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Immorality Vs Illegality- A Case Of Imaginary "Sex-for-grades by seguntijan(m): 9:10am On Oct 09, 2019 |
Dear Dean: We see this issue differently for several reasons. (1) I condemn in absolute terms all forms of immorality against students. However, I'll never judge what happens between and among adults of same or opposite sex. (2) If a stranger would intrude our privacies and covertly "seduce" colleagues to fish for evidence of perceived "immorality" in a most criminal manner, we must condemn it. (3) We all are victims. If BBC could come to secretly film us, then CIA would be justified to plant secret cameras in our offices and homes to film our activities and discussions as well as our private moments with our wives and husbands in a desperate bid to fish for evidence of "sex for grades" where none exists, to the best of my knowledge. (4) I'm a regular member of the Club and it's cool room. It's a functions room for meetings. An immediate past VC and other prominent Profs were weekly DJs when it was active decades ago. Now, "House of Commons", "Magna Tabla", "Amity", "AGM or Exco meetings of the Club happen at cool room, so as society meetings like Old students, Ijesha Parapo, birthday parties, etc. So, all those indulge in "sex" at those meetings or occassons? Haba!!!! (5) The stupid fellow talking thrash to impress the lady is not even a known member. If at all a financial member, he has not been to Club in the last 4 years. (6) Why should a whole system and its people suffer because of "attempted immorality" on account of "illegality" of extorting evidence by covert means? At a time the current regime is restoring our global ranking !!! (7) Why would a decent media use images of a Dean, Liberian, Unilag management and others to "spice-up" it's intended sensationalisation by an award-pursing journalist? ( ![]() (9) It is in our collective interest to disaggregate issues. Better for Igbinehu to pay for his sins than to rubbish the certificates of past and current students and stigmatize everyone, particularly lecturers. (10) A calm review of the entire documentary will also show that there is no evidence that sexuality is taking place in the Cool Room from the full documentary. There is nothing untowards in having adult ladies at a birthday party. That the party was to celebrate a birthday reinforces that the room is more of a function room. What is wrong with inviting adult male and female (students or staff) to a birthday party? There was nothing in the video showing anyone playing with breasts as Igbinebu had alleged. For me, like countless others, we're becoming increasingly very vulnerable. This is beyond Igbinehu, but about Unilag, its past, present and future. God bless-Y.O. |
Re: Immorality Vs Illegality- A Case Of Imaginary "Sex-for-grades by immortalcrown(m): 9:16am On Oct 09, 2019 |
Not all legal actions are right, and not all illegal actions are wrong. That something is legal simply means it is contained in constitution and or approved by law. That does not mean that whatever is not in the constitution is wrong. Is it in the constitution that I should give money to poor beggars? Or, it wrong for me to give money to the beggars? BBC's action, regarding the issue at hand, will be considered wrong, if it is later discovered that BBC has a bad intention for the broadcast. But if BBC's concern is to curb sexual harassment, your statement is not sound. |
Re: Immorality Vs Illegality- A Case Of Imaginary "Sex-for-grades by Mynd44: 9:51am On Oct 09, 2019 |
You can be fired based on immorality. It is illegal in Nigeria to have any type of romantic relationship with a student as long as you are a lecturer in the university and the student is an undergraduate In the case of UNILAG, the lady presented herself as a 17 year old. This is below the age of consent in Lagos |
Re: Immorality Vs Illegality- A Case Of Imaginary "Sex-for-grades by MANNABBQGRILLS: 10:22am On Oct 09, 2019 |
Mynd44:This is so true. You hit the nail on the head. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Immorality Vs Illegality- A Case Of Imaginary "Sex-for-grades by Ulaga12: 10:41am On Oct 09, 2019 |
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Re: Immorality Vs Illegality- A Case Of Imaginary "Sex-for-grades by Mynd44: 10:42am On Oct 09, 2019 |
post=82976211: In every part of this, the lectures have been found wanting and can't wiggle out of this. The claim that she is not a student hence it wasn't sex for grades or that she "came on to them" is pointless as she is a minor and hence it is a crime. In the case of Oladipo, you meet a lady at the staff club and you went on to her. The rule that forbids student-lecturer relationship takes prominence as if she was a student, that was what you would have done. Although he hasn't committed any crime yet, it was immoral and he could be fired for it |
Re: Immorality Vs Illegality- A Case Of Imaginary "Sex-for-grades by seguntijan(m): 8:58am On Oct 10, 2019 |
What of the other Cold Rooms? I have read so many posts on what universities can do to mitigate the sexForMarks dilemma. Very valid points except that I think cutting a tree from the head won't kill it. Don't get me wrong, many of those suggestions will help reduce it, but we are forgetting we already have a culture where moral values are becoming non existent. If we shout because a lecturer from whom very high morals are expected turns around to solicit for sex to give favours , what then do we say about Pastors, Imams and clerics who do same to their congregants or students? From whom do we expect more? So many scandals have rocked churches, and I personally know of an Islamic school where a scandal hit about two young teenage students who were impregnated by their teachers. A pidgin proverb goes "na pesin we dem catch na im be thief", what you see in the university is a manifestation of a wider problem pervading the society! It starts from as early as when a girl is a baby (pedophilia) through primary and secondary schools, then the university, then at the work places (SexForPromotion) etc. Let us not zoom in and be myopic about this but look at the wider picture. The society, our society, reeks of the stench of oversexualisation. The place of a woman as an integral part of the society has been reduced to a mere object for sexual satisfaction. When we complained about BBNija they said we were playing holier than thou. A society that feels comfortable with a rot in morals should be prepared to face the consequences. Now we have exposed the rot in those lecturers who request for sexForMarks, I hope we will one day see another on students who 'offer' sexForMarks. The excuse is that the man should be man enough to always say no, said by people who can hardly resist the aroma of jollof rice! Why not close the door totally? At the point we have reached, it would be difficult to retrace our steps on morality, so perhaps the suggestions are the last options to try to salvage what is left in our institutions. However if you are one of those who see nothing wrong in lewdity, nudity and sexual inappropriateness in public, one of those who supported BBNija and every other such program that promotes immorality, then you are part of the problem. A. Haroun |
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