hardeycute:
Wetin Marc do different?

Adiwana:
Some clown already quoted me that is just a friendly that's why Marc played ahead of Neuer. What an excuse .

I already said Germany should call his bluff by playing Marc and now let's see if that Bayern president get two heads not to send his players when they are called

hardeycute:
Thank Heaven you said "for me", for a man that reads match reports more than he watches the game, he can have Valdez between the sticks

Adiwana:


So winning La liga is now a highlight of a Barcelona coach?? Let's stop thinking the club is some Chelsea or Manchester United that should be satisfied winning a league match.The club is not what it is now for the past 10 years by winning the championship

The bench mark for any barca coach should be winning the treble not even the champions league.Real Madrid won the champions league 3 times in a row because the club is obsessed with being on top of the food chain.Our players cannot continue to be the best in world football and not get recognised just because the UCL is missing from our cabinet.

Haemophilia:


So valverde winning two ligas automatically means he has not flopped. We know we wouldn't have won those two ligas if not for leo's mastery of the league.

Valverde clearly lacks ideas to move barca forward. How can he possess this set of players and still struggles to play purposeful, attack-minded, fluid football?...HOW?

Have we really improved in terms of how we play football since the first season of enrique?


Make we dey call spade a spade ...all these sugar coating and window dressing no be am

Unlimited22:
Somebody legit put Valdes in his La Liga team of the decade.






LMAO

10Dove:
I swear! Someone that claimed to have watched footie over the years.

IKON360:

Benchmark for Barca coaches is winning treble? Since when? Na you write that one for club portfolio lmao. Only 2 coaches in the history of Barcelona have won the treble, Guardiola and Enrique, these fans sef will just be creating job profile for who they didn't employ nor who they are paying

IKON360:

Yup, you don't watch Barcelona matches.
And even the Enrique you want to praise left Barcelona with his tail between his legs, we won only Copa Del Rey in his last season, and Enrique had a better team than Valverde, in fact he had a more fearsome attack than even Guardiola, Rijkaard or even Cruyff, yet he won UCL only once... Enrique under achieved with what he had at his disposal. Look the match that Juventus beat us 3 - 0, after the miracle against PSG, we were basically clueless and 2nd leg ended in a draw. And how is winning La Liga twice now a sign that a coach has flopped? In which country did you hear that one? So as Guardiola is winning only Premier league and domestic trophies in England, he has flopped? As Klopp won two Bundesliga titles with Dortmund he had flopped? As Diego Simeon won just one league title with Athletic Madrid and reached UCL final twice he has flopped?

Adiwana:


I said it SHOULD be.We have done twice in the past 10 years.We have pretty much La liga and copa del rey wrapped up before the season even begins as Madrid have prioritised UCL over the league title and we play and win very well irrespective of how tight both competitions are.No need of speaking of the copa del rey.The "only" competition we really should be gunning for is the champions league.

We can't taste the treble success twice,know we can achieve it and still settle for less

Adiwana:


Winning la liga is like bragging we beat Madrid at Santiago Bernaleo.That's how the standards are right now.We will hate to lose there but you won't see us making noise that we beat Madrid at their own stadium.The same thing with La liga.Its something we would all love to have at the end of each season but its nothing to tag 'great' for a barca manager

IKON360:

Why shouldn't Valdes be considered one of the best goalkeepers in La Liga over the past 10 years? Only he and Casillas have won best goalkeeper in la Liga twice, nobody else even the weird award by Marca that Zamora award or so, no goalkeeper has won it as many times as Valdes... No goalkeeper beats that

IKON360:

Yup, you don't watch Barcelona matches.
And even the Enrique you want to praise left Barcelona with his tail between his legs, we won only Copa Del Rey in his last season, and Enrique had a better team than Valverde, in fact he had a more fearsome attack than even Guardiola, Rijkaard or even Cruyff, yet he won UCL only once... Enrique under achieved with what he had at his disposal. Look the match that Juventus beat us 3 - 0, after the miracle against PSG, we were basically clueless and 2nd leg ended in a draw. And how is winning La Liga twice now a sign that a coach has flopped? In which country did you hear that one? So as Guardiola is winning only Premier league and domestic trophies in England, he has flopped? As Klopp won two Bundesliga titles with Dortmund he had flopped? As Diego Simeon won just one league title with Athletic Madrid and reached UCL final twice he has flopped?

tesppidd:
Study shows Lionel Messi is statistically nearly three times better than any other footballer
givemesport.com Oct 10, 2019 10:39 AM

Lionel Messi’s case to be considered the greatest football player of all-time is exceptionally strong.

The Argentinian has scored 672 goals in his career and has 34 honours with Barcelona to his name.



Then you consider his individual accomplishments, and his resume becomes even more startling.

Five Ballon d’Ors. World Cup Golden Ball. Inclusion in the FIFA FIFPro World11 in every year since 2007.



Cristiano Ronaldo’s supporters will put their blinkers on but there can be no denying that Messi is, well, unbelievable.

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It’s hard to quantify just how much better Messi is than everyone else but ESPN may have come closest with their stats-based analysis into the best shooters in football.

Using TruMedia data for all domestic campaigns dating back to the start of the 2014/15 season, their findings show the disparity between Messi and his peers.

