homesteady:


This one don get foolery induced amnesia
Please where did you tell me such?

Check my past post, that you ignored.

Are you now ready? Hazard scores more than 15 goals in all competitions. $100, game?

popizaino:
The same jupp heyckens finished trophyless with a pre tournament favourite team like bayern Munich let that one sink in. Pep guardiola never had to finish trophyless with bayern Munich


Mancini competed against good team, but pep guardiola who had to beat a sir Alex Frauduson team with Ronaldo competed against a bad team I guess.

Which of your favourite coaches will ever come out victorious if they had to face a fergie side including Ronaldo, Rooney,even if they were given the trio of Messi, xavi and Iniesta? Pep guardiola is not your ordinary coach take a bow for the greatest of all time.



You might want to argue he had the trio of Messi, xavi and Iniesta pls why didn't the trio show up against bayern Munich when they were scoring seven goals past them without Pep guardiola?


Where were the trio of xavi, Iniesta Messi when El-classico was one sided in favour of real Madrid before pep guardiola took over and turned it to an easy ride for Barcelona?


For most of the time pep guardiola never made the finals it was either his player missing a spot kick of missing clearcut chances.

Pep is the only coach to give Fergie partial Parkinson at the 2011 final .Outclassed him on the two occasions they met (Champions league final) playing Yaya at CB and Sylvinho against a team with prime Rooney,Vidic etc.Turned El Clasico into a circus beating almighty Mourinho fresh from inter milan with a record scoreline, won 6 trophies in a season and each country he goes to apart from England,they coincidentally win the WC.Dude won the EPL last season with a record point and has again turned the almighty premier league into a two horse race.But a lot of clowns still thinks he has the win the champions league with another club when Fergie the greatest EPL manager of all time won it only twice in 26 years.lol

airmark:


Check my past post, that you ignored.

Are you now ready? Hazard scores more than 15 goals in all competitions. $100, game?

Hazard does not outscore Neymars best season $1,000

Adiwana:


Pep is the only coach to give Fergie partial Parkinson at the 2011 final .Outclassed him on the two occasions they met (Champions league final) playing Yaya at CB and Sylvinho against a team with prime Rooney,Vidic etc.Turned El Clasico into a circus beating almighty Mourinho fresh from inter milan with a record scoreline, won 6 trophies in a season and each country he goes to apart from England,they coincidentally win the WC.Dude won the EPL last season with a record point and has again turned the almighty premier league into a two horse race.But a lot of clowns still thinks he has the win the champions league with another club when Fergie the greatest EPL manager of all time won it only twice in 26 years.lol

So that's the feat Fraudiola is targeting, but Ferguson didn't leave for another team.

Let Fraudiola win without those 3 midgets that carried him beyond his ability at Barca. Without him those guys won UCL.

You can't be spending money on AK 47 just because you want to kill rats. He should win UCL.

airmark:


Check my past post, that you ignored.

Are you now ready? Hazard scores more than 15 goals in all competitions. $100, game?

the bar in underground. Jesus

Adiwana:


This is the dumbest Shiit I have read today.

What resources has Ferguson not have access to?? Funds?? players?? Dude had a Ronaldo, Rooney, Giggs,Van Der Saar,Vidic,Scholes in his starting 11.All world class players.How much are this players in today's evaluations??No football Club in the world can assemble this team so far as today's market is concerned and dude lost a champions league final to a Yaya Toure at CB and Busquet who had barely kicked a ball at the highest level of football

Not taking anything away from Fergie but just because the transfer market is over bloated doesn't mean the resources was not there for Fergie.That again Fergie decided to pilot his own affairs without necessarily signing some Ronaldinho or Raul to win doesn't mean the funds wasn't the. Smh

What are you talking about..Fergie couldn't field two starting 11 teams of nearly the same quality as man city do now... Most of those players you lsted there were unearthed gems,some came from the academy......the resources pep has had is night and day to anything fergie ever had.....
For example pep has spent over quarter a billion just to upgrade his fullbacks...that's insane

Eruditor:


Now I know you are no better than some of the other slow guys.

A Barca team that went trophyless, sold their best players and were 16pts or more behind RM in the league the previous season became favourites, how?

I am sure you have forgotten United were defending champions coming into that season and final.

