by retreating troops who basically cry wolf after losing or abandoning a fight. Its simply excuses that normally should see more officers demoted.

GabrielYulaw:


Let me ask you something bro, if this war goes on is it likely that military conscription will be introduced?

No. Would be unpopular with any president. Enough young men at least for now willing to enlist, poverty is a factor. And this is not a state on state war were the ratio of deaths are astronomically high requiring call ups. Besides drafts mostly end up sending children of the poor to die and exposes cowardice among young men.

Covert1:


There are arguable questions of our budding military industrial complex but ammo for the Army is not one of them. We have seen the humongous amount of ammo left for ISWAP/BHT by retreating troops who basically cry wolf after losing or abandoning a fight. Its simply excuses that normally should see more officers demoted.

I don't understand this o, cos I distinctly remember tales of our troops being rationed to 2 magazines of 30 rounds apiece of AK 47 ammo. Or is my memory deteriorating?

Covert1:


No. Would be unpopular with any president. Enough young men at least for now willing to enlist, poverty is a factor. And this is not a state on state war were the ratio of deaths are astronomically high requiring call ups. Besides drafts mostly end up sending children of the poor to die and exposes cowardice among young men.

I hope you are right. But I don't think the present crop of rulers we have give a nice shit about their popularity among the masses

Covert1:


Really don't want to say anything more to the whole shebang but again I'm compelled to. Your above point is subjective. I don't think progressively over the war comms is an issue. Even evidence from the field show regular soldiers with personal radios at platoon level and company levels. And your argument about the use of Special Forces is highly highly subjective. I guess maybe even Bidexiii can shed light on that.

And the mobility issue he mentioned? We shouldn't be using unarmored Hiluxes to move our troops in a combat area. If we are broke, the armored vehicles being used by our senators and house of reps should be donated to the army.

GabrielYulaw:


My apologies. I should had said that they didn't lose any battle that mattered. The quote about their never losing any battle came from an American quip to a North Vietnamese general during the peace talks. I am unable to remember precisely who. From the top of your head too I am sure you can remember the massive amount of material each American base was stocked with that made it able to resist attacks by enemy forces many times its size. Like 250,000 rounds of small arms ammo for the Lang Vei you quoted. Do we do the same thing here or do our soldiers complain of lack of ammo?

So far as I know, we have lost at least one Mil 35 to enemy fire. Either that or I am higher than a kite on crack.

Earlier I didn't want to join issues with u on who lost what hill or not in Vietnam or how long fast jets stay in the air, just not necessary. The point is at the end after bitter fighting to capture and hold positions with no military value the US is withdrew in essence lost. That's the point. When I say we should talk peace that applies to the whole terrorism wahala worldwide that I think should be looked at. It's an ideology propagated by their islamist leaders right or wrong and in our case we can talk to our own brothers and maybe find a way to set up a model of peace by skill negotiations through wise men in the land. Else again I say I don't see how we kill all of them.

Covert1:


You may want to adduce the tactical measures and strategy you mean to win the war so we see at least. Personally I no longer see the feasibility of it from a pure military perspective. If you mean a stalemate, cold peace or whatever else you may call it the reality is these guys with their ideology are gonna be with us for a long long time. Except of course you mean to use banned weapons.

A cold peace? Lol. You don't seem to understand that these guys will never rest till they have conquered all of Nigeria, West Africa and the world. That is what makes negotiations with them impossible. It is like negotiating with the zombies from The Walking Dead.

The war can still be won. But it will require drastic changes in strategy, tactics, equipment, personnel and more.

Why hasn't the NA put together a committee to study the course of this war, what it has done wrong and needs to do right and what it needs to buy now and in the future? This will be very helpful, especially if the conclusions reached are implemented.

Covert1:


Earlier I didn't want to join issues with u on who lost what hill or not in Vietnam or how long fast jets stay in the air, just not necessary. The point is at the end after bitter fighting to capture and hold positions with no military value the US is withdrew in essence lost. That's the point. When I say we should talk peace that applies to the whole terrorism wahala worldwide that I think should be looked at. It's an ideology propagated by their islamist leaders right or wrong and in our case we can talk to our own brothers and maybe find a way to set up a model of peace by skill negotiations through wise men in the land. Else again I say I don't see how we kill all of them.

Of course the US lost the war. I never said they didn't. Like I said, they lacked a coherent military strategy and were constrained by fear of widening the conflict.
I don't think negotiations will work here. We can negotiate with the Boko boys, but ISWAP is a different matter. ISWAP is not the Vietcong. There will be no negotiating with them. It is either they kill us or we kill them.
As for worldwide terrorism, negotiate all you like, but it will never ever be really wiped out. You doubt me? Then look into the resurgence of ISIS in Iraq. Yes, Iraq where a few years ago they were said to have been eradicated.

GabrielYulaw:


A cold peace? Lol. You don't seem to understand that these guys will never rest till they have conquered all of Nigeria, West Africa and the world. That is what makes negotiations with them impossible. It is like negotiating with the zombies from The Walking Dead.

The war can still be won. But it will require drastic changes in strategy, tactics, equipment, personnel and more.

Why hasn't the NA put together a committee to study the course of this war, what it has done wrong and needs to do right and what it needs to buy now and in the future? This will be very helpful, especially if the conclusions reached are implemented.

