airmark:




Give him prime Xavi, Iniesta and Messi.

He will waste them

Same way he wasted Tevez, pirlo, pogba, vidal, marchisio

popizaino:



Yimu


Pep guardiola bayern Munich squad of 2015/2016 was more dreadful than the squad under jupp heyckens ask raumdeuter.

Jupp heyckens should thank his lucky star that the Barcelona side he faced was more or less without a coach.

Stop this blasphemy

All this roundabout arguments, una no dey tire?

spillo1:

Why are you blinded by bias. Bayern were undoubtedly the best team in Europe. They demolished and raped Barca. I was even more impressed on how they nullified Juventus home and away.


I called them “German Machines“. That season was played with absolute desire amd hunger. They wanted to win it all and had all neccesary tools to do so. What you are saying about that team is fallacy.


They were excellent and efficient in every aspect of their game. Could play any kind of game whether it was possession-based, counter-attacking, low block, high press, narrow or wide.

They turned the allianz arena into a slaughter house both locally and continentally that season.
If ever there was one example of when anger drove a team, that bayern would be it.

Pep ruined that generation.

Lol. Unrelated rubbish.

Did they not lose 2-0 to Arsenal?
Was that not the same Team Klopp was walloping 5-2 just one season prior?

Adiwana:


No glorification in beating a team with no head coach that were psychologically won before the game even started.The Barca team then was a mess and Bayern took full advantage of that.

And yet they won La Liga on a canter. What tactical input would Villanova had done that would save them from defeat?

The question is why did Pep lead essentially the same Bayern to disgrace in the subsequent season? Since we are discrediting coaches.

Explain how an 11 vs 11 Bayern suffered it's worst loss in CL history a year after winning treble. Maybe we would have been better off without a head coach

sleekdot:


You mean the same team that Arsenal beat in Munich is the machine?

When they like, Barca had no coach. When they don't like, Bayern thrashed Barca.

As if anybody said Bayern was not good.

As if it is not the same RM team Mou could not win with that later got 4 UCL

Adiwana:


Thank you.People want to talk trash that Barca lost 7 - 0 but also forgot that the Tito Vilanova was at the hospital at the time of that match and that game was spearheaded by the assistant coach.

But but Barca won the league with record points with same Tito na except you want to tell us they competed with farmers that year in spain

Adiwana:


Thank you.People want to talk trash that Barca lost 7 - 0 but also forgot that the Tito Vilanova was at the hospital at the time of that match and that game was spearheaded by the assistant coach.

LOL.

Don't mind them.

The same guy said that Barca team was superstructured such that they did not need a coach.

Now he has ignored the coach to chat rubbish.

A40:
And yet they won La Liga on a canter. What tactical input would Villanova had done that would save them from defeat?

The question is why did Pep lead essentially the same Bayern to disgrace in the subsequent season? Since we are discrediting coaches.

Explain how an 11 vs 11 Bayern suffered it's worst loss in CL history a year after winning treble. Maybe we would have been better off without a head coach

It is the same way CFC lost 4-0 to Ole's united

Same way Tottenham lost 2-7 to Kovac.

The scoreline did not tell the real story.

chidexxy007:

But but Barca won the league with record points with same Tito na except you want to tell us they competed with farmers that year in spain

You know Tito got sick by the SFs and his assistant was coaching right?

The league was won already by then. So the team was just playing for the record in the league.

popizaino:



He will waste them

Same way he wasted Tevez, pirlo, pogba, vidal, marchisio

Conte met a 32yr old pirlo, and made best use of him. Fraudiola would have given him the "Yaya Toure" treatment.

Tevez and Vidal would have beaten the fraud out of Fraudiola in training sessions.

Eruditor:


It is the same way CFC lost 4-0 to Ole's united

Same way Tottenham lost 2-7 to Kovac.

The scoreline did not tell the real story.

Are you saying Tottenham didn't deserve to lose by that margin? What did they play after the first 25mins? Even their penalty was a fraudulent one. They should have lost 7-1

As for the Bayern vs Madrid debacle you would struggle to list 2 clear goalscoring chances Bayern created over both legs. We didn't deserve anything from that tie.

