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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 11:14pm On Oct 10, 2019 |
airmark: He will waste them Same way he wasted Tevez, pirlo, pogba, vidal, marchisio 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 11:26pm On Oct 10, 2019 |
popizaino:Stop this blasphemy 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chidexxy007(m): 11:31pm On Oct 10, 2019 |
All this roundabout arguments, una no dey tire? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 11:32pm On Oct 10, 2019 |
spillo1: Lol. Unrelated rubbish. Did they not lose 2-0 to Arsenal? Was that not the same Team Klopp was walloping 5-2 just one season prior? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 11:32pm On Oct 10, 2019 |
Adiwana:And yet they won La Liga on a canter. What tactical input would Villanova had done that would save them from defeat? The question is why did Pep lead essentially the same Bayern to disgrace in the subsequent season? Since we are discrediting coaches. Explain how an 11 vs 11 Bayern suffered it's worst loss in CL history a year after winning treble. Maybe we would have been better off without a head coach 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 11:35pm On Oct 10, 2019 |
sleekdot: When they like, Barca had no coach. When they don't like, Bayern thrashed Barca. As if anybody said Bayern was not good. As if it is not the same RM team Mou could not win with that later got 4 UCL |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chidexxy007(m): 11:35pm On Oct 10, 2019 |
Adiwana:But but Barca won the league with record points with same Tito na except you want to tell us they competed with farmers that year in spain |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 11:38pm On Oct 10, 2019 |
Adiwana: LOL. Don't mind them. The same guy said that Barca team was superstructured such that they did not need a coach. Now he has ignored the coach to chat rubbish. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 11:42pm On Oct 10, 2019 |
A40: It is the same way CFC lost 4-0 to Ole's united Same way Tottenham lost 2-7 to Kovac. The scoreline did not tell the real story. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 11:43pm On Oct 10, 2019 |
chidexxy007: You know Tito got sick by the SFs and his assistant was coaching right? The league was won already by then. So the team was just playing for the record in the league. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 11:56pm On Oct 10, 2019 |
popizaino: Conte met a 32yr old pirlo, and made best use of him. Fraudiola would have given him the "Yaya Toure" treatment. Tevez and Vidal would have beaten the fraud out of Fraudiola in training sessions. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 11:57pm On Oct 10, 2019 |
Eruditor:Are you saying Tottenham didn't deserve to lose by that margin? What did they play after the first 25mins? Even their penalty was a fraudulent one. They should have lost 7-1 As for the Bayern vs Madrid debacle you would struggle to list 2 clear goalscoring chances Bayern created over both legs. We didn't deserve anything from that tie. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 12:00am On Oct 11, 2019 |
A40 post=83027542[code: There was no motivation simple |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 12:03am On Oct 11, 2019 |
popizaino:Pep a new manager was supposed to provide the motivation. This would have been a tenable excuse if Jupp were still coach |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Adiwana: 12:05am On Oct 11, 2019 |
A40: So you want to compare winning La liga that streches over a span of 38 games to a champions league knockout game of 2 legs?? Playing a high flying Bayern side without a headcoach and a very inexperienced assistant manger that was yet to spend 1 season in top flight football was a time bomb that was always going to explode.Not even going to give the excuse of the fact that Barca were playing with an unfit Messi.This was during the period the manager was diagnosed with cancer and psychologically the team were defeated before the ball was kicked.Bayern were clear favorites going into that tie despite the fact that Barca were the team to beat at during that period. You can't possibly be asking what a coach would've done vs what his assistant would've done in the same scenario.He is the head coach for a reason.Experience has always mattered in the competition.Even if Barca were to lose,the damage would've been minimal.It could've been a close tie,it could've been a case of winning at alianz arena and losing/drawing at Camp Nou Pochettino a very experienced head coach was handed 7 goals at home.Imagine what that game would've been with his assistant at the dug out of that match And on your question,how did he lead them to disgrace??the league was pretty much a 1 horse race.Got them playing almost the same football.Brought Lahm back playing football as an u19 wonder kid.Players flourished under him.Led them to 2 Champions league semi finals.Could fault him for not beating Athletico Madrid but can't absolve the team for ball watching Saul dance through the midfiled to score and Alaba forgetting that he was a defender inside his own penalty area.Also theres no shame in losing to MSN.Bayern dominated the first leg but Lewandoski forgot how to score Lack of winning the champions league was his only fault at Bayern 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Adiwana: 12:09am On Oct 11, 2019 |
Eruditor: Tottenham were abysmal in that game.They were a little decent in the first half and totally fell apart in the 2nd half.Bayern should've at least had an extra goal because they were denied a clear penalty.The scoreline really spoke about that match |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Adiwana: 12:19am On Oct 11, 2019 |