Were you 12 or what? Cos going I into that final majority acknowledge barca were already the best team in europe.
Team had iniesta xavi Yaya busquetz in midfield,a frontline of Messi,henry,eto'o..
Just because they were not good in previous seasons doesn't dispute that fact.....there is no way on earth manu were favourites going into that final,u must be kidding me.....ffs barca had a prime xavi in midfield delivering over 35 assists that season....barca were far away the best team in europe as that point..

popizaino:



Even Chelsea with a caretaker could win the ucl and fà in record time. Spain won a competition but did not dominate point of correction. They needed a penalty shoot out to knock out an azzuri side without pirlo, gattuso and most of the other senior players that won World Cup 2006 with them. Your other points are dead on arrival. el-classico results with Ronaldinho was 4- 1 and 0-1 all in favour of Madrid.

You just exposed yourself as a typical Wikipedia analysis. You just googled the euros,saw that they drew Italy and came here to spew absolute fallacy. The went through out the knock out stage conceding 0 goal and went all though unbeaten. Only someone who didn't watch euros 08 will say Spain wasn't dominate. The two tournament Spain dominated are both Euros8 & 12.

The bolded is absolute ridiculous and exposes you more as a Wikipedia expert. You spew rubbish with confidence . Where did you get those rubbish from? Barca didn't win at bernabeu for straight seven seasons until Ronaldinho came and in his first season Barca won with him providing an assist to xavi. In his 2nd match at bernabeu he completely destroyed Madrid Singlehandedly. It was Ronaldinho/Rijkaard era that ushered in Barca dominace and tip the scale of El classico not any Pep. Go and sit down

Lampard on Willian:

‘His work ethic off the ball, we talk to the wingers and what we want off the ball we can show them that video of what Willian did today. His quality, his bursts of pace, on the ball what he can do, the last four or five games I think he’s been our best player."


Enemies can continue to drink liquid soap for pleasure.

airmark:


Check my past post, that you ignored.

Are you now ready? Hazard scores more than 15 goals in all competitions. $100, game?

If you don't mention me, I will most likely not see it.

Check my last post to Greatihex, and besides, I don't even gamble.

kendrick93:

What are you talking about..Fergie couldn't field two starting 11 teams of nearly the same quality as man city do now... Most of those players you lsted there were unearthed gems,some came from the academy......the resources pep has had is night and day to anything fergie ever had.....
For example pep has spent over quarter a billion just to upgrade his fullbacks...that's insane

Pep spent 50M on Walker and 52M on Mendy. Roughly 26M on Cancelo.

How is that quarter of a billion?

How much did United spend on Wan-bissaka?

spillo1:


You just exposed yourself as a typical Wikipedia analysis. You just googled the euros,saw that they drew Italy and came here to spew absolute fallacy. The went through out the knock out stage conceding 0 goal and went all though unbeaten. Only someone who didn't watch euros 08 will say Spain wasn't dominate. The two tournament Spain dominated are both Euros8 & 12.

The bolded is absolute ridiculous and exposes you more as a Wikipedia expert. You spew rubbish with confidence . Where did you get those rubbish from? Barca didn't win at bernabeu for straight seven seasons until Ronaldinho came and in his first season Barca won with him providing an assist to xavi. In his 2nd match at bernabeu he completely destroyed Madrid Singlehandedly. It was Ronaldinho/Rijkaard era that ushered in Barca dominace and tip the scale of El classico not any Pep. Go and sit down

Marcos Senna was the heartbeat of that Euro 2008 team . Xavi was pretty great, not as great as Senna even though he won player of the tournament. Senna was the engine and centre of all passing plays.
Iniesta was just a passenger till the semi Final

kendrick93:

Were you 12 or what? Cos going I into that final majority acknowledge barca were already the best team in europe.
Team had iniesta xavi Yaya busquetz in midfield,a frontline of Messi,henry,eto'o..
Just because they were not good in previous seasons doesn't dispute that fact.....there is no way on earth manu were favourites going into that final,u must be kidding me.....ffs barca had a prime xavi in midfield delivering over 35 assists that season....barca were far away the best team in europe as that point..

I am losing my patience with how dull you are.

You are using what that team achieved that season to argue how good they were before the season. Is everything okay upstairs?

Going into the final? Who managed them when they had to play qualifiers before getting into the UCL let alone finals?

Have you ever seen favorites playing qualifiers for the actual competition?

Xavi had over 35 assists that season? Who coached him into having 35 assists?

