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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 10:22am On Oct 09, 2019
homesteady:


Oh wow! I forgot I was dealing with "Airmark". Time doesn't really change some things.

Next time, don't start writing irrelevant story for a YES or NO question.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Whizlight(m): 10:47am On Oct 09, 2019
airmark:


Next time, don't start writing irrelevant story for a YES or NO question.
u guy dont grow tired of aurguing
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by homesteady(m): 10:57am On Oct 09, 2019
airmark:


Next time, don't start writing irrelevant story for a YES or NO question.

That's why you will always continue to be airhead. This will rank high as one of the most stupid thing you've said here on nairaland. Even the guy that had the original tweet has disappeared because he later realized that the post doesn't make any sense.

Even a newbie here knows the drill here, so I wonder why you have decided to display your true self this morning.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 11:06am On Oct 09, 2019
rooneys wife twitter grin grin grin

Omo see investigative work cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 11:09am On Oct 09, 2019
afrodoc2:


He is overrated. His paltry number of league titles despite coaching multiple all time greats tells us all about him.

Zidane that won 3 UCL back to back to back despite underachieving in the league should give you guys an idea about what goes into winning or losing the UCL title.



If you win what he's won you deserve to be rated extremely high. 3 Champions league and He also won the double in his first season in the PL, something not many managers can say. Who knows how much further success he might have had if Chelsea hadn't decided to Chelsea him out of the club?
He's obviously a very good manager, you can maybe fluke one Champions League but not 3. He's not at the all-time great level but definitely not overrated.

If you argue that his relatively underwhelming league record undermines his overall outstanding success then why couldn't others argue that SAF's relatively underwhelming success in Europe undermines his overall standing too? I think nitpicking to that degree is a bit silly, no manager is perfect. You just have to judge the overall package and I think in Ancelotti's case it's a pretty outstanding one.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 11:18am On Oct 09, 2019
homesteady:


[s]That's why you will always continue to be airhead. This will rank high as one of the most stupid thing you've said here on nairaland. Even the guy that had the original tweet has disappeared because he later realized that the post doesn't make any sense.

Even a newbie here knows the drill here, so I wonder why you have decided to display your true self this morning.[/s]

Come back when Neymar's goals match Hazard's best league season goals in France. Maybe this will be easier for your dumb brain to comprehend.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 11:46am On Oct 09, 2019
Swissh:

Ordinary simple question. They had Messi,xavi and iniesta the 2 seasons before Guardiola took over right? Can you tell us what they won during those 2 seasons? No need for long Epistles just list the trophy/trophies

When Rijkaard took over Barca the previous 3 seasons they had finished 4th, 4th and 6th. They were in a real mess, much worse than when Pep took over. Yet even an average coach like Rijkaard, when working in the Barca structure was able to win both La Liga and the Champions league. So it shows there are very good reasons why people are still unsure about Pep. I don't get why there is this resistance to that kind of very reasonable thinking. Look at how the Spanish team was dominating internationally at that time, with Xavi and Iniesta at the heart of it. They were the best players at Euro 2008. Am I supposed to believe Luis Aragones is an amazing coach, as Spain were pretty fantastic at that time and this was before Pep? Then when Pep left Barca, didn't they win the league with their best ever points total, despite Tito being seriously ill and having to manage without him for much of the season. A coach less Barca creating records. If Pep was so vital to Barca's success, then how can he be replaced so easily by someone who is only there part time? Is Luis Enrique an amazing manager?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 12:50pm On Oct 09, 2019
nihilistjnr:
rooneys wife twitter grin grin grin

Omo see investigative work cheesy
Loudest call out...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 12:54pm On Oct 09, 2019
spillo1:


When Rijkaard took over Barca the previous 3 seasons they had finished 4th, 4th and 6th. They were in a real mess, much worse than when Pep took over. Yet even an average coach like Rijkaard, when working in the Barca structure was able to win both La Liga and the Champions league. So it shows there are very good reasons why people are still unsure about Pep. I don't get why there is this resistance to that kind of very reasonable thinking. Look at how the Spanish team was dominating internationally at that time, with Xavi and Iniesta at the heart of it. They were the best players at Euro 2008. Am I supposed to believe Luis Aragones is an amazing coach, as Spain were pretty fantastic at that time and this was before Pep? Then when Pep left Barca, didn't they win the league with their best ever points total, despite Tito being seriously ill and having to manage without him for much of the season. A coach less Barca creating records. If Pep was so vital to Barca's success, then how can he be replaced so easily by someone who is only there part time? Is Luis Enrique an amazing manager?