A40: I have told that guy to log off.He's having too much internet.How was Barca the favorite when Puyol was playing as RB,Sylvinho as LB,yaya as CB,Busquet that I dont know if I ever watched him play was a DM against Man utd that were defending champions and a Ronaldo that scored a 30-35 yard screamer against Arsenal. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 12:23am On Oct 11, 2019 |
Adiwana:There is no evidence that suggests Tito (rest his soul) would have done anything spectacular if he was healthy or not. Bayern were not clear favorites going into the tie. It was very much 50-50. No Bayern fan dare predicted it would end in a rout Adiwana: This is still under probability. There is no telling what could have happened whether he coached or not So are you saying Tottenham could have lost 10-1 if the assistant was on the touch line or what? The presence of the head coach guarantees nothing!! Adiwana:The players flourished but each time Bayern went away from home in a CL tie we always got beaten. Ask yourself from Bayern to City what is it about Pep's tactics that he cannot buy an away goal and neither can he keep a home clean sheet vs any decent side in elimination situations. Why is it that you can almost bet that a Pep side will always fail to score away from home?? And lack defensive solidity to keep a clean sheet in his building Everytime. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 12:27am On Oct 11, 2019 |
Adiwana:Lol I can still remember how snotty a lot of my Man U fan friends were both male and female and how they were bragging leading up to that Final especially after the Ovrebo incident. Plus they were unbeaten in Europe since the 07/08 season How can someone now come here and say Barca were favorites going into that Final. That one is burnt dodo 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FBS: 12:33am On Oct 11, 2019 |
SkimpleD:Fake pastors at work Anointing is eternal if you stick to the game plan. Supernatural pass natural. It's all in the Super. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 12:42am On Oct 11, 2019 |
A40: The point was it was not Kovac's coaching or Bayern's far superiority. You can catch any good team on a good day. Whether Bayern deserved to KO RM is not the point as well. The scoreline was not reflective of the tie at all. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 12:45am On Oct 11, 2019 |
Adiwana: Tottenham have been in free fall. Brighton best them convincingly and deserved to even score more. That is my point. Barca vs PSG 6-1 is another example. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:49am On Oct 11, 2019 |
A40: Say it as it is, Fraudiola doesnt know how to coach his defenders, the art of defending. He relied on his team attack, dominating opponents to submission. But no Messi, he only has funds to pile up expensive players, they cant be Messi. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SkimpleD: 3:38am On Oct 11, 2019 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SkimpleD: 3:55am On Oct 11, 2019 |
SkimpleD:It is shocking how my Gee popizaino has dodged this question since yesterday. For all the Pep boast and talks, so he can’t win this seasons’ UCL? My goodness. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 5:37am On Oct 11, 2019 |
Eruditor:same way the arsenal 2 0 win scoreline against Bayern does not tell the whole story. I remember that the normal bayern first 11 did not play that match. I remember ribery didn't play. It was like a dead rubber match after the 3 1 at emirates |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 5:45am On Oct 11, 2019 |
Greatihex: How can 2-0 loss be dead rubber when if AFC score another goal, Bayern are out? What rubbish lie am I reading like this about first 11? Bayern were the better team no doubt but losing to Arsenal that way shows they were not that "best team in Europe" like the other guy was claiming. That is fa fa fa foul. They were not fantastic in the group stages. Even Dortmund, in a far more difficult group, did better. They were solid, and deserved to win the UCL especially as the season progressed. But you see that narrative about them being the best team in Europe? That is a lie. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 5:50am On Oct 11, 2019 |
Eruditor:ribery didn't start the match, yes or no? If they weren't the best team then, who was? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 5:51am On Oct 11, 2019 |
Eruditor:You are typing garbage. Nobody who watched Bayern through out the entire campaign will say they were not the best team in Europe unless blinded by bias like you are. Which team was better than Bayern when guardiola inherited them and proceeded to wreck them. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 5:54am On Oct 11, 2019 |
Greatihex: Why are you asking for only Ribery? My friend stop with the diversionary tactics. RM and Barcelona arguably had better squads. Especially RM. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 5:57am On Oct 11, 2019 |
spillo1: See, I will wash you with facts. I just don't think you are worth it. Stop yarning opaks. The eventual achievements of a team is not necessarily a testament to how good they were prior to it. Even SAF said his 2007/08 United was better than the treble winning team yet it was the 1999 team that won the treble. Bayern were one of the best..YES. Were they the best team? BIG FAT LIE. Compare RM and Barcelona squads to that Bayern and advise yourself. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by spillo1: 6:05am On Oct 11, 2019 |
Eruditor:Now I know you are drunk. The same Barcelona that got demolished and battered home and away. Guardiola inherited the best team in Europe no white washing will change that. |
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