A40 post=83027542[code:
]And yet they won La Liga on a canter. What tactical input would Villanova had done that would save them from defeat?[/code]

The same tactical input known to Pep guardiola alone that he has used in saving them previously which you all thought it was down to Messi, Xavi and Iniesta.

The question is why did Pep lead essentially the same Bayern to disgrace in the subsequent season? Since we are discrediting coaches.

Because his bayern Munich side won't be lucky again to play a managerless Barcelona or play against a real Madrid side lead by clueless mourinho who will need a red card to knock out man united.

Explain how an 11 vs 11 Bayern suffered it's worst loss in CL history a year after winning treble. Maybe we would have been better off without a head coach

There was no motivation simple

popizaino:


There was no motivation simple

Pep a new manager was supposed to provide the motivation. This would have been a tenable excuse if Jupp were still coach

A40:
And yet they won La Liga on a canter. What tactical input would Villanova had done that would save them from defeat?

The question is why did Pep lead essentially the same Bayern to disgrace in the subsequent season? Since we are discrediting coaches.

Explain how an 11 vs 11 Bayern suffered it's worst loss in CL history a year after winning treble. Maybe we would have been better off without a head coach

So you want to compare winning La liga that streches over a span of 38 games to a champions league knockout game of 2 legs?? Playing a high flying Bayern side without a headcoach and a very inexperienced assistant manger that was yet to spend 1 season in top flight football was a time bomb that was always going to explode.Not even going to give the excuse of the fact that Barca were playing with an unfit Messi.This was during the period the manager was diagnosed with cancer and psychologically the team were defeated before the ball was kicked.Bayern were clear favorites going into that tie despite the fact that Barca were the team to beat at during that period.

You can't possibly be asking what a coach would've done vs what his assistant would've done in the same scenario.He is the head coach for a reason.Experience has always mattered in the competition.Even if Barca were to lose,the damage would've been minimal.It could've been a close tie,it could've been a case of winning at alianz arena and losing/drawing at Camp Nou

Pochettino a very experienced head coach was handed 7 goals at home.Imagine what that game would've been with his assistant at the dug out of that match

And on your question,how did he lead them to disgrace??the league was pretty much a 1 horse race.Got them playing almost the same football.Brought Lahm back playing football as an u19 wonder kid.Players flourished under him.Led them to 2 Champions league semi finals.Could fault him for not beating Athletico Madrid but can't absolve the team for ball watching Saul dance through the midfiled to score and Alaba forgetting that he was a defender inside his own penalty area.Also theres no shame in losing to MSN.Bayern dominated the first leg but Lewandoski forgot how to score

Lack of winning the champions league was his only fault at Bayern

Eruditor:


It is the same way CFC lost 4-0 to Ole's united

Same way Tottenham lost 2-7 to Kovac.

The scoreline did not tell the real story.

Tottenham were abysmal in that game.They were a little decent in the first half and totally fell apart in the 2nd half.Bayern should've at least had an extra goal because they were denied a clear penalty.The scoreline really spoke about that match

A40:
I no too crazy about Pep but iro o da. Barca were not favorites going to that Final at all.

You were not here in the days of the 'holy trinity' Rooney-Ronaldo-Tevez

I have told that guy to log off.He's having too much internet.How was Barca the favorite when Puyol was playing as RB,Sylvinho as LB,yaya as CB,Busquet that I dont know if I ever watched him play was a DM against Man utd that were defending champions and a Ronaldo that scored a 30-35 yard screamer against Arsenal.

Adiwana:

So you want to compare winning La liga that streches over a span of 38 games to a champions league knockout game of 2 legs?? Playing a high flying Bayern side without a headcoach and a very inexperienced assistant manger that was yet to spend 1 season in top flight football was a time bomb that was always going to explode.Not even going to give the excuse of the fact that Barca were playing with an unfit Messi.This was during the period the manager was diagnosed with cancer and psychologically the team were defeated before the ball was kicked.Bayern were clear favorites going into that tie despite the fact that Barca were the team to beat at during that period.

There is no evidence that suggests Tito (rest his soul) would have done anything spectacular if he was healthy or not.