10 likes from me.. grin grin

#Fraudiola
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by homesteady(m): 1:10pm On Oct 09, 2019
airmark:


Come back when Neymar's goals match Hazard's best league season goals in France. Maybe this will be easier for your dumb brain to comprehend.

Lol!! Anybody with an iota of sense after seeing their stats will know that Neymar has done better, Neymar was just one goal away from reaching Hazard best of 20, in just 19 matches, while Hazard used 38 matches to get the 20. Sensible people wouldn't even think of comparing both players stats in league one, or have you seen Neymar fanboys coming up with his good stats in league one whenever Neymar vs Hazard arguments is on going?

If you can be saying this kind of nonsense, what do we expect the sheep you are leading at the Citadel to say? grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by randomperson: 1:29pm On Oct 09, 2019
thorrvik55:


This is ridiculous..... How old was Hazard when he left French league? How old is Neymar now?

No one is judging Neymar by his league stats in French league, it's his UCL stats that matter and BTW, Neymar's UCL stats trumps Hazard's... In fact, I don't think what hazard has in UCL qualifies as a stat

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 1:31pm On Oct 09, 2019
homesteady:


[s]Lol!! Anybody with an iota of sense after seeing their stats will know that Neymar has done better, Neymar was just one goal away from reaching Hazard best of 20, in just 19 matches, while Hazard used 38 matches to get the 20. Sensible people wouldn't even think of comparing both players stats in league one, or have you seen Neymar fanboys coming up with his good stats in league one whenever Neymar vs Hazard arguments is on going?

If you can be saying this kind of nonsense, what do we expect the sheep you are leading in the Citadel to say? grin grin[/s]

My question was directed to Dayo, for a reason but you are known for foolishly jumping on posts that are beyond your mental grasp.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 1:36pm On Oct 09, 2019
spillo1:


When Rijkaard took over Barca the previous 3 seasons they had finished 4th, 4th and 6th. They were in a real mess, much worse than when Pep took over. Yet even an average coach like Rijkaard, when working in the Barca structure was able to win both La Liga and the Champions league. So it shows there are very good reasons why people are still unsure about Pep. I don't get why there is this resistance to that kind of very reasonable thinking. Look at how the Spanish team was dominating internationally at that time, with Xavi and Iniesta at the heart of it. They were the best players at Euro 2008. Am I supposed to believe Luis Aragones is an amazing coach, as Spain were pretty fantastic at that time and this was before Pep? Then when Pep left Barca, didn't they win the league with their best ever points total, despite Tito being seriously ill and having to manage without him for much of the season. A coach less Barca creating records. If Pep was so vital to Barca's success, then how can he be replaced so easily by someone who is only there part time? Is Luis Enrique an amazing manager?

I had replied that foolish boy that Barca won UCL before Fraudiola came, yet he kept asking me what they won before he came. I don't know if he's physically and mentally blind.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 1:38pm On Oct 09, 2019
spillo1:




If you win what he's won you deserve to be rated extremely high. 3 Champions league and He also won the double in his first season in the PL, something not many managers can say. Who knows how much further success he might have had if Chelsea hadn't decided to Chelsea him out of the club?
He's obviously a very good manager, you can maybe fluke one Champions League but not 3. He's not at the all-time great level but definitely not overrated.

