Good evening house,

I have this ‘tough’ decision. A choice between the above mentioned cars.

I’ve always enjoyed the fuel economy of 4 cylinder vehicles, I’m not particular about engine performance, as it relates to speed; as long as the car isn’t as sluggish as the 2001 pathfinder.

I know the ES330 is just a luxury version of the Camry ‘big nyash’, and that Camry is quite reliable. However, there are lots of positive reviews on the C class.

I want to enjoy good economy, reliability, and relatively cheap maintenance cost.

Help!!!

Is the pathfinder that sluggish?

My mum had one, toooooo sluggish for a V6.

Vivianat:
Is the pathfinder that sluggish?

engrezenwa:
Good evening house,

I have this ‘tough’ decision. A choice between the above mentioned cars.

I’ve always enjoyed the fuel economy of 4 cylinder vehicles, I’m not particular about engine performance, as it relates to speed; as long as the car isn’t as sluggish as the 2001 pathfinder.

I know the ES330 is just a luxury version of the Camry ‘big nyash’, and that Camry is quite reliable. However, there are lots of positive reviews on the C class.

I want to enjoy good economy, reliability, and relatively cheap maintenance cost.

Help!!!

Better buy your Lexus jeje if you want cheap maintenance.

Lexus is it

One is a 1.8L I4 Turbo (good fuel eco), the other is a 3.3L V6.
Both have pros and cons but choose the Lexus.
Go for Lexus ES330, though I dont like that glorified Camry.

engrezenwa:
Good evening house,

I have this ‘tough’ decision. A choice between the above mentioned cars.

I’ve always enjoyed the fuel economy of 4 cylinder vehicles, I’m not particular about engine performance, as it relates to speed; as long as the car isn’t as sluggish as the 2001 pathfinder.

I know the ES330 is just a luxury version of the Camry ‘big nyash’, and that Camry is quite reliable. However, there are lots of positive reviews on the C class.

I want to enjoy good economy, reliability, and relatively cheap maintenance cost.

Help!!!

let me sell a Lexus es 330 to you, you can come for test driving..

Iogobenz:
Better buy your Lexus jeje if you want cheap maintenance.

Baba, is speaking from experience. How dey go dey go? Long time no see bro

Vivianat:
Lexus is it

Uncles Timi, Nurey and co, I can confirm categorically this isn't smartchoiice

So what have you said now?

Eddee:


Baba, is speaking from experience. How dey go dey go? Long time no see bro



Uncles Timi, Nurey and co, I can confirm categorically this isn't smartchoiice

engrezenwa:
So what have you said now?

Don't be rude. Sit this one out (you won't understand anyway).

All the same, the Lexus is the better car (they are not even in the same class luxury-wise), the Benz is not cheap to maintain, and I dare say their fueling needs are almost the same. Stay with the Lexus

Eddee:


Don't be rude. Sit this one out (you won't understand anyway).

All the same, the Lexus is the better car (they are not even in the same class luxury-wise), the Benz is not cheap to maintain, and I dare say their fueling needs are almost the same. Stay with the Lexus

Eh bro,men I just dey my dey on a low.
Hope your side smooth bruv?

Iogobenz:
Eh bro,men I just dey my dey on a low.
Hope your side smooth bruv?

Area calm and quiet bro

Eddee:


Baba, is speaking from experience. How dey go dey go? Long time no see bro



Uncles Timi, Nurey and co, I can confirm categorically this isn't smartchoiice

It is him 100% he will soon switch to another moniker to perpetrate his madness

nurey:


It is him 100% he will soon switch to another moniker to perpetrate his madness

Bros abeg make we no turn dis thread to the usual banter thread na biko...
Lets discuss d issue on ground.... God bless bros

I was amazed that sane humans came to a thread that has a clearly defined purpose, to exchange pleasantries.

Thanks for pointing it out.

AutoMoTech:

Bros abeg make we no turn dis thread to the usual banter thread na biko...
Lets discuss d issue on ground.... God bless bros

engrezenwa:
Good evening house,

I have this ‘tough’ decision. A choice between the above mentioned cars.

I’ve always enjoyed the fuel economy of 4 cylinder vehicles, I’m not particular about engine performance, as it relates to speed; as long as the car isn’t as sluggish as the 2001 pathfinder.

I know the ES330 is just a luxury version of the Camry ‘big nyash’, and that Camry is quite reliable. However, there are lots of positive reviews on the C class.

I want to enjoy good economy, reliability, and relatively cheap maintenance cost.

Help!!!

The W203 trounces the Lexus. Although I detest the interiors of the W203. But I'd pick up the w203 in a jiffy. Happy motoring

weyreypey:

The W203 trounces the Lexus. Although I detest the interiors of the W203. But I'd pick up the w203 in a jiffy. Happy motoring

Prefacelift is ugly walai... But the facelift is a beauty....

engrezenwa:
I was amazed that sane humans came to a thread that has a clearly defined purpose, to exchange pleasantries.