Bayern were not clear favorites going into the tie. It was very much 50-50. No Bayern fan dare predicted it would end in a rout

Adiwana:

You can't possibly be asking what a coach would've done vs what his assistant would've done in the same scenario.He is the head coach for a reason.Experience has always mattered in the competition.Even if Barca were to lose,the damage would've been minimal.It could've been a close tie,it could've been a case of winning at alianz arena and losing/drawing at Camp Nou

Pochettino a very experienced head coach was handed 7 goals at home.Imagine what that game would've been with his assistant at the dug out of that match

This is still under probability. There is no telling what could have happened whether he coached or not

So are you saying Tottenham could have lost 10-1 if the assistant was on the touch line or what? The presence of the head coach guarantees nothing!!

Adiwana:

And on your question,how did he lead them to disgrace??the league was pretty much a 1 horse race.Got them playing almost the same football.Brought Lahm back playing football as an u19 wonder kid.Players flourished under him.Led them to 2 Champions league semi finals.Could fault him for not beating Athletico Madrid but can't absolve the team for ball watching Saul dance through the midfiled to score and Alaba forgetting that he was a defender inside his own penalty area.Also theres no shame in losing to MSN.Bayern dominated the first leg but Lewandoski forgot how to score

Lack of winning the champions league was his only fault at Bayern

The players flourished but each time Bayern went away from home in a CL tie we always got beaten. Ask yourself from Bayern to City what is it about Pep's tactics that he cannot buy an away goal and neither can he keep a home clean sheet vs any decent side in elimination situations.

Why is it that you can almost bet that a Pep side will always fail to score away from home?? And lack defensive solidity to keep a clean sheet in his building Everytime.

Adiwana:


I have told that guy to log off.He's having too much internet.How was Barca the favorite when Puyol was playing as RB,Sylvinho as LB,yaya as CB,Busquet that I dont know if I ever watched him play was a DM against Man utd that were defending champions and a Ronaldo that scored a 30-35 yard screamer against Arsenal.

Lol I can still remember how snotty a lot of my Man U fan friends were both male and female and how they were bragging leading up to that Final especially after the Ovrebo incident. Plus they were unbeaten in Europe since the 07/08 season

How can someone now come here and say Barca were favorites going into that Final. That one is burnt dodo

SkimpleD:

I heard baptism works for only one year and after it, the effects wear off. Abeg let’s enjoy Willian for the time being.

Pedro and Barkley aren’t in my Chelsea team abeg.

Fake pastors at work
Anointing is eternal if you stick to the game plan. Supernatural pass natural. It's all in the Super.

A40:
Are you saying Tottenham didn't deserve to lose by that margin? What did they play after the first 25mins? Even their penalty was a fraudulent one. They should have lost 7-1

As for the Bayern vs Madrid debacle you would struggle to list 2 clear goalscoring chances Bayern created over both legs. We didn't deserve anything from that tie.

The point was it was not Kovac's coaching or Bayern's far superiority. You can catch any good team on a good day.

Whether Bayern deserved to KO RM is not the point as well. The scoreline was not reflective of the tie at all.

Adiwana:


Tottenham were abysmal in that game.They were a little decent in the first half and totally fell apart in the 2nd half.Bayern should've at least had an extra goal because they were denied a clear penalty.The scoreline really spoke about that match

Tottenham have been in free fall. Brighton best them convincingly and deserved to even score more. That is my point. Barca vs PSG 6-1 is another example.

A40:

There is no evidence that suggests Tito (rest his soul) would have done anything spectacular if he was healthy or not.

Bayern were not clear favorites going into the tie. It was very much 50-50. No Bayern fan dare predicted it would end in a rout



This is still under probability. There is no telling what could have happened whether he coached or not

So are you saying Tottenham could have lost 10-1 if the assistant was on the touch line or what? The presence of the head coach guarantees nothing!!


The players flourished but each time Bayern went away from home in a CL tie we always got beaten. Ask yourself from Bayern to City what is it about Pep's tactics that he cannot buy an away goal and neither can he keep a home clean sheet vs any decent side in elimination situations.

Why is it that you can almost bet that a Pep side will always fail to score away from home?? And lack defensive solidity to keep a clean sheet in his building Everytime.

Say it as it is, Fraudiola doesnt know how to coach his defenders, the art of defending. He relied on his team attack, dominating opponents to submission. But no Messi, he only has funds to pile up expensive players, they cant be Messi.

