kendrick93:
Why are you dodging my question though?
Prove to me how the man U frontline was better than the Barca frontline in 08/09 season...
On your other points,anyone who followed that season heading into the final will all agree barca were by far huge favourites going into the final.... i don't care about the beginning of the season,they played qualifiers so what.....that was because of the management the previous season.....
Even the previous year 08 man U knocked out barca,it was a slim victory,paul scholes wonder Strike the difference between both sides....barca dominated both legs even with a half fit Messi,man u had to defend for their lives...
The 2008/09 man U team was no way a better side than that barca side hell the previous season they were barely better..even a non motivated rijkarrd team dominated both legs.....
I'm not a kid who relies on Wikipedia

Anyone who watched Barca going into the final?

Lol

Because Pep was now coaching them.

You are just repeating everything I have said.

Who are you? Kendrick Daftmar?

Eruditor:


Can you just shut up?

How can someone's level of performance drop and his output improves significantly?

How will you know when you only check LiveScore.com on match day. M u m u.

spillo1:

Can't you read or what. It was clearly stated Pep woo full away record you are here mis yarning.

That is why I said spillo1 is a misnomer.

I said when you are here to talk about away record do not forget what the return leg was.

As if Klopp does not have a losing away record too.

hensben:
How will you know when you only check LiveScore.com on match day. M u m u.

You were the one insulting a doctor about his intelligence.

If you think I am offended by you you have a long thing coming.

SI Unit for gross unintelligence and olodoism.

Sod the eff off.

hensben:
Goals and assist don’t tell it all. His level of performance dropped under pep.

What is evidence of his level of performance that dropped, Call you citadel people to help you out with your foolishness for today

spillo1:

You just typed rubbish.

Good, you have now accepted that your reasoning is rubbish.

I just did what you did. I used the achievement of those teams to decide they were the best teams. See how that works out?

Don't forget, that best team got beat by Chelsea that were 5th in the league and had lost 3-1 to Lazio.

That best team lost all matches against Klopp the previous season.

That best team lost 5-2 to Klopp in a final.

spillo1:

Can't you read or what. It was clearly stated Pep woo full away record you are here mis yarning.

What is the point of away record if your have a home record good enough to blow the away record

Its like saying a boxer has a weak left hand when his right hand wins his bouts for him

Eruditor:


That is why I said spillo1 is a misnomer.

I said when you are here to talk about away record do not forget what the return leg was.

As if Klopp does not have a losing away record too.

For feck sake. This was the part of A40 post I was referring to.

"Why is it that you can almost bet that a Pep side will always fail to score away from home?? And lack defensive solidity to keep a clean sheet in his building Everytime."

Pep away record is trash. If you can't defend that then leave it be. Nobody is talking about home record did you see me list jupp home record.

sleekdot:


What is the point of away record if your have a home record good enough to blow the away record

Its like saying a boxer has a weak left hand when his right hand wins his bouts for him

We saw how his home record enabled him blow away teams at Bayern and led them to win the Champions league constantly.

spillo1:

We saw how his home record enabled him blow away teams at Bayern and led them to win the Champions league constantly.

Since he left, how many times has Bayern made the final or

Eruditor:


Good, you have now accepted that your reasoning is rubbish.

I just did what you did. I used the achievement of those teams to decide they were the best teams. See how that works out?

Don't forget, that best team got beat by Chelsea that were 5th in the league and had lost 3-1 to Lazio.

That best team lost all matches against Klopp the previous season.

That best team lost 5-2 to Klopp in a final.

You did nothing. Did Mourinho inherit the best team in Europe at both inter and Porto or what rubbish were you typing. Before pep Bayern former 2 coaches carried them to 3 champions league finals in 4yrs. Pep came and was getting disgraced up and down.

sleekdot:


Since he left, how many times has Bayern made the final or

Thank God you asked. Prove 1.1 like I told you before that pep ruined that generation. Before he came 3 finals in 4 years. After he came how many finals did they make?

spillo1:

Thank God you asked. Prove 1.1 like I told you before that pep ruined that generation. Before he came 3 finals in 4 years. After he came how many finals did they make?