If you argue that his relatively underwhelming league record undermines his overall outstanding success then why couldn't others argue that SAF's relatively underwhelming success in Europe undermines his overall standing too? I think nitpicking to that degree is a bit silly, no manager is perfect. You just have to judge the overall package and I think in Ancelotti's case it's a pretty outstanding one.


Why are you arguing with me when from your post you agree with me?

I didn’t say he was a bad manager. I just said he was being rated higher than he should be.

You say he is not an all time great, however there are people that think he is. Therefore by your own admission he is overrated, or what do you call a person who is rated by some as an all time great when he is not one?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:48pm On Oct 09, 2019
airmark:
cheesy cheesy cheesy

Ramdeuter, is this true? Just a YES or NO answer please.

So Hazard is comparing himself to a 22yr ol Neymar

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 1:59pm On Oct 09, 2019
spillo1:


When Rijkaard took over Barca the previous 3 seasons they had finished 4th, 4th and 6th. They were in a real mess, much worse than when Pep took over. Yet even an average coach like Rijkaard, when working in the Barca structure was able to win both La Liga and the Champions league. So it shows there are very good reasons why people are still unsure about Pep. I don't get why there is this resistance to that kind of very reasonable thinking. Look at how the Spanish team was dominating internationally at that time, with Xavi and Iniesta at the heart of it. They were the best players at Euro 2008. Am I supposed to believe Luis Aragones is an amazing coach, as Spain were pretty fantastic at that time and this was before Pep? Then when Pep left Barca, didn't they win the league with their best ever points total, despite Tito being seriously ill and having to manage without him for much of the season. A coach less Barca creating records. If Pep was so vital to Barca's success, then how can he be replaced so easily by someone who is only there part time? Is Luis Enrique an amazing manager?

Check around especially at Chelsea you will get your answers.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 2:02pm On Oct 09, 2019
Eruditor:


Trust me, I want to like you but you just don't have sense.

See all the stupid questions you are asking me when I have quoted the upper echelons of Bayern and also given a citation.

Look at the daft question you are asking me about why will clubs not want to hire a treble winner. What big club had that vacancy at the time?

Bayern will force him to un-retire and then pay Pep money for 3 years for contract breach?

Why are you the way you are?
i don't need your likeness.

Upper echelons of Bayern my foot.

Many clubs will sack their current manager just to hire jupp at that time.


He does not need Bayern to hire him again if he announces that he is no longer retiring. Clubs will fall over themselves to hire him. A treble winner, playing breathtaking football
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 2:05pm On Oct 09, 2019
raumdeuter:


So Hazard is comparing himself to a 22yr ol Neymar

You didn't consider the ages when you misled people below. You made it look as if he scored 39 in his first season. grin

raumdeuter:


Neymar went to La liga farmers league dropped 39


Why can't your 28yr old Neymar outscore the highest league goals in a season, scored by a 21 yr old shakushaku Hazard, in France?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 2:06pm On Oct 09, 2019
Eruditor:


God help you.

Confirmed win my foot. As if you did not know that goal was the last kick of the game in which 99.9% of teams will push up to see if they can get anything.

At 2-1 CFC were going through which is why Barca had to be that desperate. That goal just like the penalty miss was cosmetic.
with all this nonsense you dey type, You no know ball.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 2:11pm On Oct 09, 2019
Eruditor:


But I accepted 36k for you

I only said for Nihilist it will mean nothing to him if he loses it.

I want you to bet 36k. So you won't be so quick to argue with me next time.
oga, no dey fear.

How you take know say 5k no go pain me if i lose am?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Whizlight(m): 2:13pm On Oct 09, 2019
airmark:


You didn't consider the ages when you misled people below. You made it look as if he scored 39 in his first season. grin




Why can't your 28yr old Neymar outscore the highest league goals in a season, scored by a 21 yr old shakushaku Hazard, in France?




Wait is hazard ur brother. Answer me oo airmark. Why will someone just carry other person problem on his head. Be here auguring while hazard makes his money
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 2:16pm On Oct 09, 2019
homesteady:


You should have known better than posting this nonsense here.
Hazard best tally in French league? Neymar has already surpassed Hazard total league 1 goals with less than 100 matches.