You don't see that you are making my argument for me.

Kimbeast:


Marcos Senna was the heartbeat of that Euro 2008 team . Xavi was pretty great, not as great as Senna even though he won player of the tournament. Senna was the engine and centre of all passing plays.
Iniesta was just a passenger till the semi Final

They were the greatest duo in the world.

The best midfielders winning everything in sight.

The kind of revisionist nonsense I read here daily because Pep is involved.

spillo1:

The bolded is absolute ridiculous and exposes you more as a Wikipedia expert. You spew rubbish with confidence . Where did you get those rubbish from? Barca didn't win at bernabeu for straight seven seasons until Ronaldinho came and in his first season Barca won with him providing an assist to xavi. In his 2nd match at bernabeu he completely destroyed Madrid Singlehandedly. It was Ronaldinho/Rijkaard era that ushered in Barca dominace and tip the scale of El classico not any Pep. Go and sit down

Ronaldinho was there when RM won the league 2006-2007/2007-2008

He was there when Madrid beat Barca 4-1 after Barca had given RM a guard of honor.

See how you are brandishing your ignorance with alacrity.

FBS:
Lampard on Willian:

‘His work ethic off the ball, we talk to the wingers and what we want off the ball we can show them that video of what Willian did today. His quality, his bursts of pace, on the ball what he can do, the last four or five games I think he’s been our best player."


Enemies can continue to drink liquid soap for pleasure.

Willian has been on fire.

Pep is overrated, most football lovers know this fact.

homesteady:


Fear that he will do it? Why shouldn't he do it? If Neymar that you people are saying he is better than did it at 21 years, so why shouldn't Hazard at 28 even do better.

But I know he wouldn't do it, is it not Hazard? Make we sit down dey watch.

Can you put money on it?

Eruditor:


I am losing my patience with how dull you are.

You are using what that team achieved that season to argue how good they were before the season. Is everything okay upstairs?

Going into the final? Who managed them when they had to play qualifiers before getting into the UCL let alone finals?

Have you ever seen favorites playing qualifiers for the actual competition?

Xavi had over 35 assists that season? Who coached him into having 35 assists?

You don't see that you are making my argument for me.

I'm not saying pep didn't do anything, of course he did well playing the kind of football and winning trophies but what I'm saying is he had a quality team,a solid base to build on.. A team that contains iniesta,puyol,abidal,alves,xavi,iniesta, henry,eto'o and a 23yr old Messi isn't a dud team.... They massively underperformed in previous seasons. The moment pep sold Ronaldinho who was at the time a bad influence and gave Messi the keys,half of his job was Already done...
My main gripe with you is you saying man united were favourites going into that final, they weren't....

Adiwana:


Pep is the only coach to give Fergie partial Parkinson at the 2011 final .Outclassed him on the two occasions they met (Champions league final) playing Yaya at CB and Sylvinho against a team with prime Rooney,Vidic etc.Turned El Clasico into a circus beating almighty Mourinho fresh from inter milan with a record scoreline, won 6 trophies in a season and each country he goes to apart from England,they coincidentally win the WC.Dude won the EPL last season with a record point and has again turned the almighty premier league into a two horse race.But a lot of clowns still thinks he has the win the champions league with another club when Fergie the greatest EPL manager of all time won it only twice in 26 years.lol

And after his third season at barca he ran away, mourinho madrid won the league and chelsea knocked him out.... typical pep,he doesn't like challenges....I'm betting my money that Pep will leave city this season or next especially if he doesn't win the European cup or the Premier league

FBS:
Lampard on Willian:

‘His work ethic off the ball, we talk to the wingers and what we want off the ball we can show them that video of what Willian did today. His quality, his bursts of pace, on the ball what he can do, the last four or five games I think he’s been our best player."


Enemies can continue to drink liquid soap for pleasure.

#OurNumber10

kendrick93:

Were you 12 or what? Cos going I into that final majority acknowledge barca were already the best team in europe.
Team had iniesta xavi Yaya busquetz in midfield,a frontline of Messi,henry,eto'o..
Just because they were not good in previous seasons doesn't dispute that fact.....there is no way on earth manu were favourites going into that final,u must be kidding me.....ffs barca had a prime xavi in midfield delivering over 35 assists that season....barca were far away the best team in europe as that point..