Thanks for pointing it out.

You're still angry, easy with the name calling... Don't take life too serious.

I own an E Class. And I'm advising you to stay clear, follow Heavenl.yBang's advise if you must persist in this quest of yours. A used Benz whether toks or naija used is a ticking bomb.

Eddee:


Baba, is speaking from experience. How dey go dey go? Long time no see bro



Uncles Timi, Nurey and co, I can confirm categorically this isn't smartchoiice

Nah legalwealth borrow moniker to post

engrezenwa:
I was amazed that sane humans came to a thread that has a clearly defined purpose, to exchange pleasantries.

Thanks for pointing it out.

Father of the sane, why did you come to forum of insane to seek advise?
Carry your sanity to car lot and collect both cars without paying nah...

Eddee:


You're still angry, easy with the name calling... Don't take life too serious.

I own an E Class. And I'm advising you to stay clear, follow Heavenl.yBang's advise if you must persist in this quest of yours. A used Benz whether toks or naija used is a ticking bomb.

Though this statement might have been as a result of your personal experience however I disagree.
As a technician, i have seen many many toks and used Benz being used for years without issues. Infact they are very reliable if well maintained.
A badly used benz maybe but to say a benz is a ticking time bomb? Haba manah

Eddee:


You're still angry, easy with the name calling... Don't take life too serious.

I own an E Class. And I'm advising you to stay clear, follow Heavenl.yBang's advise if you must persist in this quest of yours. A used Benz whether toks or naija used is a ticking bomb.

See your uninteresting advice. There's a reason I personally have refrained from recommending your used E Klasse to anyone. The way you cry about it shows that definitely something is very fishy as regards your ownership of the marquee

weyreypey:


See your uninteresting advice. There's a reason I personally have refrained from recommending your used E Klasse to anyone. The way you cry about it shows that definitely something is very fishy as regards your ownership of the marquee

There's nothing fishy about my car. Full disclosure on everything I do, deep down you know this. I won't lie because of a couple quid on a car, I can easily upgrade on. Truth is nobody on a tight budget should have anything to do with a Benz or an Infiniti. (I have progressive experience with both, they are good cars when they work, and money pits when things break), you won't deny this.

If a person looks for recommendation on a potential car and the first yardstick he/she chooses is "cheap parts", followed by "proximity to technicians or ease of repair" and or "low fuel consumption" - I will not recommend a Benz.

However, If he isn't on a budget then we all know the route to take in reference to the phrase "The Benz or Nothing".

I don't hate Mercs, God willing I'll always own one till the day I die, just like my grand dad. Every once in a while, I drive my old boy's 07 S Class and I feel the connection he has with that car (he fixes it himself, that's pure dedication - something I'll never be able to do. He sees nothing wrong with huge repair bills because he handles the labor aspect easily and pays for parts alone, I do!

AutoMoTech:

Though this statement might have been as a result of your personal experience however I disagree.
As a technician, i have seen many many toks and used Benz being used for years without issues. Infact they are very reliable if well maintained.
A badly used benz maybe but to say a benz is a ticking time bomb ? Haba manah

Sir, you are not referring to Mercs built over the past 15-20 years (apart from the S CLASS) by chance are you? There are only a handful vehicles in the same price range that can hold their own against an S Class, as for the other classes Mercedes no send at all, weyreypey knows this and if he's in a good mood - he'll confirm. The bottom-line is Benz owners rarely share their woes.

Mercedes oh my Mercedes..... eddee read up the book my Mercedes is bigger than yours

weyreypey:
Mercedes oh my Mercedes..... eddee read up the book my Mercedes is bigger than yours

I will bro, care to share any links?

Eddee:


Sir, you are not referring to Mercs built over the past 15-20 years (apart from the S CLASS) by chance are you? There are only a handful vehicles in the same price range that can hold their own against an S Class, as for the other classes Mercedes no send at all, weyreypey knows this and if he's in a good mood - he'll confirm. The bottom-line is Benz owners rarely share their woes.

I am. Like i said. U shared from your experience. Doesn't mean thats what all benz owners are experiencing. Like every machine a benz will break down. Yes. But saying its a ticking time bomb. Na him i no gree.
Oya lets go to germany. We will tell them what you said make dem dash us 2 new benz. Make we see when dem go break down.... U gree?


In the end tho. Every machine requires maintenance. If u maintain am wella, u go enjoy am.
Also, its important to have capable technicians/mechanics maintaining your car if not, person just turn him car to ticking time bomb

Eddee:


There's nothing fishy about my car. Full disclosure on everything I do, deep down you know this. I won't lie because of a couple quid on a car, I can easily upgrade on. Truth is nobody on a tight budget should have anything to do with a Benz or an Infiniti. (I have progressive experience with both, they are good cars when they work, and money pits when things break), you won't deny this.

If a person looks for recommendation on a potential car and the first yardstick he/she chooses is "cheap parts", followed by "proximity to technicians or ease of repair" and or "low fuel consumption" - I will not recommend a Benz.