I think under the former NSA studies were made. The military too has documentary evidence. Of course all are classified. We are still in an active war. So far every basic strategic and tactical initiative for winning the war has been employed with some of the best Generals to no avail. The only option is more investment in technology and prepare for an indefinite war or talk some form of peace or napalm the whole North-East to ruins. We have all since known who this people are.

GabrielYulaw:


And the mobility issue he mentioned? We shouldn't be using unarmored Hiluxes to move our troops in a combat area. If we are broke, the armored vehicles being used by our senators and house of reps should be donated to the army.

Yes our soldiers deserve better but Armoured Vehicles or not ambushes will still occur. Beyond the transition of soft skinned vehicles I think we should look at ways to end the war than fighting to no avail. The war is costing hundreds of millions a month and young men gone forever.

GabrielYulaw:


I don't understand this o, cos I distinctly remember tales of our troops being rationed to 2 magazines of 30 rounds apiece of AK 47 ammo. Or is my memory deteriorating?

a lot of it is hearsay. They are well armed.

GabrielYulaw:


I hope you are right. But I don't think the present crop of rulers we have give a nice shit about their popularity among the masses

Odunayaw:
First of, its misleading when you say the US never lost any battle or base in Vietnam. From the top of my head I can remember Battle of Dong Xoai, Battle of Lang Vei etc.. There are tens of 'bases' and maybe hundreds of "battles" lost.

Nemesis8u please repost that your stuff on UCAV.

What Mi35 was shot down?

Which stuff on UCAV ?

Negotiate with Islamic fundamentalists? Yawa go finally gas, you give them an inch, they take a mile. Donald Trump is in a position to tell you more after cancelling their negotiations with the muda fkin Taliban.

DICON

Unconfirmed report says Babbangida the headquarters of tarmuwa LGA in Yobe State is been attacked by gunmen suspected to be bokoHaram. Tarmuwa is just 43KM away from Damaturu the capital city of Yobe State .

nemesis8u:


Which stuff on UCAV ?

U once posted something on UAVs and their importance, downtimes etc

Covert1:


Really don't want to say anything more to the whole shebang but again I'm compelled to. Your above point is subjective. I don't think progressively over the war comms is an issue. Even evidence from the field show regular soldiers with personal radios at platoon level and company levels. And your argument about the use of Special Forces is highly highly subjective. I guess maybe even Bidexiii can shed light on that.

Huh? You don't know there are still blue on blues in theatre or what? Or that FOBs that have come under attack (I specifically remember one that happened this time last year) couldn't comm with HQ or even another FOB.
Personal Radios are existent but not sufficient.

What's Subjective about the employment of SF? This year they've barely been employed outside long range patrols.

Covert1:


There are arguable questions of our budding military industrial complex but ammo for the Army is not one of them. We have seen the humongous amount of ammo left for ISWAP/BHT by retreating troops who basically cry wolf after losing or abandoning a fight. Its simply excuses that normally should see more officers demoted.

Well..this is another dimension.

Covert1:


You may want to adduce the tactical measures and strategy you mean to win the war so we see at least. Personally I no longer see the feasibility of it from a pure military perspective. If you mean a stalemate, cold peace or whatever else you may call it the reality is these guys with their ideology are gonna be with us for a long long time. Except of course you mean to use banned weapons.

It'd take sometimes to structure what I have in mind into text.

Toju200:
DICON

I wish these ones would just concentrate on taking care of the "recurrent" aspect of war e.g Ammo

BabaOwen:
David Cameron: We located some Chibok schoolgirls but Jonathan didn’t allow us rescue them

David Cameron, former British prime minister, has alleged that ex-President Goodluck Jonathan did not give enough support to Britain during the abduction of 274 schoolgirls in Chibok, Borno state.

The abduction, which took place on April 14 2014, had sparked a global outrage following which the international community offered to assist Nigeria.

In For The Record, his memoir, Cameron, who was in office at the time of the incident, said British troops traced the location of some of the victims and offered to help but Jonathan refused.

“Iraq wasn’t the only place we would need our military to counter this extremist menace. Boko Haram in Nigeria was linked to al-Qaeda, and believed Western education and lifestyles were a sin (the meaning behind its name). It too wanted to institute a caliphate, and like ISIS it would use whatever barbaric means it thought necessary,”Cameron wrote.

“In early 2014 a group of its fighters centered the government secondary school in the village of Chibok, seizing 276 teenage girls. They were taken to camps deep in the forest. The Christians among them were forced to convert to Islam. Many were sold as slaves, entering the same endless violent nightmare the Yazidi women suffered.

“As ‘Bring Back Our Girls’ campaign spread across the world, we embedded a team of military and intelligence experts in Nigeria, and sent spy planes and Tornadoes with thermal imaging to search for the missing girls. And, amazingly, from the skies above a forest three times the size of Wales, we managed to locate some of them.


Cameron said he expected Jonathan to handle the Chibok issue better

“But Nigeria’s president, Goodluck Jonathan, seemed to be asleep at the wheel. When he eventually made a statement, it was to accuse the campaigners of politicising the tragedy. And absolutely crucially, when we offered to help rescue the girls we had located, he refused.”

TheCable sent messages to Ikechukwu Eze, spokesman of Jonathan, seeking his reaction to Cameron’s claim but he had not responded as of the time this report was filed..

Source: https://www.thecable.ng/david-cameron-we-located-some-chibok-schoolgirls-but-jonathan-didnt-allow-us-rescue-them/amp

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