That you want to magnify that Barcelona of 2008/2009 more than how they were as at that time proves you are only doing so with the benefit of hindsight.


A team you all swore were going to get beaten by man united cus they had a weakling like pique leading the back line becomes the best team today cus guardiola exceeded your expectations with them.

A team with valdez as goalkeeper that you all love to belittle suddenly becomes the best team because pep guardiola won it all with them

A team with an unproductive Iniesta is the best team today cus they had a manager who believed in them to win it all

A team many predicted were going to suffer cus they had just lost their best player Ronaldinho is now the best team in the world.


A team that has not won league in two years in a farmer's league like laliga is better than a team on the course for a 3rd successful league triumph in a row.


A Barcelona team that last won the ucl two years ago is better than a man united team that previously won the ucl going unbeaten in two years.


Well I want to believe you but this facts are making me to have a second thought.

Eruditor:


[s] Ronaldinho was there when RM won the league 2006-2007/2007-2008

He was there when Madrid beat Barca 4-1 after Barca had given RM a guard of honor.

See how you are brandishing your ignorance with alacrity. [/s]

This is irrelevant to my point. Please Just Stop mentioning me.

FBS:
Lampard on Willian:

‘His work ethic off the ball, we talk to the wingers and what we want off the ball we can show them that video of what Willian did today. His quality, his bursts of pace, on the ball what he can do, the last four or five games I think he’s been our best player."


Enemies can continue to drink liquid soap for pleasure.

Baptism in River Jordan is no joke

spillo1:


You just exposed yourself as a typical Wikipedia analysis. You just googled the euros,saw that they drew Italy and came here to spew absolute fallacy. The went through out the knock out stage conceding 0 goal and went all though unbeaten. Only someone who didn't watch euros 08 will say Spain wasn't dominate. The two tournament Spain dominated are both Euros8 & 12.

The bolded is absolute ridiculous and exposes you more as a Wikipedia expert. You spew rubbish with confidence . Where did you get those rubbish from? Barca didn't win at bernabeu for straight seven seasons until Ronaldinho came and in his first season Barca won with him providing an assist to xavi. In his 2nd match at bernabeu he completely destroyed Madrid Singlehandedly. It was Ronaldinho/Rijkaard era that ushered in Barca dominace and tip the scale of El classico not any Pep. Go and sit down

Laughing at your ignorance for calling me a wikipedia analyst.súre there are petty arguments in football that skips your mind once in a while that one needs to runs to Google for rescue but not obvious instances like this italy vs Spain.
Your other posts are not worth attending to because you didn't grab my earlier post you quoted.

kendrick93:

What are you talking about..Fergie couldn't field two starting 11 teams of nearly the same quality as man city do now... Most of those players you lsted there were unearthed gems,some came from the academy......the resources pep has had is night and day to anything fergie ever had.....
For example pep has spent over quarter a billion just to upgrade his fullbacks...that's insane

Dude you are really sounding ridiculous.Only Aguero and Kevin De Bryune are the only two players in this current Man City squad quality wise that can make that team that I listed and you said Fergie couldn't field the same quality team as Pep?? Prime Berbatov that was EPL highest goal scorer didn't even make a champions league final squad list.Prime Tevez left because he was dropped from the champions league final against Barca.what are you talking about??

If you want to call some of those players unearthed gems from the academy,then what do you call the team Pep played with at Barca??Pique that i only saw once in a Man united shirt was playing in a champions league final.Dude assembled the greatest team ever seen in world football with academy players.

Again,Fergie had the resources.He was only a firm believer on not spending ridiculous amount of money on players.

airmark:


So that's the feat Fraudiola is targeting, but Ferguson didn't leave for another team.

Let Fraudiola win without those 3 midgets that carried him beyond his ability at Barca. Without him those guys won UCL.

You can't be spending money on AK 47 just because you want to kill rats. He should win UCL.

So its now an excuse to win twice in 26 years just because you didn't leave for another team??You modern day football fans really amaze me.lol

FBS:
Lampard on Willian:

‘His work ethic off the ball, we talk to the wingers and what we want off the ball we can show them that video of what Willian did today. His quality, his bursts of pace, on the ball what he can do, the last four or five games I think he’s been our best player."


Enemies can continue to drink liquid soap for pleasure.

Do not trivialize the power in the name of Jesus Christ. You can’t get baptized and not have sense especially in River Jordan.

Jah be praised.