FBS:

Fake pastors at work
Anointing is eternal if you stick to the game plan. Supernatural pass natural. It's all in the Super.

SkimpleD:



My guy.

We fight wrestle not against flesh and blood my brother...

So, will Pep win UCL this season?

It is shocking how my Gee popizaino has dodged this question since yesterday. For all the Pep boast and talks, so he can’t win this seasons’ UCL?

My goodness.

Eruditor:


It is the same way CFC lost 4-0 to Ole's united

Same way Tottenham lost 2-7 to Kovac.

The scoreline did not tell the real story.

same way the arsenal 2 0 win scoreline against Bayern does not tell the whole story.

I remember that the normal bayern first 11 did not play that match. I remember ribery didn't play. It was like a dead rubber match after the 3 1 at emirates

Greatihex:
same way the arsenal 2 0 win scoreline against Bayern does not tell the whole story.

I remember that the normal bayern first 11 did not play that match. I remember ribery didn't play. It was like a dead rubber match after the 3 1 at emirates

How can 2-0 loss be dead rubber when if AFC score another goal, Bayern are out?

What rubbish lie am I reading like this about first 11?

Bayern were the better team no doubt but losing to Arsenal that way shows they were not that "best team in Europe" like the other guy was claiming. That is fa fa fa foul.

They were not fantastic in the group stages. Even Dortmund, in a far more difficult group, did better.

They were solid, and deserved to win the UCL especially as the season progressed. But you see that narrative about them being the best team in Europe? That is a lie.

Eruditor:


How can 2-0 loss be dead rubber when if AFC score another goal, Bayern are out?

What rubbish lie am I reading like this about first 11?

Bayern were the better team no doubt but losing to Arsenal that way shows they were not that "best team in Europe" like the other guy was claiming. That is fa fa fa foul.

They were not fantastic in the group stages. Even Dortmund, in a far more difficult group, did better.

They were solid, and deserved to win the UCL especially as the season progressed. But you see that narrative about them being the best team in Europe? That is a lie.

ribery didn't start the match, yes or no?




If they weren't the best team then, who was?

Eruditor:


How can 2-0 loss be dead rubber when if AFC score another goal, Bayern are out?

What rubbish lie am I reading like this about first 11?

Bayern were the better team no doubt but losing to Arsenal that way shows they were not that "best team in Europe" like the other guy was claiming. That is fa fa fa foul.

They were not fantastic in the group stages. Even Dortmund, in a far more difficult group, did better.

They were solid, and deserved to win the UCL especially as the season progressed. But you see that narrative about them being the best team in Europe? That is a lie.

You are typing garbage. Nobody who watched Bayern through out the entire campaign will say they were not the best team in Europe unless blinded by bias like you are. Which team was better than Bayern when guardiola inherited them and proceeded to wreck them.

Greatihex:
ribery didn't start the match, yes or no?






If they weren't the best team then, who was?

Why are you asking for only Ribery? My friend stop with the diversionary tactics.

RM and Barcelona arguably had better squads. Especially RM.

spillo1:

You are typing garbage. Nobody who watched Bayern through out the entire campaign will say they were not the best team in Europe unless blinded by bias like you are. Which team was better than Bayern when guardiola inherited them and proceeded to wreck them.

See, I will wash you with facts. I just don't think you are worth it. Stop yarning opaks.

The eventual achievements of a team is not necessarily a testament to how good they were prior to it. Even SAF said his 2007/08 United was better than the treble winning team yet it was the 1999 team that won the treble.

Bayern were one of the best..YES. Were they the best team? BIG FAT LIE.

Compare RM and Barcelona squads to that Bayern and advise yourself.

Eruditor:


See, I will wash you with facts. I just don't think you are worth it. Stop yarning opaks.

The eventual achievements of a team is not necessarily a testament to how good they were prior to it. Even SAF said his 2007/08 United was better than the treble winning team yet it was the 1999 team that won the treble.

Bayern were one of the best..YES. Were they the best team? BIG FAT LIE.

Compare RM and Barcelona squads to that Bayern and advise yourself.

Now I know you are drunk. The same Barcelona that got demolished and battered home and away. Guardiola inherited the best team in Europe no white washing will change that.