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Their study includes statistics including expected goals (xG) and expected goals on target (xGOT), which Opta describes as:

The Expected Goals on Target model is built on historical on-target shots and includes the original xG of the shot as well as the goalmouth location where the shot ended up. It gives more credit to shots that end up in the corners compared to shots that go straight down the middle of the goal. This model is for on-target shots, given that if you don't get your shot on target, there's a 0% chance that it will result in a goal.

xG and xGOT are compared to see which players have added the most value to their attempts.

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We’ll start with free-kicks. Barcelona No.10’s has scored 21 free-kicks since 2014 - no one else has more than 11.

His xGOT is even higher, at 21.71.

Messi has added 10.35 goals worth of value to his free-kicks. An image of Messi’s set-pieces since 2014, provided by ESPN, shows his preciseness.

Goals are green and misses are red.

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Moving to open play, Messi has scored 16 goals and added 6.04 worth of value on open play shots from outside the box, both of which see him rank first.

He’s also the best when all goals from open play are considered.

Only three players are in double digits when it comes to goals worth of value. They are Messi (19.34), Mohamed Salah (11.23) and Alexis Sanchez (10.02).

Messi (120) has score more goals from open play than anyone else and has produced 109.29 xGOT. No other player has broken 100.

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So Messi is the best at free-kicks and goalscoring. And he’s superior to anyone else at playmaking, too.

The 32-year-old has completed more than 300 through-balls since 2014 - next best is 173.

He leads the way in assists and is second in dribbles.

Overall, Messi has 177 goals since 2014 which is 19 more than Ronaldo.

He’s added 32.6 goals worth of value on 900 attempts. The gap between him and second-best Dani Parejo is a staggering 12.53.

“So just how good is Messi? Nearly three times better than everyone else,” ESPN write.

And Ronaldo? He’s attempted 1,005 shots since 2014, more than anyone else, but his wayward finishing subtracts him 3.07 goals.

ucsquare:


He dosent have this..

tesppidd:
Why is the article biting you na?

Abi na only Ronaldo name you see for the article?

ucsquare:


Nah bro, it ain't biting me..just that your ass licking is too much..

Just trying to help you tone it down..we all know who the GOAT is and its definitely not the midget..

tesppidd:
This thread is a Barca thread.

And why can't I post any nice and positive article I see about Messi on ESPN here without having to bother someone having to feel like they've got a broomstick sticking halfway out their asss?

ucsquare:


[s]SMH..midget fan claiming barca fan..

We'll know wats gonna happen to ignorant mofos like you in respect to your support for barca when the midget stops playing for barca..

So stop hiding behind the barca thread in ur asslicking endeavors.. [/s]

ucsquare:


[s]Nah bro, it ain't biting me..just that your ass licking is too much..

Just trying to help you tone it down..we all know who the GOAT is and its definitely not the midget.. [/s]

ucsquare:
Or this..

ucsquare:


He dosent have this..

ucsquare:


SMH..midget fan claiming barca fan..

We'll know wats gonna happen to ignorant mofos like you in respect to your support for barca when the midget stops playing for barca..

So stop hiding behind the barca thread in ur asslicking endeavors..

Adiwana:
De Ligt made a mistake moving to Juventus.Dude has been terrible so far and is so prone to mistake.Looks highly uncomfortable when he is under pressure.Cost Netherlands a goal tonight like has done all season at Juve.

Bonucci doesn't look like a defender that will teach him the ropes on how to have the calmness of a CB.This is what he could've learnt under a proper system at Barca and under a player like Pique.Under a fitting system,he will grow as he has the potential to be a Pique/VVD kind of player,but premature and poor development may ruin him as Juve doesn't even have a structure to develop young players.smh

Meanwhile De Jong is proving to be an iniesta kind of player.Totally bossed the midfield this evening and got an assist.Watching him is like watching iniesta.Dude plays with so much confidence and he turns exactly like our magical No 8.Only fouls tactically and is so composed.So much love that guy

Adiwana:
De Ligt made a mistake moving to Juventus.Dude has been terrible so far and is so prone to mistake.Looks highly uncomfortable when he is under pressure.Cost Netherlands a goal tonight like has done all season at Juve.

Bonucci doesn't look like a defender that will teach him the ropes on how to have the calmness of a CB.This is what he could've learnt under a proper system at Barca and under a player like Pique.Under a fitting system,he will grow as he has the potential to be a Pique/VVD kind of player,but premature and poor development may ruin him as Juve doesn't even have a structure to develop young players.smh

Meanwhile De Jong is proving to be an iniesta kind of player.Totally bossed the midfield this evening and got an assist.Watching him is like watching iniesta.Dude plays with so much confidence and he turns exactly like our magical No 8.Only fouls tactically and is so composed.So much love that guy

Adiwana:
De Ligt made a mistake moving to Juventus.Dude has been terrible so far and is so prone to mistake.Looks highly uncomfortable when he is under pressure.Cost Netherlands a goal tonight like has done all season at Juve.

Bonucci doesn't look like a defender that will teach him the ropes on how to have the calmness of a CB.This is what he could've learnt under a proper system at Barca and under a player like Pique.Under a fitting system,he will grow as he has the potential to be a Pique/VVD kind of player,but premature and poor development may ruin him as Juve doesn't even have a structure to develop young players.smh

Meanwhile De Jong is proving to be an iniesta kind of player.Totally bossed the midfield this evening and got an assist.Watching him is like watching iniesta.Dude plays with so much confidence and he turns exactly like our magical No 8.Only fouls tactically and is so composed.So much love that guy