Egbon how far? Been a while o

SkimpleD:

Do not trivialize the power in the name of Jesus Christ. You can’t get baptized and not have sense especially in River Jordan.

Jah be praised.

Egbon how far? Been a while o

Lol

Fr tho FBS has been the most improved player in our squad this season, and he's been especially good since CHO returned to the team.



I still want him out tho, but if it was a direct choice between him and Pedro, Pedro can eff off.

Adiwana:


Dude you are really sounding ridiculous.Only Aguero and Kevin De Bryune are the only two players in this current Man City squad quality wise that can make that team that I listed and you said Fergie couldn't field the same quality team as Pep?? Prime Berbatov that was EPL highest goal scorer didn't even make a champions league final squad list.Prime Tevez left because he was dropped from the champions league final against Barca.what are you talking about??

If you want to call some of those players unearthed gems from the academy,then what do you call the team Pep played with at Barca??Pique that i only saw once in a Man united shirt was playing in a champions league final.Dude assembled the greatest team ever seen in world football with academy players.

Again,Fergie had the resources.He was only a firm believer on not spending ridiculous amount of money on players.

The man City having the best squad in Europe becomes a mantra today only because pep guardiola is at the helm of affairs. Give that same man City to their favourite manager and you will hear all manners of excuses starting from Aguero is not his type of striker. He is too short t to connect with crosses from the wing. David silva can't track back to defend. Sané loves to have the ball at his feet he is not suitable for this kind of ball. Benardo silva isn't strong enough. The next team guardiola will be managing will be reference to as having the best team again.

Ours is to continue to debunk their fallacy, whether they choose to believe or not, is entirely their headache.

popizaino:



The man City having the best squad in Europe becomes a mantra today only because pep guardiola is at the helm of affairs. Give that same man City to their favourite manager and you will hear all manners of excuses starting from Aguero is not his type of striker. He is too short t to connect with crosses from the wing. David silva can't track back to defend. Sané loves to have the ball at his feet he is not suitable for this kind of ball. Benardo silva isn't strong enough. The next team guardiola will be managing will be reference to as having the best team again.

Ours is to continue to debunk their fallacy, whether they choose to believe or not, is entirely their headache.

Pep should handle club with limited budget due to club policy like his peers, let’s see what he can do. For now, he is overrated. From established club like Barcelona to bayern Munich, a one horse league and now man city with unlimited budget. He has been able to win ucl with Barcelona, all thanks to Messi, Xavi and iniesta. He should do it with another team like man city, never mind the unlimited budget he is enjoying currently compare to other top coaches.

spillo1:


When Rijkaard took over Barca the previous 3 seasons they had finished 4th, 4th and 6th. They were in a real mess, much worse than when Pep took over. Yet even an average coach like Rijkaard, when working in the Barca structure was able to win both La Liga and the Champions league. So it shows there are very good reasons why people are still unsure about Pep. I don't get why there is this resistance to that kind of very reasonable thinking. Look at how the Spanish team was dominating internationally at that time, with Xavi and Iniesta at the heart of it. They were the best players at Euro 2008. Am I supposed to believe Luis Aragones is an amazing coach, as Spain were pretty fantastic at that time and this was before Pep? Then when Pep left Barca, didn't they win the league with their best ever points total, despite Tito being seriously ill and having to manage without him for much of the season. A coach less Barca creating records. If Pep was so vital to Barca's success, then how can he be replaced so easily by someone who is only there part time? Is Luis Enrique an amazing manager?

At least you are objective unlike the other clowns. Yes Rijkaard took over when Barca was in a bigger mess than pep did,no argument from anyone but by no means was pep job easy as well. Real Madrid had won two titles in a row. Barca had finished 10 points below Villareal and barely qualified for the Champions league. They had to win their last league game to ensure qualification. They were also outclassed in the El Classico in 2007/2008. The decline of ronaldino was obvious . Pep took same really ballsy decisions getting rid of over half of the senior players in his first season for which he received ridicule and criticism from the media and fans. His transfer activity that season resembled a mass exodus. In hindsight it seems remarkable that he got so many decisions right. Comparing his starting 11 in the Champions final to Riijkard's starting 11 just 3 years ago they had only two players in common - Puyol and Valdes. That team was torn down and rebuilt. Ofcourse its much easier now to just say he had a great team to work with and everybody's grandmother could have won trophies with that team.