Ferguson won the treble in 1999, who ruined that Man Utd that made them not to make another CL final for almost a decade

sleekdot:


Ferguson won the treble in 1999, who ruined that Man Utd that made them not to make another CL final for almost a decade

You have jumped from Lagos to London and I am not coming with you. The Koko is before pep Bayern made 3 finals in 4 years under 2 different coaches. Can you tell us how many final they made with pep and after Pep ?

spillo1:

For feck sake. This was the part of A40 post I was referring to.

"Why is it that you can almost bet that a Pep side will always fail to score away from home?? And lack defensive solidity to keep a clean sheet in his building Everytime."

Pep away record is trash. If you can't defend that then leave it be. Nobody is talking about home record did you see me list jupp home record.

It is literally the stupidest argument to make except you are explaining someone who has never won.

That is why I said..when you talk about away record juxtapose it with home record. Why is thinking so hard for you?

Do you know Man City lost 2-1 to Basel after winning away 4-0?

Or that Barca under Pep drew 1-1 with Madrid after winning away 2-0?

Nobody cares about home or away. They just want you to qualify.

Pep's bayern best Barca 3-2. He beat ATM 2-1.

But he did not qualify so nobody cares.

He beat Tottenham 4-3. Beat Monaco 5-3. But he did not qualify. So nobody cares.

spillo1:

You did nothing. Did Mourinho inherit the best team in Europe at both inter and Porto or what rubbish were you typing. Before pep Bayern former 2 coaches carried them to 3 champions league finals in 4yrs. Pep came and was getting disgraced up and down.

Yes Mou did. Because they won the UCL after he inherited them.

Pep was getting disgraced? Lol. After Pep other Bayern coaches still lost to RM abi?

spillo1:

You have jumped from Lagos to London and I am not coming with you. The Koko is before pep Bayern made 3 finals in 4 years under 2 different coaches. Can you tell us how many final they made with pep and after Pep ?

So Pep is responsible for the results of Juup Ancelotti and Kovac after him? I dont see you crediting Mancini for the success of Mourinho at Inter

Eruditor:


It is literally the stupidest argument to make except you are explaining someone who has never won.

That is why I said..when you talk about away record juxtapose it with home record. Why is thinking so hard for you?

Do you know Man City lost 2-1 to Basel after winning away 4-0?

Or that Barca under Pep drew 1-1 with Madrid after winning away 2-0?

Nobody cares about home or away. They just want you to qualify.

Pep's bayern best Barca 3-2. He beat ATM 2-1.

But he did not qualify so nobody cares.

He beat Tottenham 4-3. Beat Monaco 5-3. But he did not qualify. So nobody cares.

If you want to talk about home record you are welcome to do so with A40. All I care about is Pep disgraceful Away record in the champions league knock out stages.

spillo1:

You have jumped from Lagos to London and I am not coming with you. The Koko is before pep Bayern made 3 finals in 4 years under 2 different coaches. Can you tell us how many final they made with pep and after Pep ?

Yes. So let us use your argument style.

LVG got to a final. Then next season he was finishing 3rd (you claimed any Bayern coach will win league..so rubbish).

After Pep, Ancelotti that disgraced Pep faced his own RM side now as he was coaching Bayern. How did it end? In tears.

Jupp faced RM that disgraced Pep. How did it end? The same way as Pep.

Your argument is therefore dead on arrival. Why?

Because, winning the league with Bayern is not a given - a UCL finalist did not do it.

Winning RM is not a given - Jupp who did it before failed.

So hate Pep all you want..but to claim Bayern should have won 2-3 UCLs is rubbish.

spillo1:

If you want to talk about home record you are welcome to do so with A40. All I care about is Pep disgraceful Away record in the champions league knock out stages.

All you care about is that Pep lost 4 league games last season. Klopp only lost one.

All you don't care about is Pep won the league and Klopp did not.

Stupido1

Eruditor:


Yes Mou did. Because they won the UCL after he inherited them.

Pep was getting disgraced? Lol. After Pep other Bayern coaches still lost to RM abi?

Before Mourinho when did inter and Porto get to the Champions league semi final talk less of even the final?


Simple explanation Pep ruined Bayern.

sleekdot:


So Pep is responsible for the results of Juup Ancelotti and Kovac after him? I dont see you crediting Mancini for the success of Mourinho at Inter

Got em'

spillo1:


Before Mourinho when did inter and Porto get to the Champions league semi final talk less of even the final?