Hazard "best season": 38 games - 20 goals

Neymar league 1 total: 42 games - 38 goals. (In 3 seasons)

Hazard total: 147 games - 36 goals.

The comparison is silly at best, Hazard was still developing while he was in league 1, and Neymar went there as a super star, so of course, Neymar should do far better.

But I'm 100% sure that Hazard will not do better than Neymar first season in Barcelona. Even though that was his first season in Europe, played under the joint most useless coach in recent Barcelona history and had fitness issues, his first season with Barcelona will still be better than Hazard's first season in Madrid.
airmark, nihilistjnr. There is something to bookmark here

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 2:17pm On Oct 09, 2019
afrodoc2:


He is overrated. His paltry number of league titles despite coaching multiple all time greats tells us all about him.

Zidane that won 3 UCL back to back to back despite underachieving in the league should give you guys an idea about what goes into winning or losing the UCL title.
but you will be telling us another day how winning the ucl is better than anything.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 2:23pm On Oct 09, 2019
Greatihex:
airmark, nihilistjnr. There is something to bookmark here

Thank you jare, Dayo always lead them to burn their fingers. Neymar's goals that season in all competitions - 15.

Homesteady na mumu, he should put money where his mouth is that Hazard won't score more than 15.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 2:23pm On Oct 09, 2019
Whizlight:

u guy dont grow tired of aurguing

Whizlight:
Wait is hazard ur brother. Answer me oo airmark. Why will someone just carry other person problem on his head. Be here auguring while hazard makes his money

Why must i answer you?

My auguring here shouldn't give you seizures to be mistyping. Go and fix your life, don't bother about me not making money.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 2:29pm On Oct 09, 2019
Chelsea are preparing a stunning offer of over €210million to land Neymar in July amid Barcelona interest. #CFC [Don Balon] https:///6BRxbUlv96


How authentic is this news biko
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 2:30pm On Oct 09, 2019
popizaino:
Chelsea are preparing a stunning offer of over €210million to land Neymar in July amid Barcelona interest. #CFC [Don Balon] https:///6BRxbUlv96


How authentic is this news biko

Fake news, Neymar's influencers have started again.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:35pm On Oct 09, 2019
airmark:
You didn't consider the ages when you misled people below. You made it look as if he scored 39 in his first season. grin
Why can't your 28yr old Neymar outscore the highest league goals in a season, scored by a 21 yr old shakushaku Hazard, in France?

Common sense is needed

If a player joins Man Utd and claims he is better than Ronaldo, will they compare his output today to Ronaldo when he first joined Man Utd

Will anyone say Daniel James is better than Ronaldo if he scored more goals than Ronaldos first season?

Common sense will dictate that he needs to beat the best ever Ronaldo season

Hazard needds to beat the best ever Neymar season in Barca

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 2:45pm On Oct 09, 2019
raumdeuter:


[s]Common sense is needed

If a player joins Man Utd and claims he is better than Ronaldo, will they compare his output today to Ronaldo when he first joined Man Utd

Will anyone say Daniel James is better than Ronaldo because he scored more goals than Ronaldos first season?[/s]

Stupid example, senseless post.

If a player claims to be better than C. Ronaldo and that player goes to epl and couldn't outscore Ronaldo's best league goals in a season, in two attempts, such player would be asked to go and sit down. This is exactly what you asked Hazard to do in Laliga and you even asked him to do it in his first attempt, when you said he must score 40.

Can you see how you don't think well before posting your mumu requests and views?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 2:47pm On Oct 09, 2019
Greatihex:
but you will be telling us another day how winning the ucl is better than anything.

You seem simple-minded.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by homesteady(m): 2:47pm On Oct 09, 2019
airmark:


My question was directed to Dayo, for a reason but you are known for foolishly jumping on posts that are beyond your mental grasp.

Lol, when your folly has been exposed, why wouldn't you bring up silly excuses like this?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 2:54pm On Oct 09, 2019
cheesy

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