However, If he isn't on a budget then we all know the route to take in reference to the phrase "The Benz or Nothing".

I don't hate Mercs, God willing I'll always own one till the day I die, just like my grand dad. Every once in a while, I drive my old boy's 07 S Class and I feel the connection he has with that car (he fixes it himself, that's pure dedication - something I'll never be able to do. He sees nothing wrong with huge repair bills because he handles the labor aspect easily and pays for parts alone, I do!

You said it all brother....

AutoMoTech:


You said it all brother....

He said nonsense. Utter gibberish... When you compare cars.... It should be context specific.... The w203 C230 2005 Mercedes Benz is by far a more fuel efficient vehicle than the Lexus ES 330 can dream to ever be!! Please be reasonable and rational in giving advice.... You can be held liable for misleading people...

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AutoMoTech:

I am. Like i said. U shared from your experience. Doesn't mean thats what all benz owners are experiencing. Like every machine a benz will break down. Yes. But saying its a ticking time bomb. Na him i no gree.
Oya lets go to germany. We will tell them what you said make dem dash us 2 new benz. Make we see when dem go break down.... U gree?


In [b]the end tho. Every machine requires maintenance. If u maintain am wella, u go enjoy am.
Also, its important to have capable technicians/mechanics [/b]maintaining your car if not, person just turn him car to ticking time bomb

My brother, you're a technician (with a workable knowledge around multiple car systems), so it's very easy for you to keep things in perspective.

If we had qualified mechanics who can at least diagnose a fault without trial and error then every Nigerian can drive a marquee and have peace of mind. If you live in Abuja, Port Harcourt, Kaduna, Kano or Lagos you'll find competent mechanics with at least a C3/C4 clone.

Between Calabar/Uyo there are only three C3/c4 clones (2 in Calabar, 1 kn Uyo... they will charge you an arm and a leg for basic diagnostics and actuations/adaptations (not even programming sef).

This is a problem, you know how difficult and expensive treating a simple misfire on this new Benz engines could be (spark plugs, air hoses, ignition coils, wires, even fuel pump, clogged filters can all cause uncontrollable shaking in your cabin area). An M112's ignition coil is about 4/5k a piece, for the M272 engine we are talking about 7-9k. Fuel pumps (Autokaf and Tibao 19-25k), Fuel filters (24-28k), and once the VDO dies, you'll keep changing the above at least every year if you drive a considerable distance. Most persons use their Mercs for City Driving - mine does well over 800kms on a weekly basis.

All in all, you're right. I shouldn't have generalised that all used Mercs were ticking bombs. That statement was inconsiderate to owners of the 3 pointed star. Weyreypey kindly find a way in your heart to re-induct me into the Benz Hall of Fame

weyreypey:

He said nonsense. Utter gibberish... When you compare cars.... It should be context specific.... The w203 C230 2005 Mercedes Benz is by far a more fuel efficient vehicle than the Lexus ES 330 can dream to ever be!! Please be reasonable and rational in giving advice.... You can be held liable for misleading people...

I beg to differ. He didnt say all rubbish. Read the bolded. Many ppl want to buy a Benz enjoy the luxury it offers but want to maintain it like a 1.4l yaris...

Truth is Benz parts dont come cheap. But they last. Talking specifically from point of view of new suspension parts compared to other cars.

Also in support of what you said, the C180 Kompressor offers good power and economy at the same time...

Eddee:


My brother, you're a technician (with a workable knowledge around multiple car systems), so it's very easy for you to keep things in perspective.

If we had qualified mechanics who can at least diagnose a fault without trial and error then every Nigerian can drive a marquee and have peace of mind. If you live in Abuja, Port Harcourt, Kaduna, Kano or Lagos you'll find competent mechanics with at least a C3/C4 clone.

Between Calabar/Uyo there are only three C3/c4 clones (2 in Calabar, 1 kn Uyo... they will charge you an arm and a leg for basic diagnostics and actuations/adaptations (not even programming sef).

This is a problem, you know how difficult and expensive treating a simple misfire on this new Benz engines could be (spark plugs, air hoses, ignition coils, wires, even fuel pump, clogged filters can all cause uncontrollable shaking in your cabin area). An M112's ignition coil is about 4/5k a piece, for the M272 engine we are talking about 7-9k. Fuel pumps (Autokaf and Tibao 19-25k), Fuel filters (24-28k), and once the VDO dies, you'll keep changing the above at least every year if you drive a considerable distance. Most persons use their Mercs for City Driving - mine does well over 800kms on a weekly basis.

All in all, you're right. I shouldn't have generalised that all used Mercs were ticking bombs. That statement was inconsiderate to owners of the 3 pointed star. Weyreypey kindly find a way in your heart to re-induct me into the Benz Hall of Fame

Wow now I understand your point of view after this explanation. Only 3 ppl get C4 clone? Omo na die be dt o. If person come do programming nko? Hahahaha na cut neck be that