Simple explanation Pep ruined Bayern.

Before Pep which other coach in the world won 6 trophies in one season?

Eruditor:


[s] Yes. So let us use your argument style.

LVG got to a final. Then next season he was finishing 3rd (you claimed any Bayern coach will win league..so rubbish).

After Pep, Ancelotti that disgraced Pep faced his own RM side now as he was coaching Bayern. How did it end? In tears.

Jupp faced RM that disgraced Pep. How did it end? The same way as Pep.

Your argument is therefore dead on arrival. Why?

Because, winning the league with Bayern is not a given - a UCL finalist did not do it.

Winning RM is not a given - Jupp who did it before failed.

So hate Pep all you want..but to claim Bayern should have won 2-3 UCLs is rubbish [/s].

Another eye sore

Before Pep 2 coaches took Bayern to 3 finals in 4 years. Regular customers in champions league finals. During pep and after Pep how many champions league final did they make? Pep ruined Bayern with his rubbish style of play
Be shameful for once and accept pep was a failure at Bayern.

Eruditor:


All you care about is that Pep lost 4 league games last season. Klopp only lost one.

All you don't care about is Pep won the league and Klopp did not.

Stupido1

Are we still talking about pep failures at Bayern or were are you jumping to?

sleekdot:


So Pep is responsible for the results of Juup Ancelotti and Kovac after him? I dont see you crediting Mancini for the success of Mourinho at Inter

I forgot Mancini took inter to the Champions league final and also won the treble before Mourinho.

Pep is responsible for damaging Bayern and his rubbish is still felt.

spillo1:

Another eye sore

Before Pep 2 coaches took Bayern to 3 finals in 4 years. Regular customers in champions league finals. During pep and after Pep how many champions league final did they make? Pep ruined Bayern with his rubbish style of play
Be shameful for once and accept pep was a failure at Bayern.

I am not arguing that he did not get to a final.

Same way Mou did not get to a final and 2 coaches WON (not just got to a final) 4 UCL titles after him.

But Pep's rubbish style of play is what gave Bayern 7 titles when he was there.

His rubbish style has won 7 titles for City as well.

Mou's own got him sacked.

Eruditor:


Before Pep which other coach in the world won 6 trophies in one season?

You are just like dayo. You both like bringing irrelevant things when you can't counter a point. We are talking about pep failures at Bayern you are bringing up six trophies . Did he win those at Bayern?

spillo1:

Are we still talking about pep failures at Bayern or were are you jumping to?

I am showing you the mumu style of arguing where you harp on someones "failure" without comparing it to his success.

"He had a losing away record". Lol

But his winning home record is better than everybody else's abi?

spillo1:

You are just like dayo. You both like bringing irrelevant things when you can't counter a point. We are talking about pep failures at Bayern you are bringing up six trophies . Did he win those at Bayern?

You are not talking about his time in Bayern you were talking about Mou in Inter and Porto.

I have to play the same false equivalence with you.

No he did not win those at Bayern. He only won 7 other titles at Bayern which no other Bayern coach had done in 3 years before.

Eruditor:


I am not arguing that he did not get to a final.

Same way Mou did not get to a final and 2 coaches WON (not just got to a final) 4 UCL titles after him.

But Pep's rubbish style of play is what gave Bayern 7 titles when he was there.

His rubbish style has won 7 titles for City as well.

Mou's own got him sacked.

And now we are back to the basics. Thank God you finally agreed pep failed at Bayern when it comes to the Champions league. Mourinho meet a team that haven't gotten the quarter final in 6 successive seasons at Madrid while pep meet a Bayern than went to three finals in 4yrs and just won a treble. Only a daft mind will even smsay those 2 circumstances are equal. If pep is a success to you at Bayern then so is Mourinho at Madrid.

Cc Eruditor


You should know when to drop an argument.

Someone claims Barcelona were the favourite team and the best team coming into 2008/2009 and you still haven't given up then I must commend you for your patience.


Someone claim tree trio of eto, Messi and Henry were more deadly in attack than c.ronaldo, Rooney Tevez and you can't call it a day?.

Drop this shit

They already shot themselves.